Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-13 Thread m.wolkst...@gmx.de
hiho patrick, mostly just for fun i have reactivate the hydrogenplayer application. now it compiled with scons. try out branches hydrogen-player. i have add some new commands. her is a list with available commands: - Commands - hydrogen player 0.9.4 --- TRANSPORT:

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-13 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/14/2009 09:50 AM, m.wolkst...@gmx.de wrote: hiho patrick, mostly just for fun i have reactivate the hydrogenplayer application. now it compiled with scons. try out branches hydrogen-player. i have add some new commands. her is a list with available commands: - Commands - hydrogen

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-04 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote: If we spin off libhydrogen, we could: * Offer Hydrogen sampler as a plugin. Where's the interface? Do you mean GUI? It depends on the plugin system... but generally plugins don't come with GUI's. There have been several requests to have

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-03 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: FWIW, this sort of thing is why I want to spin off libhydrogen and also UN-singleton everything. By having H2Core::Hydrogen (and friends) be singleton classes means that you need separate processes in order to get this sort of behavior.

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-03 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: More on this thought (just for records) If we spin off libhydrogen, we could:   * Offer Hydrogen sampler as a plugin.   * Offer the 'classic' Hydrogen front-end, and possibly     spin off a new application with the

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-02 Thread Sebastian Moors
Patrick Shirkey schrieb: On 09/02/2009 12:57 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: Patrick Shirkey wrote: On 09/01/2009 03:12 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: Patrick Shirkey wrote - Multiple song playback at one time - has anyone tried this yet with the

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-02 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/02/2009 05:39 PM, Sebastian Moors wrote: Patrick Shirkey schrieb: On 09/02/2009 12:57 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: Patrick Shirkey wrote: On 09/01/2009 03:12 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: Patrick Shirkey wrote - Multiple song playback at

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: I suggest that we collect all feature requests and future directions into one document. (Well, as many as we can) FWIW, I plan to build this document after fixing issues with the manual. I have all the e-mails and will use those to

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote:     * Real-time looping with overdub (even if we're just       being a front-end for sooperlooper). Like in Ableton? Alexandre -- Let Crystal Reports

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Sebastian Moors
Hi Orcan, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: Hi, I haven't been following the recent development status so I may be outdated. What is the current status of standardizing the drumsets? i.e. opening one song -that was recorded by a particular drumkit- with a different drumkit. It used to be that each song

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:     * Real-time looping with overdub (even if we're just       being a front-end for sooperlooper). Like in Ableton? First, my full experience with Live is the 2 or 3 official videos from Ableton on YouTube. So all I can say is, Dunno.

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Sebastian Moors
Patrick Shirkey wrote: On 09/01/2009 03:12 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: Patrick Shirkey wrote - Multiple song playback at one time - has anyone tried this yet with the playlist code? That won't work at the moment, and i believe that it will be hard (hard means we have to

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
Hi Sebastian, On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Sebastian Moors wrote: One would create a group of patterns in the song editor ( via shortcut) and then select the group of patterns as a the object which gets triggered by your button.. I think what Patrick is getting at is triggering patterns or groups of

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Sebastian Moors
Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: I suggest that we collect all feature requests and future directions into one document. (Well, as many as we can) FWIW, I plan to build this document after fixing issues with the manual. I

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote:     * Real-time looping with overdub (even if we're just       being a front-end for sooperlooper). Like in Ableton? First, my full experience with Live is the 2 or 3 official videos from Ableton on YouTube.  So all I can say

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Sebastian Moors wrote: * One screen, uncluttered interface.[1] Make sure it works with Netbooks (like the EEE PC). Does this refer to the whole application or just the sampler interface? I was thinking the whole app. * JACK only. Reduce the number

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-09-01 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/02/2009 12:57 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: Patrick Shirkey wrote: On 09/01/2009 03:12 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: Patrick Shirkey wrote - Multiple song playback at one time - has anyone tried this yet with the playlist code? That won't work at the

[Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
Hi Guys, There has been a lot of talk about new features, new directions, etc., etc. In addition, Patrick is doing a good job of drumming up support for the Live direction -- so we may see more developers. I suggest that we collect all feature requests and future directions into one

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: I suggest that we collect all feature requests and future directions into one document.  (Well, as many as we can) Wouldn't it be better to start with definition of the vision of the project? Alexandre

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/01/2009 12:56 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: Hi Guys, There has been a lot of talk about new features, new directions, etc., etc. In addition, Patrick is doing a good job of drumming up support for the Live direction -- so we may see more developers. I suggest that we collect

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: Wouldn't it be better to start with definition of the vision of the project? Who's vision? -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: Wouldn't it be better to start with definition of the vision of the project? Who's vision? The team's of course :) Alexandre -- Let Crystal Reports

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread m.wolkst...@gmx.de
Am Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:16:48 +1000 schrieb Patrick Shirkey pshir...@boosthardware.com: On 09/01/2009 12:56 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: Hi Guys, There has been a lot of talk about new features, new directions, etc., etc. In addition, Patrick is doing a good job of drumming up

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Sebastian Moors
Sebastian Moors schrieb: Hi! m.wolkst...@gmx.de schrieb: hi patrick, as i say, i like your idea. but with the current interface and backend this functions are impossible to realise. what you need is something like a hydrogen player. this is something like one instance witch can load

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread m.wolkst...@gmx.de
Am Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:31:45 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Moors mau...@smoors.de: Hi! m.wolkst...@gmx.de schrieb: hi patrick, as i say, i like your idea. but with the current interface and backend this functions are impossible to realise. what you need is something like a hydrogen

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: Hi Guys, There has been a lot of talk about new features, new directions, etc., etc.  In addition, Patrick is doing a good job of drumming up support for the Live direction -- so we may see more developers. I suggest that we

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/01/2009 05:49 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, m.wolkst...@gmx.de wrote: And it would be not easy to control several instances of hydrogen via midi. Each one needs it own configuration file and a utility which writes those files. I think it could be done,

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/01/2009 03:12 AM, Sebastian Moors wrote: Patrick Shirkey wrote: - Multiple song playback at one time - has anyone tried this yet with the playlist code? That won't work at the moment, and i believe that it will be hard (hard means we have to touch a lot of code) to

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote: I don't understand this. Why would it be useful to have two different songs playing at the same time? This would provide ultimate flexibility and is in keeping with the work flow that AL users expect. And the work flow that AL users expect

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/01/2009 08:45 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote: I don't understand this. Why would it be useful to have two different songs playing at the same time? This would provide ultimate flexibility and is in keeping with the work

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote: Sorry for not being clear enough. It's hard to express these abstract thoughts sometimes. Thanks! I think I understand what you mean a lot better, now. Exactly. The sample button is the item in the grid on the sampler interface. ie the red

Re: [Hydrogen-devel] The Future: Specification and Roadmap

2009-08-31 Thread Patrick Shirkey
On 09/01/2009 09:34 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote: Sorry for not being clear enough. It's hard to express these abstract thoughts sometimes. Thanks! I think I understand what you mean a lot better, now. Exactly. The sample