Re: Batch job elapsed time baseline and alerts

2022-02-16 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
TWS (Tivoli Workload Scheduler) has the long running job alerts. It is apparently quite resource hungry. That's the reason I developed my REXX/SDSF code and the automation guys said it did the job fine. On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 3:03 PM Michael Brennan wrote: > Some scheduling products have

Re: Batch job elapsed time baseline and alerts

2022-02-16 Thread Michael Brennan
Some scheduling products have this built in. Will do some type of alert when a job is running late. Can not remember which one has this capability. On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 10:19 AM Jantje. < 033acf17e42f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Esteemed listers, > > I have been tasked to

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2022-02-16 22:21 PM, Lance D. Jackson wrote: I thought you guys were asked to take this offline? +1. Enough is enough. -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel: (905) 470-7113, Fax: (905) 470-6507 Support:

Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

2022-02-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:36:48 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: X. = "Preset" DROP X.42 Null = '' X.Null = "Empty!" call SysDumpVariables Name=X., Value='Empty!' Name=FOO, Value='123,456.78' ... So it doesn't tell you that X.41 is defined but X.42 is undefined. Bummer. How does it report

Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

2022-02-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 02:44:51 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >That sounds interesting, but if it is tied to ISPF I would much prefer >something that works in vanilla batch. My immediate need is batch Rexx >executed from plain unadorned IKFEFT01, so TSO Rexx facilities are available >but

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Lance D. Jackson
I thought you guys were asked to take this offline? > On 16 February 2022 19:41 Bill Johnson > <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > Lol, earnings and profits are the same. Do you even know what EBITDA is? > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Wednesday,

Re: Batch job elapsed time baseline and alerts

2022-02-16 Thread Tim Hare
With "several hundreds if not thousands jobs running at any give time" you must be using an automated job scheduler of some sort. Does your scheduler maintain 'average run time' in its database? Does the scheduler itself, allow notification if that average time is exceeded? If not - you can

Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

2022-02-16 Thread David Spiegel
Hi W M, I'm interested. da...@ddstar.com Thanks and regards, David On 2022-02-16 20:38, W Mainframe wrote: Hey,Provide me your email and I will send a routine to list  rexx variables. In my routine you will be able to search variables current rexx pool showing the result in sysout or you can

Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

2022-02-16 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
That sounds interesting, but if it is tied to ISPF I would much prefer something that works in vanilla batch. My immediate need is batch Rexx executed from plain unadorned IKFEFT01, so TSO Rexx facilities are available but not ISPF. It used to be that our actual email addresses showed in the

Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

2022-02-16 Thread W Mainframe
Hey,Provide me your email and I will send a routine to list  rexx variables. In my routine you will be able to search variables current rexx pool showing the result in sysout or you can start a panel showing a browse of these variables to checking or updating.Dan Sent from Yahoo Mail for

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Bill Johnson
Profits and earnings are often used interchangeably Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, February 16, 2022, 7:32 PM, Joe Monk wrote: " Profits are what drives stock prices"... Jeebus. Earnings, not profit, are what drives stock prices. Thats why we have EBITDA... Joe On Wed, Feb

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Bill Johnson
Lol, earnings and profits are the same. Do you even know what EBITDA is? Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, February 16, 2022, 7:32 PM, Joe Monk wrote: " Profits are what drives stock prices"... Jeebus. Earnings, not profit, are what drives stock prices. Thats why we have

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Bill Johnson
Nope. The very definition of profit is this. a financial gain, especially the difference between the amount earned and the amount spent in buying, operating, or producing something. Loss isn’t a financial gain. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, February 16, 2022, 7:30 PM, Joe

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Joe Monk
" Profits are what drives stock prices"... Jeebus. Earnings, not profit, are what drives stock prices. Thats why we have EBITDA... Joe On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 6:17 PM David Crayford wrote: > On 16/2/22 10:22 pm, Bill Johnson wrote: > > LOLOLOLOL, what does that even mean? Uber is a prime

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Bill Johnson
Companies charge less than cost all the time in America. When I worked in retail, we would put shave cream on sale below cost, knowing that most shaving cream buyers would also buy blades, razors, and face moisturizers at inflated prices. Had a whole group dedicated to what we called “Market

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Joe Monk
Mmm hmmm so, if the costs exceed the profit, then thats negative profit, regardless of the name. Joe On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 5:38 PM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Called a loss. In fact loss leader. Not a profit leader. Yes, I spent lots > of time

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread David Crayford
On 16/2/22 10:22 pm, Bill Johnson wrote: LOLOLOLOL, what does that even mean? Uber is a prime example of NEGATIVE cash flow. They’ve NEVER turned a profit to date & their negative cash flow has been in the billions since they went public in 2019. Explains why the stock is significantly below

Re: UIDs on the SDSF PS command

2022-02-16 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 16/02/2022 12:00 am, Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw wrote: This will prove to be a real boon in my current task. I am working to reduce the use of UID(0) and document the reasons for all the remaining uses. This display gives all I need on a single line. Brilliant! SMF data is also a useful

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
works fine for the much neglected REXX/CICS too. REXX/CICS also has online help: 14.3.50 USERID ___ ++ | | | >>--USERID()>< | | |

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Mike Schwab
Under WTO rules, illegal to charge less for a product than its actual cost. On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 11:38 PM Bill Johnson <0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Called a loss. In fact loss leader. Not a profit leader. Yes, I spent lots of > time in retail. > > > Sent from

Re: Free SMPE installation product

2022-02-16 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Ignore my ramblings. My TYPO ! On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 10:50 AM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > This is a quite a good SMPE installation. Quite complete and ALMOST works > out of the box. > > I had a parmlib error after IPL with a new file system. Stared at this for > a while: > > MOUNT

Re: Free SMPE installation product

2022-02-16 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
This is a quite a good SMPE installation. Quite complete and ALMOST works out of the box. I had a parmlib error after IPL with a new file system. Stared at this for a while: MOUNT FILESYSTEM('#dsn') MOUNTPOINT('/usr/lpp/zowe') MODE(RDWR) /* can be MODE(READ) */ TYPE(ZFS) PARM('AGGRGROW') /* zFS,

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Charles Mills
If you are subject to PCI DSS then you have PCI DSS audits (and no, I am not an expert on the details). Like any other audit standard -- maybe they catch you and maybe they don't. My *perception* is that the standard is aimed at a situation you may have seen: a retail store or similar that has

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Bill Johnson
Called a loss. In fact loss leader. Not a profit leader. Yes, I spent lots of time in retail.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, February 16, 2022, 4:34 PM, Joe Monk wrote: Of course profits can be negative... Have you never heard of a loss leader? An item sold below cost

Re: RFE for DSCLI for z/VM (and z/OS)

2022-02-16 Thread Tom Brennan
DSCLI in DOS on Windows is certainly a hassle, and typing the commands into the CLI web page on a DS8000 GUI is certainly no better. Have you tried the (maybe relatively new?) file-folder icon on the DS8000 CLI screen that lets you upload a file of CLI commands for execution? That's what

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Pommier, Rex
It probably is but PCI DSS is a standard. How does one electronically enforce it? My security team can have everybody sign a statement saying they won't share their ID/password with their buddy at the next desk but that won't physically stop them. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Charles Mills
Prohibited by PCI DSS, is it not? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 2:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX Two

Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Bob Bridges
Two ~humans~ can use the same ID. But RACF cannot prohibit that, for RACF can never know it. For most purposes the security folks should prohibit it, if they're allowed to. But I suppose there may be cases where it's not the worst thing in the world...very ~rare~ cases. --- Bob Bridges,

Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Steve Smith
Ooops. OK, I have no excuse. I just missed it. Thank-you to all who provided answers. sas On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 4:48 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > REXX is packaged with TSO/E even though there are non-TSO environments, > and the USERID() function is listed in the section on built-in

Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
REXX is packaged with TSO/E even though there are non-TSO environments, and the USERID() function is listed in the section on built-in functions, not in TSO/E external functions. SYSVAR(SYSUID) is only for TSO. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on

Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 21:25:23 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >It would definitely be more fun if two different users had the same UID. > RACF should prohibit that. That's what group IDs are for. That's what BPX.SUPERUSER is for. What if two different users had the same TSO ID? (It's done;

Fwd: Vendors are Fixing Security Flaws Faster

2022-02-16 Thread Mark Regan
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2022/02/vendors-are-fixing-security-flaws-faster.html Mark Regan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

2022-02-16 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks Lionel, I will check that out. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lionel B. Dyck Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 12:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging? The only thing that comes to

Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

2022-02-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
... rexxtry.rex on WindowsNT X. = "Preset" ... rexxtry.rex on WindowsNT DROP X.42 ... rexxtry.rex on WindowsNT Null = '' ...

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Joe Monk
Of course profits can be negative... Have you never heard of a loss leader? An item sold below cost generates a negative profit. Joe On Wed, Feb 16, 2022, 09:03 Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Profits can’t be negative unless the company is fraudulently

Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Steve Smith
Well, I do RTFM, but I haven't yet managed to read every chapter of every manual. I missed the USERID() function; probably because I need a non-TSO function, so I didn't scrutinize the TSO list (and I may have assumed that since it was provided by SYSVAR, looking for a different way to do it on

Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
It would definitely be more fun if two different users had the same UID. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin

Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Charles Mills
I plead guilty. I did not have the docs in front of me. I do not have memorized what is TSO-only and what is not. He implied there was no function available so I pitched in to help. Feel free to ignore my advice. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: IKE negotiation failure --- and how to correct it?

2022-02-16 Thread Tom Longfellow
I know it is bad form to reply to your own posts BUT -- I had to share the Joy. SUCCESS. My IKE exchange problems are now reseolved. "How did I do it?" you might ask. Well - I went back to my preschool skills and my hours of watching Sesame Street. After playing "one of things is not like

Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 12:42:13 -0800, Ed Jaffe wrote: >On 2/16/2022 11:11 AM, Steve Smith wrote: >> Is there any way to obtain the userid (user name) in REXX running in a >> non-TSO environment? I know that sysvar does not work in USS, IRXJCL, or >> System REXX TSO=NO. Whereas mvsvar does (go

Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
Because they didn't RTFM. Which leaves the question of why they didn't read it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin

Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/16/2022 11:11 AM, Steve Smith wrote: Is there any way to obtain the userid (user name) in REXX running in a non-TSO environment? I know that sysvar does not work in USS, IRXJCL, or System REXX TSO=NO. Whereas mvsvar does (go figure). It's so fundamental that I think I can't be the first

Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

2022-02-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 17:50:32 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >It reports the compound variable but not the stem. > How does it report the DROPped member? How does it report the member with the null string tail? From: Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 12:30 PM For complete

Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 14:11:06 -0500, Steve Smith wrote: >Is there any way to obtain the userid (user name) in REXX running in a >non-TSO environment? I know that sysvar does not work in USS, IRXJCL, or >System REXX TSO=NO. Whereas mvsvar does (go figure). It's so fundamental >that I think I

Re: More z/OS and LinuxONE on IBM Cloud, Including On-Demand z/OS

2022-02-16 Thread zMan
On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 2:17 AM Timothy Sipples wrote: > Wazi happens to be the Swahili word for open. Conveniently it happens to > have the voiced letter Z in it. > Well, that was lucky! But how did they choose the name? Oh, wait, you're suggesting that the name was chosen BECAUSE it's Swahili

Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Mike Shaw
This assembler sequence does it by capturing the 8-byte TSO/E userid from the JSAB; you could use the REXX STORAGE function to do the same: L R15,PSAAOLDGet A(my ASCB) L R15,ASCBASSB-ASCB(,R15) Get A(my ASSB) L R15,ASSBJSAB-ASSB(,R15) Get A(JSAB) MVC

Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Charles Mills
Well you can certainly run the chain to the ACEE. I can post the code if you need. Keep in mind that not all running processes have an ACEE. Also userid and user name are different things (but they're both in the ACEE). And the ACEE is common enough for this purpose across RACF, ACF2 and TSS.

Re: How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Itschak Mugzach
If you run under system Rexx you can access the ACEE using storage function calls as it is an authorised environment. בתאריך יום ד׳, 16 בפבר׳ 2022 ב-21:11 מאת Steve Smith : > Is there any way to obtain the userid (user name) in REXX running in a > non-TSO environment? I know that sysvar does

How to Get UserID in non-TSO REXX

2022-02-16 Thread Steve Smith
Is there any way to obtain the userid (user name) in REXX running in a non-TSO environment? I know that sysvar does not work in USS, IRXJCL, or System REXX TSO=NO. Whereas mvsvar does (go figure). It's so fundamental that I think I can't be the first one to need this. -- sas

RFE for DSCLI for z/VM (and z/OS)

2022-02-16 Thread Alain Benvéniste
Hi, For your info there is a RFE opened to be able to use DSCLI from z/VM and z/OS at : https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe_ID=154036 Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

2022-02-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
It reports the compound variable but not the stem. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 12:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Rexx

Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

2022-02-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Feb 16, 2022, at 10:16:09, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > The only thing that comes to mind is the STEMEDIT from CBT File 895. It > doesn't 'dump' the list but does allow viewing using ISPF. > > Perhaps you could take that and adjust to do the 'dump'.. > Need to add simple variables. For

Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

2022-02-16 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
The only thing that comes to mind is the STEMEDIT from CBT File 895. It doesn't 'dump' the list but does allow viewing using ISPF. Perhaps you could take that and adjust to do the 'dump'.. Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck "Worry more

Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

2022-02-16 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Sent to both IBM-MAIN and TSO-REXX Is there any available routine / function package that a z/OS TSO Rexx program can use like the oorexx function SysDumpVariables for debugging purposes? I have looked through the CBT File001 descriptions and looked at both Mark Zelden and Lionel Dyck's pages

To Mr Oldenburg

2022-02-16 Thread Bob Bridges
Thanks for your kind message. LinkedIn offered me no way to reply without actually accepting the invitation, but maybe you'll see this and send me an email if further discussion is warranted :). --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* At a recording studio a session was

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Bob Bridges
They could send each other emails privately, but that would kind of miss the point, wouldn't it? Their barbs are ostensibly aimed at each other, but we're the intended audience. Without the audience this would quickly die away. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /*

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Robert Prins
On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 at 15:04, Pommier, Rex wrote: > Would you two take your spitting match someplace off IBM-main? The rest > of us don't want to hear it. > And can you stop adding the whole fecking discussion to your 1-line

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Pommier, Rex
Would you two take your spitting match someplace off IBM-main? The rest of us don't want to hear it. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 9:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Holy

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Bill Johnson
Profits can’t be negative unless the company is fraudulently reporting. You’re out of your league.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Wednesday, February 16, 2022, 9:46 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: Whoosh! What that means is that there are plenty of examples of massive changes in stock

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
Whoosh! What that means is that there are plenty of examples of massive changes in stock prices that had nothing to do with profitability. I'm not sure why you keep bringing up cash flow being negative; that has nothing to do with the issue. And, yes, pprofits can also be negative. -- Shmuel

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
++ I've never apologized for looking things up, and never will, just as I'll never apologize for paranoia in backup strategies. Sometimes even when you've known the details for a long time it pays to check the manual for changes. BTST,GTTS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Bill Johnson
LOLOLOLOL, what does that even mean? Uber is a prime example of NEGATIVE cash flow. They’ve NEVER turned a profit to date & their negative cash flow has been in the billions since they went public in 2019. Explains why the stock is significantly below their IPO price. And the internet bubble is

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Seymour J Metz
Yeah, and the dot com crash never happened. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bill Johnson [0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-16 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
Thanks Shmuel! The bones have healed nicely but the pandemic wreaked havoc on rehab. I did my best alone, but I doubt that I'll be able to squat ever again unless knee surgery is in my future (which may happen). Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf