Re: REXX Problem

2006-01-18 Thread Rob Scott
Gil, The trouble with omitting the address statement is that you are ASSUMING that no statement in the previous logic has changed the environment during execution (not compilation). If the REXX exec is of a reasonable size and more than one person could be changing the code - this is a BIG

[Rexx on z/Os]Point to particular member of PDS

2006-01-18 Thread Marco Gianfranco Indaco
Hi to all. Does somebody know how to read a particular member of PDS using MVS address or Storage function only? I mean: I've a Rexx program compiled with STUB MULTI that at the moment run in background mode and in its jcl has within some member of the same partitioned dataset that, for the

Re: REXX Problem

2006-01-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Putting the address (env) in front of each call will prevent situations such as these - and yes it adds an extra few characters to each line - but so do comments Well, we'll agree to disagree. As for comments: Real programmers don't do comments. If it was hard to write, it should be hard to

Re: REXX Problem

2006-01-18 Thread Rob Scott
In the heady days of pre-Y2K, I spent a few years as a freelance sysprog. At one site - this involved going through hundreds of in-house assembler programs - finding the source, bringing them under Endevor control and making sure that they were ready for Y2K. I think it was during this time that

Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Johnny Luo
Hi, As a beginner,it's interesting to find that there is also a 'unix' on Z/os.However,I know nothing about it.Before doing some research,I would like to raise two simple questions about ' What can USS do'. 1,The only way at this time I know to access USS is issuing 'OMVS' in a TSO session.Is

Re: SSP in PL/I or Fortran

2006-01-18 Thread Jim Marshall
Someone asked in comp.lang.asm370 about SSP, the Scientific Subroutine Package that used to exist in both PL/I and Fortran. As well as I remember, it was release as source and freely available. Does it still exist? -- glen I have the manual for the FORTRAN SSP and it might be 2 volumes. It

Re: SSP in PL/I or Fortran

2006-01-18 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Marshall Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 7:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SSP in PL/I or Fortran Someone asked in comp.lang.asm370 about SSP, the Scientific

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Johnny Luo said: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 21:15:47 +0800 As a beginner,it's interesting to find that there is also a 'unix' on Z/os.However,I know nothing about it.Before doing some research,I would like to raise two simple questions about ' What can USS do'.

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Pohlen Mailinglist
Johnny, there is port name called otelnet in file /etc/services which points to the port of the uss telnet. Of course either the otelnetd daemon or the configured inetd must be running. The port of otelnet must be different from the normal telnet port for tso. You must also have defined an omvs

Re: How SMFDUMP works?

2006-01-18 Thread Knutson, Sam
I record Type 99 write them out during daily dump to a separate GDG and retain them for 5 days. If you have a problem with WLM it is easier to have the 99's than not. If I have this type of problem I expect to know about it soon enough to preserve the data. I equate them to data from a flight

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Johnny Luo
Thanks a lot for your kind help.Tomorrow I'll take a look at USS configuration .After that,I'll give the feedback. Perhaps another question,is there a command in OMVS to see whether or not 'the otelnetd daemon or the configured inetd' is running?Because at the beginning stage I just want to use

Re: How SMFDUMP works?

2006-01-18 Thread Knutson, Sam
If you have SAS MXG there is ANALSMF with MXG which provides a very useful analysis of SMF data contents and SMF data set buffer utilization. http://www.sas.com/ http://www.mxg.com/ THIS PROGRAM ANALYZES YOUR SMF DATA TO REPORT THE OPTIMUM VSAM CISIZE TO MINIMIZE THE SIZE OF YOUR VSAM

Re: SSP in PL/I or Fortran

2006-01-18 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SSP in PL/I or Fortran In a message dated 1/18/2006 7:55:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Pohlen Mailinglist
just as every unix, go into omvs and enter ps -ef ! grep xxx. Pay attention, the sign behind the ps -ef is an exclamation mark. - Original Message - From: Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:26 PM

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Johnny Luo said: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:26:39 +0800 Perhaps another question,is there a command in OMVS to see whether or not 'the otelnetd daemon or the configured inetd' is running?Because at With JES2, I'd use SDSF's DA option. Does JES3 have an equivalent?

ADR793E - VTOC and VVDS do not match?

2006-01-18 Thread Kittendorf, Craig
Hi all, I received the following message when trying to dump a PDSE: ADR793E (ttt)-m(yy), DATA SET dsname ON VOLUME volume_serial_number IS AN INCONSISTENT PDSE AND CANNOT BE COPIED | DUMPED | RESTORED Explanation: The data set's PDSE indicators in the VTOC and VVDS do not match.

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Pohlen Mailinglist said: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:50:47 +0100 just as every unix, go into omvs and enter ps -ef ! grep xxx. Pay attention, My experience is that the options for ps are not the same for every unix. Is ps standardized by POSIX? the sign behind the

Re: SSP in PL/I or Fortran

2006-01-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I thought the copyright was only good for seventeen years? I think it depends on the country. As a member of the Copyright Convention, you are protected in other countries as well as you protect in your country. IIRC, patent protection is 17 years. Copyright is for life +25 years. -teD Me? A

Re: How SMFDUMP works?

2006-01-18 Thread Walt Farrell
On 1/17/2006 2:38 AM, Víctor de la Fuente wrote: Our problem is also SMF starts losing data before all files are full: IEE979W SMF DATA LOST - NO BUFFER SPACE AVAILABLE TIME=08:19:30 ... D SMF IEE974I 08.20.04 SMF DATA SETS 177 NAMEVOLSER SIZE(BLKS) %FULL STATUS

Re: [Rexx on z/Os]Point to particular member of PDS

2006-01-18 Thread Charles Mills
I'm not certain I understand. You would like to read a member of a PDS from a batch Rexx program without - Pre-allocating the member in JCL; or - Doing dynamic allocation from within the Rexx. Is that right? I assume you might like to allocate the ENTIRE PDS with JCL (like the SYSLIB DD in a

Re: Does DDNAME=? override SUBSYS=?

2006-01-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I agree, BLSR is a useful critter. I am, in fact, pretty familiar with it, having introduced its use into production jobs in my group to help performance. As to why I need to remove it, there may be a storage overlay issue in my massively multitasking assembler application code, OR there may be

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Pohlen Mailinglist
in omvs you use the exclamation mark instead of the pipe symbol. I know that this is a difference to normal unix systems, therefore I have mentioned it. - Original Message - From: Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Pohlen Mailinglist
I don't know if ps is standardized by posix, but the command I have told you works for omvs - Original Message - From: Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Two silly

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Nix, Robert P.
That might be true on your system, but on mine, the vertical bar works just fine. For a simple test, I tried ls ! more, and got FSUM6785 File or directory ! is not found If you use !, I think that it's local to your box. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation RO-OC-1-13 200

Re: SSP in PL/I or Fortran

2006-01-18 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 1/18/2006 9:17:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it depends on the country. As a member of the Copyright Convention, you are protected in other countries as well as you protect in your country. IIRC, patent protection is 17 years.

Re: Intertest

2006-01-18 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
It's been a long time since I played with Intertest, so I wouldn't be of much help without RTFM. I would suggest cross-posting this request to CICS-L. Brian Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 01/18/2006 02:57 AM Please respond to IBM

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 1/18/2006 9:41:02 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you use !, I think that it's local to your box. Or emulator code page? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Tom Puddicombe
There's no comparable product to SDSF available for JES3 from IBM. There is a product named EJES that seems to provide most all the SDSF functionality for JES3 that I need - and there're EJES functions I haven't had the need to use. I think Ed Jaffe might be a good person to ask for detailed

BlackBerry TimeStamps

2006-01-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
In a message dated 1/18/2006 9:17:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes It looks like RIM fixed their server bug. Now the times on my messages won't confuse people. -teD Me? A skeptic? I trust you have proof!

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4)
in omvs you use the exclamation mark instead of the pipe symbol. I know that this is a difference to normal unix systems, therefore I have mentioned it. You are being fooled by the code page problem. The pipe symbol IS the usual pipe symbol but this just happens to map to the explamation point

Re: z/OS on the ISERIES

2006-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In !!AAAYAJ/6KggGInlFs/[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/16/2006 at 12:55 PM, Ray Mullins [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Actually, I'll throw a little nit out there. There is one feature of z/Arch that is EBCDIC specific - and that is the decimal instruction set, with emphasis on UNPK, ED and

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4)
There is a product named EJES that seems to provide most all the SDSF functionality for JES3 ...and I gladly learnt that some kind soul was thinking of us poor g guys that have to move from JES2/SDSF to JES3/EJES: Most of the SDSF commands are implemented in EJES as synonyms to the native

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Jon Brock
Heh. Pohlen Mailinglist. I like that. Jon -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pohlen Mailinglist Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS . . .

SMTP security

2006-01-18 Thread Ian
Hi list, I know that SMTP provides an exit to validate the jobs and STC's that can send mail via the SPOOL interface. Is there a way to do the same for the TCPIP interface to SMTP? In other words I want to use the TCPIP interface from CICS but only CICSA and CICSB can send mail to SMTP1 and

Re: How SMFDUMP works?

2006-01-18 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Walt Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On 1/17/2006 2:38 AM, Víctor de la Fuente wrote: Our problem is also SMF starts losing data before all files are full: IEE979W SMF DATA LOST - NO BUFFER SPACE AVAILABLE TIME=08:19:30 ... D SMF IEE974I 08.20.04

Re: [Rexx on z/Os]Point to particular member of PDS

2006-01-18 Thread Marco Gianfranco Indaco
??? Hi Mr Charles, thanks for you reply and apologize my bad english. ** you wrote: - Pre-allocating the member in JCL; or - Doing dynamic allocation from within the Rexx. Yes, I want to specify in my jcl the name of partitioned without membername having so a dynamic selection of its

Re: IPCS question

2006-01-18 Thread Robert Wright
Barbara Nitz wrote on 01/18/2006 01:20:07 AM: snip it will always tell you the storage key, even for summary dump data (that AFAIR SDUMP doesn't collect storage keys for). While the provision remains for SADMP and SDUMP to indicate I don't know the storage key in dump records, storage keys

Re: [Rexx on z/Os]Point to particular member of PDS

2006-01-18 Thread Marco Gianfranco Indaco
Excuse me but I've some problem with gmail Hi Mr Charles, thanks for you reply and apologize my bad english. you wrote: - Pre-allocating the member in JCL; or - Doing dynamic allocation from within the Rexx. Yes, I want to specify in my jcl the name of partitioned without membername having

Re: REXX Problem

2006-01-18 Thread Stephen M. Wiegand
At 03:58 PM 01/17/2006, you wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/16/2006 at 05:20 PM, Stephen M. Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: OK I admit I'm old and my brain sometimes goes out to lunch. Today is one of those times. I have this error in a REXX macro that I use in TSO that I just can't

Re: ADR793E - VTOC and VVDS do not match?

2006-01-18 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Craig, take a look at IDCAMS DIAGNOSE and its options. That should give you some more information. Perhaps something like this, changed to your site's needs: //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //PRD88A DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=PRD88A,DISP=SHR, //

Re: How SMFDUMP works?

2006-01-18 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Victor, Best answer is get to z/OS R6 where the SMF buffering just works better and is easily expanded. Since you said you were currently on R4 though you can do this with a USERMOD. As Walt suggested get yourself some more buffers. Paul Gillis kindly shared his on the MXG-L list a while

Re: IF statements in JCL

2006-01-18 Thread Howard Brazee
There used to be a nice article at http://www.objectz.com/cobolreport/archives/TCR_jcl.htm which talked about the AVGREC parameter and IF-THEN-ELSE-ENDIF Condition Code processing. I printed a copy of it, but it appears to be gone. Googling, I found

Re: [Rexx on z/Os]Point to particular member of PDS

2006-01-18 Thread Brendan Friel
One thing you can do which is incredibly easy is to set an OUTTRAP. Then do a LISTDS to get the members of the PDS into a stem variable. Then you can step through the stem variable and process one PDS member at a time. HTH, Brendan

Re: How SMFDUMP works?

2006-01-18 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
Also be sure to exclude type 69 records. See APAR OW45020 or the SMF manual for details. Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Hewson Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 12:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: BlackBerry TimeStamps

2006-01-18 Thread Brian Peterson
I think it's still wrong Brian On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/18/2006 9:17:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes It looks like RIM fixed their server bug. Now the times on my messages won't confuse people. -teD

Re: [Rexx on z/Os]Point to particular member of PDS

2006-01-18 Thread Marco Gianfranco Indaco
Hi Brendan, thanks for your reply but: neither LISTDS or OUTTRAP are internal function of Rexx(or MVS). LISTDS is a tso command OUTTRAP is an external function that run only in the TSO/E address space. So I can't use them running out of TSO. Appreciate your idea but.. I can't. Regards

Decoding IEANUC01 modules

2006-01-18 Thread Jay Maynard
I'm trying to find and zap a constant in IEANUC01(IEAANIP0) on OS/360. To do so, I need to understand how scatter format modules are laid out on disk. Anyone know where I can find out how that's structured? I'm trying to avoid reassembling and relinking the entire MVT nucleus. -- Jay Maynard,

Re: [Rexx on z/Os]Point to particular member of PDS

2006-01-18 Thread Charles Mills
Is an assembler helper an acceptable option? I suspect many people have written Rexx-helpers for PDSes in assembler and some might be willing to share it with you. Such subroutines would normally be pure MVS and independent of TSO. I've written one but it is too complex - has too much specialized

Re: How SMFDUMP works?

2006-01-18 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Don, We currently exclude type 69 but I browsed the APARs to see if there was anything new and surprise... COMMENTS: The MVS Allocation and SMF components have agreed to accept this situation as a SUGgestion to be implemented through future development. The solution to this

Re: [Rexx on z/Os]Point to particular member of PDS

2006-01-18 Thread jim harrison
If you specify the dataset name in your JCL and you know the DDNAME, you can use the LM (Library Access) functions of ISPF to dynamically retrieve member names The sequence would be something like LMINIT, LMOPEN, LMFIND or LMMLIST and LMFREE Marco Gianfranco Indaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in

Re: SSP in PL/I or Fortran

2006-01-18 Thread George J Shedlock
Some info for your consideration: 1. I think I have found a copy of the Fortran version of this tape. 2. The tape is from the old Contributed Program Library 3. The date in the data on the tape is 1-16-73. 4. I *think* that I also have at least one of the manuals that goes with the tape, but

Re: DFSMS message help

2006-01-18 Thread Mark Thomen
Mike Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... We are unable to locate the following message, any help would really be appreciated. DGTLM003 RTC=30 RSN=62 MOD=F8 This appears to be a return code from Catalog. Please look up RC30 RSN62 under message IDC3009I. I'll

Re: ADR793E - VTOC and VVDS do not match?

2006-01-18 Thread Matthew Stitt
I believe he has managed to place a non-SMS dataset on an SMS managed volume. I wonder if the ADRDSSU CONVERTV command would fix him up. Since it is a SMP/E SMPLTS file, he would be safe in deleting it and allocate a new one. On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:19:27 -0800, Ulrich Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Rexx on z/Os]Point to particular member of PDS

2006-01-18 Thread Marco Gianfranco Indaco
Hi Mr Charles, many thanks again. I suppose that something near the assembler is de facto the only way to do this. If your tool is too complex is, for me, enough a good advice that will direct me on the right way. My actual idea, that can be wrong, is to reach two target: 1) find a way to list

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Pohlen Mailinglist said: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:34:06 +0100 in omvs you use the exclamation mark instead of the pipe symbol. I know that this is a difference to normal unix systems, therefore I have mentioned it. Ahem. I tried before I posted: [EMAIL

Re: [Rexx on z/Os]Point to particular member of PDS

2006-01-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, jim harrison said: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:16:19 -0500 If you specify the dataset name in your JCL and you know the DDNAME, you can use the LM (Library Access) functions of ISPF to dynamically retrieve member names The sequence would be something like LMINIT,

Re: Billing for SRB Time

2006-01-18 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:08:06 EST, Clark Kidd wrote: For many years the MVS operating systems (OS/390 and now z/OS) have maintained separate reporting structures for processor time consumed in task mode (TCB time) versus processor time consumed while running under an authorized subtask (SRB time).

Re: Billing for SRB Time

2006-01-18 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 2:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Billing for SRB Time snip a) SRB CPU time can vary from run to run too much, based on

Re: REXX Problem

2006-01-18 Thread Rob Scott
Ed Jaffe wrote : Just out of curiosity, is there a performance impact either way? I was told that there was no difference when I attended my REXX for Dummies course way back when we still used 3420s.. Rob Scott Rocket Software http://www.rs.com/portfolio/mxi/

Re: Does DDNAME?? override SUBSYS??

2006-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/17/2006 at 06:07 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Environment is z/OS 1.6. The Fine Manual specifically says that SUBSYS=? Overrides DDNAME=?, but makes no mention of whether DDNAME=? overrides SUBSYS=?. Also no mention for DSN=?. DDNAME=x

Re: IKJ56876I

2006-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/17/2006 at 09:44 PM, David Alcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You really need a S99RBX any time SMS might be involved in DYNALLOC because of the additonal error fields there with extended information on the problem. Are you saying that the messages produced by an SVC99

Re: REXX Problem

2006-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/17/2006 at 05:27 PM, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Maybe not - but I think it is good practice We'll have to agree to disagree; it is both inefficient and confusing. Maybe not - but I think it is good practice - it protects you from problems if you happen to

Re: Interview with Fredrick Brooks

2006-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/17/2006 at 09:03 PM, Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Thank you, nice thing I really didn't know it was in System/360 when 8bit were first used for byte And, in fact, it wasn't. Older I/O gear used 8-bit bytes. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg

Re: REXX Problem

2006-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/17/2006 at 09:54 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Subroutine linkage within a procedure? I'm confused. In REXX there is a disconnect between internal routines and external routines, even though the invocation syntax is the same. Even though much of REXX

Re: REXX Problem

2006-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/18/2006 at 04:03 AM, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: and yes it adds an extra few characters to each line - but so do comments Extraneous comments are also bad. The rule of comments is to make the program easier to understand and to modify, not just to take

Re: REXX Problem

2006-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/18/2006 at 08:47 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4) [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I seems to me you want to replace the -strings in the JCL, so the shall not denote a variable dereference. No being a fluent edit macro writer I suggest you try to set the scan mode off before

Re: SSP in PL/I or Fortran

2006-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/18/2006 at 07:08 AM, Jim Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have the manual for the FORTRAN SSP and it might be 2 volumes. It contains all the routines along with the printed source code for each routine. I do not remember seeing any PL/I in their although it is

Re: REXX Problem

2006-01-18 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Rob Scott wrote: Putting the address (env) in front of each call will prevent situations such as these - and yes it adds an extra few characters to each line - but so do comments Just out of curiosity, is there a performance impact either way? --

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Gabriel Tully
On 1/18/06, Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps another question,is there a command in OMVS to see whether or not 'the otelnetd daemon or the configured inetd' is running?Because at the beginning stage I just want to use it.If it's alredy running,I can save a lot time Assuming INET

Re: Billing for SRB Time

2006-01-18 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
McKown, John wrote: I sincerely doubt that an SRB can be dispatched on a zAAP. From what little I know of them, they are for JAVA code only. SRBs often execute supervisor instructions. I cannot prove it, but I don't think that zAAPs can execute supervisor code. I know that it is documented that

Re: SSP in PL/I or Fortran

2006-01-18 Thread Jay Maynard
On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 01:35:26PM -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Aren't both the FORTRAN and the PL/I SSP included in OS/360? Are they on the turnkey CD? Not that I'm aware of. OTOH, hopefully, we can correct that for Turnkey 4. -- Jay Maynard, K5ZC

Re: REXX Problem

2006-01-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I don't see how cluttering yp the code makes it easier on the eye, and the practice actually makes the code harder to maintain. I agree. Especially if you are indenting and have to start continuing TSO/ISPF/ISREDIT commands. I find these difficult to read. I have a couple of EDIT macros that

Re: [Rexx on z/Os]Point to particular member of PDS

2006-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/18/2006 at 10:27 AM, Marco Gianfranco Indaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does somebody know how to read a particular member of PDS using MVS address or Storage function only? No. I used swareq sequence in different program to retrieve allocated dataset No; you can

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/18/2006 at 09:15 PM, Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As a beginner,it's interesting to find that there is also a 'unix' on Z/os.However,I know nothing about it.Before doing some research,I would like to raise two simple questions about ' What can USS do'. ITYM

Re: SSP in PL/I or Fortran

2006-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/18/2006 at 08:44 AM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hum, good question. I don't know. I think that I'm a bit sensitive about copyright due to the fact that I'm a Linux user at home and many commercial software vendors (and others) raise such a hew and cry

Re: What SMP steps are needed

2006-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/17/2006 at 05:05 PM, Ale Eba [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 1. REVEIVEd with HOLDDATA (downloaded from Enhnaced HOLDDATA). RECEIVE (sic) HOLDDATA early and often. If it's been a while, download and RECEIVE a fresh set before doing another APPLY. 2. Apply check

Re: Two silly questions about USS or OMVS on Z/OS

2006-01-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/18/2006 at 03:50 PM, Pohlen Mailinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: just as every unix, go into omvs and enter ps -ef ! grep xxx. Every Unix uses the vertical bar (ASCII 7C) as a pipe symbol, not the bang (ASCII 21). Pay attention, the sign behind the ps -ef is an

Re: Does DDNAME=? override SUBSYS=?

2006-01-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Tested and proven correct. Thank you. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 3:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Does DDNAME=? override SUBSYS=? In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/17/2006 at 06:07 PM,

Re: TN3270 Question

2006-01-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 16:16:40 +0100, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Once you do find the SysRq key, you can enter logoff without the quotation marks* and VTAM, performing its SSCP role, will terminate the session between the application and the TELNET logical unit (LU) managed by the

Re: What starts Netview?

2006-01-18 Thread Chris Mason
Pat, Thanks for clearing this up. I'm afraid this was a failure of newsgroup technique. I initially thought I had nothing to contribute here and I had deleted all posts in my mailchecker. Then I reviewed the thread in Google groups and spotted the possible BNJ confusion. Not having a suitable -

Clear key encryption

2006-01-18 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello all. I was wondering if anyone could explain to me what Clear Key Encryption VS None clear Encryption is. I looked in the archives, but only found a reference that clear key could run on the T-REX. I thought that clear key encryption was purely SSL and the other was DES/3DES where the 3des

Re: Does DDNAME?? override SUBSYS??

2006-01-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:06:03 -0500 DDNAME=x overrides everything not consistent with the target DD statement. Also, overriding is symmetric. And, if you believe that, you'd be astonished (but I know such things rarely astonish

Re: REXX Problem

2006-01-18 Thread Rob Scott
Seymour wrote : it is both inefficient and confusing. Please can you point me to some documentation that says that this is inefficient? How is it confusing to have a way of knowing exactly where you command buffer is going? A usage note on using address (env) on every call is that on return

Re: What starts Netview?

2006-01-18 Thread Chris Mason
I'm obliged to do some fancy copy and paste here. Is there a technique for replying to a non-e-mail post with an e-mail? Bruce, snip I'm concerned about side effects. Does anyone know of any other products, IBM or otherwise, that rely on BNJMTERM even if NetView is not used? end snip By virtue

Re: How SMFDUMP works?

2006-01-18 Thread Víctor de la Fuente
Hi! I readed quickly all your answers!Thanks to all! My problem with the CLOSE PENDING is the file is not going DUMP REQUIRED forever...until it wants! I mean we don't know when it is going to change its status. Sometimes we waited for 20 minutes or more! So we need to know why it's not

Re: Billing for SRB Time

2006-01-18 Thread Craddock, Chris
Aren't enclaves doing work on behalf of a user, but using a new type of preemptible SRB rather than a TCB? Disclaimer: I know very little about the internals of z/OS, but remember reading this when I was trying to figure out what an enclave is. No. In this context, an enclave is a way of

Re: Clear key encryption

2006-01-18 Thread Víctor de la Fuente
What do you mean with None clear encryption? Are you talking about ICSF? 2006/1/18, Ward, Mike S [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello all. I was wondering if anyone could explain to me what Clear Key Encryption VS None clear Encryption is. I looked in the archives, but only found a reference that clear

Re: REXX Problem

2006-01-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Rob Scott said: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:02:36 -0500 Please can you point me to some documentation that says that this is inefficient? How is it confusing to have a way of knowing exactly where you command buffer is going? A few questions, by analogy: In

Re: Clear key encryption

2006-01-18 Thread Hal Merritt
You are touching on the real issue of encryption: key management. Some suggest that encryption keys are more sensitive and valuable than the data they protect. And a lot harder to manage. AFAIK, 'clear key encryption' means that secret encryption keys flow over networks 'in the clear'. This can

z/OS IPL Consoles

2006-01-18 Thread Laine, Rogers
We are currently running z/OS 1.4 with two LPARS that are using 3174-1L 3274-1L controllers that have 3270 terminals attached for IPL'ing our two systems. What can we do to upgrade this old hardware to something a little more current? We also will be moving to 1.7 within the next 6-8 months. Can

Re: TN3270 Question

2006-01-18 Thread Chris Mason
Pat, A VTAM application, in effect, has access to the SSCP-LU session by means of the TERMSESS macro. Here's some text from the CS SNA Programming manual: The TERMSESS macroinstruction terminates sessions in which the application program acts as the SLU. The RPL OPTCD operand specifies the type

Re: REXX Problem

2006-01-18 Thread Rob Scott
TSO PREFIX, JCL MSGCLASS and ASM equated symbols+lengths All of the items you allude to here are constants 99.9% of the time (OK you can change your prefix in TSO/REXX - but it is not often done) The address environment can be changed by logic paths in executable code at run-time. I think

Re: z/OS on the ISERIES

2006-01-18 Thread Ray Mullins
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Tuesday January 17 2006 13:06 In !!AAAYAJ/6KggGInlFs/2GBOkJFIDCgAAAEPNVYp [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/16/2006 at 12:55 PM, Ray

Re: Billing for SRB Time

2006-01-18 Thread Craddock, Chris
| Depends on what you mean by a real difference. z/OS uses at least one instruction which is not implemented on an IFL as it is on a GP processor. That's why you will get a check stop condition if you IPL z/OS in an LPAR which is defined as using an IFL. But I will

Re: z/OS IPL Consoles

2006-01-18 Thread Kittendorf, Craig
You didn't mention your processor. But offhand I can think of: 1) Integrated Console Controller (ICC) with OSA Express 2) IBM 2074 3) Visara SCON and ICON products Number 1 can replace 2 and 3 if you have the hardware. I'm not sure if a Cisco router with CIPs and running TN3270 server will

FYI: S0C4 at CLOSE SVC [was:RE: Does DDNAME=? override SUBSYS=?]

2006-01-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Solution to S0C4 at CLOSE SVC found: Always code STRNO=(# I/O subtasks)+1 in your JCL and you'll avoid the problem. Dynamically acquired strings (default is STRNO=2) get freed at subtask termination, leading to S0C4 at CLOSE. Thanks to all for help on SUBSYS override. Peter -Original

Re: Clear key encryption

2006-01-18 Thread Walt Farrell
On 1/18/2006 3:48 PM, Ward, Mike S wrote: Hello all. I was wondering if anyone could explain to me what Clear Key Encryption VS None clear Encryption is. I looked in the archives, but only found a reference that clear key could run on the T-REX. I thought that clear key encryption was purely SSL

Re: How SMFDUMP works?

2006-01-18 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
Are you using any SMF exits such as IEFU29? Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Víctor de la Fuente Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 4:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How SMFDUMP works? Hi! I readed

Re: What starts Netview?

2006-01-18 Thread Eric Chevalier
On 18 Jan 2006 13:34:13 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Mason) wrote: I'm obliged to do some fancy copy and paste here. Is there a technique for replying to a non-e-mail post with an e-mail? That may depend on your news reader. I'm using Forte Agent; *all* of my posts are e-mail responses to the

Re: SMTP security

2006-01-18 Thread Mark T. Regan, K8MTR
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