Re: Spam alert: Model9

2018-09-13 Thread Windt, W.K.F. van der (Fred)
Yep, same here: received the newsletter without ever having even heard of these guys. > Out of the blue (no pun intended), I received an e-mail newsletter digest > from Model9 "because you are subscribed to Marketing Information from > Model9". (I note that they don't say I *did* subscribe, just

Spam alert: Model9

2018-09-13 Thread Arthur
Out of the blue (no pun intended), I received an e-mail newsletter digest from Model9 "because you are subscribed to Marketing Information from Model9". (I note that they don't say I *did* subscribe, just that I *am* subscribed.) This came to the edress I use *only* for IBM Main, so I expect

Re: Co-posted: Rexx performance measures

2018-09-13 Thread David Crayford
Wow, that's interesting! It runs in 1.861138 cpu seconds on our z13s. We have 800mips sliced up between 3 cores so 266mips per core. So your zPDT core which is running emulated is faster at running REXX than our z13s! Can that be right? No wonder IBM limit the zPDT to 1 core imagine what

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Doug
Maybe I missed a post but, what ‘VTL’ are you running? IBM has a feature code that a CE can order that will do a data erase on the library, cache and disk. The physical backend tapes would need to be certified destroyed. Iron Mountain can do that for you. Just my 2 cents Doug . On Sep 13,

Re: IBM Z and cloud

2018-09-13 Thread Phil Smith III
Well, I appreciate the answers thus far, but they're vague and platitudinous. Sure, an application on Z should often stay on Z, but that's not what anybody means by "cloud". In fact, given that the vast majority of application environments are not on Z, saying "stay on " is, if anything, an

Re: Task level ACEE vs. task-level JSAB

2018-09-13 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2018-09-13 20:27, Ed Jaffe wrote: A TCB-level JSAB is created *only* in those rare cases in which the application wishes to generate spin-off output -- usually with jobname/jobid that doesn't match the parent address space. The only IBM exploiters I can think of right now are APPC/MVS and

Re: TOD clock values, leap seconds and BLSUXTOD conversion service

2018-09-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 20:00:25 -0400, George Kozakos wrote: > >The TOD clock value CF2D 54B4 FBA8 for July 1st, 2015 assuming >26 leap seconds are specified is correct: > >IP LTOD CF2D54B4FBA8 returns >07/01/2015 00:00:26.00 STCK X'CF2D54B4 FBA8' > >The PoP has been now updated

Re: IBM Z and cloud

2018-09-13 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 13 Sep 2018 13:45:20 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main sme...@gmu.edu (Seymour J Metz) wrote: >The whole cloud thing is just hype. It's just time sharing with the serial >number filed off. > >> but I'm stumped as to what it is about the mainframe that makes it so >> wonderful for

Re: Task level ACEE vs. task-level JSAB

2018-09-13 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/13/2018 5:09 PM, Gord Tomlin wrote: IAZXJSAB is a nice one-stop-shopping interface for several bits of information, but only if the information can be trusted. Is the system working as designed if a TCB level ACEE is set up but a TCB level JSAB is not? Whose responsibility is it to build

Task level ACEE vs. task-level JSAB

2018-09-13 Thread Gord Tomlin
I have recently been investigating a situation where a product (not ours) issues: RACROUTE USERID=(R2),PASSCHK=NO,ENVIR=CREATE,REQUEST=VERIFY to establish a different identity for a TCB. A GTF trace shows that a TCB level ACEE is set up as a result, but a TCB level JSAB is not set up.

Re: TOD clock values, leap seconds and BLSUXTOD conversion service

2018-09-13 Thread George Kozakos
> If I take the value for July 1st, 2015 from the PoP table and > subtract the equivalent of one second I understand this is the TOD > value for June 30 23:59:60. Am I mixing up things? The TOD clock values given in the PoPs correspond to a UTC time of 00:00:00 on the specified date assuming leap

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Mike Schwab
Once all the tapes are deleted by writing to all 50K, you just have to write as many volumes as needed to fill VTS. The large the dataset, the fewer the volumes. On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 2:52 PM George Rodriguez <016eebd7289b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > That's a big order. There

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Mike Schwab
We had 30K free of 500K tapes. 288TB. On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 2:52 PM George Rodriguez <016eebd7289b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > That's a big order. There are 50,000 virtual tapes defined in the system... > WOW! > > *George Rodriguez* > > *Specialist II - IT Security* > *PX -

Re: ÝEXTERNAL¨ Re: Report volumes with IPLText

2018-09-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
That's for z/OS; what about s/a dump for other operating systems? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jim Mulder Sent: Monday, September 10, 2018 5:18 PM To:

Re: Db2 AI: Another Great Reason for Machine Learning on z/OS

2018-09-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
AI is passé; what's in now is artificial stupidity. Take web design - please! -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Timothy Sipples Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 2:17 AM To:

Re: TOD clock values, leap seconds and BLSUXTOD conversion service

2018-09-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 23:18:11 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: > ... >It is not reading the clock, it is reading a value in the clock format. In my >code where the clock value will be logged, it is adjusted before being stored. > JM>and does not attempt to account for time zones or leap seconds.

Re: IBM Z and cloud

2018-09-13 Thread Seymour J Metz
The whole cloud thing is just hype. It's just time sharing with the serial number filed off. > but I'm stumped as to what it is about the mainframe that makes it so > wonderful for cloud. Well, a half century of experience with virtualization doesn't hurt. > * Mainframe MIPS are more

Re: TOD clock values, leap seconds and BLSUXTOD conversion service

2018-09-13 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 13:31:16 -0500 Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: :>On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 17:39:53 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: :>>As this is part of the IPCS service, one wonders how it could determine the :>>TOD adjustment values for specified value.

Re: IBM Z and cloud

2018-09-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2018-09-13 o 20:19, Phil Smith III pisze: I keep seeing things like a mailing today, "Mainframes and the Cloud: Made for Each Other". I'm as big a fan of IBM Z as the next guy, but I'm stumped as to what it is about the mainframe that makes it so wonderful for cloud. What it see:

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Andrew Arentsen
Not sure if this is an option for you but if the VTL encrypted the data on disk, securely wiping the encryption keys would render all data wiped. Andrew Arentsen From: "John McKown" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 09/13/2018 03:11 PM Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: Yet Another

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 2:52 PM George Rodriguez < 016eebd7289b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > That's a big order. There are 50,000 virtual tapes defined in the system... > WOW! > Depending on the connection technology of the disks, you might be able to remove them from the VTL,

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread George Rodriguez
That's a big order. There are 50,000 virtual tapes defined in the system... WOW! *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Security* *PX - 47652* *(561) 357-7652 (office)* *(954) 415-7586 (mobile)* *School District of Palm Beach County* *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.* *Room B-332* *West Palm Beach, FL.

Re: Spectre/Meltdown APAR - OA54807

2018-09-13 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 09:21:39 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >I do think IBM needs to somehow better accommodate ISVs. My understanding is >that "you have to own a real mainframe" to get access to the security >portal. Thus ISVs who own only zPDTs or who rent time at Dallas do not >qualify. I

Re: Co-posted: Rexx performance measures

2018-09-13 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Hi David, Happy to inform that it work just fine. Thanks. BTW, it took only 1.385268 cpu seconds on our machine, a zPdt, one CPU. Tx again, ITschak On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 1:22 PM ITschak Mugzach wrote: > Tx. Will report findings today. > > ITschak > > בתאריך יום ה׳, 13 בספט׳ 2018, 13:05,

Re: TOD clock values, leap seconds and BLSUXTOD conversion service

2018-09-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 17:39:53 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: >As this is part of the IPCS service, one wonders how it could determine the >TOD adjustment values for specified value. > See: https://www.iana.org/time-zones On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 10:41:30 -0400, Jim Mulder wrote: > BLSUXTOD does not

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Mike Schwab
Overwrite each tape with a one track dataset of low values. Then overwrite tapes with a very large dataset of low values until VTS is full. Repeat one track / large datasets with high values and b'01010101'. Repeat the 3 cycles until desired number of overwrites are accomplished. On Thu, Sep 13,

IBM Z and cloud

2018-09-13 Thread Phil Smith III
I keep seeing things like a mailing today, "Mainframes and the Cloud: Made for Each Other". I'm as big a fan of IBM Z as the next guy, but I'm stumped as to what it is about the mainframe that makes it so wonderful for cloud. What it see: * IBM Z storage is more expensive *

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread George Rodriguez
There's a whole lot of datasets to go through to do the ERASE function. Since the hardware maintenance was contracted out to SMS, yes I've asked the question and they just notified me that they pushed the question up to there support team. Physical destruction was an option we considered, but

Re: COPYPAX REXX exec problem

2018-09-13 Thread Carmen Vitullo
does this work better than the pax command? - this has been working for me very well for getting new updates to my etc filesystem. 6.4) Issue the pax command to copy new members from this location to the new /etc filesystem : pax -rwkv -p e . /Service/TST1/etc Description of syntax: pax

Re: Few questions about HMC

2018-09-13 Thread Tom Mathias
Thank you for your positive feedback. Both in liking many of the new improvements in 2.14 and in reporting your success using FTP. I don't have an official recommendation. But, in my personal opinion, I don't think you need to disable or delete the IBM-supplied userids on the SE or the HMC.

COPYPAX REXX exec problem

2018-09-13 Thread Dave Myers
I am trying to use the COPYPAX exec to COPY/NOREPLACE a zOS 2.1 /etc into a zOS 2.3. It is ending with a RC=1 and there are subdirs and files that are not getting copied. Getting this error and don't know why. 10:54:36: Verifying existence of source directory /SYSTEM/etc... 10:54:36:

Re: Spectre/Meltdown APAR - OA54807

2018-09-13 Thread Charles Mills
I have been asked to clarify "grumbling." Honestly, I meant exactly what I said in an engineer-literal sense. If you are grumbling you are not alone. I can name two other people who have grumbled semi-publicly about IBM's approach. I am personally of two minds. I buy into the "modern, UNIX"

Re: Few questions about HMC

2018-09-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2018-09-12 o 19:13, Tom Mathias pisze: With the HMC 2.14 level, all FTP (and FTPS/SFTP) operations that originate in the SE really proxy thru an HMC. The HMC must have the SE defined into it and it. This means that uou need to make sure that at least one HMC can get to the FTP server

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Sep 13, 2018, at 10:16 AM, George Rodriguez <016eebd7289b-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I was wondering if any member the listserve can help me with "wiping out" > out VTL. Any help will be greatly appreciated. > Physical destruction of the media always works. -- Pew,

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:16:03 -0400, George Rodriguez wrote: >The School District of Palm Beach County is finally shutting down the IBM >z10 and all its components. I'm sorry to hear that. >I was wondering if any member the listserve can help me with "wiping out" >out VTL. Any help will be

Re: Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread Burrell, Todd
Not sure if turning on ERASE on SCRATCH in RACF - and then deleting the datasets would work? Just a thought? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of George Rodriguez Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 11:16 AM To:

Re: Installing zOS from scratch experience

2018-09-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2018-09-13 o 14:26, Knutson, Samuel pisze: ZZSA Standalone utilities also support IPL from CD/DVD and reviewing what Jan did is helpful to understand http://www.cbttape.org/~jjaeger/ Yes, also z/VM installation or zLinux. What's interesting *in this context* is ability to restore full

Yet Another Mainframe z10 Bites the Dust!

2018-09-13 Thread George Rodriguez
The School District of Palm Beach County is finally shutting down the IBM z10 and all its components. I was wondering if any member the listserve can help me with "wiping out" out VTL. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! *George Rodriguez* *Specialist II - IT Security* *PX - 47652*

Re: Strange JES2 SPOOL Offload issue

2018-09-13 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I think you and Elardus nailed it Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Dana Mitchell" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:27:32 AM Subject: Re: Strange JES2 SPOOL Offload issue Specifying a minus sign (-) before a criterion causes that

Re: TOD clock values, leap seconds and BLSUXTOD conversion service

2018-09-13 Thread Jim Mulder
BLSUXTOD does not know the context of the TOD clock value you are passing, and does not attempt to account for time zones or leap seconds. When you use BLSUXTOD, you are expected to any adjustments of interest to you before calling BLSUXTOD. Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development,

Re: TOD clock values, leap seconds and BLSUXTOD conversion service

2018-09-13 Thread Binyamin Dissen
As this is part of the IPCS service, one wonders how it could determine the TOD adjustment values for specified value. On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:59:40 +0200 Peter Hunkeler wrote: :>So this is the first time I really care for leap seconds. I need a conversion from TOD clock value to readable

Re: Strange JES2 SPOOL Offload issue

2018-09-13 Thread Burrell, Todd
Well Dana wins the prize - this was something I definitely did not know, but once I remove the criteria the offloads both started. This is why I love this forum! Thanks for the help. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On

Re: Strange JES2 SPOOL Offload issue

2018-09-13 Thread Carmen Vitullo
how about the dsn and volume definitions for OFFLOAD2 ? unit valid? dsn valid? what do you see in the log when you start the offload? anything? Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Todd Burrell" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 9:21:09 AM

Re: Strange JES2 SPOOL Offload issue

2018-09-13 Thread Dana Mitchell
Specifying a minus sign (-) before a criterion causes that criterion to be removed from the list. $TOFF1.ST,WS=(/) $HASP886 OFF1.ST 969 $HASP886 OFF1.ST STATUS=STARTABLE,CREATOR=,DISP=DELETE,

Re: Strange JES2 SPOOL Offload issue

2018-09-13 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Todd Burrell wrote: >OFF2.ST STATUS=INACTIVE,CREATOR=,DISP=KEEP, > OUTDISP=(WRITE,HOLD,KEEP),HOLD=, > JOBNAME=,NOTIFY=NO,RANGE=(J1,99), > ROUTECDE=(),START=YES,VOLUME=(,,,), > WS=(OUTD,Q/),BURST=,FCB=,FLASH=, >

Re: TOD clock values, leap seconds and BLSUXTOD conversion service

2018-09-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:59:40 +0200, Peter Hunkeler wrote: >So this is the first time I really care for leap seconds. I need a conversion >from TOD clock value to readable format in REXX. Found the BLSUXTOD service. >Works nice. so far so good. > >The PoP has a table of TOD clock values taking

Re: Strange JES2 SPOOL Offload issue

2018-09-13 Thread Burrell, Todd
I did a $SOFFLOAD2,TYPE=TRANSMIT and it started fine. Both OFF2.JT and OFF2.ST show INACTIVE? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Strange JES2 SPOOL Offload issue

2018-09-13 Thread Carmen Vitullo
offload2 not started? my display shows OFFLOAD1 DRAINED OFF1.JT STARTABLE OFF1.ST STARTABLE OFF1.JR STARTABLE OFF1.SR STARTABLE OFFLOAD1 DRAINED OFF1.JT STARTABLE OFF1.ST STARTABLE OFF1.JR STARTABLE OFF1.SR STARTABLE z/OS 2.2 at RSU10805 Carmen Vitullo

Re: Strange JES2 SPOOL Offload issue

2018-09-13 Thread Rob Schramm
Exit? Security package? Those come to mind. Rob Schramm On Thu, Sep 13, 2018, 10:06 AM Todd Burrell wrote: > I'm playing around with JES2 SPOOL OFFLOAD on our test system and I want > to be able to try and offload everything from the spool to test out > timing. I have changed both of my

Strange JES2 SPOOL Offload issue

2018-09-13 Thread Todd Burrell
I'm playing around with JES2 SPOOL OFFLOAD on our test system and I want to be able to try and offload everything from the spool to test out timing. I have changed both of my transmitters to have DISP=KEEP to make the offload no-destructive. However, once I start the offload it does not

TOD clock values, leap seconds and BLSUXTOD conversion service

2018-09-13 Thread Peter Hunkeler
So this is the first time I really care for leap seconds. I need a conversion from TOD clock value to readable format in REXX. Found the BLSUXTOD service. Works nice. so far so good. The PoP has a table of TOD clock values taking care of the 26 leap seconds inserted so far. The last one was

Re: Installing zOS from scratch experience

2018-09-13 Thread Knutson, Samuel
ZZSA Standalone utilities also support IPL from CD/DVD and reviewing what Jan did is helpful to understand http://www.cbttape.org/~jjaeger/ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 12:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Co-posted: Rexx performance measures

2018-09-13 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Tx. Will report findings today. ITschak בתאריך יום ה׳, 13 בספט׳ 2018, 13:05, מאת David Crayford ‏< dcrayf...@gmail.com>: > I didn't try it with System REXX as I don't have access to that. Let us > know how you go. > > > On 13/09/2018 4:58 PM, ITschak Mugzach wrote: > > Thanks David. > > > > Did

Re: Co-posted: Rexx performance measures

2018-09-13 Thread David Crayford
I didn't try it with System REXX as I don't have access to that. Let us know how you go. On 13/09/2018 4:58 PM, ITschak Mugzach wrote: Thanks David. Did u try this under SysremRexx? I'll try it tonight. ITSCHAK בתאריך יום ה׳, 13 בספט׳ 2018, 11:44, מאת David Crayford ‏<

Re: Co-posted: Rexx performance measures

2018-09-13 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Thanks David. Did u try this under SysremRexx? I'll try it tonight. ITSCHAK בתאריך יום ה׳, 13 בספט׳ 2018, 11:44, מאת David Crayford ‏< dcrayf...@gmail.com>: > In the meantime you can do a quick and dirty using TCBTTIME > > /* REXX */ > > main: >start = cputime() >do i = 1 to 100 >

Re: Co-posted: Rexx performance measures

2018-09-13 Thread David Crayford
In the meantime you can do a quick and dirty using TCBTTIME /* REXX */ main:   start = cputime()   do i = 1 to 100     nop   end   say 'CPU time:' cputime() - start   exit cputime:   cvt   = ptr(16)   tcbp  = ptr(cvt)   tcb   = ptr(tcbp + 4)   tcbttime  = stg(tcb + 316, 8)  

Re: Search for utility

2018-09-13 Thread Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services)
Classification: Public Couldn't they just use standard SRCHFOR (=3.15), select all the members with S *, and then unselect the ones they don't want? Andy Styles z/Series System Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf

Re: Search for utility

2018-09-13 Thread Sebastian Welton
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 18:52:30 +, McCabe, Ron wrote: >Hello, > >Question from our developers...is there an easy way to search for a string in >all COBOL programs except for 1 or 2? So what they would like to do is search >for a string in all but 1 or 2 of the COBOL programs in a PDS and

Re: How to delete strange files on dasd

2018-09-13 Thread Richard Rogers
Does IEHPROGM still support SCRATCH VOL=devtype=volser,SYS to scratch temporary data sets? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Godfrey Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 15:32 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to delete strange files on