Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:27:08 -0400 Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: or even computer science back then, There were CS departments in the late 1960's. But they weren't all offering degrees - even into the 70's. I had to do a Science degree majoring in Applied Mathematics and Computer Science

AUTO: Kirsten H Brunner/Poughkeepsie/IBM is out of the office until 03/02/2001. (returning 08/24/2011)

I am out of the office until 08/24/2011. I will check mail periodically, but if you need answers immediately, you can contact my manager, Jim Ground. Note: This is an automated response to your message IBM-MAIN Digest - 21 Aug 2011 to 22 Aug 2011 (#2011-234) sent on 8/23/2011 0:00:04. This is

Cryptography Processor

Hi, Is cryptography processor a big reason for not allowing the virus to be active in Mainframe servers ? I even understand that any program which has the capability of executing and exploiting any datasets could also be one form of virus where Racf plays a vital in restricting all the sensitive

Re: Dashboard type software for monitoring z/OS

I had an idea but I didn't perform\test it yet to perform a Monitor which is basically HTML page on you z/os HTTP server which is being update accordingly. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com wrote: Elardus Engelbrecht writes: It is meant to be used by

Re: Cryptography Processor

W dniu 2011-08-23 10:20, jagadishan perumal pisze: Hi, Is cryptography processor a big reason for not allowing the virus to be active in Mainframe servers ? I even understand that any program which has the capability of executing and exploiting any datasets could also be one form of virus where

Re: degaussed tapes

On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:50:06 -0400, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: We have a degausser (really old) and I don't know the name, model, etc. The objective is to destroy data so that it cannot be read and, no, tapes are not to be reused. This is a security measure since the data

Re: SYNC vs LINK

But bascally they perform the same functions Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:35:06 -0400 Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net wrote: :Would any one the difference between the the SYNCH LINK.

Re: Cryptography Processor

On 08/23/11 04:20, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, Is cryptography processor a big reason for not allowing the virus to be active in Mainframe servers ? I even understand that any program which has the capability of executing and exploiting any datasets could also be one form of virus where Racf

Re: SYNC vs LINK

Does that mean sync doesn't have to be associated with a CDE Sent from my iPhone On Aug 22, 2011, at 11:07 AM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 08:35:06 -0400 Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net wrote: :Would any one the difference between the the

Re: Dashboard type software for monitoring z/OS

That's essentially what we did for the missing task list when we built our Mainframe performance dashboard. Most of the data comes off from the RMF Distributed Data Server, but for missing tasks, automation periodically runs through the list of active tasks and updates an XML file with what's

Re: Cryptography Processor

Hi, with code signing, you can apply a signature to your programs. Compare chapter 10 of RACF Security Admin Guide. The signature is invalidated by any kind of modification to the program (e.g. by a virus). A program is rejected from being loaded in case an invalid signature is found.

Re: Dashboard type software for monitoring z/OS

If you have Netview, Control-O or any other automation product, you can capture start and stop messages (IEF695I/$hasp395) and send it via ip to your desktop application. ITschak On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Scott Chapman sachap...@aep.com wrote: That's essentially what we did for the

Re: SYNC vs LINK

Micheal: Yes, as I recall, SYNC (SVC 12) was designed to invoke exit routines on behalf of system routines (like OPEN, CLOSE, etc.), and therefore calls on the program by its address (found in some exit list or exit pointer), whereas LINK (SVC 6) calls out a program by name (as Binyamin

CEE0813S Insufficient Storage

All list, I am running a job and I am getting the following message. CEE0813S Insufficient storage was available to satisfy a get storage (CEECZST) request. The traceback information could not be determined. It increased the region and failed. Can anyone help me? Thanks -- Hélio

Re: degaussed tapes

-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jan MOEYERSONS On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:50:06 -0400, Crabtree, Anne D anne.d.crabt...@wv.gov wrote: We have a degausser (really old) and I don't know the name, model, etc. The objective is to destroy data so that

Re: CEE0813S Insufficient Storage

I am running a job and I am getting the following message. CEE0813S Insufficient storage was available to satisfy a get storage (CEECZST) request. The traceback information could not be determined. It increased the region and failed. Can anyone help me? Helio, Please

Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

On 23/08/2011 4:04 PM, Shane wrote: On Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:27:08 -0400 Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: or even computer science back then, There were CS departments in the late 1960's. But they weren't all offering degrees - even into the 70's. I had to do a Science degree majoring in

Post install JOB HBBN700G in Z/OS 1.12 ended with error code

Post install JOB HBBN700G in Z/OS 1.12 ServerPac orders having Z/OSMF product   ended with the following error codeIEF142I IBMUSERZ *OMVSEX - STEP WAS EXECUTED - COND CODE 0008   IEF373I STEP/*OMVSEX /START 2011235.1425    IEF032I STEP/*OMVSEX

Re: SYNC vs LINK

Does sync create a SVRB ( for the SVC only) and no RB or PRB for the program Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2011, at 7:55 AM, Mike Myers m...@mentor-services.com wrote: Micheal: Yes, as I recall, SYNC (SVC 12) was designed to invoke exit routines on behalf of system routines (like

CEE0813S Insufficient Storage

All list, I am running a job and I am getting the following message. CEE0813S Insufficient storage was available to satisfy a get storage (CEECZST) request. The traceback information could not be determined. It increased the region and failed. Can anyone help me? Thanks -- Hélio

Re: Cryptography Processor

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Michael Klaeschen michael.klaesc...@deutscherring.de wrote: with code signing, you can apply a signature to your programs. Compare chapter 10 of RACF Security Admin Guide. The signature is invalidated by any kind of modification to the program (e.g. by a virus).

Re: SYNC vs LINK

Micheal: SYNC creates a PRB for the exit (program sync'd to) to run under. SYNC itself runs under an SVRB. Imagine a sequence where a problem program issues an OPEN and has identified an OPEN exit program. The RB queue (which is a push-down stack) will look like this when the exit is

Re: Dashboard type software for monitoring z/OS

Are there any monitoring tools that can show the complete transaction life history through, for example, a zLinux WAS server into z/OS CICS/DB2/IMS etc. There seems to be a boundary where the two worlds are quite separate as far as instrumentation data. I attended to a CIM session at SHARE and

Re: Dashboard type software for monitoring z/OS

CA Wily or IBM ITCAM may help. Regards Lim ML On 23/08/11 9:19 PM, David Crayford wrote: Are there any monitoring tools that can show the complete transaction life history through, for example, a zLinux WAS server into z/OS CICS/DB2/IMS etc. There seems to be a boundary where the two worlds

Re: FW: CEE0813S Insufficient Storage

Lizette, 1)The version z/OS 1.7 2)The program is Cobol 3)It don't use inspect upper case/lower.. 4)It reads some tables DB2 and add data to a single table. The program does merge some table DB2. 5) yes I increased the region 0M, 32M, 64M and after your e-mail I use 125M and failed.

Re: FW: CEE0813S Insufficient Storage

Did you see this when googling? https://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg21002585 It talks about running out of below the line storage... Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914 ext 58292

Re: FW: CEE0813S Insufficient Storage

On 8/23/2011 8:10 AM, HELIO wrote: Lizette, 1)The version z/OS 1.7 2)The program is Cobol 3)It don't use inspect upper case/lower.. 4)It reads some tables DB2 and add data to a single table. The program does merge some table DB2. 5) yes I increased the region 0M, 32M, 64M and after your

Re: FW: CEE0813S Insufficient Storage

Lizette, 1)The version z/OS 1.7 2)The program is Cobol 3)It don't use inspect upper case/lower.. 4)It reads some tables DB2 and add data to a single table. The program does merge some table DB2. Helio, First I think z/OS V1.7 is no longer supported so depending on your level

Re: FW: CEE0813S Insufficient Storage

What changed in the program? Might it be looping recursively? Try to get a SYSMDUMP and examine things. Or use the LE option which reports. On Tue, 23 Aug 2011 11:10:24 -0300 HELIO helio.si...@rural.com.br wrote: :Lizette, : :1)The version z/OS 1.7 : :2)The program is Cobol : :3)It don't use

Re: iasxwr00

You can't seem to get that information without paying for it.. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Thomas Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: iasxwr00 Sir, Please forgive me

Re: CLOCK change problem

I thought I remembered it being there on the 138. This picture says it's from the front of one. Found it on Google images. http://www.purestockphotos.co.uk/cgi-bin/sitewise.pl?act=detpt=p=140 Bob CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The foregoing message (including attachments) is covered by the

Re: FW: CEE0813S Insufficient Storage

LE will provide storage based on the Amode of the calling program. See the Language environment documentation on how to use the CEEOPTS DD to generate a storage usage report. This will give detailed information on above and below the line storage usage by COBOL and other HLLs. On Tue, Aug 23,

Re: SYNC vs LINK

The name of the macro that generates SVC 12 is SYNCH, not SYNC. There is also a newer flavor called SYNCHX, which I believe is for doing a SYNCH in a cross-memory environment. Bill Fairchild -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf

Re: CLOCK change problem

bherr...@txfb-ins.com (Herring, Bobby) writes: TOD Clock switch AFAIK came in with the 370. I remember it specifically on the 168 my memory is iffy on the 155/158 but I think it was there, no experience on the 14X . If it was there on the 360s I never heard/saw anything about it. TOD was

Re: iasxwr00

You can't seem to get that information without paying for it.. The code that was mentioned may be proprietary, but the SAPI API is publically documented in SA22-7642 Using The Subsystem Interface. Sample code (written by Dave Danner) can be found on File 790 of the CBTTAPE. Bob Shannon

Re: SYNC vs LINK

Correction: SYNCHX is for doing a SYNCH in an AR environment. Bill Fairchild -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SYNC vs LINK The

Re: Cryptography Processor

-snip--- Is cryptography processor a big reason for not allowing the virus to be active in Mainframe servers ? I even understand that any program which has the capability of executing and exploiting any datasets could also be one form

Re: SYNC vs LINK

-snip But bascally they perform the same functions --unsnip-- In authorized code (AC=1), each has some capabilities that the other lacks. What are you doing

SYNCH[X] vs LINK[X]

Binyamin Dissen has already made the crucial point: LINK[X] specifies a name (or alias); SYNCH[X] specifies an address. An apparently not quite obvious corollary of this distinction is that LINK[X] makes a LOAD[X] available under the hood/bonnet; SYNCH[X] does not. The exit routine

CSP

Hello, I need a manual CSP, can anyone help me? att Claudio -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: CSP

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/G1433E00 On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Claudio Marcio cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I need a manual CSP, can anyone help me? att Claudio --**--**-- For

CSP

Hello, I need a manual CSP, can anyone help me? att Claudio -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: EDG6823I

Arturo, A quick use of IBMs' LookAt for your message yields the correct System Programmer Response for the message. At least 2 options to pick from depending on which piece of information on status was to be believed. See http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/lookat/ Hope that will

Re: Post install JOB HBBN700G in Z/OS 1.12 ended with error code

I used a base tape install rather than the serverpac jobs, but I suggest you check syslog for racf violations or the output of the RACFTGT job. Also, the octets on the paths involved. You can also go into OMVS and just run the sh script from there. MA

Re: SYNCH[X] vs LINK[X]

If I have a peice of code that was MVCL somewere it can'nt be the object of synch/synch Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2011, at 12:12 PM, john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com wrote: Binyamin Dissen has already made the crucial point: LINK[X] specifies a name (or alias); SYNCH[X]

Re: CSP

Hello, I need a manual CSP, can anyone help me? att Claudio Claudio, Can you tell us what CSP stands for? There are many names for CSP. By telling the full name, will help us. What product, what function? Lizette

Re: OMVS copy error - JZOS

cp with -X invokes the binder (a.k.a. the linkage editor) on z/OS Unix. It is only for copying load modules or program objects and is *very* slow doing that. For ordinary data such as a JCL member, just leave out the -X. regards, Tom On 2011-08-23 12:00 AM, IBM-MAIN automatic digest system

Re: Cryptography Processor

On 08/23/2011 05:59 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote: On 08/23/11 04:20, jagadishan perumal wrote: Hi, Is cryptography processor a big reason for not allowing the virus to be active in Mainframe servers ? I even understand that any program which has the capability of executing and exploiting any datasets

How to Find a Manual (Was: CSP and Was: Degaussed URLs)

All tempted to post requesting how to find a manual The starting point for finding very many of the official IBM manuals you may need is the following URL: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/[1] Be aware that the prompt Search - Bookshelf titles and filenames can take you into

Re: SYNCH[X] vs LINK[X]

On 8/23/2011 1:05 PM, Micheal Butz wrote: If I have a peice of code that was MVCL somewere it can'nt be the object of synch/synch OK, I'll bite - why not? Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Question about what JES2 command to use

Hi, I need to find a JES2 command that will display (list) all jobs with SYSOUT datasets directed to a specific external writer name. Is there such a beast? I have looked at various $T commands but nothing seems appropriate. Thanks Craig Dudley

Re: CSP

Hi, There is a program language used for mainframe called CSP, is what I want. att Claudio - Original Message - From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:15 PM Subject: Re: CSP

Re: SYNCH[X] vs LINK[X]

In a earlier post John Gilmore wrote as long as the copy is refershable reusable the Info is kept in the CDE Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote: On 8/23/2011 1:05 PM, Micheal Butz wrote: If I have a peice of code that was MVCL

Re: Question about what JES2 command to use

I believe something along the lines of $DO JOBQ W=writer-name -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Craig's Listserve account Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Question about what JES2

Re: SYNCH[X] vs LINK[X]

The is nothing about MVCL that violates refresh/reuse -ability. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Micheal Butz Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:10

Re: Question about what JES2 command to use

Hi Craig, $T is a set command.  For display, you would be looking for $D.  This would be easier under SDSF, especially if there are a lot of jobs using that same writer.  You can fil ter your display o r you can sort  by wtr. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Craig's

Re: SYNCH[X] vs LINK[X]

On 8/23/2011 3:10 PM, Micheal Butz wrote: On Aug 23, 2011, at 2:47 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote: On 8/23/2011 1:05 PM, Micheal Butz wrote: If I have a peice of code that was MVCL somewere it can'nt be the object of synch/synch OK, I'll bite - why not? In a earlier post

Re: Question about what JES2 command to use

$T is a set command.  For display, you would be looking for $D.  This would be easier under SDSF, especially if there are a lot of jobs using that same writer.  You can fil ter your display o r you can sort  by wtr. Unless things have changed, $T is not always just SET. $TN is/was used to

Re: How to Find a Manual (Was: CSP and Was: Degaussed URLs)

Chris, Your post came at an opportune time. I normally use the DVD set that I have for z/OS 1.9 when I need an IBM book, but now I need a couple of books for z/OS 1.11. Now I have the site bookmarked, so I won't lose it. -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Chris Mason

Re: CSP

Google - ibm cross system product Hopefully that will get you what you need. That product has been out of support for a long time. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Claudio Marcio cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There is a program language used for mainframe called CSP, is what I want. att

Re: CSP

For reasons even I don't understand, we still use CSP here. It continues to work under the latest z/OS release, although we have to use a saved copy of 1.7 SCEERUN library because we couldn't compile under 1.8. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team

Re: Naive BCPii questions

The constants that were listed by Walt in the System z API manual are shipped with z/OS BCPii as 2 include files. SYS1.SIEAHDRV.H(HWIZHAPI) contains these constants in the C programming language and SYS1.MACLIB(HWIC2ASM) contains the same constants for Assembler (as Jack so aptly mentioned).

Re: CSP

Same here. We have one customer who did not follow the recommended migration(s) to VAG and then EGL. CSP continues to work, but as Skip said we have to keep our old 1.7 SCEERUN library. Now there is no direct migration to EGL, so the customer is engaged with IBM to get some professional

Re: SYNCH[X] vs LINK[X]

I did not of course say that SYNCH[X] had anything to do with CDEs, or vice versa. I did not even mention CDEs explicitly. What I said was that the LOAD[X] implicit in LINK[X] is a virtual one if the load module or program object nominated is 1) already resident and 2) known to be reentrant

Re: SYNCH[X] vs LINK[X]

Relocation of AD-con values? Rick -- Gibney, Dave wrote: The is nothing about MVCL that violates refresh/reuse -ability. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: SYNCH[X] vs LINK[X]

Perhaps a little OT but ... especially if you were developing a utility, product, component, sub-system ... blah .. blah, I've always been a proponent of having most all, if not all, ADCON's ( and even VCON's) in a separate module by itself. This would in turn and in the long run, eliminate

Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

In 025301cc6134$b9c39ca0$2d4ad5e0$@us, on 08/22/2011 at 08:33 PM, Jim Thomas j...@thethomasresidence.us said: Don't know about the first HTTP server Mainframe, at CERN as I recall. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

In 4e539fcf.2020...@gmail.com, on 08/23/2011 at 08:40 PM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com said: Wow! At least UWA could afford a PDP-11 ;-) The CDC was a mainframe, and fairly fast for its day; basically a 6600 without all of the parallelism. A much more powerful machine that the DEC

Re: SYNC vs LINK

In 802b0366-bddf-4aae-b132-840ade71b...@optonline.net, on 08/23/2011 at 07:03 AM, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net said: Does that mean sync doesn't have to be associated with a CDE No. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: SYNC vs LINK

In 4e53953e.6090...@mentor-services.com, on 08/23/2011 at 07:55 AM, Mike Myers m...@mentor-services.com said: Yes, No. Yes, as I recall, SYNC (SVC 12) was designed to invoke exit routines on behalf of system routines (like OPEN, CLOSE, etc.), and therefore calls on the program by its

Re: SYNC vs LINK

In 21e30347-dc2b-4aec-acc5-d00b2ae9d...@optonline.net, on 08/23/2011 at 08:58 AM, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net said: Does sync create a SVRB ( for the SVC only) and no RB or PRB for the program No. SYNCH creates a PRB and adds it to the RB list; EXIT (SVC 3) removes the SVRB for

Re: SYNC vs LINK

In 4e53a773.3020...@mentor-services.com, on 08/23/2011 at 09:13 AM, Mike Myers m...@mentor-services.com said: Imagine a sequence where a problem program issues an OPEN and has identified an OPEN exit program. The RB queue (which is a push-down stack) will look like this when the exit is

Re: SYNCH[X] vs LINK[X]

In snt113-w1bb5fda98f56435233d23c6...@phx.gbl, on 08/23/2011 at 04:12 PM, john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com said: An apparently not quite obvious corollary of this distinction is that LINK[X] makes a LOAD[X] available under the hood/bonnet; SYNCH[X] does not. Not quite. LINK creates a PRB

Re: CLOCK change problem

In 1314066987.61701.yahoomailmob...@web161424.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, on 08/22/2011 at 07:36 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com said: If it was there on the 360#39;s I never heard/saw anything about it. There was no TOD clock on the S/360, hence no need to enable setting it. -- Shmuel (Seymour

Re: CLOCK change problem

In 025201cc6133$a6310ac0$f2932040$@us, on 08/22/2011 at 08:26 PM, Jim Thomas j...@thethomasresidence.us said: I started off on the HDW side from the 360's It didn't exist on the 360. I do fully remember a 'green' switch that had to be enabled to 'change' the time Called something like

Re: CLOCK change problem

In m339gsf99o@garlic.com, on 08/23/2011 at 11:16 AM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said: lower-end 360s would update location 80 appox. every 3mills No. From S/360 PoOps: Timer feature The timer is provided as an interval timer and may be programmed to maintain the time of day.

Re: SYNCH[X] vs LINK[X]

In 94b72b86-ba72-48a9-9878-fd8a90610...@optonline.net, on 08/23/2011 at 01:05 PM, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net said: If I have a peice of code that was MVCL somewere it can'nt be the object of synch/synch What gives you that idea? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and

Re: CSP

In 03bf01cc61b8$415814b0$c4083e10$@mindspring.com, on 08/23/2011 at 01:15 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com said: Can you tell us what CSP stands for? Presumably Cross System Product, which used to be part of SAA. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: CLOCK change problem

re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#27 CLOCK change problem 32bit value with 15hr duration ... different models decrement bits depending on timer resolution of the model. re: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/funcChar/GA24-3231-7_360-30_funcChar.pdf pg. 29, Interval Timer The Model

SYNCH[X] vs LINKX]

Seymour's most recent comments in this thread are not up to his usual standard. He is quote right that a [loaded] in-storage module having a use count of 0 will be used. His other comments were once correct but are now obsolete, except for those who continue to use the old linkage editor

Re: Security is fun in the PC world....

LOL .. Nah mate .. too lazy to want to do some hard work. Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz [mailto:shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net] Sent: