Re: Accessing The Archives

2006-03-16 Thread TISLER Zaromil
Darren wrote: That problem has been rectified. Thank you, Darren. Sam wrote: You can also search them through the Google Groups Archive http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djqas_ugroup=bit.listserv.ibm-main Thank you, Sam. Using the mailing list exclusively, I just forget the possibility

Re: CF usage at DR location

2006-03-16 Thread TISLER Zaromil
- snip - I have a full test this weekend, so hopefully will have some of this ironed out. I am going with a newly formatted CFRM dataset and retaining all the other COUPLE datasets. If I use a new CFRM dataset, where is the CF policy information stored? I was thinking it was stored in the

Info-ZIP and blksize

2006-03-16 Thread TISLER Zaromil
Last few days I used Info-ZIP quite a lot (z/OS 1.6 and 1.7). The problem I have is that the blocksize of zipped files equals 80, so the zipped files need a lot of space. E.g. adding: 'N500223/D#060301/CHAN#IOQ/RMF#BC01.TXT' (in=5893937) (out=523379) (deflated 91%) total bytes=5893937,

Re: Batch TMP RECFM(VB) Input

2006-03-16 Thread Ulrich Boche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S.: You can also use the EX command in SYSTSIN to invoke your RACF command file as a CLIST, instead of specifying it directly in the SYSTSIN DD statement. SYSTSIN DD * EX 'DSN' /* Nice idea, but how do I get the same behavior as feeding the file into program

Re: New CLIST on SYSPROC - refresh

2006-03-16 Thread R.S.
Skip Robinson wrote: I know the problem is solved now, but I remember a similarly mysterious occurrence in the past. It was one of those 'this could not possibly be happening' situations. Two systems in a shared DASD environment came to point to two different devices with the same volser. It's

Re: Initiator hung

2006-03-16 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Bill Westland wrote: Last time I had this problem was on an OS/390 2.4 system. I found a CA product (CA-1 or CA-7) that had corrupted the initiators. I was able to FORCE the initiators and JES was able to restart the initiators (new ASID of course) and we ran throughout the week without any

Re: 9840 cart question

2006-03-16 Thread Karson, Lynne (SAA)
I have verified that we have StorageTek 9840 drives. You have all given me an answer that my boss can now work with. I will pass on the information. Thanks to all who have responded. I have great good fun reading and passing on knowledge and articles from this forum even though most of it is

Podcast on SOA

2006-03-16 Thread McKown, John
It can be downloaded here: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/podcast/websphere/ws-soa7fnd2.html ?S_TACT=105AGX58S_CMP=DNLca=dnl I'm in the process of downloading it. It is a 19 minute long mp3 file, about 17.6Mb (or Mib or?). There is an associated transcript available for reading as well.

Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes

2006-03-16 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
Doc said: I've yet to see a mainframe to client-server transition that didn't end in tears, higher costs, lowered service levels, gnashing of teeth, roaming gangs of SysProgs threatening passers by in Hex, large cracks appearing in the Earth's surface and all life in the Universe coming to a

Re: 9840 cart question

2006-03-16 Thread Anthony Bongiorno
we have 9490's they read 3490 and 3480 tapes. you say your 9480 read 3490 tapes. Karson, Lynne (SAA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 03/15/2006 03:30 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes

2006-03-16 Thread Jon Brock
Speaking as someone at a shop with a 2086-240, I'm a little concerned *now*. Jon snip so let's see, 9672-RB5, a grand total of 89 mips. I'll start getting concerned when I see 15,000 mip shops migrating off the mainframe. /snip

Re: 9840 cart question

2006-03-16 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/16/2006 6:43:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have verified that we have StorageTek 9840 drives. You have all given me an answer that my boss can now work with. I will pass on the information. Thanks to all who have responded. I have great

SDSF - COMMAND INPUT === question

2006-03-16 Thread JONES, CHARLIE
My COMMAND INPUT === dropped to the bottom of the screen in SDSF and I don't know why. My Command line at bottom in option 0 of ISPF is not selected and all of my ISPF panels have the command line at the top. What the heck did I do to SDSF? TIA, Charlie J

Re: SDSF - COMMAND INPUT === question

2006-03-16 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Charlie, to get your command line back to the top, do the following: Go into SDSF, any panel Type the word SETTINGS on the command line, press Enter. This will bring up the IPSF Settings panel: Log/List Function keys Colors Environ Workstation Identifier Help

(fwd) Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes - Part 2

2006-03-16 Thread Clark Morris
On 15 Mar 2006 16:36:34 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, another shop, 13 mips this time. When I see 15,000 mip shops migrating off the mainframe, I will be concerned. so, he got rid of one 2003-205 mainframe, replaced one 13 mip machine for 30 servers, not to

Re: 9840 cart question

2006-03-16 Thread Karson, Lynne (SAA)
I was under a misunderstanding. We code unit=3490 in our JCL, but the cartridges are really 3590's. Heaven forbid that our systems side tell the application side what the real story is. That is what I love about working here. I get to run around and verify all kinds of things in addition to

Re: SDSF - COMMAND INPUT === question

2006-03-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
This settings change will be memorized, but be sure to exit ISPF cleanly (don't allow the session to timeout / get cancelled) so the change really is stored in your ISPF profile dataset for the future. Or: have a REXX EXEC (call it PROFSAVE): /* REXX */ trace address ISPEXEC VGET ZAPPLID

Re: CF usage at DR location

2006-03-16 Thread Skip Robinson
You should probably *not* use the DSN/VOL parameters for normal production policies. By default the system will find and use the active CFRM couple data set. But whenever you need to put a policy into *another* couple data set, that's where the parameters come into play. You only need to put

Re: (fwd) Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes - Part 2

2006-03-16 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:18:03 -0400, Clark Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given that the mainframe was running 2.10, I suspect that the applications running on it were ones that were less than optimal and this may have forced application consolidation and upgrade. Frankly I would like to see

Re: 9840 cart question

2006-03-16 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/16/2006 10:30:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cartridges are really 3590's. Heaven forbid that our systems side tell the application side what the real story is. That is what I love about working here. I get to run around and verify all kinds

Re: IXFP No Longer Supported

2006-03-16 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Bruno, Sorry mate, but with PPRC the Device End will come back to the Host whether the write to the Site B Bay succeeds or fails. This means lost data, even with PPRC Synchronous Remote Copy. Same is true for Synchronous Remote Copy using SRDF and TrueCopy. You have to be running PPRC with

Re: virtual copies

2006-03-16 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Bruce, At Time splits with Shadowimage and/or TrueCopy use Timestamps to initiate the split and create consistency. There is no blockade of writes for a few seconds while all the volumes are split. Ron With normal backups, and even with normal instant replication, I/O consistency cannot be

Assembler question

2006-03-16 Thread Bill Larsen
Dear all (...) L 10,ADR1 MVC ZON,0(10) === (XX) (..) ADR1 DS F === why when i replace (XX) by MVC ZON,ADR1 , i don't have the same value in ZON ??? Thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Assembler question

2006-03-16 Thread John P Kalinich
What is the length of ZON? Bill Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] COM

Re: Assembler question

2006-03-16 Thread Rob Scott
The replacement instruction moves the ADDRESS into ZON, instead of the contents at the ADDRESS as previously coded. Rob Scott Rocket Software http://www.rs.com/portfolio/mxi/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Assembler question

2006-03-16 Thread Steve Comstock
Bill Larsen wrote: Dear all (...) L 10,ADR1 MVC ZON,0(10) === (XX) (..) ADR1 DS F === why when i replace (XX) by MVC ZON,ADR1 , i don't have the same value in ZON ??? Maybe because ADR1 should be an address constant? Kind regards, -Steve Comstock

Re: Assembler question

2006-03-16 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Bill, break out your old Assembler 101 classroom handbook or the Assembler Language manual and ask yourself the following question: What does a L (Load) instruction do, as opposed to the LA (Load _Address_) instruction? Also please note that MVC moves (copies) storage from the _address_ pointed

Re: Assembler question

2006-03-16 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
Bill wrote: Dear all (...) L 10,ADR1 MVC ZON,0(10) === (XX) (..) ADR1 DS F === why when i replace (XX) by MVC ZON,ADR1 , i don't have the same value in ZON ??? Assume that the following: Basereg = 12 Offset of ZON = X'444' Offset of ADR1 = X'200' Content of ADR1 = address of CL32'X...X'

Re: Assembler question

2006-03-16 Thread Todd Burch
Bill, ADR1 is based on some register and offset in your program. Let's pretend it is R3, and is 4 bytes off of R3. So, being that, the instructions looks like this: L R10,4(,R3) MVC ZON,0(R10) By rewriting the instructions, you get this: MVC ZON,4(R3) Can you see the difference

UID(0) and concurrent processes

2006-03-16 Thread Steve Horein
Hello listers, While installing an upgrade to a product, the instructions indicate to assign UID(0) to an ID. The product in question involves running a Java server, and the webserver task supporting the Java server likewise has this requirement. When questioning Support for the product, it was

Re: UID(0) and concurrent processes

2006-03-16 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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z/Journal DB2 Tidbit DB2 Podcasts at http://www.db2expert.com/podcasts.html

2006-03-16 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi, z/Journal really is a good publication and it's FREE. http://www.zjournal.com/ I took time this afternoon to read and recycle (pass to a college) the current paper issue. I always find a useful tidbit for dessert in addition to the meat potato's of the articles themselves. This time

Re: UID(0) and concurrent processes

2006-03-16 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Horein Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: UID(0) and concurrent processes Hello listers, While installing an upgrade to a product, the

FLEX-ES

2006-03-16 Thread Jay Howard
We are a small shop running a zSeries/890 (capacity 130) and management is looking at using a FLEX-ES system for disaster recovery purposes. Is there anyone that has or is doing this that would be willing to share their experiences? You can reply directly to me if you like. Thank You, Jay

Re: FLEX-ES

2006-03-16 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Jay Howard wrote: We are a small shop running a zSeries/890 (capacity 130) and management is looking at using a FLEX-ES system for disaster recovery purposes. Is there anyone that has or is doing this that would be willing to share their experiences? You can reply directly to me if you like.

Re: FLEX-ES

2006-03-16 Thread Jay Howard
According to Gartner it does. Jay Howard Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 03/16/2006 02:55 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: FLEX-ES Jay Howard

Re: FLEX-ES

2006-03-16 Thread August Carideo
Yes it does some prior draw backs was it did not support ESCON which it does now and even though it supported parallel channels, you could not connect them to DASD controllers I have only seen it used at one MVS location , but many VM, VSE shops due to the fact IBM does not have a low mip solution

Re: FLEX-ES

2006-03-16 Thread Marian Gasparovic
I may be wrong, but last time I heard, z/OS 64bit was not licensed/supported (whatever legal words) besides development purposes. On 3/16/06, Jay Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are a small shop running a zSeries/890 (capacity 130) and management is looking at using a FLEX-ES system for

Re: FLEX-ES

2006-03-16 Thread Steve Comstock
Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Jay Howard wrote: We are a small shop running a zSeries/890 (capacity 130) and management is looking at using a FLEX-ES system for disaster recovery purposes. Is there anyone that has or is doing this that would be willing to share their experiences? You can reply

Re: UID(0) and concurrent processes

2006-03-16 Thread Marian Gasparovic
Any UID can run concurrent processes. UID 0 unlimited number, others are limited by MAXsomething in BPXPRMxx. On 3/16/06, Steve Horein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello listers, While installing an upgrade to a product, the instructions indicate to assign UID(0) to an ID. The product in question

Re: FLEX-ES

2006-03-16 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 2:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FLEX-ES snip Sure, if you pay the standard license fees for the z/OS base and any

Re: UID(0) and concurrent processes

2006-03-16 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 13:52 -0600, McKown, John wrote: The maximum per UID is set in BPXPRMxx member with the MAXPROCSYS() parameter. Um, MAXPROCUSER? -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For

Re: z/Journal DB2 Tidbit DB2 Podcasts at http://www.db2expert.com/podcasts.html

2006-03-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
z/Journal really is a good publication and it's FREE. Only in the US. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: SMP/E for non-sysprogs?

2006-03-16 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:29:04 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... it's to everyone's benefit that the experienced SMP users lend them a helping hand. At the outset. But if they ignore what the experienced SMP users told them then they should clean up their own

Re: FLEX-ES

2006-03-16 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 14:52 -0500, Jay Howard wrote: We are a small shop running a zSeries/890 (capacity 130) and management is looking at using a FLEX-ES system for disaster recovery purposes. Is there anyone that has or is doing this that would be willing to share their experiences? You

Re: FLEX-ES

2006-03-16 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
McKown, John wrote: Not entirely. PWD people can get z/OS running 64-bit mode. Commercial users are still limited to running z/OS in 31-bit mode. However, I think that the newest instructions are available even in 31-bit mode. In this context, 64-bit mode is shorthand for z/Architecture

Re: SMP/E for non-sysprogs?

2006-03-16 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 14:22 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: I've shot myself in the foot only a few (3 or 4) times but they were doozies. soapbox *Everyone* who uses SMP to any degree has a war story. The situations that degenerate into fiasco are generally exacerbated by attempts at recovery.

Re: FLEX-ES

2006-03-16 Thread Sebastian Welton
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:19:34 +1000, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but every time I hear FLEX I think laptop with dongle. I have this recurring image of the DR site being folded up and taken home to finish that Gantt chart or somesuch ... One day I guess I'll see one that isn't in a bag on

CA-OPS/MVS

2006-03-16 Thread Mark Steely
I am currently in the process of switching from CA-Opera to CA-OPS/MVS. We are currently in the process of bringing in CA to help us convert . I was just trying to get a jump on things. I am having trouble trying to determine what to use within an ALERT process to communicate with CA-7. The one

Re: Offloading Reports

2006-03-16 Thread Larry Burch
Somebody at LRS tells me their product-in-development (expected to be available early next year, on Windoz/Unixes/Linuxes) should be just about what we are looking for -- and able to convert our existing PageCenter inventory of reports. So my boss says Let's wait. Thanks to all who replied.

Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes

2006-03-16 Thread Larry Altman
We often see such corporate exclamations of intention, but is there any organization that keeps track of successes and failures and will make these results public? Those statistics, company names and general environments attempted would be interesting and perhaps useful for arguing against

Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes

2006-03-16 Thread Doc Farmer
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:53:46 -0500, Richard Tsujimoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doc said: I've yet to see a mainframe to client-server transition that didn't end in tears, higher costs, lowered service levels, gnashing of teeth, roaming gangs of SysProgs threatening passers by in Hex, large cracks

Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes

2006-03-16 Thread Kirk Talman
84 99 96 93 93 5A IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 03/16/2006 05:53:26 PM: E a n y - m e a n y ' c h i l i - b e a n y ' 45 61 6E 79 2D 6D 65 61 6E 79 2C 20 63 68 69 6C 69 2D 62 65 61 6E 79 2C 20 t h e s p i r i t s a r

TOD Sync acroos platforms (IBM and non-IBM) - STP?

2006-03-16 Thread Giovanni Cerquone
Dear folks; We have a necessity to synchronize our IBM Parallel Sysplex with other platforms, i.e. HP Non Stop, Sun, PSeries, etc. I'm aware that PS does not support NTP. I was thinking if with STP we can achieve this but with the information I have, I think the answer seems to be a big NO. Any

Re: TOD Sync acroos platforms (IBM and non-IBM) - STP?

2006-03-16 Thread Brian Peterson
To what level of precision is synchronization required? To a 0.1 / second? To a 0.01 / second? To a 0.001 / second? If the first, or perhaps the second, if all servers sync to NIST in Boulder CO, then they'll all be the same. NTP synchronization amongst all the platforms you cite will

Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes

2006-03-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
t h e s p i r i t s a r e a b o u t t o s p e a k ! Are they friendly spirits? Frendly? Just listen! Fan mail from some flounder? - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in!

Re: TOD Sync acroos platforms (IBM and non-IBM) - STP?

2006-03-16 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
Run the NTP server on the parallel sysplex and have the other platforms use it as the time source. Jerry Whitteridge Safeway Inc -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giovanni Cerquone Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:17 PM

Re: Assembler question

2006-03-16 Thread Chris Mason
Bill, This is the old How does LOAD differ from LOAD ADDRESS? issue - as has already comprehensively been pointed out. You may like to know there is a list/group oriented to Assembler which can be accessed as follows: quote SUBSCRIBING TO ASSEMBLER-LIST: To subscribe to ASSEMBLER-LIST, send an

Re: MVS CONSOLE REXX

2006-03-16 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/16/2006 3:55:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: still have to figure out how to stop this message that keeps appearing in SYSLOG ... MPF maybe??? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

HMC Load from CD-ROM , SERVER

2006-03-16 Thread caleb ong
Hello, I am trying to use the LOAD from CD-ROM option on the HMC. I do a Single object and then CPC recovery. I click on LOAD from CD-ROM option and click the LPAR . From the LOAD from CDROM or Server Windows shows the HMC CD-ROM and LOAD CDROM options have been grayed out. It is not

Re: Batch TMP RECFM(VB) Input

2006-03-16 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4)
IKJEFT1A does return after the first non-zero return code even if the input comes from a data set executed via ex command. Either the SYSTSIN DD * or the PARM= version work for me. Or did I missunderstand you question? Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE

Re: UID(0) and concurrent processes

2006-03-16 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4)
Um, MAXPROCUSER? Yes, MAXPROCUSER limits the number of concurrent processes per user, MAXPROCSYS sets the systemwide limit. Don't increase MAXPROCUSER to an unreasonable value just because one server needs a large nummber of processes. Use the PROCUSERMAX attribute in that userid's OMVS segment.