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On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:17:17 -0400, Phil Smith III li...@akphs.com wrote:
We have a largish batch LE C application that runs in POSIX mode. For
performance optimization, we're rewriting a couple of routines in assembler.
Have you measured the performance boost the OPTIMIZE compiler option
I'm trying to simulate TSO TRANSMIT format data for secure email
I find I need the NJE node I'm executing on for the header
Has anyone any code they have used to extract this??? All hints gratefully
received.
Andy Robertson telephone mobile 0777 214 9545 home 01308 420797
Thanks for that. Downloaded it but apart from the 32K restriction I don't
think it will do the job. Looking at the documentation it seems to have
originally been written for sequential datasets and then updated to only do
PDS'es.
I've tried a couple of other options. ICETOOL has the COUNT option
How are you doing this. REXX? Assembler? Other?
So are you creating a program that will generate the email using SMTP or
some other process?
Lizette
I'm trying to simulate TSO TRANSMIT format data for secure email
I find I need the NJE node I'm executing on for the header
Has
I have a concern of the way the EMC Software - Timefinder Snap - under
Mainframe Enabler Software 7.0 works.
EMC decided that when the SNAP function occurs on a volume, they would issue
the S DEALLOC proc (Yes IEFBR14) to get IOS to vary the volume offline
sooner. I am not sure if that is a good
Has anyone seen the old CICS poster that was made of all forms of what CICS
could mean? I lost mine many years ago in a move and would love to find
another one.
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:27 PM, CM Poncelet ponce...@bcs.org.uk wrote:
That is what an ex-IBMer from the old days told me 'CICS'
Probably not exactly what you are looking for, but on the topic of books
about the mainframe, I would like to recommend the following.
What On Earth is a Mainframe? By David Stephens.
I have loaned my copy of this book to several Windows and UNIX folks and
they have all given it very positive
On 23 Jul 2010 18:24:26 -0700, zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) wrote:
That's OK, John, Ted was just repeating what I'd said many posts earlier. So
you can agree with me, and sleep at night.
P.S. I like United Statesians -- makes perfect sense!
It still isn't sufficient, there are other American
COBOL/HLASM
The program is my XMITMAIL freeware, callable subroutine to send an email-
Andy
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Subject: Re: getting NJE node name
How are
On 23 Jul 2010 21:31:30 -0700, t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) wrote:
On the other hand, Unitedstatians have been known to pronounce SNA and
RJE as words, and even on occasion to say them together so that it
sounds like a sneeze.
That's a new one for this USAmerican.
Bless you!
Wait - light
On 24 Jul 2010 08:38:23 -0700, rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman)
wrote:
Most hardware and home center stores don't even know what a
Robertson-drive screw IS. And of the few that know, you'll only find
wood screws. No machine screws. :-(
In the U.S., we use screws that use hex wrenches for this
On 24 Jul 2010 12:30:05 -0700, gib...@wsu.edu (Gibney, Dave) wrote:
My CICS guy just retired. He used KICKS or C-I-C-S depending on the
audicence. I've always used C-i-c-s, because that's what I heard first.
Now that I have to become the CICS guy also, maybe I'll have to start
using KICKS :( At
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:48:41 +0100, Andy Robertson
andy_robert...@johnlewis.co.uk wrote:
I'm trying to simulate TSO TRANSMIT format data for secure email
I find I need the NJE node I'm executing on for the header
Has anyone any code they have used to extract this??? All hints
gratefully
To all who responded - Thank you.
If you've asked questions which have gone unanswered, it is because - I don't
know.
Management asked a question, they didn't elaborate as to why.
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: Robert A. Rosenberg
Jan MOEYERSONS wrote:
Have you measured the performance boost the OPTIMIZE compiler option
brings you? Is it still worth it trying to do better in assembler?
No such option in the compiler we're using, and the operations are large
multi-precision arithmetic. All the code we've seen generated
Does the following fragment help?
*
* INFORMATION RETRIEVED FROM JES VIA IEFSSREQ
LAR1,ASSOB
MVC RVDERMAC,=CL8'IEFSSREQ'
IEFSSREQ ,
LTR R15,R15
JNZ RVCALL
*
MVC RVDERMAC,=CL8'IEFJSSOB'
SRR0,R0 NO REASON
From one of Mark Zelden's IPLINFO Rexx
JESCT= C2d(Storage(D2x(CVT + 296),4))/* point to JESCT */
JESPJESN = Storage(D2x(JESCT + 28),4)/* name of primary JES */
The primary job entry subsystem is JES2.
The JES2 level is z/OS 1.9. The JES2
Another way to pronounce the acronym as a single word is that often used by
native Italians who have learned English as a second language. They, by
default, will pronounce CICS as cheeks, or perhaps chicks. When I worked
for Landmark Systems Corp., the original developer of TMON/CICS, I
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:41:42 -0400, Pinnacle pinnc...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
I'm running a utility that outputs IEBUPDTE cards to create a PDS. When
running the cards, we hit the maximum size of a PDS, 65535 tracks. Any
attempt to go beyond that gets us an E37 abend.
So simple solution,
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:37:10 -0400, Lizette Koehler
stars...@mindspring.com wrote:
From one of Mark Zelden's IPLINFO Rexx
JESCT= C2d(Storage(D2x(CVT + 296),4))/* point to JESCT */
JESPJESN = Storage(D2x(JESCT + 28),4)/* name of primary JES */
The primary job entry
Declare a Sev 1. and ask for the L1 or L2 support manager.
If that fails ask for the product manager or the client base owner (It
will probably take a while to get ahold of these people.
snip
How does one escalate CA problems?
/snip
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:51:31 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
Yep, you went slightly over the limit of 15,728,639
Record number TTRs start at X'11' within a PDSE member.
Record number TTRs range from X'11' to X'FF'.
The maximum number of PDSE members is 522,236.
Hmmm.
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:41:42 -0400, Pinnacle pinnc...@rochester.rr.com
wrote:
I'm running a utility that outputs
I have also heard it called sissy.
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Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 11:08 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: CICS - KICKS (Re: PROP instead of POPS, PoO, et al.)
On 23 July
United Statesian is more than merely a perfect sense-maker. It is the
literal translation into English from the Spanish word estadounidense, which
means someone from the United States of America. Many hispanophones find
estadounidense preferable to norteamericano, which means anyone from
On 25 Jul 2010 18:42:52 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Some months ago, John Ehrman posted asking why we don't like PDSE's. I just
found somehting that blows my mind, a ridiculous limitation in PDSE's that
all by itself militates against their usage.
I'm running a utility that
Bob,
You left out the other in syllable in Kaliningrad. The easiest way to
remember how to spell it correctly is to use either of the two words for it in
the native languages of people that have ruled it - Калининград or Königsberg.
:-)
The Russian name, when transliterated into English, is
There are a couple of books available through Amazon that might be good
for an introduction. They are
Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics by IBM Redbooks
z/OS (MVS) Primer by David Shelby Kirk
The second one has the Look Inside capability, and I checked the table
of contents. It
Does anyone have any detailed information on fillling in the required fields on
the LDAP setup screen for the HMC. We are having some issues with what
should be in the search filter field. This is on a Z9.
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:10:16 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:51:31 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
Yep, you went slightly over the limit of 15,728,639
Record number TTRs start at X'11' within a PDSE member.
Record number TTRs range from X'11' to
How about issuing only one START command after all the 1000's of VARY commands
have been issued? Sounds like a no-brainer to me. But their software would
only know to do this if your SNAP function includes all the 1000's of volumes
in a list.
Bill Fairchild
Rocket Software
-Original
Was Chernobyl Interminable Catastrophe System one of them? :-)
Bill Fairchild
Rocket Software
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:13:54 -0400, Pinnacle pinnc...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
Yep, you went slightly over the limit of 15,728,639
Record number TTRs start at X'11' within a PDSE member.
Record number TTRs range from X'11' to X'FF'.
The maximum number of PDSE members is
I don't remember many of them any more, But one I always remember is Can It
Cook Soup...
After one really bad night of debugging a Storage Violation I wanted to
rename it to Customer Resource Access Program.
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com wrote:
Was
Reminds me of a conversation I had regarding the words used to make people
smile when having their photograph taken. In the UK, we say Cheese,
however, in Spain they say potatoes (Patatas), and in France they say
Fromage ... ? .. :-)
Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com
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Hello guys and gals and anyone else!
I am trying to help out a friend here, and with so many vacations in place,
don't have access to the right people with the right JCL.
Can someone help me by providing a sample batch JCL member to compile COBOL
programs using HLPI for DL/I? If I have the
In Rexx you could use x=sysinfo(SYSNODE). This should return in x the Network
node name of the installation's JES.
Thanks;
Ray Baraniecki
1 New York Plaza - 18th Floor
New York, NY 10004
Telephone: 212-276-5641
Cell: 917-597-5692
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Bill Fairchild pisze:
Bob,
You left out the other in syllable in Kaliningrad. The easiest way to
remember how to spell it correctly is to use either of the two words for it in the native languages
of people that have ruled it - Калининград or Königsberg. :-)
The Russian name, when
My German might be a bit rusty, but isn't Burg - Castle and Berg -
Mountain ?
R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl
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David Crayford wrote:
Absolutely no need to use CEEENTRY or any LE macros in your assembler
code unless you want to call LE services.
It's not a requirement, and a lot of programs would work without using
CEEENTRY, but it's worth noting that we had a program that did its own roll-
your-own
Hi all, does anyone know if there is a bullet point list that highlight
the highlights of the zEnterprise box?
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:36:29 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
Several shops I have been at (including my first
exposure to MVS) had a proc called X which was a copy of DEALLOC.
The operator would VARY xxx,OFFLINE then S X to kick in
deallocation. This goes back to at
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This is most likely an error in BPXPRMxx. Possibly some sort of catalog
error.
The x'7A; return code in the BPXF029E message indicates an IO error
In addition:
Verify the correct mount attributes in BPXPRMxx (R or R/W)
Verify that you have started the ZFS address space correctly.
Verify the VSAM
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/hardware/zenterprise/features.html
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Don't even need a proc. Just issue 'S X'. That is enough to drive
allocation.
snip
So, every shop had a PROC named X or Z or something that
the operators could remember, so all that had to do was type
S X. The X PROC included only a single EXEC statement,
For PGM=IEFBR14.
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From my previous days as a frequent SHARE attendee, I have often seen IBM ask
specific technical questions of their customer base when contemplating a
redesign; e.g., when designing SMS in the early 1980s, they polled their
customers to find out how many, if any, were still using unmovable data
quote
See page 8
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That would be see the 8th page of the document which is actually tagged
as page 2...
Rex
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Subject: Re: Another reason to hate PDSE's
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:13:54 -0400, Pinnacle pinnc...@rochester.rr.com
wrote:
Yep, you went slightly over the
I'm not sure what IBM's PDS design objectives were in the early '60s, but I
expect that one was to store multiple data sets per track. Of course, these
would tend to be small data sets. I expect that IBM assumed that very few
customers, if any, had very large members. Therefore when they
It has always been a lot easier to spell a one-letter procname than one with
seven letters when entering the START proclib_member_name command on an
operator's console. One problem with X is that some installations may have had
a procedure named X that was not trivial and did real, useful,
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:54:48 -0500, Brian Peterson
brian.peterson.ibm.m...@comcast.net wrote:
Doing anything thousands of times is very likely NOT a good idea. Sounds
like a serious problem with MFE 7.0 to me.
I don't know the history of DEALLOC. From SMP/E on z/OS 1.11:
Really? I thought
In a message dated 7/26/2010 8:22:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
obrie...@mail.nih.gov writes:
If you've asked questions which have gone unanswered, it is because - I
don't know.
Management asked a question, they didn't elaborate as to why.
I was thinking obscure researcher in remote
Brian Peterson asked:
Maybe someone ... on this list more familiar with the oddities
of OS/360, could ... explain what DEALLOC is/was intended to
accomplish.
Simply ensure that Allocation got control. Only Allocation
would actually (for example) vary a DASD volume offline. To
make it
On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 12:46 -0400, Pinnacle wrote:
What a crappy design. [...] Brain dead.
I'm inclined to give the PDSE designers a little more credit. One of
the PDSPAIN White Paper's requirements was not another VSAM - at the
time we were struggling with the filesystem-within-a-filesystem
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:02:24 -0500, Etienne Thijsse wrote:
If I use the C function remove() to remove a member from a PDSE, then from
that moment on, the PDSE is locked, ISPF says in use, I can't create a new
member in it using fopen() in the same program. The PDSE only gets unlocked
after the
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:16:17 -0300, Clark Morris wrote:
Could Unix directories handle all of the functions of PDSE? When I
read that we would still need PDSs, I wondered what pointy haired
idiot designed the PDSE where one needed a started address space even
to read it.
Well, if you don't need
Hi,
If I use the C function remove() to remove a member from a PDSE, then from
that moment on, the PDSE is locked, ISPF says in use, I can't create a new
member in it using fopen() in the same program. The PDSE only gets unlocked
after the program has ended.
In the joblog I saw that the PDSE
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 06:59:58 -0600, Howard Brazee
howard.bra...@cusys.edu wrote:
Most hardware and home center stores don't even know what a
Robertson-drive screw IS. And of the few that know, you'll only find
wood screws. No machine screws. :-(
In the U.S., we use screws that use hex wrenches
Peter Nuttall is of course quite right. Thomas Mann, who called his novel Der
Zauberberg, The Magic Mountain, had full command of his language.
John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA
_
Doing anything thousands of times is very likely NOT a good idea. Sounds
like a serious problem with MFE 7.0 to me.
I don't know the history of DEALLOC. From SMP/E on z/OS 1.11:
Entry Type: PROC Zone Name: MVST100
Entry Name: DEALLOC
We are z/OS V1R11. I am trying to copy the OMVS (ZFS) files to my TEST system.
I used DFDSS logical dump and restore and I also renamed the files using
IDCAMS. When I IPL the test system I get the following messages:
IEC161I 037(186,000,IGG0CLFT)-003,ZFS,ZFS,SYS2,,,OMVS.PRDB.ROOT,,
834
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:32:00 -0400, Don Williams wrote:
I'm not sure what IBM's PDS design objectives were in the early '60s, but I
expect that one was to store multiple data sets per track. Of course, these
would tend to be small data sets. I expect that IBM assumed that very few
customers, if
If unable to make the directions work, you can always go to this link to sign
off
http://www.listserv.uga.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=cics-lA=1D=0H=0O=TT=1
Lizette
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From: Rich Smrcina rsmrc...@gmail.com
Sent: Jul 26, 2010 12:39 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re:
The operator would VARY xxx,OFFLINE then S X to kick in deallocation.
This goes back to at least MVS SP (which was the first
MVS I worked on).
I worked on the last MVS 3.8 (before qualifiers such as SE, SP, XA, ESA, etc),
before SE1 came along.
It was SOP, then.
-
I'm a SuperHero with neither
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:00:52 +, Bill Fairchild wrote:
And isn't the maximum size of a PDS 65535 cylinders instead of 65535 tracks?
But Tom Conley has an excellent point that the maximum size of a PDS member
should be supported by any redesign. E.g., I have seen some large PDSes that
Most hardware and home center stores don't even know what a
Robertson-drive screw IS. And of the few that know, you'll only find
wood screws. No machine screws. :-(
In the U.S., we use screws that use hex wrenches for this niche.
Most countries use hex wrenches and Torx screws (etc)
One problem with X is that some installations may have had a procedure named X
that was not trivial and did real, useful, productive work.
Since every shop I've worked in (starting in 1981) had X as DEALLOC clone, why
would any SYSPROG allow a 'productive' X, when it's a de facto standard for
And isn't the maximum size of a PDS 65535 cylinders instead of 65535 tracks?
No, just like standard PS, it's tracks.
Regardless of what you specify, DADSM translates to tracks, in the VTOC.
-
I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation!
Kimota!
I had an SE many years ago that did say S-N-A as SNAH. Confused me every
time. I've never heard anyone try to say R-J-E as a word. What you you use,
reggie?
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote:
On 24 July 2010 00:14, Ron Hawkins ron.hawkins1...@sbcglobal.net
On 26 Jul 2010 07:16:35 -0700, cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca (Clark
Morris) wrote:
Could Unix directories handle all of the functions of PDSE? When I
read that we would still need PDSs, I wondered what pointy haired
idiot designed the PDSE where one needed a started address space even
to read it.
I
On 26 Jul 2010 07:16:09 -0700, bi...@mainstar.com (Bill Fairchild)
wrote:
United Statesian is more than merely a perfect sense-maker. It is the
literal translation into English
from the Spanish word estadounidense, which means someone from the United
States of America.
Many hispanophones
I had an SE many years ago that did say S-N-A as SNAH.
I worked with a few that did that, and it always made the VTAM SYSPROGs cringe.
The only thing I noticed was that their accents were grown south of the
Mason-Dixon Line.
-
I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation!
Kimota!
I don't even like ordinary PDS. Other operating systems don't need them.
That doesn't make them wrong.
There are some implementation flaws, but they exist, so use them, and know
flaws and repairs.
PS: Can you spell DLL?
-
I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation!
Kimota!
I've heard CRJE pronounced 'krijjee, but never RJE.
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
I had an SE many years ago that did say S-N-A as SNAH.
I worked with a few that did that, and it always made the VTAM SYSPROGs
cringe.
The only thing I noticed was
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:00:52 +, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com wrote:
And isn't the maximum size of a PDS 65535 cylinders instead of 65535 tracks?
No, it's 64K tracks. It is the same per volume limit as many other
data set types (non-extended). But PDSes and PDSEs are also limited
to
Once in a great while, the shop's local sysprog is told what to do by a manager
and not given a choice as to what he thinks is best (e.g., what something's
name will be).
My experience only covers one to two dozen shops in which I have worked or to
which I have had access, starting only 15
pacemainl...@gmail.com (Mark Pace) writes:
I had an SE many years ago that did say S-N-A as SNAH. Confused me every
time. I've never heard anyone try to say R-J-E as a word. What you you use,
reggie?
i've heard lots of SNAH ... don't remember RJE as a word ... but do
remember CRJE as as a
On 26 Jul 2010 10:39:52 -0700, ds...@hotmail.com (Dave Salt) wrote:
Most countries use hex wrenches and Torx screws (etc) for niche applications.
Robertson screws (square head) don't fill a niche, they're designed for
general
purpose, every day use. In contrast, Phillips screws ('X' head) are
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:08:20 +, Bill Fairchild wrote:
This is why I think that a VARY command
should not simply add a command to a queue for later processing but should
rather process the command immediately and fully, or at least immediately
start the
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:56:48 -0500, Brian Peterson
brian.peterson.ibm.m...@comcast.net wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:36:29 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
Several shops I have been at (including my first
exposure to MVS) had a proc called X which was a copy of DEALLOC.
The
I've heard many people say SNAH. And also Crih-gee when referring to CRJE.
Our working days would be far less fun-filled if we couldn't joke around with
acronyms or their pronunciation, inter alia. One of my favorite things to eat
is General TSO's chicken. BALR is pronounced bah-ler. STCM
No SuperHero with neither powers nor motivation.
Just a SuperSkeptic who no longer trusts in dogmatism.
I am not dogmatic, and I agree that vary processing could be MUCH smarter.
But, unfortunately, almost every SYSPROG I know uses S X to clear out the VARY
PENDING.
What can you do?
-
I'm a
You were an American then, and so were they. And you all were also North
Americans. Mexico and many other countries just south of there are also in
Central America. Simón Bolívar is attributed with saying The name of our
country is América.
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Actually, I was amazed to learn (in my late 40s) that Mexico is considered
part of *NORTH* America. Central America starts at the southern border of
Mexico. Who knew?
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com wrote:
You were an American then, and so were they. And you
And there is JAY-SILL (JCL), the first rapper control language.
Regards,
John K
From: Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com
Hello guys and gals and anyone else!
I am trying to help out a friend here, and with so many vacations in place,
don't have access to the right people with the right JCL.
Can someone help me by providing a sample batch JCL member to compile COBOL
programs using HLPI for DL/I? If I have the
De-train them that a start command is no longer necessary (see Mark Zelden's 26
Jul 2010 11:36:29 post).
Write a start command preprocessor that looks for S X and, when found, does a
WTOR that says Are You Sure and ignores all possible replies (this was a
jest).
Live with it.
-Original
- Old START DEALLOC job no longer needed to get devices processed
This is a good thing.
A better thing would be for timefinder to stop doing it.
Or, at least query the release an do it only on less than 1.7, if they're still
around.
-
I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation!
Kimota!
It is certainly no standard here.
At my shop, entering S X at the console results in:
S X
$HASP100 XON STCINRDR
*BEK452I JOB X - JOB HAD A JCL ERROR
How can you have directory entries, and no members? I can see having a huge
directory and no members, but how can you have a directory entry that doesn't
point to a member?
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Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com wrote:
And isn't the maximum size of a PDS
De-train them that a start command is no longer necessary (see Mark Zelden's
26 Jul 2010 11:36:29 post).
Having not worked in ops, since before 1.7, I missed.
But, I agree.
Write a start command preprocessor that looks for S X and, when found, does
a WTOR that says Are You Sure and ignores all
The member data is stored in the directory entry as userdata, hence no
real member data exists. TTR pointers are zero.
Regards,
John K
From: Eric Bielefeld
You all - as always - have provided wonderful history for I/O processing.
I think the use of one character procs goes back to Punch cards. Too many
holes - too little action...
However, the main question I have is - Is it still necessary to do this?
According to EMC they indicated that the
Surely no one should pay $50 for an IBM Redbook available for free from IBM.
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There are
It is still possible to build commands like: V
(,,,,,,,),OFFLINE
The start command is not needed, and should be eliminated. If there are any
developers left working on that product that know what they are doing they will
agree, at least once they know the facts.
Like all other bottom-line-oriented vendors, they probably added the S DEALLOC
years ago when varies were indeed taking up to 6 mins., then never removed it
when it no longer became necessary. It costs time and money to remove
unnecessary code (unnecessary from the functionality point of view,
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:50:20 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote:
However, the main question I have is - Is it still necessary to do this?
According to EMC they indicated that the reason they added the S DEALLOC was
because varies were taking upto 6 mins. So the use of S DEALLOC was to
speed that
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