Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:00:19 -0800 Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: :I'm writing a fairly large MVS batch application in C++. At several points :it is necessary to call library type routines that I am writing in :assembler. Several of the routines (unfortunately) need to use QSAM macros :and

Re: PDS vs. PDSE

2010-02-22 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote in message news:listserv%201002220047263437.0...@bama.ua.edu... Well, I can add another problem to the list: since 2 days we have a ghost connection to a PDSE directory. We can't delete the PDSE because someone has a connection to the directory, but we have

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-02-22 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:16:18 -0600, Eric Bielefeld wrote: ... Also, what about z/OS's running of Unix. Isn't that kind of like running another operating system underneath it? No. z/OS doesn't run Unix underneath it. Rather, the Unix API's are incorporated in z/OS. -- Tom Marchant

Abysmal PDSE performance

2010-02-22 Thread Barbara Nitz
After brooding quite a while over SMF records and (today) a dump, here is what I have to say about PDSE 'performance': I have 26 large PDSE datasets (for Fault Analyzer side files) on 10 mod9 volumes, a few of the datasets more than 10 tracks allocation. Non-SMS managed. Last week I used

Re: zAAp on zIIP Question

2010-02-22 Thread Kelman, Tom
One thing to be aware of is that once you turn on zAAP on zIIP you no longer get the zAAP information in the SMF records (i.e. zAAP elligible, etc.). It is now all considered zIIP work and shows up in those buckets. Tom Kelman Enterprise Capacity Planner Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816)

WLM managed Initiators

2010-02-22 Thread Wim
I am reading about the WLM Managed Initiator possibility. As fas as I understand, the option is designed to use it in a Sysplex environment with mutiple systems. Are there any advantages and/or disadvantages when activating it in a Monoplex environment (so only on a single system) or is it of

Re: Consolidate Storage Groups

2010-02-22 Thread John Kington
Rebecca, snip One question I haven't found the answer to: Is there anything special I have to worry about with the DB2 storage groups and/or classes. I know DB2 has a thing where it defines one or the other (not sure which) but is there any connection between the DB2 definition/setting and the

Re: WLM managed Initiators

2010-02-22 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Having WLM manage the initiators will prevent new jobs from entering the system when the system is at 100%. This is good from a performance viewpoint. Users tend not to understand that and want to know why their job isn't running. Also if you are currently using Jes2 Priority, be prepared for

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Charles Mills
You can anchor in name/token. Considering just functions that require a 24-bit work area and do not need to preserve state across calls, is name/token create and retrieve going to be significantly better performing than FREEMAIN and GETMAIN? (A serious question -- I don't know the answer.)

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Charles Mills
You're right, I think it is safe to assume I am the first and only program **on the TCB**. I kind of ran first on the TCB together with first in the region (and yes, I do know the difference). As I said, I am very familiar with using QSAM in AMODE=31. I know that DCBEs can go above the line. But

Re: WLM managed Initiators

2010-02-22 Thread Staller, Allan
Works just fine in a MONOPLEX. I am doing it now. Additional initiators are started/stopped based on the mix of work currently in the system. If you have some mix of JES and WLM managed inits, this can be used (as one example) to limit test/dev work when production is heavy. Pay close attention

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:14:16 -0800 Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: : You can anchor in name/token. :Considering just functions that require a 24-bit work area and do not need :to preserve state across calls, is name/token create and retrieve going to :be significantly better performing

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Sam Siegel
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: You're right, I think it is safe to assume I am the first and only program **on the TCB**. I kind of ran first on the TCB together with first in the region (and yes, I do know the difference). As I said, I am very

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer (warning: Conley rant)

2010-02-22 Thread Barkow, Eileen
It is not easy learning java and the other languages (especially C), but the fact of the matter is that all the components needed to become a 'senior java developer' can be self-taught and executed. Java is free as are hundreds of tutorials and self-study courses and most of the software

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer

2010-02-22 Thread George Henke
Don't despair, Tom, this is purely a question of supply and demand and has nothing at all to do with skill. z/OS is becoming anything less than more complex as you well know yourself having installed and worked with it s much. And with Parallel Sysplex and GDPS, the risk has grown

catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread larry macioce
At first this sounds easy but let me explain: I am working on putting up a COD..not the fish as we are coming from an unsupported z/os . I'd like to use my current IODF (or even the previous one) but herein lies the problem. I DON'T want to let the COD touch my catalog as it is interwined with my

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer

2010-02-22 Thread David Andrews
On Sat, 2010-02-20 at 10:45 -0500, Gabriel Tully wrote: I agree that System z administration is getting easier and I think that is a good thing. Until something breaks. We dumb-down the workaday environment, lower the expectations of management for the technical people, while the ones with

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Charles Mills
The DCB keeps state. I know that very well, but that wasn't the question. The question was is name/token create/retrieve better performing than GETMAIN/FREEMAIN (or STORAGE OBTAIN/RELEASE)? There are lots of situations where a function might need QSAM in 24-bit storage but not need to save

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-02-22 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/22/2010 7:16:52 A.M. Central Standard Time, m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com writes: No. z/OS doesn't run Unix underneath it. Rather, the Unix API's are incorporated in z/OS. It may be in some old SHARE presentations, but Multi-system's Test used to run VM under MVS and

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread Hal Merritt
Yes. Just put it on the RES volume and craft your load parameters accordingly. There is no mention of catalog requirements in the GA22-7525-12 HCD planning guide. The planning guide has a discussion on how the IPL parms, PARMLIB, and the IODF are located during IPL. Another way is to

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Kirk Wolf
Charles, We have been doing C++/assembler mixed development for some time (JZOS, Co:Z), and here are some lessons that we learned: 1) 24-bit storage is a pain (there's not even a malloc24 in the C library that works if you are in AMODE31.) We normally allocate a pointer to 24-bit storage in an

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread Pat Mihalec
You need to do an export of the system it is on and import it to the catalog that you want it to be in. Here is sample JCL: //IODF16DD DSN=SMULLER.IODF16,UNIT=SYSALLDA, // SPACE=(TRK,(14,1)),DISP=(,CATLG) //IODF DD DSN=SYS1.IODF16.CLUSTER,DISP=SHR //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSIN

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 8:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++ I'm writing a fairly large MVS batch

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer

2010-02-22 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 Feb 2010 05:28:15 -0800, jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote: Indeed. I wonder what the comparison would be between a senior Java developer and a senior COBOL programmer. There's a perception here that Java developers are cheaper than COBOL programmers. It all depends on how we define

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer (warning: Conley rant)

2010-02-22 Thread George Henke
Don't despair, Tom et al, this is purely a question of perception, supply and demand, and has absolutely nothing at all to do with skill. As you, Tom, well know, being one of the best, and have pointed out, z/OS, requires more skill then ever. Having installed z/OS, z/VM, and VSE dozens of

Re: Terse for the PC

2010-02-22 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 11:36:14 -0500, Frank Chu frank_...@colesoft.com wrote: Hello All, Are there any versions available for the PC (preferably Windoze based)? Google brought this http://old.nabble.com/terse-for-PCs-%28Windows,-AIX,-Linux-%29- td19530768.html up. Maybe worth a try?

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-02-22 Thread George Henke
It may be in some old SHARE presentations, but Multi-system's Test used to run VM under MVS and more MVS's under VM according to Peter B. Yes, I believe it was some how connected to Preferred Machine Assist (PMA) where page 0 was actually owned by MVS not VM. This was to facilitate performance

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread larry macioce
Thanks to all who replied I have reread my instruction and I can ipl using an already defined iodf, but I'll have to put in the volser of the old system where the iodf resides. I am really creeped out about letting the CoD catalog and my old master cat talk to each other, that is the reason for

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread John Kelly
snip So what i want to do is copy the IODF and place it on the COD res pack WITHOUT bringing up the COD(as it wouldn't work anyway) /snip Since the IODF is VSAM you'll need it catalogued. I find that the Alias HLQ to the COD catalog is the easiest way, just like you do with ServPac,etc. Then

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Charles Mills
IDENTIFY is an interesting idea. I would suspect lower overhead than name/token. But can you IDENTIFY an address in GETMAIN storage? Doesn't it have to be inside a real load module? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 10:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++ IDENTIFY is an interesting idea. I

Re: Consolidate Storage Groups

2010-02-22 Thread Rebecca Martin
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:10:00 -0500, John Kington john.king...@convergys.com wrote: snip... IDCAMS alter command can be used to change the storage class. You can use dcollect and scan the output looking for storage classes you want to change. No need to move/reallocate a dataset. snip I

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 08:10:55 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: IDENTIFY is an interesting idea. I would suspect lower overhead than name/token. But can you IDENTIFY an address in GETMAIN storage? Doesn't it have to be inside a real load module? Only if you're not authorized. (No good reason.) Or,

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Don Poitras
I think we're getting a lot of suggestions as if this were some system service. Name/token, CDE lookups and such are fine if you need to bootstrap yourself from some unknown state. The description of this program is just batch. Save the address in an external variable. LE provides macros to

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-02-22 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. gahe...@gmail.com (George Henke) writes: This was to facilitate performance for VM/MVS shops because there was no comparable VM/VSE feature for MVS and VM to

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Edward Jaffe
Charles Mills wrote: I know that very well, but that wasn't the question. The question was is name/token create/retrieve better performing than GETMAIN/FREEMAIN (or STORAGE OBTAIN/RELEASE)? Name/Token retrieve is quite fast. Name/Token create and delete are far less so. -- Edward E Jaffe

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Charles Mills
Only if you're not authorized. (No good reason.) I really want to run non-authorized because it vastly lowers customer resistance to product trials. Why do you think IDENTIFY (with LOAD) has lower overhead? Just a guess. No good reason. Perhaps it's not. I don't know -- that's why I have

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread Scott Rowe
An IODF does not need to be cataloged in order to IPL with it. John Kelly john_j_ke...@ao.uscourts.gov 2/22/2010 11:03 AM snip So what i want to do is copy the IODF and place it on the COD res pack WITHOUT bringing up the COD(as it wouldn't work anyway) /snip Since the IODF is VSAM you'll

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread Hal Merritt
I believe that the IODF is one of the special cases that does not have to be cataloged. That said, I found that both the old and new IODF needs to be cataloged to perform a dynamic change. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer

2010-02-22 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 9:34 PM Subject: Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer Pinnacle wrote: I just got this Email today for a Java developer at $90-110/hr.

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer

2010-02-22 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 21:08:36 +0100, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: Well said. I am accustomed to fact that professor of physics earns much less than average soccer player or ex-Big Brother finalist. Sad, but true. Java programmer is not MVS sysprog and vice versa. Market decides

Re: Consolidate Storage Groups

2010-02-22 Thread Scott Rowe
One thing to remember is that you can't change the storage class of migrated datasets with alter. It should be possible to re-assign these on recall using the storage class ACS routine. Rebecca Martin rebecca.mar...@tgslc.org 2/22/2010 11:25 AM On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:10:00 -0500, John

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip-- At first this sounds easy but let me explain: I am working on putting up a COD..not the fish as we are coming from an unsupported z/os . I'd like to use my current IODF (or even the previous one) but herein lies the problem. I DON'T

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread Hal Merritt
IIRC, any attempt to catalog a SYS1 dataset will be forced to the current master. Locating a SYS1 dataset will always be done with the current master (unless explicit unit and vol ser is specified). SYS1 (as with any HLQ) can existing in any catalog. Getting a SYS1 entry in a usercat is a

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Charles Mills
That's the sort of direction I think I am going to go. Thanks, Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Don Poitras Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Best practice for 24-bit

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread J R
If you are going to keep the DCB open across calls you could: - extend your DCB with the rest of your information, i.e. make the DCB the first part of your control block. - when called, run the DEB queue until you find the one that points back to your DCB which you can identify/verify

Re: Consolidate Storage Groups

2010-02-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
One thing to remember is that you can't change the storage class of migrated datasets with alter. It should be possible to re-assign these on recall using the storage class ACS routine. It is. You can also make it environmentally specific, ie: SMS knows when a dataset is being recalled vs

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman snip-- At first this sounds easy but let me explain: I am working on putting up a COD..not the fish as we are coming from an unsupported z/os

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer

2010-02-22 Thread Howard Brazee
On 22 Feb 2010 09:12:16 -0800, pinnc...@rochester.rr.com (Pinnacle) wrote: My fault. While my good friend is correct that this is an apples and fish comparison, it was a reference to one of my main points that I did not re-post. My thesis is that college students looking at z/OS or Java

SMS QUESTION - MULTI VOLUME ALLOCATION

2010-02-22 Thread willie bunter
Hallo To All,   I have a DATACLASS defined to use a Volume Count of 5 to  allocate specific dsns for 7 specific alias. When I exeucted the DEFINE CLUSTER the dataset, which is VSAM, is allocated with the correct DATACLASS.  However, when I execute the batch job to populate the cluster I abend

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-02-22 Thread George Henke
Once again, thank you once again Anne and Lynn, and Mike Myers too. Nice to hear from you again, Mike. Only wished I knew all this back when we were trying to figure out how things worked. If only IBM would have made people like you available to the outside world. We had to read between the

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread McKown, John
There is a very old, very terrible technique that I used long ago. I mention it, but do not recommend it. From the currently executing TCB, find the job step TCB (JSTCB). Pick up the TCBFSA pointer from that TCB, which is a pointer to the first save area. Use the word at offset +0 to hold your

Re: LPARs: More or Less?

2010-02-22 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. gahe...@gmail.com (George Henke) writes: Yes, I believe it was some how connected to Preferred Machine Assist (PMA) where page 0 was actually owned by MVS not

Re: SMS QUESTION - MULTI VOLUME ALLOCATION

2010-02-22 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 11:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: SMS QUESTION - MULTI VOLUME ALLOCATION Hallo To All,   I have a DATACLASS defined to use a 

Re: SMS QUESTION - MULTI VOLUME ALLOCATION

2010-02-22 Thread willie bunter
John,   Thanks for pointing it out to me.  I check the job it was not a VSAM but a sequential file.  --- On Mon, 2/22/10, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: From: McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com Subject: Re: SMS QUESTION - MULTI VOLUME ALLOCATION To:

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer

2010-02-22 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-02-22 17:47, Arthur Gutowski pisze: [...] Java programmer is not MVS sysprog and vice versa. Market decides who is more required. Here in Poland Java programmers usually (this is generalization) earn much less than mainframe folks. In fact I don't feel better because of that. Oh,

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread Staller, Allan
snip IIRC, any attempt to catalog a SYS1 dataset will be forced to the current master. /snip Not true. See the catalog operand of the IDCAMS DEFINE command snip Locating a SYS1 dataset will always be done with the current master (unless explicit unit and vol ser is specified). /snip True.

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread Staller, Allan
snip Also SYS1 has the special attribute of DEFINE RECATALOG allowing the definition of the same dataset in 2 different catalogs (just like non-VSAMS datasdest). This only applies to datasets with the HLQ of SYS1. /snip I meant to add that with the exception of SYS1, a VSAM dataset can only

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer

2010-02-22 Thread George Henke
I will be eternally grateful that: - colleges do not teach mainframe as they do the toy machines, - there are no Dummies, etc books in book stores like Barnes and Noble, Borders, etc for mainframe, especially internals, - the uninitiated do not know about or even read IBM mainframe

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:34:48 -0600, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com wrote: snip Also SYS1 has the special attribute of DEFINE RECATALOG allowing the definition of the same dataset in 2 different catalogs (just like non-VSAMS datasdest). This only applies to datasets with the HLQ of SYS1.

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer

2010-02-22 Thread zMan
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 1:36 PM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com wrote: snip I think I have finally figured it out. It's all really very simple. Windows, toy machines, etc are simply for people who can't type. You know, I said that for many years. But it's not that simple. I suspect that

Fwd: How to avoid storage accumulation under REXX's Adress LINKMVS ?

2010-02-22 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
* CROSS-POSTED on TSO-REXX * Hi, I have a REXX program, calling an assembler pgm, via Address LINKMVS SBSY100 msg . It executes fine ...   a couple of times, BUT after a while I get this abend: IEW4000I FETCH FOR MODULE DBINFPR  FROM DDNAME STEPLIB  FAILED BECAUSE INSUFFICIENT STORAGE

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread Staller, Allan
Thanks for the update I did not know that ... snip I meant to add that with the exception of SYS1, a VSAM dataset can only exist in 1 catalog at a time. And PAGE. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread John Kelly
snip I meant to add that with the exception of SYS1, a VSAM dataset can only exist in 1 catalog at a time. /snip I must have missed this one too, when did IBM remove PAGE HLQ from this list? I thought that the original OP wanted to keep the COD separate from his running system, so I thought

Re: About ENQ - some basic questions

2010-02-22 Thread Steve Wilson
Hi Thomas, You may want to look into handling the ENQs yourself and not let SVC99 do them. Look at S99FLAG2 bit S99NORES. This tells SVC99 to not do the ENQ/DEQ. Regards, Steve Wilson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 12:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ? snip Also SYS1 has the special attribute of

Re: SMS QUESTION - MULTI VOLUME ALLOCATION

2010-02-22 Thread John Kington
Willie, I have a DATACLASS defined to use a Volume Count of 5 to allocate specific dsns for 7 specific alias. When I exeucted the DEFINE CLUSTER the dataset, which is VSAM, is allocated with the correct DATACLASS. However, when I execute the batch job to populate the cluster I abend on

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip- snip I meant to add that with the exception of SYS1, a VSAM dataset can only exist in 1 catalog at a time. /snip I must have missed this one too, when did IBM remove PAGE HLQ from this list? I thought that the original OP

Re: zAAp on zIIP Question

2010-02-22 Thread Gregg Willhoit
George, while I appreciate you calling Shadow a great program product, I have to remind you that we at Progress|DataDirect have absolutely nothing in common with NEON regarding our approaches to TCO, zIIP utilization, and most importantly how we conduct ourselves with regard to our

Re: About ENQ - some basic questions

2010-02-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:34:14 -0600, Steve Wilson wrote: You may want to look into handling the ENQs yourself and not let SVC99 do them. Look at S99FLAG2 bit S99NORES. This tells SVC99 to not do the ENQ/DEQ. Gulp! Integrity? Unless I'm missing something, I hope this facility isn't available

Re: SMS QUESTION - MULTI VOLUME ALLOCATION

2010-02-22 Thread willie bunter
John,   I ran a test allocating a VSAM dsn without the DATACLAS parm.  Yes, the DATACLASS is correctly assigned.  I spoke to our software group and they will need to add the alias to PRO-SMS which would span both VSAM and NON-VSAM dsns on multiple volumes should there be a space constraint on

Re: About ENQ - some basic questions

2010-02-22 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 02/22/10 14:15, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:34:14 -0600, Steve Wilson wrote: You may want to look into handling the ENQs yourself and not let SVC99 do them. Look at S99FLAG2 bit S99NORES. This tells SVC99 to not do the ENQ/DEQ. Gulp! Integrity? Unless I'm

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:43:47 -0600, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 12:35 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re:

Re: Fwd: How to avoid storage accumulation under REXX's Adress LINKMVS ?

2010-02-22 Thread Walt Farrell
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:40:54 +0100, Jan Vanbrabant vanbrabant...@gmail.com wrote: * CROSS-POSTED on TSO-REXX * Hi, I have a REXX program, calling an assembler pgm, via Address LINKMVS SBSY100 msg . It executes fine ...   a couple of times, BUT after a while I get this abend: IEW4000I

AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread George Rodriguez
I've got a vendor that is FTP'ing a file size of 96K and I was wondering if any of the listeners in this group know how to handle a record size that large? As always your help is appreciated... George Rodriguez Specialist II - IT Solutions Application Support / Quality Assurance PX - 47652

Re: SMS QUESTION - MULTI VOLUME ALLOCATION

2010-02-22 Thread John Kington
Willie, [keeping with topposting] I suspect you are not applying the dataclass to the nonvsam dataset. The fact that you could make it work when you added dataclas= to the DD statement makes me think you still have a problem there. ProSMS can dynamically add volumes to your dataset and I would

Re: Consolidate Storage Groups

2010-02-22 Thread Natarajan Mohan
Scott, Alter could be used to modify Storage Class of migrated data set's as well. Natarajan On 02/22/2010 09:19 AM, Scott Rowe wrote: One thing to remember is that you can't change the storage class of migrated datasets with alter. It should be possible to re-assign these on recall using

Re: AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread John Kington
George, I've got a vendor that is FTP'ing a file size of 96K and I was wondering if any of the listeners in this group know how to handle a record size that large? As always your help is appreciated... The only think I can think of at the moment is to ftp it to a hfs dataset. You could then

Re: AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread zMan
On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 2:44 PM, John Kington john.king...@convergys.comwrote: George, I've got a vendor that is FTP'ing a file size of 96K and I was wondering if any of the listeners in this group know how to handle a record size that large? As always your help is appreciated... The only

Re: AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread George Rodriguez
Smart thinking, it didn't even dawn on me to use hfs. Is there a manual that I can read to learn how? Thanks, George Rodriguez Specialist II - IT Solutions Application Support / Quality Assurance PX - 47652 (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobile) School District of Palm Beach County 3348

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer

2010-02-22 Thread George Henke
You know, I said that for many years. But it's not that simple. I suspect that truck drivers feel the same way about cars; that doesn't make cars useless/stupid/evil. One is for heavy lifting, one is for unskilled, everyday use. Each has its place -- and they share the road. Or like ambulance

Re: AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread George Rodriguez
It's my guess that it's an invoice and what we will need to do is break it apart for each school and ship their piece to each school. Thanks, George Rodriguez Specialist II - IT Solutions Application Support / Quality Assurance PX - 47652 (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobile) School

Re: AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread John Kington
Smart thinking, it didn't even dawn on me to use hfs. Is there a manual that I can read to learn how? These are the type of datasets used by Unix System Services. You should be using these already in some fashion. Zman is right in asking if the file is truely one long string of bytes (record).

Re: AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 February 2010 14:30, George Rodriguez rodrigu...@palmbeach.k12.fl.us wrote: I've got a vendor that is FTP'ing a file size of 96K and I was wondering if any of the listeners in this group know how to handle a record size that large? As always your help is appreciated... All AS/400 files

Re: AS/400 FTP to z/OS

2010-02-22 Thread McKown, John
QUOTE SITE WRAP Will allow the ftp to wrap the incoming record(s) into multiple records in the z/OS legacy dataset. Of course, you can't stitch them back together again, to determine the original records on the AS/400. Going into a UNIX file would preserve the original record structure. But

Re: Senior Java Developer vs. MVS Systems Programmer

2010-02-22 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. gahe...@gmail.com (George Henke) writes: I will be eternally grateful that: - colleges do not teach mainframe as they do the toy machines, - there are

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread McKown, John
My page datasets all start with PAGE.SYSNAME..LOCALnn and so on. When I replace an image, I just do a DEF PAGESPACE(NAME(PAGE.LIH1.COMMON) - FILE(MVSPG3) VOL(MVSPG3) RECATALOG) - CAT(CATALOG.ICF.newmastercat) I don this while they are still in use on the currently running system.

Re: zAAp on zIIP Question

2010-02-22 Thread George Henke
Thank you very much, Gregg, for the enlightenment. My current client is seriously considering your product, SHADOW, after I informed them last week that a previous client was able to extend the life of their 2 GPP configuration enormously by installing your product, SHADOW. My previous client,

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread John Kelly
snip DEF PAGESPACE(NAME(PAGE.LIH1.COMMON) - FILE(MVSPG3) VOL(MVSPG3) RECATALOG) - CAT(CATALOG.ICF.newmastercat) /snip I know that I have SYS1 HLQ page DSNs, rather than PAGE, but I haven't been able to simple recatalog the page DSNs since 1.7, I also don't understand how you could

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Kelly Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 3:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ? snip DEF PAGESPACE(NAME(PAGE.LIH1.COMMON) -

Re: Which session managers pass through IP addresses

2010-02-22 Thread Timothy Sipples
Shmuel, I asked around inside IBM, hence I'm replying about 10 days after you asked your question. Sorry for the delay. I don't think any session managers support what you're asking due to a current VTAM limitation. However, now that IBM has lifted the veil a little on z/OS 1.12, I can tell you

HSM SDSP questions

2010-02-22 Thread Gary Peters
I have a couple HSM SDSP questions. First, is it possible to influence the choice of which SDSP data set is selected for migration? We have eight SDSP data sets defined but the first available SDSP data set is almost always selected since we only run one migration task at a time. I would prefer

Re: HSM SDSP questions

2010-02-22 Thread Staller, Allan
1) No. You can only accept or reject migration on a dataset basis via exits. 2) YES and YES. Again, L2 migration can (IIRC) be controlled via the exits. HTH, snip First, is it possible to influence the choice of which SDSP data set is selected for migration? We have eight SDSP data sets

Re: About ENQ - some basic questions

2010-02-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:17:29 -0500, Mark Jacobs wrote: You may want to look into handling the ENQs yourself and not let SVC99 do them. Look at S99FLAG2 bit S99NORES. This tells SVC99 to not do the ENQ/DEQ. Unless I'm missing something, I hope this facility isn't available to nonauthorized

Re: zAAp on zIIP Question

2010-02-22 Thread Gregg Willhoit
George, glad be of help. DataDirect is not a party in the IBM lawsuit, in fact, we are strongly in favor of IBM's specialty engine strategy. We have been able to achieve almost 100% zIIP eligibility in our Shadow products and deliver real TCO savings to our customers while remaining in

Re: catalog a vsam dataset in another catalog ?

2010-02-22 Thread Hal Merritt
Um, folks, we seems to be mixing apples and Iphones here. In this context, page files, IODF's, and master catalogs are not really VSAM. And, yes, the rules for the SYS1 HLQ are a little different. NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended

Re: About ENQ - some basic questions

2010-02-22 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:43:05 -0600 Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: :On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:17:29 -0500, Mark Jacobs wrote: : You may want to look into handling the ENQs yourself and not let SVC99 do : them. Look at S99FLAG2 bit S99NORES. This tells SVC99 to not do the : ENQ/DEQ. :

Re: About ENQ - some basic questions

2010-02-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:11:28 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote: : You may want to look into handling the ENQs yourself and not let SVC99 do : them. Look at S99FLAG2 bit S99NORES. This tells SVC99 to not do the : ENQ/DEQ. : Unless I'm missing something, I hope this facility isn't : available to

Re: About ENQ - some basic questions

2010-02-22 Thread Wayne Driscoll
One place that MAY use it would JES2 for the SPOOL datasets. Since all spool datasets have the same name, if JES2 had the ENQ on the dataset name, you would be unable to delete or create additional SPOOL datasets while JES2 is running. === Wayne

Re: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++

2010-02-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 003c01cab362$c950c0c0$5bf242...@org, on 02/21/2010 at 06:00 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: Subject: Best practice for 24-bit storage in assembler called from C/C++ Best practice is for new code to be refreshable and reentrant. I'm writing a fairly large MVS batch application in

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