Kirk Talman wrote:
It came from a T shirt.
Reminds me of a T-shirt I got from a family member who was at Kariba for
holidays many many many years ago.
On that stands: My friends went to Zimbabwe. All I got was this lousy T-shirt!
That T-shirt is now serving as a rag to remove bugs (real bugs,
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Lizette Koehler kindly wrote:
1) LE Traps any abends - does some stuff
From: Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net
Somewhat off topic, but if that was supposed to be German, it's wrong. I
only have a rudimentary knowledge of Yiddish, but I believe it's wrong
there, too.
(Die) alte Kacker is the valid masculine plural.
(Der) alter Kacker is the masculine
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On 7/3/2013 5:10 AM, Mowry, Norma E CIV DISA ESB (US) wrote:
We have a production job that is abending with S0C7 reason
.
Lizette
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Sorry
Lizette Koehler kindly wrote:
1) LE Traps any abends - does some stuff, then returns control to the abend
process
Yes. By default as supplied by IBM. With TRAP(OFF) you get nasty side-effects
according to LE diagnostic guide.
Check the run-time options with RPTOPTS.
Norma Mowry wrote:
This
On 7/3/2013 12:11 PM, Kirk Talman wrote:
As a certified alte kacker, I would like to comment on what this tells us
about the state of mainframe IT.
Somewhat off topic, but if that was supposed to be German, it's wrong. I
only have a rudimentary knowledge of Yiddish, but I believe it's wrong
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S0C7 is the most simple cause of abend I can imagine.
The only problem is to find the position in the program (that is: the
source line)
where the error occured. If you have this, you know the name of the
variable causing
the error, and the rest is a piece of cake.
To get this, you need no
B37s.
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S0C7 is the most simple cause of abend I
to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:01:29 +0200
S0C7 is the most simple cause of abend I can imagine.
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Bernd has summarized this situation more than adequately.
Norma Mowry did not provide us with full information about the COBOL
compiler that produced the offending program, but if it is a fairly
recent Enterprise COBOL compiler it would, given the right compiler
options, almost certainly be
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:01:29 +0200
S0C7 is the most simple cause of abend I can imagine
Richard Pinion wrote:
B37s.
222 is easier to handle ;-D
Ok, perhaps 322, 722, 822 or 878 are also easy. 622 is somewhat difficult to
explain to an angry TSO user, but manageable.
My users don't like 722 for obvious reasons. I wonder why, oh, why? ;-D
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
If you have an LE Dump (CEEDUMP, CEESNAP),
it's still easier, because LE gives you the traceback of the function
or procedure calls, where you find all the information including
the offsets I mentioned in my previous post, and you don't even
need to do any calculations. If you compiled your
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On 7/4/2013 1:43 PM, Skip Robinson wrote:
Definite article 'der' changes adjective from marked masculine 'alter' to
'alte'. As opposed to indefinite article as in 'ein alter Mann'.
That's why I put the definite articles in parenthesis. In Kirk's
original post, he used the indefinite article,
It's a bona fide US holiday, which trumps even Friday.
I disagree. Many on the list are not Americans.
You didn't hear any of we Canadians trumpeting our holiday on July 1st.
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Ted MacNEIL
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Ted, that would be locality of reference. I suppose you'd complain if
someone in Australia said It's Friday, because many on the list aren't
Australian?
Sheesh. Over-sensitive Canadians...
On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
It's a bona fide US holiday, which
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Ted, that would be locality of reference. I suppose you'd complain if
someone in Australia said It's Friday, because many
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Subject: Re: Question on how to debug S0C7
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Mowry, Norma E CIV DISA ESB (US)
norma.e.mowry@mail.mil wrote:
We have a production job that is abending with S0C7 reason 0007. I
set a slip to capture a dump but I can't seem to find the input record that
is causing the S0C7 in this dump. I also have
On Wed, 3 Jul 2013 11:10:18 + Mowry, Norma E CIV DISA ESB (US)
norma.e.mowry@mail.mil wrote:
:We have a production job that is abending with S0C7 reason 0007. I set a
slip to capture a dump but I can't seem to find the input record that is
causing the S0C7 in this dump. I also
The LE is clearly involved. It would help to know what
language---COBOL?---this application was written in and to have a DCB
for the input file that contains the offending record.
You have provided too little information to enable anyone to help you.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
Would adding a CEEOPTS DD override work? I've never tried it but maybe?
//CEEOPTS DD *
TERMTHDACT(UAONLY)
DYNDUMP(*USERID,DYNAMIC,TDUMP)
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From: Mowry, Norma E CIV DISA ESB (US) [mailto:norma.e.mowry@mail.mil]
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To:
Being old, I have occasionally turned off LE's abend handling and just
gone for the throat using a recent compile (with generated assembler
shown) and a SYSUDUMP.
The programmers have forgotten how to do this entirely. They require
AbendAid to pinpoint the problem for them or it is unfixable.
Of John Gilmore
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The LE is clearly involved. It would help to know what
language---COBOL?---this application was written in and to have a DCB for the
input file
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Being old, I have occasionally turned off LE's abend handling and just gone
for the throat using
On 7/3/2013 5:10 AM, Mowry, Norma E CIV DISA ESB (US) wrote:
We have a production job that is abending with S0C7 reason 0007. I set a
slip to capture a dump but I can't seem to find the input record that is causing
the S0C7 in this dump. I also have a CEEDUMP but that's not real helpful in
From: Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com
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Date: 07/03/2013 05:44 AM
Subject:Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend
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On 7/3/2013 5:10 AM, Mowry, Norma E CIV
You might look at some of these Share Proceedings. They may help
● LE Crime Scene Investigation - Finding Debugging Clues in LE Dumps
● Slowed Down by LE? Perhaps the CEEPIPI Service Can Help!
● LE for Dummies
● COBOL Performance - Myths and Realities
● Comparing
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You might look at some of these Share Proceedings. They may help
On 7/3/2013 8:34 AM, Mowry, Norma E CIV DISA ESB (US) wrote:
The program abending is written in COBOL.
That invalidates my first guess g
Back in the late sixties I diagnosed my first 0C7, in a colleague's
production program that had been running problem free for some time. He
was reading
As someone pointed out, a s0c7 may not really be due to a bad data field in the
last record READ. But, to answer that question, if you did get an SVC dump
using SLIP and you included RGN, SWA, TRT:
use IP SUMMARY REGS FORMAT to get the DEB chain printed or follow it yourself
to find the OPEN
There have been several various good answers to this problem.
As a certified alte kacker, I would like to comment on what this tells us
about the state of mainframe IT.
- Apparently one can be in Operating Systems Support w/o having been an
application programmer. One of the advantages many
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Kirk Talman rkueb...@tsys.com wrote:
There have been several various good answers to this problem.
As a certified alte kacker, I would like to comment on what this tells us
about the state of mainframe IT.
- Apparently one can be in Operating Systems Support
On 7/3/2013 12:11 PM, Kirk Talman wrote:
There have been several various good answers to this problem.
As a certified alte kacker, I would like to comment on what this tells us
about the state of mainframe IT.
- Apparently one can be in Operating Systems Support w/o having been an
application
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On 7/3/2013 12:11 PM, Kirk Talman wrote
Kirk:
We had one of these issues and the programmer said since its a
system 0C7 its the systems people's responsibility . I called up to
his manager and dispensed him out the door .
Ed
On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Kirk Talman wrote:
There have been several various good answers to this
You too? First name wouldn't have been Walter by any chance, would it? Same
programmer went to the DOS/VS sysprog with a DOS message similar to PROGRAM
TERMINATED BY PROGRAM REQUEST. Insisted the wasn't a TERMINATE verb
anywhere in his program, must be a compiler problem.
On Jul 3, 2013 2:50 PM,
In
caajsdjjn4zk-csejvp4exf4ctxc5dnv6cfr5a19pnovvvgq...@mail.gmail.com,
on 07/03/2013
at 07:16 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said:
Being old, I have occasionally turned off LE's abend handling and
just gone for the throat using a recent compile (with generated
assembler shown)
of knowledge of how to debug this simple issue.
Peter
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In 01bc01ce7820$59608f30$0c21ad90$@verizon.net, on 07/03/2013
at 03:05 PM, Carl Swanson carl.swans...@verizon.net said:
You have the entry point to the abend and you have the entry point of
the problem program.
In many situations it's easy to get the wrong addresses from the dump
if you don't
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