Re: Wlm and adabas\complete

2017-02-20 Thread Brian France
Howdy Tim, We run all that here. Not sure what you're looking for but I can tell you how we use WLM here in conjunction with them. As you can imagine there's all sorts of schools of thoughts that work. Take this as it works here but not maybe not somewhere else. Importance of 1,

Re: Wlm and adabas\complete

2017-02-17 Thread Neil Duffee
Caveat: list digestion leads to delayed responses... I'm surprised Lizette hasn't piped up already but I'll pass along that you would probably get a better response via sa...@listserv.uark.edu which is where the SAG clients hang out. I've cc:'d them in this message. Since we were DB2, Adabas

Re: WLM Question

2016-08-30 Thread Horst Sinram
> Is there a way in batch to extract a WLM service definition and perform a > save/save as to a dataset that I can use for DR preprocessing purposes? Bob, depending your further requirements there are two RFEs (requirements) that you could consider voting for

Re: WLM Question

2016-08-29 Thread John Arwe
You're (much, IMO) better off using IWMD than fussing around with ISPF in batch. IWMD were the intended APIs zWLM development put in place for exactly this purpose in MVS/ESA 5.1.0 (yes, >20 years ago). The WLM ISPF dialogs were never intended to be an API. You could almost certainly

Re: WLM Question

2016-08-27 Thread Martin Packer
nder on Desertwiz <norman.hollan...@desertwiz.biz> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 27/08/2016 20:31 Subject: Re: WLM Question Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> >From the ISPF app (IWA0), under the file tab, there are options to e

Re: WLM Question

2016-08-27 Thread Norman Hollander on Desertwiz
6 4:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: WLM Question To extract the policy in an automated fashion, I believe you'll have to write some code--I don't believe there's a provided utility to do so. You could use the IWMDEXTR macro to extract the current service definition from the WLM

Re: WLM Question

2016-08-27 Thread Scott Chapman
To extract the policy in an automated fashion, I believe you'll have to write some code--I don't believe there's a provided utility to do so. You could use the IWMDEXTR macro to extract the current service definition from the WLM couple dataset. See:

Re: WLM Question

2016-08-26 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
I'm sorry, I now see that you want to do it in batch. Can't help you there. Kees. -Original Message- From: Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM Sent: 26 August, 2016 16:07 To: 'IBM Mainframe Discussion List' <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Subject: RE: WLM Question If you just want to

Re: WLM Question

2016-08-26 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Kees, You missed the *batch* aspect. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 10:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: WLM Question If you just want

Re: WLM Question

2016-08-26 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
If you just want to export and reload the definition: yes. Click Files in the WLM application. -Save As exports the Service Definition to a file. -Open (or option 1 when starting the WLM application) reads the Service Definition, so you can Install/Activate it. Take care that WLM makes a private

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-05-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Dispatching priorities mean nothing if the work is getting done. You're using the WLM; you should learn and use its terminology. -teD   Original Message   From: Tracy Adams Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 15:57 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: WLM

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-05-02 Thread Martin Packer
tawa.ca> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 02/05/2016 20:20 Subject: Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Caveat: as a daily digester, responses are implicitly delayed... Tracy: among other good advice you got

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-05-02 Thread Neil Duffee
tems Programming: Guilty, until proven innocent” John Norgauer 2004 "Schrodinger's backup: The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted." John McKown 2015 -Original Message- From: Tracy Adams [mailto:tad...@fbb...com] Sent: April 29, 2016 08:55 Subject: Re: W

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-04-29 Thread Martin Packer
er.ibm.com/tv/category/mpt/ From: Tracy Adams <tad...@fbbrands.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 29/04/2016 13:55 Subject:Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Thank you all for chimin

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-04-29 Thread Tracy Adams
: Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution >If your batch jobs are running Dicretionary at a DP lower than CICS, it >is very unlikely that they are causing significant CICS delays. True from a CPU perspective. But the batch jobs could be locking resources in DB2 that are delaying th

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-04-29 Thread Scott Chapman
>If your batch jobs are running Dicretionary at a DP lower than CICS, it is >very >unlikely that they are causing significant CICS delays. True from a CPU perspective. But the batch jobs could be locking resources in DB2 that are delaying the CICS transactions. And if the batch jobs holding

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-04-29 Thread Martin Packer
rtin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://developer.ibm.com/tv/category/mpt/ From: Edward Finnell <000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To:

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-04-29 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
My experience is that CICS will suffer if the LPAR is being soft capped, no matter what you try to do to this situation. So I think the best and only solution is to avoid that the LPAR becomes capped by keeping the batch consumption under control. Not with a limited number of initiators,

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-04-28 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 19:57:32 +, Tracy Adams wrote: >The importance (priority) of DB2 is set 2 Importance is NOT priority. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-04-28 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 18:22:11 +, Tracy Adams We have a soft capped LPAR that runs our DB2 and CICS regions and during >the day some "marketing batch". On Wednesdays, the marketing batch (online >submit via CICS) increases and by afternoon we hit our 4 hour soft cap. Once >or twice while we

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-04-28 Thread Edward Finnell
Some of the new features in RMF are an improvement into what's happening. SHARE papers and Redbooks give insight into what to look for in the 'buckets'. The Boebligen folks admit Velocity goals are really tough for RMF due to rapidity of changing landscape. Configuration is very important.

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-04-28 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 29/04/2016 6:06, Martin Packer wrote: DB2 should have a higher importance than what it serves, so in this case it should be Importance 1. I'd set its goal velocity to what's achievable - probably 70, likely 80, maybe 90. I would not mess with eg 75, 85. By "DB2" I mean DBM1, DIST and MSTR.

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-04-28 Thread Martin Packer
developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker Podcast Series (With Marna Walle): https://developer.ibm.com/tv/category/mpt/ From: Tracy Adams <tad...@fbbrands.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 28/04/2016 20:57 Subject:Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution Sent by:

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-04-28 Thread Tracy Adams
transactions, I will try to collect some delay information. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 3:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-04-28 Thread Martin Packer
Hello Tracy. What importance have you set DB2 address spaces' service class(es) to? Likewise the things it serves, such as CICS regions and CICS transactions/ If DB2 is getting locked out it could be caused by it being Imp 2 or something, rather than Imp 1 with a goal 70+. I also note you're

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-04-28 Thread Mike Shorkend
Do you know why some of the transactions are taking longer than 45 seconds? A CICS performance monitor should be able to break down the response time. In other words, are you sure that the delay is caused by CPU restraints? On 28 April 2016 at 22:40, Staller, Allan

Re: WLM issue with a proposed solution

2016-04-28 Thread Staller, Allan
Set the DB2 goal to be "more reasonable" FSVO reasonable and see what happens. We have a soft capped LPAR that runs our DB2 and CICS regions and during the day some "marketing batch". On Wednesdays, the marketing batch (online submit via CICS) increases and by afternoon we hit our 4 hour soft

AW: Re: WLM Resource Group Capping: Dispatching and un-dispatching

2016-03-19 Thread Peter Hunkeler
> My understanding is that it?s somewhat simpler than cycling dispatchability > flags off and on: as work comes to the front of the queue, if it?s subject to > a resource group, it is checked to see if the current slice is a cap slice or > an awake slice. If it?s an awake slice, it?s

Re: WLM Resource Group Capping: Dispatching and un-dispatching

2016-03-19 Thread Scott Chapman
My understanding is that it’s somewhat simpler than cycling dispatchability flags off and on: as work comes to the front of the queue, if it’s subject to a resource group, it is checked to see if the current slice is a cap slice or an awake slice. If it’s an awake slice, it’s dispatched. If the

Re: WLM managed initiators

2016-02-29 Thread David Andrews
Not what you asked for, but I divide my primary batch service class into periods like so: * Service Class BATCH - Batch jobs w/o specific goals Created by user DBA on 2005/08/22 at 11:23:17 Base last updated by user DBA on 2014/04/14 at 16:51:03 Base goal: CPU Critical flag: NO

Re: WLM managed initiators

2016-02-29 Thread Staller, Allan
AFAIK, no. What you can do is adjust the importance and goals to ensure that the desired class will almost immediately start. HTH, Is there a way to force WLM or JES2 to have a minimum number of jobs running in a WLM managed class? We are running z/OS v2.1 This email – including

Re: WLM managed initiators

2016-02-29 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 02/29/2016 04:43 AM, Bruce Hewson wrote: > Hi Gadi, > > if you have WLM inits defined and the jobclass settings do not limit active > jobs counts per class, then if you think more jobs could be running than WLM > is actually allowing to run, then WLM thinks there is a constraint. > > Do you

Re: WLM managed initiators

2016-02-29 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hi Gadi, if you have WLM inits defined and the jobclass settings do not limit active jobs counts per class, then if you think more jobs could be running than WLM is actually allowing to run, then WLM thinks there is a constraint. Do you really have enough CPU, whatever,, resources? So long as

Re: WLM managed initiators

2016-02-28 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
The basic principle of WLM managed Initiators is to achieve the Goals you have set. If WLM decides to have a certain number of jobs active at a time, then this will be enough to honor the Goals. If you think WLM does not do it right, change the Goals. For WLM it does not matter where the job

Re: WLM managed initiators

2016-02-28 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/28/2016 3:06 AM, גדי בן אבי wrote: Hi Ted, The only reference I found to Resource Classes is RACF related. Could you point me to a manual? Gadi ITHM Resource Groups, but I don't think that will do what you want. It's not uncommon to have several pre-started initiators to handle

Re: WLM managed initiators

2016-02-28 Thread גדי בן אבי
Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 1:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: WLM managed initiators Sorry resource GROUP. -teD   Original Message From: גדי בן

Re: WLM managed initiators

2016-02-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Sorry resource GROUP. -teD   Original Message   From: גדי בן אבי Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 06:07 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: WLM managed initiators Hi Ted, The only reference I found to Resource Classes is RACF related. Could you point

Re: WLM managed initiators

2016-02-28 Thread גדי בן אבי
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: WLM managed initiators Per system? Per PLEX‎? Also, what happens if there aren't enough resources to support that minimum? Have a look at Resource Classes. It may ‎answer your needs -- it's based on resources rather than jobs. -teD   Original Message From: גדי בן אבי Sent

Re: WLM managed initiators

2016-02-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Per system? Per PLEX‎? Also, what happens if there aren't enough resources to support that minimum? Have a look at Resource Classes. It may ‎answer your needs -- it's based on resources rather than jobs. -teD   Original Message   From: גדי בן אבי Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2016 04:37 To:

Re: WLM managed initiator question

2016-02-20 Thread גדי בן אבי
Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Shorkend Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 9:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: WLM managed initiator question Gadi Use the QAFF keyword on $TJOBCLASS

Re: WLM managed initiator question

2016-02-20 Thread Mike Shorkend
Gadi Use the QAFF keyword on $TJOBCLASS For example if you want to prevent jobs in CLASS(6) from running on CMP1 use $TJOBCLASS(6),QAFF(-CPM1) BTW, This is valid for JES managed initiators as well. HTH Mike On 21 February 2016 at 08:51, גדי בן אבי wrote: > Hi, > > Is

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

2015-11-27 Thread Todd J. Gagle
It is recommended to run the SYSVIEW started tasks in the WLM service class SYSSTC. Since SYSVIEW is a monitoring product, it is important for the STCs to have the high priority associated with this class in times of problem determination. With regard to the SYSVIEW CICSLOGR subtasks and CICS

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

2015-11-27 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 21:08:28 +, Martin Packer wrote: >I'm puzzled: Why do you think those dispatching priorities are >inconsistent with the WLM goals DP are (almost ?) *never* inconsistent with sane WLM goals. PI is usually a better indicator of out-of-whack goals. > (and your technical

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

2015-11-26 Thread Martin Packer
I'm puzzled: Why do you think those dispatching priorities are inconsistent with the WLM goals (and your technical business goals)? Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Cloud & Systems Performance, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email:

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

2015-11-26 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
First: DP's are variable and adjusted by WLM such that the task meets its goals. Apparently WLM in convinced that it is doing its job well. Second: you can move the critical monitors to Service Class SYSSTC. I don't think the CPUCRITICAL attribute will help in your current setup, because both

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

2015-11-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Put monitors in SYSSTC. This gives them the second highest DP in the system. You cannot completely control the DP in Service Classes. - -teD -   Original Message   From: phil yogendran Sent: Thursday, November 26, 2015 11:02 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

2015-11-26 Thread phil yogendran
Thank you all for your response and advise. My only reservation is that SYSVIEW, at times, tends to be heavy-footed and causes the system to 'pause'. This is only because of the data we capture at periodic intervals. Anyway, that's for me to investigate further and fix. Thanks, again, On Thu,

Re: WLM and Dispatching Priority

2015-11-26 Thread phil yogendran
> Banco Bradesco. > Patrocinador oficial dos Jogos Olímpicos e Paralímpicos Rio 2016. > > -Mensagem original- > De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Em > nome de phil yogendran > Enviada em: quinta-feira, 26 de novembro de 2015 14:53 >

Re: WLM changes for z/OS 2.1

2015-09-24 Thread Staller, Allan
Not that I am aware of. Only to exploit new function. Are there anyone who are aware about WLM changes required especially for z/OS 2.1 ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: WLM changes for z/OS 2.1

2015-09-24 Thread Norman.Hollander
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 8:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: WLM changes for z/OS 2.1 Not that I am aware of. Only to exploit new function. Are there anyone who are aware about WLM changes required especially for z

Re: WLM changes for z/OS 2.1

2015-09-24 Thread Ed Finnell
I started here: https://share.confex.com/share/125/webprogram/Symposium765.html 17637 Shows Brad Snyder but the handout has Adreas as author. Kathy Walsh's Hot Topics 17861 is great reading too! FATWTK Norman is Project Leader for SHARE EWCP In a message dated 9/24/2015 12:57:28 P.M.

Re: z/OSMF audit (was Re: WLM in batch?)

2014-11-25 Thread Ed Gould
Hi: I have said this before. At a IBM class (here in Chicago) The instructor told us (SERVPAC CLASS) that the goal of IBM was to eliminate the systems programmer. Now hows does that make everyone on the list feel? Ed On Nov 25, 2014, at 12:36 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Disclaimer: I

Re: z/OSMF audit (was Re: WLM in batch?)

2014-11-25 Thread Richards, Robert B.
I feel fine. I was told the same thing 35 years ago. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 12:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF audit (was Re: WLM in batch

Re: z/OSMF audit (was Re: WLM in batch?)

2014-11-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I was told that System Programming would be reduced to PARMLIB updates. Circa 1981. And.. - -teD -   Original Message   From: Richards, Robert B. Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 13:01 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: z/OSMF audit (was Re: WLM

Re: z/OSMF audit (was Re: WLM in batch?)

2014-11-25 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 12:25 PM I was told that System Programming would be reduced to PARMLIB updates. Circa 1981. And.. In a previous job as a CSR for an ISV, we got a new boss. In

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-24 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
is lacking is the batch mass modify part. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: 20 November, 2014 15:00 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: WLM in batch? (Reposting to the list server.) A while back

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-24 Thread Cheryl Walker
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: 20 November, 2014 15:00 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: WLM in batch? (Reposting to the list server.) A while back, when it became obvious that we needed a way to prime a WLM policy

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-24 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: IBM wants z/OS to be friendly. They've turned down a lot of requirements that would have made it friendlier. And audit improvement requests too. :-( IBM wants things that will improve their cash flow, possibly at the expense of long term profit. Indeed. Think

z/OSMF audit (was Re: WLM in batch?)

2014-11-24 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Disclaimer: I (or we) don't have z/OSMF and z/OS v2.1, maybe next year, when we are deemed not be naughty SysOps... ;-) Cheryl Walker wrote: But the reason to go to z/OSMF is not because people want cheap labor, but because it's simply better (at least in 2.1). John McKown is talking about

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Martin Packer
Would XML suit you? It's what I do in Batch from the ISPF TLIB. I'm not sure whether to write up what is an undocumented and unsupported technique. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email:

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Martin Packer
-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Martin Packer/UK/IBM@IBMGB To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 20/11/2014 11:03 Subject:Re: WLM in batch? Sent

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread John Compton
of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Martin Packer/UK/IBM@IBMGB To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 20/11/2014 11:03 Subject:Re

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Martin Packer
/ Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: John Compton johnc.e...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 20/11/2014 11:27 Subject:Re: WLM in batch? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Martin Packer
Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: John Compton johnc.e...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 20/11/2014 11:42 Subject:Re: WLM in batch? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: 20 November, 2014 12:50 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: WLM in batch? This was also an interesting (related) thread: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/1bnhG_--Zzc Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:41:00 +, Martin Packer wrote: I'm not a WLM developer. I'm hoping someone who is will answer that point. If not we'll have to raise a requirement. If you're raising a requirement, ask them why the hell it was architected like that in the first place. No doubt the

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:41:00 +, Martin Packer wrote: I'm not a WLM developer. I'm hoping someone who is will answer that point. If not we'll have to raise a requirement. If you're raising a requirement, ask them

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread John Eells
(Reposting to the list server.) A while back, when it became obvious that we needed a way to prime a WLM policy for new systems, SYS1.SAMPLIB(IWMINSTL) was born. Maybe you'll find the IWMARIDU program useful in this context, and maybe not...if I recall correctly it uses an ISPF table. (I

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cacppn5zv0oxhtyzduualorbk_qupb4iytg8jgkkdhpohbkm...@mail.gmail.com, on 11/20/2014 at 10:49 AM, John Compton johnc.e...@gmail.com said: Any suggestions gratefully received... Write a WLM formatter, assuming that the format is documented. Submit a requirement to IBM, with business case.

Re: WLM in batch?

2014-11-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caajsdjh3gvsdewm25tn8qiwudxk+dxjbfbu3jxatpchskzn...@mail.gmail.com, on 11/20/2014 at 07:23 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: Why? Because somebody thought that using ISPF would make it better. An *option* to use ISPF *does* make it better. However valuable the ISPF panels

Re: WLM

2014-11-08 Thread Martin Packer
:Re: WLM Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 00:09:20 +, Mark Steely wrote: I have several STC that I need to setup a different RptClass for each one. These STC are in the same Workload class. What are the steps to get this setup in WLM

Re: WLM

2014-11-07 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 00:09:20 +, Mark Steely wrote: I have several STC that I need to setup a different RptClass for each one. These STC are in the same Workload class. What are the steps to get this setup in WLM. I fail to see what we can add to the descriptions in the Planning WLM

Re: WLM Mixed Workload

2013-12-14 Thread Bob Morrison
The amount of DDF workload in this shop is minimal and yes, there are gaols to accommodate for that work. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: WLM Mixed Workload

2013-12-14 Thread Bob Morrison
Thanks Martin. I tend to agree with the DB2 and CICS importance strategy you point out. I would really like to debate the VEL:80 however that should be in another thread. Regards. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: WLM Mixed Workload

2013-12-14 Thread Bob Morrison
Thank you for the assurance in my thinking here. Like you said, a policies do this and what is most likely the limiting factor is # service class periods. My take is usually for the higher importance workloads, I tend not to mess around with mixing them. The intent of the note what just to get

Re: WLM Mixed Workload

2013-12-14 Thread Martin Packer
://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Bob Morrison bob.morri...@siriuscom.com To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Date: 14/12/2013 13:19 Subject:Re: WLM Mixed Workload Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Thanks Martin

Re: WLM Mixed Workload

2013-12-13 Thread Ed Finnell
Get thee to _www.watsonwalker.com_ (http://www.watsonwalker.com) If you're not a subscriber there's still white papers. There's also products like Goal Tender that will enable you to analyze your data for your objectives. In a message dated 12/13/2013 2:54:45 P.M. Central Standard Time,

Re: WLM Mixed Workload

2013-12-13 Thread Staller, Allan
As far as I can tell, the DP of the CICS address spaces will float depending on the loved ones. DB2 is just along for the ride. My suggestion (since transaction goals are in use) is to experiment w/DB2 in a separate service class. BTW, are you using goals for DDF workloads? snip Scenario is,

Re: WLM Mixed Workload

2013-12-13 Thread Martin Packer
Blog: https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker From: Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Date: 13/12/2013 21:57 Subject:Re: WLM Mixed Workload Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu

Re: WLM Mixed Workload

2013-12-13 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 14:44:38 -0600, Bob Morrison wrote: I have a what do you think question I would like to ask concerning mixing workload types into a single service class. ... ... but does anyone have an opinion? Sure - bad idea. The more disparate the workloads, the badderer an idea it is.

Re: WLM Reporting Classes

2013-08-16 Thread Staller, Allan
Check out sub-rules in the JES classification routines SERVRPT TC P PRODP TN AP* PRODPAP TN AR* PRODPAR TC Q PRODQ TN AP* PRODQAP TN AR*

Re: WLM Report Class not cutting records

2013-07-26 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
I think you are correct in your suspicion that the new policy is the cause. Changing the resource cap can't produce your problem, but maybe he or someone else made a change to the policy earlier, that was activated too at the moment the reportclass stopped logging. Possible causes in the policy

Re: WLM managed workload

2013-07-25 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Assunto: Re: WLM managed workload Allan, With WLM managing where work is initiated, I meant, that, when more capacity is needed, WLM starts WLM Managed Initiators where capacity is available and stops them on systems that are full. By means of this it has control over where jobs

Re: WLM managed workload

2013-07-25 Thread Munif Sadek
Thanks Kees Ituriel, Still i am struggling to tell WLM how PI of a workload may have different acceptance level on different LPARs. For Me I just would like WLM to schedule workload on one LPAR unless that LPAR can't run it or is not available. I know i can do that by establishing/

Re: WLM managed workload

2013-07-24 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Hello Munif, WLM takes the load and performance of LPARs in consideration, by starting and stopping WLM Managed Initiators on systems that have capacity available or are overloaded. But it does this very coarse, putting a line at 95% utilization. When you have several LPARs that are running

Re: WLM managed workload

2013-07-24 Thread Staller, Allan
WLM considers all LPARs within the sysplex to be equal. WLM by itself, has no control over where the work is initiated. In conjunction with JES2 at the z/OS 2.4 level and higher, the ability was created to allow work to be started via workload managed initiators. Without going into the

Re: WLM managed workload

2013-07-24 Thread Staller, Allan
snip With WLM managing where work is initiated, I meant, that, when more capacity is needed, WLM starts WLM Managed Initiators where capacity is available and stops them on systems that are full. By means of this it has control over where jobs in WLM managed jobclasses are initiated and doint

Re: WLM Intelligent Resource Director (was Defined capacity)

2013-02-27 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
The relation between IRD and Hiperdispatch is mentioned in Hiperdispatch docs and in Katy's presentation: Hiperdispatch takes over (disables) IRD's Vary CPU management. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Alvaro

Re: WLM Intelligent Resource Director (was Defined capacity)

2013-02-27 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-02-27 09:00, Alvaro Guirao Lopez pisze: Very interesting thread... casually I was reading about IRD when I saw this mail in my inbox :-))) [...] I didn't see any shop with IRD, but seems that it's useful for large shops, with multiple LPARs in several Sysplex. AFAIK IRD works

Re: WLM Intelligent Resource Director (was Defined capacity)

2013-02-27 Thread Horst Sinram
Now we know, that Hiperdispatch also disables fundamental IRD functionality. That statement is not correct: - HiperDispatch *replaces* Vary CPU Management (and only when HiperDispatch=YES.) - HiperDispatch provides *more* functionality and is much more efficient and faster than the old Vary

Re: WLM Intelligent Resource Director (was Defined capacity)

2013-02-27 Thread Evren O Baran
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Re: WLM Intelligent Resource Director (was Defined capacity)

2013-02-27 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
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Re: WLM Intelligent Resource Director (was Defined capacity)

2013-02-27 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Of Alvaro Guirao Lopez Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 15:26 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: WLM Intelligent Resource Director (was Defined capacity) One colleague told me that they have marked WLM managed (IRD) in some LPARs, but they don't have Parallel Sysplex, so they didn't

Re: WLM Resource Group not working.

2012-08-30 Thread Jan Vanbrabant
- Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] Im Auftrag von Ron Hawkins Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. August 2012 18:52 An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: WLM Resource Group not working. Kees, I've just done some trial and error setup for a service unit based

Re: WLM Resource Group not working.

2012-08-30 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: WLM Resource Group not working. snip 3) The LPAR involved runs on a 2817-503, so a 3 CP, 204 MSU z196, of which I want to give and limit 2 MSU to CICS Devl/Acc. 200 SU/hr = 555 SU/sec. I also tried 3 CP percents (option 3) which also equals 2 MSU

Re: WLM Resource Group not working.

2012-08-30 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
such generator.   I have the RG max. for your RG for this machine and based on your below at 846. From: Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 10:49 AM Subject: Re: WLM Resource Group not working

Re: WLM Resource Group not working.

2012-08-29 Thread Staller, Allan
1) have you placed the tasks in the appropriate service classes to be linked with the RG? 2) Are you using transaction goals or velocity goals. 3) Perhaps you might want a processor cap as opposed to a SYSPLEX cap (Option 3). Are you saying that your sysplex has an aggregate of 2 million SU/sec?

Re: WLM Resource Group not working.

2012-08-29 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
1) yes, and mainview confirms this. 2) Velocities. 3) The LPAR involved runs on a 2817-503, so a 3 CP, 204 MSU z196, of which I want to give and limit 2 MSU to CICS Devl/Acc. 200 SU/hr = 555 SU/sec. I also tried 3 CP percents (option 3) which also equals 2 MSU (204/3*.03=2) but this gives

Re: WLM Resource Group not working.

2012-08-29 Thread Staller, Allan
snip 3) The LPAR involved runs on a 2817-503, so a 3 CP, 204 MSU z196, of which I want to give and limit 2 MSU to CICS Devl/Acc. 200 SU/hr = 555 SU/sec. I also tried 3 CP percents (option 3) which also equals 2 MSU (204/3*.03=2) but this gives similar results. WLM is not willing to cut the

Re: WLM Resource Group not working.

2012-08-29 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:51:07 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: I implemented a Resource Group to limit the CPU consumption of our CICS Devl and Acc systems, but I can't get the RG to do what I want. I want to limit the group to 2 MSU, so I gave the RG a max of

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