Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-09-02 Thread Pierre Béland
De : Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com À : Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com Cc : hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 23 août 2014 11h04 Objet : Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread Le 20/08/2014 16:13, Blake Girardot a écrit : [...] I

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-09-01 Thread Blake Girardot
Hi, If anyone else found the recent update to JOSM making GNS name merging more difficult, I found the change that made the biggest difference to how I work on the process: https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Dialog/MapPaint#Stylesettings Less obtrusive node symbols at low zoom I had

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-23 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Le 20/08/2014 16:13, Blake Girardot a écrit : [...] I would love another map source for Liberia. And it seems that you found it. :) 8 georeferenced County maps from LISGIS (from this page: http://www.lisgis.net/page.php?7d5f44532cbfc489b8db9e12e44eb820=NDQ%3D ) that include villages (with

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-20 Thread Ralf Stephan
There appears to be a problem in the GNS import task #619. In particular, the OSM data of tile #258 cannot be downloaded. The server says it's too big, like when I try to make a manual download from JOSM with a big area. Other tiles had no problem so far, and I just now could download tile #252

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-20 Thread Pierre Béland
eventually integrate directly into the Task Manager such request for Import Tasks.   Pierre De : Ralf Stephan gtrw...@gmail.com À : Cc : HOT Discussion list hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 20 août 2014 2h21 Objet : Re: [HOT] GNS name merging

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-20 Thread Andrew Buck
: Ralf Stephan gtrw...@gmail.com À : Cc : HOT Discussion list hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Mercredi 20 août 2014 2h21 Objet : Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread There appears to be a problem in the GNS import task #619. In particular, the OSM data of tile #258 cannot

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-20 Thread Tom Taylor
The work I've done so far has been easy because someone else did most of it. However, I have noted source discrepancies: JOG, AMS-2 (don't know what that is), but not the US Army Topo maps. In fact, JOG is fairly sparse and the latter are the prime source. Would AMS-2 be the US Army reference?

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-20 Thread Andrew Buck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yeah, AMS I think is Army Maps Service, not sure what the 2 means, but I think those are the white, US Army Topo Maps in that other layer. - -AndrewBuck On 08/20/2014 08:45 AM, Tom Taylor wrote: The work I've done so far has been easy because

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-20 Thread Jean-Guilhem Cailton
Yes, AMS-2 is for US Army Map Service (AMS), Series G504, 1955- (1:250,000) (Actually many from 1963). Unfortunately, its available maps only cover the extreme north of Liberia (beside Sierra Leone and Guinea): https://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ams/west_africa/txu-oclc-6595921-index.jpg There is

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-17 Thread Tom Taylor
On 17/08/2014 5:03 AM, Tom Taylor wrote: ... I also note from memory that there is a Palima without attributed source on the east side of the Sewa River and one further west that I took from GNS and verified against the US Army Topo map. TomT5454 Tom Taylor Sorry, I take this one back. Both

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-17 Thread Blake Girardot
Hi Tom, I agree about the duplicate names, I just ran into a few in Liberia. But I have another question related to how we should handle names. I am running into several nodes where the name tag is one name, but the JOG map shows another name. Now this other name is almost always listed as

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-17 Thread Andrew Buck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For these I have just been making sure it gets in as an alternate name and not been putting a fixme on them. The spelling of these names is not generally fixed, and the names seem to be fairly fluid over time. Without local knowledge to know which

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-17 Thread Blake Girardot
On 8/17/2014 10:34 AM, Andrew Buck wrote: For these I have just been making sure it gets in as an alternate name and not been putting a fixme on them. The spelling of these names is not generally fixed, and the names seem to be fairly fluid over time. Without local knowledge to know which

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-16 Thread Ralf Stephan
Hi, when trying to load GNS from a split square in task #619, nothing is loaded (unsplit squares do work). Also, trying to download data directly from the given link http://dev.camptocamp.com/files/hotosm/ebola_sierra_leone_gns_import/gns_12_1921_2139.shp.csv will yield a 404. Can someone please

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-16 Thread Andrew Buck
of Sierra Leone. regard Pierre De : Ralf Stephan gtrw...@gmail.com À : Cc : HOT Discussion list hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 16 août 2014 3h10 Objet : Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread Hi, when trying to load GNS from

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-16 Thread Pierre Béland
Oups! did not spot splitted square. I go back to my morning coffee!   Pierre De : Andrew Buck andrew.r.b...@gmail.com À : hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 16 août 2014 9h10 Objet : Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-16 Thread Tom Taylor
Just a tip for someone starting out on this task using JOSM. After stetting up the GNS and image layers (including the US Topo and JOG maps in the area I'm working on), my work cycle is this: - activate the GNS layer - select a point - copy it to the Data 1 layer using Shift-Ctl-M - activate

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-15 Thread Andrew Buck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am aware of the problems with using residential areas for village outlines, however using the place=* instead of landuse=residential on the outline doesn't really solve the problem either. Many African towns are composed of numerous clusters of

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-14 Thread Blake Girardot
Hi, When I see a name on a city on the JOG map and see it clearly in the imagery, but it is not in my GNS import, I will place a hamlet node on it and name it manually. I also generally quickly put a landuse=residential area on top of any settlements that I am merging if I have good clear

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-14 Thread clara
Hi, my main problem so far is that I ended up with quite a few places in the GNS import that I can't clearly assign to any of the residential areas that I can see on the map. Ever so often there are two or three places about equally far from the marker. And that's even for places without a skip

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-14 Thread Blake Girardot
On 8/14/2014 1:52 PM, clara wrote: Hi, my main problem so far is that I ended up with quite a few places in the GNS import that I can't clearly assign to any of the residential areas that I can see on the map. Ever so often there are two or three places about equally far from the marker.

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-14 Thread Blake Girardot
Oh, one other thing. When I am putting a fixme=Location approximate node in place, if there are tiny settlements or individual buildings in the area I will make sure I mark them properly as buildings or residential areas on the OSM map so someone in the field could at least have an idea of

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-14 Thread Pierre Béland
distinction between the nodes places=* and the residential areas polygons.   Pierre De : Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com À : Paul Norman penor...@mac.com Cc : hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 14 août 2014 17h44 Objet : Re: [HOT] GNS name merging

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-14 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/14/2014 3:12 PM, Pierre Béland wrote: As a general rule, we outline residential landuse areas using the tag landuse=residential. There might be many for one village. Sure - the only problem is when you can't be reasonably certain that what you're tracing is only residential. In those

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-14 Thread Blake Girardot
Hi, For what it is worth, I am finding these additional imagery sources very helpful in northern Liberia, I have no idea what their coverage is for other parts, but so far they are great for my current square and have already been used in that area as they show up in the source fields of

Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread

2014-08-14 Thread Pierre Béland
...@gmail.com À : hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 14 août 2014 21h54 Objet : Re: [HOT] GNS name merging discussion thread Hi, For what it is worth, I am finding these additional imagery sources very helpful in northern Liberia, I have no idea what their coverage is for other parts, but so