Re: [hackers] Abandoning current theme project
>>Just a quick note and two questions on themes: >>2) Are you (any of you) open to "requests" for themes? Yeah, there's already been a request by someone on this list to alter adc (I think it's called - which I've yet to even look at). I've been dealing with my own theme wish list here. I'm sure there will be more of these requests. Requests & creative minds welcome...I'm really sick of red, white and blue. >>3) Are any of you open to mentoring other graphics people who might want to create themes? Yes...so long as they aren't color "challenged" like me ;) dale Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
RE: [hackers] Notes From Meeting
A few comments from my side. First, I'm sorry I had to idle when you got around to talking about migrating Wikki to DeanSpace. I don't know the particulars of my schedule this weekend. I have to spend some time with kids and grandparents, etc. However, the goal of Porting the Wikki starting sometime Friday, and having it done by the end of the weekend seems very reasonable. My expectation is that it is likely to be a page at a time. As such, instead of blacking out updates on the Wikki as a whole, my thought would be to black out pages at a time. e.g. As a page starts to be migrated, put in a header "Please do not update this page, it is currently being migrated" and when the migration is done, changing the header to "Please do not update this page, it has been migrated to http://www.deanspace.com/?q=node/view/23"; I do have a few concerns about the migration. My Drupal experience is okay, but not great, so I might not be thinking of the best way to do this. Suggestions are encouraged. My guess is that the Wikki becomes a Collaborative book. Is this right or is there a better way? My guess is that I will need to translate the Wikki codes into HTML. Again, is this right, or can Drupal support Wikki code? I'm not sure how best to do the links. One of the things I like best about Wiki is it's ability to automaticially link. Is there an equivalent in Drupal? Anyone have any other ideas on how best to migrate? I have started giving the migration a test in my sandbox. Go to http://ahynes1.homeip.net:8180/drupal/index.php?q=node/view/25 to take a look and to provide any comments. Aldon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joshua Koenig Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hackers] Notes From Meeting Here are the high points from tonights IRC meeting; it was long but productive. Mostly I've taken note of things that seem "actionable" or which affect our immediate progress. The most important thing that happened was a hashing out of our "vanilla" site kit feature list. This is what we're working towards for releast ASAP. The High Points 1) LynnS needs a module list and a central place to store documentation. Drumm suggests the book module. A feature-list was decided on later in the meeting (see below). 2) Zacker points out that there's already been some talk about install scripts and that some people have volunteered to coordinate. http://www.hack4dean.org/phpwiki/index.php?InstallationScripting 3) Josh_k would like a mailing list or something similar to help organize the MetaDean crew. Ditto for DeanSter. These will go up along with the new DeanSpace home for 4) eponics suggest a "fixed" taxonomy for the kit, ping suggests the same for people's interests/skills on deanster. The kit vanilla taxonomy (and other vanilla concerns) will be discussed on sunday at 3pm EST in the IRC channel. 5) Madoc volunteers to be a press/PR coordinator; he will post things to the wiki for collab-edit and send pointers to the wiki to an editorial-committee mailing list. 6) Milestones: people will self-set specific milestones. We will agree on general milestones in meetings, and rely on people to report on progress. We also need to be mindful of "external" milestones. - Zack will be a "nudger". - Jeffk points us to phpCollab: http://phpcollab.sourceforge.net/ - Ping suggests our milestones be specific - Zephyr points out that having a reliable sense of when things will be done is very important for the campaign - aldon: milestones should be tied to the needs of others 7) Setting milestones DRUPAL/KIT: - A vanilla release - Feature list: - endorse - event (calendar) - export (rss transmitter) - import (rss recieving) - mailinglist (mailing lists) - make_block (makes a node into a block) - postcard (ecard/graphic endorsement) - Not included: - Action (may end up being part of DeanSter) - Media (not necessary, potential hold-up)) - Needs tech support to be ready 8) DeanSpace: - Polycot is donating server jail. THANKS! - Neil is admin - He'll be around IRC and IM tomorrow as the site goes up - Josh, Zack, Madoc will work site copy - Aldon has volunteered to port the wiki - Neil will hack up a quick template, ask list for more support - Timeline for switch-over of h4d activity: site ready for migration on friday, migration finished by midnight sunday. Aldon will set blackout dates for wiki migration.
RE: [hackers] Easing potential conflict between "homegrown" sites andDeanSpace
I think Josh has an extremely important point here. I am currently developing the Connecticut for Dean site. (You can see a draft at http://ahynes1.homeip.net:8180/ct2, any comments would be welcome). The site is based on the Texas site (http://www.deanfortexas.com). Our go-live date is scheduled to be Aug 9th, after the State Coordinators meeting. One of the things that they want, and that Texas has is something like the Talent part MetaDean. I have mentioned MetaDean to them, and if we can find a nice way of doing it, we hope to incorporate the CTForDean database with MetaDean. Hopefully, I can finegal a migration to a Drupal based system at some point. It would seem like our best approach would be to slowly introduce ourselves to the different State Webmasters and get them interested and excited about finding a way to integrate with DeanSpace MHO, YMMV, Aldon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Josh Swartzbaugh Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hackers] Easing potential conflict between "homegrown" sites and DeanSpace Hello everyone! First I'd like to say that I'm very happy to be a part of this group. :) Uniting the various Dean movements is going to be one of the most important pieces of the puzzle to change this country's direction. It's not often that you can feel that you are really making a difference in the world, and I believe this group is, and will. Onward... This was brought up late in the meeting and was suggested to bring to the list instead: The DeanSpace plans seem to require every existing Dean group to have a DeanSpace node _in addition to_ their currently existing websites. I expect no one to be excited about abandoning their current sites... I expect few to be enthusiastic _beyond the initial excitement_ about maintaining an additional site that does not contribute to their current, "homegrown" sites. So could we develop stand-alone (non-drupal) modules (in php, asp, jsp, others? or perhaps just one, in client-side javascript?) that groups can put on their current sites, that will display (not alter, just display) the RSS feeds, thereby allowing a measure of integration between "homegrown" sites and DeanSpace nodes? Autonomy being the foundation of a grassroots movement, we don't want people to feel like DeanSpace is hijacking or upstaging their own work. Better yet, do such stand-alone modules already exist, GPL'd, and do they need to be expanded for our needs? Will we provide these as part of (or alongside) our kit? Peace, Josh Swartzbaugh [Madoc] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: [hackers] Easing potential conflict between "homegrown" sites and DeanSpace
I missed last night's meeting...sorry but I'm a day behind. uhm...what year is this?? ;) My (too many) thoughts. IMO DeanSpace (or whatever it will be called...I have NO clue)...the "kit" people will download and install.will be a godsend for many with existing sites (have you seen some of the sites up now...most born out of the meetups??) They are uninviting and little more than online flyers. It will take about 20 minutes (if that to set up) a Drupal and site maintenance will be minimal..content dynamic. It's too powerful to fight ;) Some will resist change certainlybut give the RIAA 10 more years and see where *they* end up ;) I could and should stop there but Speaking from personal experience with my local group There are few with the time available or skills to maintain a homegrown site. The only reason I didn't throw one up was because a) there seemed to be little interest I started a MT blog and 3 people used it 2 or 3 times. Learning curve was too steep apparently. I know my folks like Yahoo Groups... it's easy. Open...ReplySend(Here's the important partDelete!) This does nothing for creating real connections much less enable effective communication and organizing...among other things. (And I'm really sick of getting 10 emails pointing me to the same article about Dean). That's about all my Yahoo Group is these days. We were told..not asked bit told not so nicely...a flame war ensued) to refrain from free and open discussion by some irate I dunno how to read and don't wanna be spammed by yahoo ads the web list members. The Yahoo list was simply for Dean meetup related announcements/organizing only. Fun stuff eh? Connection making was squashed and in fact for my group, the yahoo list has become somewhat divisive. We had one person who cancelled a house party because she couldn't generate enough interest...yet my town has (at last check) around 400 signed up at MeetUp.com...and over 200 on the Yahoo Group. There is now confusion over where next weeks meetup is because meetup is telling people that there are two locations...but word on the Yahoo list is that the meeting will be at one location and not the other. What's wrong with this picture besides the fact that email sucks and meetup.com offers little for means of control and communication?? My Yahoo Group isn't conducive to connection making nor information sharing. No one can find it unless they look specifically for it. What uninitiated person wondering about Dean is gonna think "hey...lemme see if there's a local Yahoo Group for Dean?" How effective are online flyers? What about those who don't like mailing lists? Re: the cancelled house partysimply preaching to the choir...there's no real outreacheveryone's on the list is given/giving...they don't need a house party to learn about Dean or give more. Personally, I'd rather press a button to give Dean $25, than hang out at a stranger's house on a Saturday night. Ok so call me anti-social. ;) The meetups are great..but my experience has been that they don't do much for creating lasting connections between people...nor do website flyers or Yahoo Groups or weblogs that people can't seem to figure out how to use. People go to meetups..get excited..then mundane life distracts them until the next meetup. It seems to me the kit will make it not only possible but easier for people to make and maintain connections, stay motivated and hence be productive for the cause. Who could say no to that..other than some control I wanna do it my hard and ineffective way freak ;) I may be blind but I can't see how anyone could (rightly) interpret this as hijacking..unless they are just 'that' way. The tools are available to use...or not...there's always the choice. And secondly..I didn't just throw up site because I don't have time to be designer, webmaster, content developer and tech support person. Simply put...the 'kit' works for me and will work for my local group...and hence the Doc. Bottoms up I say ;) Although, point certainly taken here..if ya can't beat 'em...join 'em. And there will certainly be those who simply can't migrate for whatever reason(s). I don't know how feasible stand alone mods are though??? Maybe that could be something left as an after thought...if possible and if there really is enough demand for such things? Has this already been addressed..I'm behind a day..or year...remember.? ;) Will there be some sort of promotional sandbox? "Here...look how powerful and easy this kit is to use?" Something along those lines??? dale Josh Swartzbaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello everyone!First I'd like to say that I'm very happy to be a partof this group. :) Uniting the various Dean movementsis going to be one of the most important pieces of thepuzzle to change this country's direction. It's notoften that you can feel that you are really making adifference in the world, and I bel
[hackers] Transparency
Right now we are kinda opaque. People have to sign up to see whats going on. I can do whatever with the Drupal permissions or even use a second instance of Drupal for our internal communicaion. Are we okay with letting our lurkers be anonymous? I plan on letting them have privileges to view most things. -Neil
Re: [hackers] Transparency
Yes this makes sense to me - but i think they should be authenticated before they can submit things. Comments? -Zack On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Neil Drumm wrote: > Right now we are kinda opaque. People have to sign up to see whats going on. I can > do whatever with the Drupal permissions or even use a second instance of Drupal for > our internal communicaion. Are we okay with letting our lurkers be anonymous? I plan > on letting them have privileges to view most things. > > -Neil >
Re: [hackers] Transparency
> Yes this makes sense to me - but i think they should be authenticated > before they can submit things. Comments? > Submit content, as in posts, blogs, profiles, endorsements.. right? not scripts/code etc.. I haven't seen any specs indicating we 're inviting folks to submit the latter (at this stage) to DeanSpace (correct?); obviously that would be a blood red flag given all the karl rove wannabes out there; fake registration info, etc... If I'm stating the painfully obvious here; proceed with eye rolls and carry on... Hey Neil, is there a sandbox link to see the DeanSpace theme? I downloaded and installed but can't get it to take in my test enviro; bluesky and the others load fine though(?); debug time (where's my boss...) Thanks CMR <--enter gratuitous quotation that implies my profundity here-->
Re: [hackers] Transparency
Submit things - as in be active in development conversations. This means using the communication tools, posting blog entries, etc. Depending on what we do with the CVS (keep SF or set up out own tree) we can handle code submission authentication in the same way. -Zack On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, CMR wrote: > > > Yes this makes sense to me - but i think they should be authenticated > > before they can submit things. Comments? > > > > Submit content, as in posts, blogs, profiles, endorsements.. right? not > scripts/code etc.. I haven't seen any specs indicating we 're inviting folks > to submit the latter (at this stage) to DeanSpace (correct?); obviously that > would be a blood red flag given all the karl rove wannabes out there; fake > registration info, etc... > > If I'm stating the painfully obvious here; proceed with eye rolls and carry > on... > > Hey Neil, is there a sandbox link to see the DeanSpace theme? I downloaded > and installed but can't get it to take in my test enviro; bluesky and the > others load fine though(?); debug time (where's my boss...) > > Thanks > CMR > > <--enter gratuitous quotation that implies my profundity here--> > > >
Re: [hackers] Transparency
Right, authenticated to submit anything except comments. And different levels of authentication: Anonymous: Read and comment Authenicated: more privileges, but not a lot Developer: All of us, submit just about anything and probably some editing Admin: Admin, editing. -Neil Original message >Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:56:44 -0500 (CDT) >From: zachary rosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [hackers] Transparency >To: Neil Drumm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Yes this makes sense to me - but i think they should be authenticated >before they can submit things. Comments? > >-Zack > >On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Neil Drumm wrote: > >> Right now we are kinda opaque. People have to sign up to see whats going on. I can >> do whatever with the Drupal permissions or even use a second instance of Drupal for >> our internal communicaion. Are we okay with letting our lurkers be anonymous? I >> plan on letting them have privileges to view most things. >> >> -Neil >> >
Re: [hackers] Transparency
Yes... But you proposed a new descision :) Should we differentiate (through authentication) between non developers who are active in the community - and active developers? I.E. give lurkers less rights than participants? I am leaning yes - but what do you guys think? -Zack On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Neil Drumm wrote: > Right, authenticated to submit anything except comments. And different levels of > authentication: > > Anonymous: Read and comment > Authenicated: more privileges, but not a lot > Developer: All of us, submit just about anything and probably some editing > Admin: Admin, editing. > > -Neil > > Original message > >Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:56:44 -0500 (CDT) > >From: zachary rosen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: [hackers] Transparency > >To: Neil Drumm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Yes this makes sense to me - but i think they should be authenticated > >before they can submit things. Comments? > > > >-Zack > > > >On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Neil Drumm wrote: > > > >> Right now we are kinda opaque. People have to sign up to see whats going on. I > >> can do whatever with the Drupal permissions or even use a second instance of > >> Drupal for our internal communicaion. Are we okay with letting our lurkers be > >> anonymous? I plan on letting them have privileges to view most things. > >> > >> -Neil > >> > > >
Re: [hackers] Easing potential conflict between 'homegrown' sites and DeanSpace
Hello all I've been onboard since early on, basically lurking and following the email exchanges. But I'm glad that Josh S. has brought back the idea of non-Drupal modules. I suggested a while back that there be an MT module for bloggers, to put into a sidebar. I think that if we reach out to some of the more political webloggers using MT we could get help creating and distributing it. While you folks are busy with Drupal, I'll start looking into this angle. If anybody has additional ideas on separate modules, let me know. Dave Pentecost I expect no one to > be excited about abandoning their current sites... I > expect few to be enthusiastic _beyond the initial > excitement_ about maintaining an additional site that > does not contribute to their current, "homegrown" > sites. So could we develop stand-alone (non-drupal) > modules (in php, asp, jsp, others? or perhaps just > one, in client-side javascript?) that groups can put > on their current sites, that will display (not alter, > just display) the RSS feeds, thereby allowing a > measure of integration between "homegrown" sites and > DeanSpace nodes? Autonomy being the foundation of a > grassroots movement, we don't want people to feel like > DeanSpace is hijacking or upstaging their own work. > > Better yet, do such stand-alone modules already exist, > GPL'd, and do they need to be expanded for our needs? > Will we provide these as part of (or alongside) our > kit? > > Peace, > Josh Swartzbaugh > [Madoc] > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
RE: [hackers] Easing potential conflict between 'homegrown' sites and DeanSpace
Dave et al -- As I said last night in the chat, I think the modules will be the most heavily used part of this -- already tech-savvy groups will want to hook into aspects, but not all, of this service. In fact, I think introducing the service as module or site will vastly increase the likelihood of it catching on and connecting communities. Thanks so much Z Zephyr Teachout Internet Organizing & Outreach Dean for America [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meetup at http://www.deanforamerica.com/meetup Get local at http://action.deanforamerica.com Contribute at http://www.deanforamerica.com/contribute -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Pentecost Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hackers] Easing potential conflict between 'homegrown' sites and DeanSpace Hello all I've been onboard since early on, basically lurking and following the email exchanges. But I'm glad that Josh S. has brought back the idea of non-Drupal modules. I suggested a while back that there be an MT module for bloggers, to put into a sidebar. I think that if we reach out to some of the more political webloggers using MT we could get help creating and distributing it. While you folks are busy with Drupal, I'll start looking into this angle. If anybody has additional ideas on separate modules, let me know. Dave Pentecost I expect no one to > be excited about abandoning their current sites... I > expect few to be enthusiastic _beyond the initial > excitement_ about maintaining an additional site that > does not contribute to their current, "homegrown" > sites. So could we develop stand-alone (non-drupal) > modules (in php, asp, jsp, others? or perhaps just > one, in client-side javascript?) that groups can put > on their current sites, that will display (not alter, > just display) the RSS feeds, thereby allowing a > measure of integration between "homegrown" sites and > DeanSpace nodes? Autonomy being the foundation of a > grassroots movement, we don't want people to feel like > DeanSpace is hijacking or upstaging their own work. > > Better yet, do such stand-alone modules already exist, > GPL'd, and do they need to be expanded for our needs? > Will we provide these as part of (or alongside) our > kit? > > Peace, > Josh Swartzbaugh > [Madoc] > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
RE: [hackers] Easing potential conflict between 'homegrown' sitesand DeanSpace
MT module is something we have been talking about doing for quite some time. By all means Dave - run with it, it will get a lot of use I am sure. -Zack On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Zephyr Teachout wrote: > Dave et al -- > > As I said last night in the chat, I think the modules will be the most > heavily used part of this -- already tech-savvy groups will want to hook > into aspects, but not all, of this service. In fact, I think introducing > the service as module or site will vastly increase the likelihood of it > catching on and connecting communities. > > Thanks so much > > Z > > Zephyr Teachout > Internet Organizing & Outreach > Dean for America > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Meetup at http://www.deanforamerica.com/meetup > Get local at http://action.deanforamerica.com > Contribute at http://www.deanforamerica.com/contribute > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Dave Pentecost > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:37 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hackers] Easing potential conflict between 'homegrown' > sites and DeanSpace > > Hello all > > I've been onboard since early on, basically lurking and following the > email exchanges. But I'm glad that Josh S. has brought back the idea of > non-Drupal modules. I suggested a while back that there be an MT module > for bloggers, to put into a sidebar. I think that if we reach out to > some > of the more political webloggers using MT we could get help creating and > distributing it. > > While you folks are busy with Drupal, I'll start looking into this > angle. > If anybody has additional ideas on separate modules, let me know. > > Dave Pentecost > > > I expect no one to > > be excited about abandoning their current sites... I > > expect few to be enthusiastic _beyond the initial > > excitement_ about maintaining an additional site that > > does not contribute to their current, "homegrown" > > sites. So could we develop stand-alone (non-drupal) > > modules (in php, asp, jsp, others? or perhaps just > > one, in client-side javascript?) that groups can put > > on their current sites, that will display (not alter, > > just display) the RSS feeds, thereby allowing a > > measure of integration between "homegrown" sites and > > DeanSpace nodes? Autonomy being the foundation of a > > grassroots movement, we don't want people to feel like > > DeanSpace is hijacking or upstaging their own work. > > > > Better yet, do such stand-alone modules already exist, > > GPL'd, and do they need to be expanded for our needs? > > Will we provide these as part of (or alongside) our > > kit? > > > > Peace, > > Josh Swartzbaugh > > [Madoc] > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > > >
Re: [hackers] Easing potential conflict between 'homegrown' sites and DeanSpace
I have been busy with other project lately myself and have been hanging back like Dave, but this is something I thought I should really speak up on. I know the idea is to make it "easy" for people to use the kit and get their sites up and running in no time. I installed a drupal test site a while back, and had some other non programmer/ non web people look at the admin interface. Their main issue was that the admin interface was far from "easy" to understand. dale said, "Will there be some sort of promotional sandbox? "Here...look how powerful and easy this kit is to use?" Something along those lines???" We can certainly sell everyone on the idea of the functionality of this "kit", but honestly I don't think we will be able to show how "easy" to use it is unless we redesign the admin interface somewhat because it is not exactly "easy" or intuitive for the average user to understand. Given this I think it will make it even less likely that people who already have sites running to want to switch over, and make people who aren't very technically savy, intimidated at the very least. I know something similar to this has been talked about before, and I realize that it is mostly the terminology that Drupal uses that can be misleading or hard to understand. Since redesigning the admin interface would take too long, perhaps rewriting the documentation to more of a step by step tutorial with diagrams/screen shots to make setup and use as easy as possible. Basically what I am saying is that we may need a "DeanSpace Drupal for Dummies" guide or something to make it as "easy" as possible. Is this being done or has it been assigned? If not what do you all think? As for seperate modules, I think it would be a good idea to offer the basics for communicating to the network of sites. The problem is knowing what to design for in terms of languages and having a database or not. We need to figure out what group of people will not want to switch and why. Then target that group with the seperate modules. If we create great insturctions for the "kits", as suggested above, then I think the only people who will not want to switch we be those who have already devleoped tools for themselves and have already made interactive/dynamic sites. So I believe that those most likely to not switch, i.e. need seperate, non drupal dependent modules are the more technically proficient people believe it or not. So if this is the group we are targeting then these seperate modules should probably be made with ASP and PHP and be made to work with several different databases. Just my 2 cents err or maybe 3 or 4 ;) Toro --- Dave Pentecost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all > > I've been onboard since early on, basically lurking > and following the > email exchanges. But I'm glad that Josh S. has > brought back the idea of > non-Drupal modules. I suggested a while back that > there be an MT module > for bloggers, to put into a sidebar. I think that if > we reach out to some > of the more political webloggers using MT we could > get help creating and > distributing it. > > While you folks are busy with Drupal, I'll start > looking into this angle. > If anybody has additional ideas on separate modules, > let me know. > > Dave Pentecost __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
[hackers] Assorted
Transparency: I vote for letting lurkers be anonymous. Although it does come back to my earlier question: Is there any nice way to make particular posts only readable by a certain set of users. Personally, I would even allow anonymous people to post. If they post anything unappropriate, the admins/moderators can remove then posts. In a nutshell, I like Neil's four levels of users, including differentiation between authenticated lurkers and developers. Wiki or Book: I started doing things as books. I haven't played with a wiki module for Drupal. Is there one? I will load it and play with it and provide my comments. I do like the idea of Wiki for quickly changing things and books for something more permanent. I also like the idea of Wiki requiring authentication, and books being transparent DeanSpace Theme: The version that Neil sent yesterday is up on http://ahynes1.homeip.net:8180/drupal/ Aldon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Neil Drumm Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hackers] Transparency Right now we are kinda opaque. People have to sign up to see whats going on. I can do whatever with the Drupal permissions or even use a second instance of Drupal for our internal communicaion. Are we okay with letting our lurkers be anonymous? I plan on letting them have privileges to view most things. -Neil
RE: [hackers] Easing potential conflict between 'homegrown' sites andDeanSpace
And when you have MT modules ready for testing I have an MT sandbox up and running, as I'm sure many other people here do. Please let us know and we'll kick the tires. Aldon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of zachary rosen Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:02 PM To: Zephyr Teachout Cc: 'Dave Pentecost'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hackers] Easing potential conflict between 'homegrown' sites and DeanSpace MT module is something we have been talking about doing for quite some time. By all means Dave - run with it, it will get a lot of use I am sure. -Zack
Re: [hackers] Assorted
> Wiki or Book: I started doing things as books. I haven't played > with a wiki module for Drupal. Is there one? I will load it and > play with it and provide my comments. I do like the idea of Wiki for > quickly changing things and books for something more permanent. I > also like the idea of Wiki requiring authentication, and books being > transparent The book has a versioning system, so in that sense it is a wiki. Anyone can edit it depending on permissions. The one this missing from the wiki is the CapitaLized syntax that automagically makes it a link. Otherwise, I kind of like it better, as it is more linear in it's organization. What other important parts of a wiki are there? JW -- jeff wiegand - electroponics, inc. There is only one type of discipline, perfect discipline. - George Patton
[hackers] Mailing lists
We can have mailing lists off of deanspace.org. Here is my thinking for the lists: announce: announce from americansfordean.com deanspace: [EMAIL PROTECTED] devel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or we can start using the forum.module which was modded to send email. Zack/Josh: I need addresses or whatever to set this up, or you can set it up.
Re: [hackers] Mailing lists
Q: What would go on the announcments list? I also think a graphics / theming list might be useful (no?). There was also talk of a MetaDean list and a Deanster list. What do you guys think? -Zack On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Neil Drumm wrote: > We can have mailing lists off of deanspace.org. Here is my thinking for the lists: > > announce: announce from americansfordean.com > deanspace: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > devel: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or we can start using the forum.module which was modded to send email. > > Zack/Josh: I need addresses or whatever to set this up, or you can set it up. >
[hackers] RE: [developers] SignUpGoodAt page obsoleted
Lets put it in the book then :) -Zack -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ka-Ping Yee Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:43 PM To: Neil Drumm Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [developers] SignUpGoodAt page obsoleted On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Neil Drumm wrote: > http://deanspace.org/node/view/26 > > This is one of the old wiki pages which no longer needs to exist. Really? I think it's wonderful to have one place to go where you can read and learn about everybody. It was one of the most useful pages for me when i joined. -- ?!ng
