re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#31 REFRPROT History Question
Note this is part of old exchange of trying to get page protect for 3033
... included in same hardware hits for MVSA microcode assist
Date: 02/27/80 08:37:42
From: wheeler
re: yesterday's protect bit discussion. -- It
shmuel+...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
The S/370 supported both 2 KiB and 4 KiB pages; the 360/67 only
supported 4 KiB. As I recall, DOS/VS and OS/VS1 used 2 KiB, while
OS/VS2 used 4 KiB. I don't recall what page sizes Virtual Machine
Facility/370 supported.
360/67
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes:
360/67 support 4kbyte pages and 1mbyte segments ... but it also
supported 24bit and 32bit virtual addressing modes (aka 16mbyte and
4gbyte virtual address spaces).
370 support 2kbyte and 4kbyte pages and 64kbyte and 1mbyte segments
... but only
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#13 I do not understand S0C6 on CDSG
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#15 I do not understand S0C6 on CDSG
with regard to offline email regarding page replacement algorithms
When I was starting work on paging stuff as undergraduate circa 1968,
there
cobol trivia in a.f.c. posts about cp67 group splitting off from the
science center (on the 4th flr) and moving to the 3rd flr, absorbing the
boston programming group (on its way to morphing into vm370):
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013c.html#8 OT: CPL on LCM systems [was Re: COBOL
will outlive
spmcbr...@us.ibm.com (Sean P. McBride) writes:
I recently found out that Edson Hendricks (the creator of VNET) wrote
a copy of Spacewar! for the IBM System 360 while he was an MIT
student. It was based on the PDP-1 version, and it was used by MIT
for their annual open house in either 1965 or
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes:
VNET wiki reference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_VNET
misc. past posts mentioning internal network
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subnetwork.html#internalnet
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#7 Spacewar! on S/360
warning: vnet topic
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#72 One reason for monocase was Re:
Dualcase vs monocase. Was: Article for the boss
IBM ASCII reference also mentions getting collating sequence wrong in
STRETCH
IBM Stretch references:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_7030_Stretch
esst...@juno.com (esst...@juno.com) writes:
Being from the East Coast - I see a different perspective.
Bean Counters only see us as overhead - un-neccessary to some.
These Bean Counters would rather pay for several less skilled
personnal then pay for a competent, skilled, knowledgeable,
cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca (Clark Morris) writes:
Actually there is a more subtle and hard to deal with reason. Any
alphanumeric field comparison or sort on alphanumeric fields assumed
upper case only. If case insensitivity were to be required, all of
them would have to be rewritten. If not,
jwgli...@gmail.com (John Gilmore) writes:
The matter can be put in even more forthright fashion. Operational IT
costs can be significant for, say, a bank or an airline.
IT-development costs and IT-group budgets, on the other hand, are
trivial. Their effect on the bottom line is seldom
jwgli...@gmail.com (John Gilmore) writes:
They opposed providing every programmer with his or her own terminal:
terminals were not needed all the time; they could be shared, as
keypunches had been. They opposed the use of color terminals,
describing them as costly frills. They opposed the
edgould1...@comcast.net (Ed Gould) writes:
We were desperate for UCB's and even looked at the 8100's but it was a
nightmare (programming and maintenance (software long story and I will
explain offline if requested)).
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#56 Dualcase vs monocase. Was:
jcew...@acm.org (Joel C. Ewing) writes:
Having a few devices that supported dual case didn't necessarily make
it economically reasonable to adopt dual case. There was considerable
(more than a decade) overlap between use of card equipment and the
deployment of 3270 devices, and as already
p...@voltage.com (Phil Smith) writes:
Indeed. I'd put it more strongly: Case sensitivity for *IX filesystems
offers NO benefit that anyone has ever been able to articulate to
me. If you ask a *IX person, they act like it's just obviously A
Good Thing, but can never express why. And if you ask
jlturr...@centurytel.net (Leslie Turriff) writes:
Not so much a mistake as short-sightedness; before 3270s were
available,
keypunches could only do upper-case (without jumping through hoops), so
mixed-case names were probably considered unneccessary.
I also remember when, in
martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com (Martin Packer) writes:
Not saying you're wrong but OSX is based on Unix.
even some IBM content ... in the early 80s, IBM was getting back into
support for educational institutions (some gov. restrictions expiring)
including forming ACIS starting out with $300M for univ.
donb...@gmail.com (Don Williams) writes:
18,000 companies w/MFs world-wide? Seems low.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#43 Article for the boss: COBOL will
outlive us all
estimate that there are 10k world-wide at 4k to 5k customers
st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) writes:
Actually, my understanding was that it went the
other way: lots of HASP code was lifted into
ASP. There was probably some borrowing in the
other direction, too, I would imagine.
(For the relative newcomers in the group,
HASP was the
imugz...@gmail.com (Itschak Mugzach) writes:
So why don't you save the money and run your corporate network from the
mainframe ;-)
discussion in linkedin Enterprise Systems that 4% of IBM
revenue is mainframe hardware sales, but mainframe business is 25% of
total revenue ... for every dollar of
mitchd...@gmail.com (Dana Mitchell) writes:
So you are saying that a sub $2K blade has roughly 10 times raw
compute power as an 80 way z196?
I'd be interested in references to support that.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013b.html#5 mainframe selling points
IBM publishes 50BIPS for 80-way
david.dev...@sse.com (David Devine) writes:
Looking at processor and software costs in isolation doesnt tell the whole
story.
Yes, software cost are a big chunk, but doesnt Microsoft charge like a
Rhino for each Windows licence?
What would you attach your E5-2600 blade to and using
st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) writes:
IBM blew it 20-30 years ago when they stopped being generous
to colleges and universities. Looking at the short term.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#74 mainframe selling points
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#75 mainframe
mp...@suse.com (Mark Post) writes:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Sequoia
long ago precursor ... working both with LLNL and other national labs
as well a commercial RDBMS regarding cluster scaleup ... old email
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa
and old reference to commercial
st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) writes:
IBM blew it 20-30 years ago when they stopped being generous
to colleges and universities. Looking at the short term.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#74 mainframe selling points
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#75 mainframe
k60ek...@us.ibm.com (Kevin Minerley) writes:
Much zOS legacy doc was in a proprietary SGML (IBMIDDoc). Now a high
percentage is in DITA to align with corporate direction.
BookMaster and Script/DCF are long gone (mostly) for over a decade.
Some program directories and few of the ancient LPS
zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) writes:
ObAnecdote (not directly related, but fun): a friend has lock picking
skills (and picks). He swears the following is true.
annual hackers conference (origins predate use of hacker to refer to
crooks and attackers; initially I was the only ibm employee that
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) writes:
BTW: I prefer tokens over biometrics for the following reasons:
1. Biometrics is not reliable. Depending on the method used it could
cause false failures, for example a fingerprint after some injury
cannot be recognized. Same about face recognition
butl...@us.ibm.com (Jon Butler) writes:
Yes, they have been available for six months in the zE12...120 usable
PUs...of which, in maximum configuration, 16 are configured as SAPs, 2
are spares, 1 is a reserve, and 101 are customer configurable as CPs,
IFLs, zIIPs, zAAPs, ICFs or additional
sfi...@recoverypoint.com (Steve Finch) writes:
Look at the Digital Certificate exchange process. It is the basis of
SSL (HTTPS, SSH, Secure FTP).
It should be supported on most platforms. It uses assymetric
cryptography to encrypt the crypt the symmetric key. And the RSA
encryption does use
alan_altm...@us.ibm.com (Alan Altmark) writes:
I'm not sure what you're saying. MVS, VM, and VSE code bases *all*
precede the invention of channel-attached FBA. They weren't
engineered for use by MVS (e.g. originally no RESERVE/RELEASE), but it
didn't matter since MVS wasn't engineered to
g...@gabegold.com (Gabe Goldberg) writes:
z/OS folk have an eight year head start on VMers, with predecessor
first versions announced 1964 and shipped 1965 -- so there should be
plenty of stories. Please keep 'em brief, to fit almost 50 years into
a short article.
old post about contacting
m...@mentor-services.com (Mike Myers) writes:
I'm quite familiar with that project. Three others and I actually
implemented a prototype which let a TSO user issue the command CMS
which would obtain a block of storage in the TSO address space and
load and run the CMS kernel using SIE. Attempts
m...@mentor-services.com (Mike Myers) writes:
As Lynn Wheeler points out, TSS/360 was considered sound by many both
in IBM and by at least a handful of IBM customers. I ran across many
strong advocates during an assignment at IBM's Watson Research Center
at Yorktown Heights, NY in the early
shmuel+...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
We had an SE in the mid 1970's who claimed that IBM was ready to ship
a TSS release with a virtual machine capability but pulled the plug on
it at the last minute. He claimed that performance was good, and was
not a happy camper when
m...@mentor-services.com (Mike Myers) writes:
Lynn:
I'm quite familiar with that project. Three others and I actually
implemented a prototype which let a TSO user issue the command CMS
which would obtain a block of storage in the TSO address space and
load and run the CMS kernel using SIE.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#30 Regarding Time Sharing
oh, old presentation at fall atlantic share meeting in 1968
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/94.html#18
on MFT14 CP67. CP67 had been installed in the univ last week of
Jan68. Univ. continued to run OS/360 (in 360/65 mode on
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#25 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off
Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
attached is item from today I did in linkedin mainframe ... work I had
done for channel extender in 1980 then also start to show up for
fibre-channel in the late 80s. Then nearly
jwgli...@gmail.com (John Gilmore) writes:
Lynn's most recent response is unsatisfactory, in substance evasive.
Let us for the sake of the argument stipulate, though this is not
usually the case, that some non-mainframe server can perform some
single I/O operation faster than some mainframe.
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
Every generation believes that it invented sex. The 4300 may mark
MVCIN becoming standard, but the instruction is much older than the
4300. The Technion had it on their 370/165 in 1972, and I believe that
it was available on the
shmuel+...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
No! The channel should pass CCW opcodes[1] on to the controller and
let the controller handle them.
[1] Other than TIC.
note that more recent zHPF for FICON with TCW ... batch up multiple
channel commands for download. this is similar
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) writes:
Excuse me, what is misleading? It's obviousm that .NET framework work
on Windows operating system and the windows is not free of
charge. However you can have Windows (for money) and get the framework
with no additional cost. That means it's FREE OF
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
OS/VS2 Release 3.8 was the last free MVS[1], and TSO was a part of it.
There were various products that enhanced the free base, including
MVS/SE and TSO Command Package. These were later bundled into larger
products, e.g., MVS/SP
chrisma...@belgacom.net (Chris Mason) writes:
Well, I did the research for you!
- According to Gilbert Saint-Flour's web page, IND$FILE dates from 1983.
- According to RFC 765, FTP dates from 1980.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#37 Why File transfer through TSO
IND$FILE is
glen herrmannsfeldt g...@ugcs.caltech.edu writes:
For unix/dos/windows file systems, though, there needs to be a disk
cache where FBA blocks are brought into memory and the appropriate
bytes copied to user space. Now, the caching ability of that likely
helps much of the time, but it isn't so
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Edward Jaffe) writes:
You've described the old CUT-mode interface. Somewhere around the
early 1980s, DFT mode was introduced. It does not encode the data, use
a screen to send it, or any of that. It simply wraps the binary data
in a 3270 structured field envelope
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes:
FICON initially just mapped on top of underlying fibre channel
... ignoring all the i/o program batching ... finally FICON starts
with zHPF and TCW.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#2 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off
Another Light - Univ
gho...@cdpwise.net (Graham Hobbs) writes:
Does that mean there's no such thing as a even a guesstimate?
Would 'lurkers' imply nasties?
ibm-main mailing list is gatewayed to usenet ... outgoing only
... doesn't accept in-coming ... so any posting originating from usenet
don't show up on the
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes:
oops, late 80s is 25yrs ago ... not 35yrs ... finger slip.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#2 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off
Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012m.html#3 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off
glen herrmannsfeldt g...@ugcs.caltech.edu writes:
For unix/dos/windows file systems, though, there needs to be a disk
cache where FBA blocks are brought into memory and the appropriate
bytes copied to user space. Now, the caching ability of that likely
helps much of the time, but it isn't so
oops, late 80s is 25yrs ago ... not 35yrs ... finger slip.
in the 80s, it was recognized that the half-duplex channel paradigm (not
just ibm mainframe) ... introduced a lot of end-to-end latency overhead
chatter. there were several serial, asynchronous efforts launched in the
late 80s ... all
Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca writes:
I see what you have posted and what Lynn Wheeler has posted and am
confused. Assuming that VMware on Intel and similar solutions for the
p series have gotten much better since 2007 (not unrealistic), I'm
looking at the relative CPU power and
mike.a.sch...@gmail.com (Mike Schwab) writes:
10 or 20 Linux servers consolidated onto 1 x86-64 blade server.
300 Linux servers consolidated onto 1 zIFL.
Now that looks reasonable. A full speed z processor is still 15 to 30
times faster than Virtual x86-64.
re:
jwgli...@gmail.com (John Gilmore) writes:
Did the phrase come first, followed by its acronym? Or did the
acronym come first, followed by the construction of a more or, often,
very much less felicitous phrase to serve as its imputed its origin?
aka some claims that spool comes from spool/reel
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) writes:
1. 300? Only 300? Why not 3?
I can buy good memory for 6,6 $ per GB, IBM wanted recently 8k$ per
GB. 1000+ times more. Now it's cheaper - only 1500 $/GB. I can also
buy CPU for 150$, while IFL costs approx 150 k$.
re:
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#81 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off
Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#87 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off
Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
BladeCenter blade servers
gahe...@gmail.com (George Henke) writes:
I believe IBM produced a pc with a 370 to run VM on a PC. Merrill Lynch
had one. Somewhere in the late 80's I believe.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#72 zEC12, and previous generations,
why? type question - GPU computing
1984, xt/370 ...
XT/370 and AT/370 used a 68000 with custom microcode and a second
68000 with standard microcode. The software for it was VM/PC.
Note that the later P/370 and R/370 cards implemented the full
architecture and ran stock operating systems.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#72 zEC12,
sipp...@sg.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples1) writes:
Keep in mind that for 1975 this was absolutely amazing technology, but
amazing technology required some expense. Being early is pricey. If the
5100 debuted in, say, 1977 or 1978, it would have still been well timed but
could have dramatically
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) writes:
WRONG!
I meant it's hard to justfiy the choice: to buy IFL (plus rest of
mainframe) or x64 servers. I meant Linux on IFL is *much* more
expensive than on x64 servers. Things like power, cooling, floor
space, staffing won't change it, but the
wdonze...@gmail.com (William Donzelli) writes:
Was this effort in some way related, or in competition with, the UC
series of controllers? Quite a lot of machines used those internally,
and they even popped out with the 8100 series (the mainframes that
have fallen into the memory hole).
re:
edgould1...@comcast.net (Ed Gould) writes:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/05/ibm_z12_mainframe_engine/
z12 is aggregate 75BIPS (for 101 processors, 50% more than 80processor
z196 at 50BIPS). A z12 processor is 25% more powerful (than z196 engine)
at 1,600MIPS (1.6BIPS).
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#56 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off
Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#57 Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off
Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#59 Blades versus z was Re: Turn
t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) writes:
There *was* a single-chip 370 produced by someone in the late 70s - a
168i. I think it was a university or research institute, but not
IBM. I'm not finding anything on Google with a casual search, but
things like this are easily overwhelmed.
SLAC did
paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
And here, I find myself in rare agreement with John G.'s view
(if I understand correctly). A char[] containing no \0 is a perfectly
valid array of char. It is not a string, by C's convention, and there
is no requirement that a char[] represent a
mike.a.sch...@gmail.com (Mike Schwab) writes:
Put a Hercules emulator and z/OS on that blade, 50 z/OS MIPS per
hyperthread, so 100 MIPS per core, 1600 MIPS per blade (per
TurboHercules). Perhaps $5,000 per blade? Some blades do have 4
sockets.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#51
cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca (Clark Morris) writes:
How much work can that z196 do compared with the 4829/hr Amazon cloud
you mentioned? Given the great disparity between costs per
instruction execution, on reading these posts it would seem that
getting to a secure, fault tolerant operating
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) writes:
No, with *one* blade cabinet of Dell+Windows. HW cost comparable to
spare HMC and two OSA cards.
as mentioned before:
max. configured z196 with 80 processors is rated at 50BIPs and goes for
$28M ($350,000/processor, $560,000/BIPS,
efinnel...@aol.com (Ed Finnell) writes:
There was a 'dark comedy' film in the sixties, maybe Marcel Marceau where
the Inmates were running the town at the end of WWII-dodging the various
military factions, keeping the peace, and providing for the general welfare.
The comedy I suppose is
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) writes:
Why am I getting a vision of Medusa? Or perhaps a sea anemone?
Tentacles reaching out to entrap prey. Pity the small servers in the
room, getting lashed with FICON cables. GRIN
IBM 1991 (power) cluster scaleup with fiber-channel (FICON is
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes:
nearly 20yrs later ... From the Annals of Release No Software Before
Its Time (Power DB2 with cluster of 100 systems)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009p.html#43
rebranded pureScale ...
http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/28593.wss
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) writes:
CA-7 has a similar function to run cross platform work. It requires
a daemon be running on the remote side. WARNING type=plugI like
Co:Z Launcher from Dovetailed Technologies to do this. It only
requires a standard SSH server on the remote
shmuel+...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
Only if you're talking about the same instruction mix. When one system
has instructions like MVCL and the other doesn't, MIPS truly means
meaningless indication of processor speed. A comparison of FLOPS
ratings might be more
cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca (Clark Morris) writes:
Are there any benchmarks available comparing a z series against a
blade configuration doing the same work and comparing the cost per
benchmark unit? Given the complexity of instruction sets for both
Intel and the z series and the different
scott_j_f...@yahoo.com (Scott Ford) writes:
I saw the same exercise in a pharm. company trying to go from MVS,
multiple Lpars to unix. Several millions of $$$ and it was a
bustsome applications were difficult to convert
in the 90s, one of the biggest efforts was by the financial industry
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#8 execs or scripts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#9 execs or scripts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#15 execs or scripts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#20 execs or scripts
other trivia ... vm/cms SE on financial services accounts
zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) writes:
Relevance?
my bad, thread in comp.lang.rexx that went to wrong place
--
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /
scott_j_f...@yahoo.com (Scott Ford) writes:
Just for my 2 cents worth, ran P390s in one environment attached to two T1s.
Attached to them we're 3800 laser printers and some 3274s we couldnt replace.
The mainframes were an hour plus away in NJ, and our printed output queued up
to the P390s.
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) writes:
X64 hardware, as much as it has improved, is still not as reliable or
have the I/O capacity of the z hardware. E.g.: We had a TCM fail
once. A spare picked up the work, automatically restarting the
instruction stream, with no outage of any
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) writes:
has always been - had always been. As you indicated, at first
software was written in order to sell the hardware. It was basically
overhead. However, when PCMs such as Amdahl came along and simply
started redistributing IBM software (which
mw...@ssfcu.org (Ward, Mike S) writes:
IBM has always been a hardware company. In the 60's they wrote
operating systems and gave them away as long as you purchased the
hardware from them to run it on.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#16 X86 server
rreyno...@cix.co.uk (Rupert Reynolds) writes:
Does anyone have a copy of the old JARGON FILE that buzzed around the IBM
VM network in the '90s when i was working in Portsmouth North Harbour? I'd
love to see it again. I think it included discussion of Bubblegum vs.
Boeblingen.
i have few
shmuel+...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
Why didn't they preserve what they needed for their own use and
deliver the stuff they would have otherwise thrown out to the DOJ?
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#89 Auditors Don't Know Squat!
zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) writes:
Yeah, we had some of those. Their offices were a mess and they didn't bathe
often enough.
Oh, wait, you're talking software...yeah, core cancer or storage creep
were what I was weaned on.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#89 Auditors Don't Know
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) writes:
So, 12 years old FICON is simply obsolete and we should expect
something new? And don't tell me about FICON enhancements, ESCON was
enhanced as well!
So? Shall we expect wi-fi based channels?
FICON is features on top of FCS (fiber channel
t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) writes:
One would think that Fortune 500 companies would protect their old
sites, but no one seems to have noticed or cared about this one.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#68 ESCON
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#69 ESCON
how 'bout all the san
chrisma...@belgacom.net (Chris Mason) writes:
In fact, for a reason having everything to do with marketing and
nothing whatsoever technical, VTAM does *not* implement LEN protocols
over the type 2.1 CTC, only APPN protocols.
aka ... at the time APPN was to be announced ... the communication
paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
OS simulation was implemented only to the extent necessary
to support (some of) the supported utilities. For example,
PDS member statistics (the user info area) were deemed
unnecessary and not implemented. ISPF/VM goes to outrageous
gyrations
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) writes:
What, no mention of CP/M-86? I don't think that MP/M ever had a x86
version. I do remember running Pick on my XT clone. Now that was a
weird beastie. And you totally ignored things like the Amiga. I loved
what I saw of that software. I wish
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) writes:
What, no mention of CP/M-86? I don't think that MP/M ever had a x86
version. I do remember running Pick on my XT clone. Now that was a
weird beastie. And you totally ignored things like the Amiga. I loved
what I saw of that software. I wish
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes:
cp67 not just npg ... but also various other places ... also gone 404
but lives on at the wayback machine
http://web.archive.org/web/20090117083033/http://www.nsa.gov/research/selinux/list-archive/0409/8362.shtml
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn
shmuel+...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
There's an error in that article and in the RSCS article; RSCS uses
connection-oriented protocols, not connectionless protocols.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012j.html#83 Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented
the Internet?
sto...@interchip.de (David Stokes) writes:
The virus vulnerability (and number of spambots and DOS attack bots) on
the Internet is much more a function of the Operating Systems of the
user nodes connected to the Internet than of the Internet itself. Much
of the current problem stems from
jwgli...@gmail.com (John Gilmore) writes:
The scientific community made early and significant use of the DARPA
predecessor of today's Internet, and almost none of the problems that
afflict us today emerged during that period. There was no money to be
made by chicanery, and little of it
Gordon Crovitz: Who Really Invented the Internet?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB187239639064304577539063008406518.html
WSJ mangles history to argue government didn't launch the Internet
mw...@ssfcu.org (Ward, Mike S) writes:
This is one area where I really have a problem. It used to be back in
the 370 days that if a machine was rated at 50 mips and you moved up
to 100 mips you really noticed the difference in execution time. Today
if you have a 100 mip machine (I know they're
john_matt...@ea.epson.com (John Mattson) writes:
Back to basics: My pet peeve(s) (serious security concerns) are:
1) sites which do not allow use of the full set of special characters. My
banks, Google and Facebook do, so it is not that hard. The more
posibilities for each character, the
zedgarhoo...@gmail.com (zMan) writes:
I've heard of folks who've fallen for this. What I can't imagine is the
confluence of someone who I know well enough to blindly send money to AND
think I'd be high enough on their list of folks to email AND wouldn't know
that they were overseas already AND
scott_j_f...@yahoo.com (Scott Ford) writes:
Very true..but still I think Yahoo has a responsibility to their customers
We were tangentially involved in the cal. data breach notification act
(the original notification act) having been brought in to help
wordsmith the cal. electornic signature
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#74 HELP WITH PCOM - PASTE OPTION NOT
WORKING CORRECTLY
one of the things that electronics still in the 3277 head made possible
was the 3277ga ... basically a tektronics graphics display hooked into
the side of the 3277 terminal (could sort of be
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