Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Robert Paulson
It is not possible unless you did something like switching from fast to instant respawn. In that case we went from 10 to a whopping 30 quickplay connects per day which is hardly worth being pleased about. Official servers are still taking the vast majority of new players who are never exposed to

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread John Irwin
It would be a more realistic solution to switch quickplay settings to community servers after 3-4 hours of playing time. This far from the worst suggestion I've seen. Perhaps aim for a seemless solution where by community servers wasn't even a choice during the first few hours of gameplay,

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Robert Paulson
This far from the worst suggestion I've seen. Perhaps aim for a seemless solution where by community servers wasn't even a choice during the first few hours of gameplay, becomes a choice later, then becomes the default after it has been selected a couple of times. I don't like this modification

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Anthony
Anyone who believes that petitioning for the default to be community servers is relying on quickplay traffic far too heavily or using it to i.e Play Ads. Remember with a good community you won't need quickplay for the majority of my traffic they actually find the server themselves via the

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Silencio Delgato
I think there is more to the Quickplay issue than just whether or not QP should default to Valve servers or not. QP itself has caused a lot of issues and became the center of controversy ever since it came out in 2011. Though some of the changes that have been added recently are a step in the

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Robert Paulson
How are we responsible for communities like bets.tf using redirect exploits? We do not have any influence over these people. Valve is punishing the majority of us who did nothing wrong. TF2 player count dropping is proof that this decision was a mistake. The player experience was not improved by

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Supreet
Wow. Thanks for posting that Robert. This is just disheartening to see. Hopefully, Valve will do something about this and fix this problem. What Valve needs to understand and ask themselves is do we even play enough TF2 or host enough servers to understand player dynamics? Community server ops

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread davidaap1234
] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development How are we responsible for communities like bets.tf using redirect exploits? We do not have any influence over these people. Valve is punishing the majority of us who did nothing wrong. TF2 player count dropping is proof that this decision was a mistake

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Robert Paulson
: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development How are we responsible for communities like bets.tf using redirect exploits? We do not have any influence over these people. Valve is punishing the majority of us who did nothing wrong. TF2 player count dropping is proof that this decision was a mistake

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Phillip Vector
Message -- From: Robert Paulson thepauls...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: 26-2-2014 22:27:57 Subject: Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development How are we responsible for communities like bets.tf using redirect exploits

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Derek Howard
@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: 26-2-2014 22:27:57 Subject: Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development How are we responsible for communities like bets.tf using redirect exploits? We do not have any influence over these people. Valve is punishing the majority of us who did nothing wrong. TF2

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Phillip Vector
-- From: Robert Paulson thepauls...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: 26-2-2014 22:27:57 Subject: Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development How are we responsible for communities like bets.tf using redirect exploits? We do

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Valentin G.
-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: 26-2-2014 22:27:57 Subject: Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development How are we responsible for communities like bets.tf using redirect exploits? We do not have any influence over these people. Valve is punishing

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Phillip Vector
Sent: 26-2-2014 22:27:57 Subject: Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development How are we responsible for communities like bets.tf using redirect exploits? We do not have any influence over these people. Valve is punishing the majority of us who did nothing wrong. TF2 player count

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread 1nsane
: Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development How are we responsible for communities like bets.tf using redirect exploits? We do not have any influence over these people. Valve is punishing the majority of us who did nothing wrong. TF2 player count dropping is proof that this decision

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Phillip Vector
not. -- Original Message -- From: Robert Paulson thepauls...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: 26-2-2014 22:27:57 Subject: Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development How are we responsible for communities like bets.tf using redirect

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Michelle
-MY- TF2 player count dropping is proof that this decision was a mistake. Instead of TF2 player count dropping is proof that this decision was a mistake. I for one love the quickplay vanilla servers. And the pick your official server feature is great so I don't get stuck in a high ping match.

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Valentin G.
list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: 26-2-2014 22:27:57 Subject: Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development How are we responsible for communities like bets.tf using redirect exploits? We do not have any influence over these people. Valve is punishing the majority of us who did

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Supreet
First and foremost, no disrespect intended but you should do more research. In-game browser does support Flash. MOTDgd solely runs on Flash and Pinion runs 60% of their ads on Flash approximately. Also, the in-game browser supports JavaScript and limited HTML5 features. It borrows WebKit which was

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread 1nsane
-2014 22:27:57 Subject: Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development How are we responsible for communities like bets.tf using redirect exploits? We do not have any influence over these people. Valve is punishing the majority of us who did nothing wrong. TF2 player count dropping is proof

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Alexander Z
not. -- Original Message -- From: Robert Paulson thepauls...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: 26-2-2014 22:27:57 Subject: Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development How are we responsible

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-26 Thread Phillip Vector
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: 26-2-2014 22:27:57 Subject: Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development How are we responsible for communities like bets.tf using redirect exploits? We do not have any influence over these people

[hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-25 Thread Supreet
If we as server ops want to see a change made, let's do this the legitimate way and get as many signatures as we can to show the importance of the change. Please don't leave any hatred or foul remarks. If you would not like to participate, please ignore it. If you would like to see a change take

Re: [hlds] Petitioning Valve TF2 Development

2014-02-25 Thread Peter Jerde
I don't know about you, but our quickplay traffic has more than TRIPLED since the changes. Seems to have been quite a positive change. - Peter ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: