On Wed, 26 Oct 2011, E3pO wrote:
I personally think they need to make a bug zilla type thing that people can
commit bugs to and then have a dev blog that people can rss to check for
upcoming updates or questions. Then people can comment to the blog post.
Keep the existing mailing list but
-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
I prefer mailing list. Just because it's easy to use while reading
regular e-mail and you can just pick a message to read easily, delete
immediately the rest that you don't need. On forum, you have to browse
, October 24, 2011 10:03 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
I prefer mailing list. Just because it's easy to use while reading
regular e-mail and you can just pick a message to read easily, delete
immediately the rest that you
It would probably be somewhat difficult, but would a hybrid approach be
possible? For example, make a subforum on the steam forums which
mirrors all emails sent to this list, and pushes all posts made by
logged-in forum users back to this list? It would make this list
searchable, people
I prefer the mailinglist, tons of reasons why i would want that more then a
forum (ease of use being one of them)
But if we *have* to move to the forums, at least make it so that we have
our own section only for server maintainers, say for instance only people
with a registered server with good
I think I can fix our forum vs email problem with both sides being happy. :D
Just got a coding idea. We'll see where it goes.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Eric Riemers riem...@binkey.nl wrote:
I prefer the mailinglist, tons of reasons why i would want that more then a
forum (ease of use
Forum = moderation.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Kigen theki...@gmail.com wrote:
I think I can fix our forum vs email problem with both sides being happy.
:D
Just got a coding idea. We'll see where it goes.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Eric Riemers riem...@binkey.nl wrote:
I
So... I'm for having a forum.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:59 AM, James Puckett
jamesrichardpuck...@gmail.com wrote:
Forum = moderation.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:39 AM, Kigen theki...@gmail.com wrote:
I think I can fix our forum vs email problem with both sides being happy.
:D
Just got a
A Google Group might be good because it can be used as mailman serv with a
nice visual frontend and archive. People who like this current format could
keep using it or people who are for forums could opt out of email updates
and just browse through the frontend. Everything would be much easier to
I'm not reading through all the responses, since it would be better served on a
forum.
I am a member on this list to receive the announcement of updates (or as of
lately, the pre-announcements, the update of you must have your server
registered).
If this list is to be preserved, I would like
There actually is a [hlds_announce] list for just that propose but its
fallen out of use I don't believe I've seen anything sent on it in over a
month now.
~Michael
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2011, Michael wrote:
There actually is a [hlds_announce] list for just that propose but its
fallen out of use I don't believe I've seen anything sent on it in over a
month now.
Last message was only a couple of days ago.
Oct 21 Tony Paloma [hlds_announce] Team Fortress 2
I have another suggestion. Maybe limit the mailing list to server operators
only?
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:46 AM, kama k...@pvp.se wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011, Michael wrote:
There actually is a [hlds_announce] list for just that propose but its
fallen out of use I don't believe I've
I'm casting my vote for the Mailing Group. It's nice to be able to check my
phone for a new message and see if I have to hit my emergency UPDATE SERVER
button. Forums that email me could do about the same thing, but there isn't
anything wrong with the current mailing list as it stands right now.
Unless they do something like requiring a server token ID when signing
up for the list, there's no possible way for them to enforce this. It
would be great if they did/could, but it would never happen.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Rob Liu robl...@gmail.com wrote:
I have another suggestion.
There are a few (probably very few, but we exist) people that need
to monitor the list, and are perfectly capable of posting relevant
replies, that don't run servers.
The current system is fine, people that are being acidic to the
quality of the list just need to be removed.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011
That's probably true, but I don't think a system should be setup to
cater to the minority.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Asher Baker asher...@gmail.com wrote:
There are a few (probably very few, but we exist) people that need
to monitor the list, and are perfectly capable of posting relevant
I am going to drag this thread on a little more.
There have been quite a few replies regarding two subjects:
1.) The opinion that the list/forum should be locked down somehow, based
on a valid steam ID, or a server ID, etc.
2.) That the communications on the list should be limited to
I personally think they need to make a bug zilla type thing that people can
commit bugs to and then have a dev blog that people can rss to check for
upcoming updates or questions. Then people can comment to the blog post.
Keep the existing mailing list but also run a forum powered by the mailing
I am honestly astounded by the amount of people who complain when
people ask for help on help forums or mailing lists. Not everyone
signs up and instantly reads everything, goes through all the
archives, or spends hours researching.
I'd like to use this comment as a springboard for a discussion
: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:34 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list ;
h...@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
I am honestly astounded by the amount of people who complain when
people ask for help on help forums or mailing lists. Not everyone
signs
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
Never ever change this to a forum. I prefer to have one place to check
important things, so I have added several mailing lists. Otherwise I had to
check every forum on the planet to get the informations
list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
Never ever change this to a forum. I prefer to have one place to check
important things, so I have added several mailing lists. Otherwise I had to
check every forum on the planet to get the informations, that's back to
stone age
Yes, but problems like When is Valve going to do something about fake
clients stealing gamer names/images in the name of padding server stats?
goes completely ignored in the forums. At least we know when it goes to the
list you guys have actually read it.
Speaking of which, why is the Halloween
Dunn fletch...@valvesoftware.com
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hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; h...@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 2:34 AM
Subject: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
I am honestly astounded by the amount of people who complain when
server mailing list ;
h...@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
What if you got an email when there was a new post? (That's what I meant by
push notification.)
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From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds_linux-boun
Schedel
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 5:41 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
Never ever change this to a forum. I prefer to have one place to check
important things, so I have added several mailing lists. Otherwise I had to
check every
I really prefer this list. I subscribe to multiple list and it allows
me to get my news in one place, my mail client. I have multiple
folders and filter to manage everything neatly. (I use claws-mail)
There is no way I could keep up with all the lists I'm subscribed to
if they were all in
server mailing list ;
h...@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
What if you got an email when there was a new post? (That's what I meant
by push notification.)
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On Behalf Of Ronny Schedel
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 5:41 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
Never ever change
, click this
link to read it.
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- From: Fletcher Dunn
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
What if you got an email when
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On Behalf Of Ronny Schedel
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 5:41 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
Never ever change this to a forum. I prefer to have one place
, October 24, 2011 18:39
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
Going off what Jeff Sugar just said in the thread that started this,
and reiterating what I said earlier - the main reason the list fails
(and moving SPUF would only make it worse
I still prefer email list, Fletch. I prioritize email from valve employees
first, but have found some utility in general posting from others. The
farther away from server maintenance and updates the discussion get, the
less interest I have (recent discussion on classes, etc).
Honestly, I think
I'll throw in a vote for the mailing list format as well. Half for the
instant notifications and easy reading, and half admittedly because
I'm a bit old-fashioned.
The google groups style option, however, might be a great compromise.
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Subject: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com, h...@list.valvesoftware.com
h...@list.valvesoftware.com
I am honestly astounded by the amount of people who complain when
people ask for help on help forums
i like the mailing list my self, but as an alternative i'd say something
like what byteframe was talking about with the google groups.
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:34 PM, Andrew thew...@thewaveserver.com wrote:
I'll throw in a vote for the mailing list format as well. Half for the
instant
on ATT
-Original message-
From: David Parker dpar...@utica.edu
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tue, Oct 25, 2011 02:55:49 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
Hello,
The last time this was brought up
, 2011 8:34 pm
Subject: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com, h...@list.valvesoftware.com
h...@list.valvesoftware.com
I am honestly astounded by the amount of people who complain when
people ask for help
I prefer mailing lists, which is why I am here. Discussion and replies
are below:
I prefer mailing lists because there is a small technical barrier to
entry. Chances are that you had to use a search engine to find it,
which means you probably already tried to find what you were looking
It's not a pros versus newbs thing, it's exactly what you said - the
list isn't for a social experience. If someone wants to bitch about
how quickplay is ruining their server or about how hats have ruined
the game, then do it somewhere else. I continue to use the phrase
relevant to server
I too would prefer to keep the mailing list. If a forum materializes out of
this conversation, I would be interested in becoming a moderator. I'm
already super active in the Steam Forums and you guys may or may not have
noticed that I update the Steam Forums server sections almost everyday.
On
What about adding some kind of easy searching to the mailing list
archives? That seems to be only commonly brought up minus to keeping
this format.
I am able to access them (the archives) with my login, but the
standard listings by month and downloadable gzip'ed archives makes
searching
Of Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:29 AM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
What about adding some kind of easy searching to the mailing list
archives? That seems to be only commonly brought up minus to keeping
this format.
I am
I prefer mailing list. Just because it's easy to use while reading
regular e-mail and you can just pick a message to read easily, delete
immediately the rest that you don't need. On forum, you have to browse
around on many threads and it's very time consuming. I also hate the
SPUF style where
-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of ics
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 10:03 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
I prefer mailing list. Just because it's easy to use while reading
regular e-mail and you can just pick
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