Re: Installing HSM or rather: DFHSM woes

2013-07-04 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
Alan, You can issue F DFHSM,RELEASE MIGRATION, but it will most likely be held again immediately when the first migration is attempted. I got up the nerve to issue the command this morning (after all, the cycle is still defined to not start by itself). HSM said: ARC0100I RELEASE COMMAND

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 7/3/2013 12:11 PM, Kirk Talman wrote: As a certified alte kacker, I would like to comment on what this tells us about the state of mainframe IT. Somewhat off topic, but if that was supposed to be German, it's wrong. I only have a rudimentary knowledge of Yiddish, but I believe it's wrong

Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-04 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Mark IV had a ruler too... On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Anthony Babonas tonybabo...@icloud.com wrote: Rising to the defense of RPG, what other language had its own ruler? Talk about ease of coding! Ah the nostalgia.sigh. Sent from Tony's iPhone. On Jul 3, 2013, at 9:50 PM, John

Re: I am getting a wait state during IPL

2013-07-04 Thread John Gilmore
Nor is there is any 65-bit support 'in' z/OS. I suspect that what we have here is not a dubious, heterodox hardware notion but something much more benign, a typo. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Installing HSM or rather: DFHSM woes

2013-07-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Barbara, Is this in the ARCCMDxx member? Or is it being issued as a command? If in the ARCCMDxx can you try doing a F dfhsmtaskname,SETSYS TAPEMIGRATION(NONE) and let us know what happens? If in the ARCCMDxx can you post a few lines above and below the Tapemigration line? DFHSM was not meant

Re: Installing HSM or rather: DFHSM woes

2013-07-04 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
Is this in the ARCCMDxx member? Or is it being issued as a command? Doesn't matter. Doesn't work either way, gets the same error message. If in the ARCCMDxx can you post a few lines above and below the Tapemigration line? SETSYS -

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Steve Comstock
On 7/3/2013 10:26 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: Assuming that IPCS is available to the application staff. In some shops it is not generally available, but reserved for the systems staff. And there is the issue of training in the product, which isn't always available either (outside of

Re: Installing HSM or rather: DFHSM woes

2013-07-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
There are a couple of Share presentations on DFHSM Best Practises Setting Up DFHSM And so forth. If you like some of them, email me offlist Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of nitz-...@gmx.net Sent: Thursday,

Re: Announcing PCRE 8.33 for native z/OS

2013-07-04 Thread Don Imbriale
If things haven't been locked down too much, you might try ISPF command DDLIST, then subcommand LI to display linklist. Other tools such as PDSMAN also provide similar functions to display system components such as linklist. - Don Imbriale On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Farley, Peter x23353

Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-04 Thread Phil Smith
David Crayford wrote: Perl is definately ugly. It has a very large and cryptic grammar which makes it difficult to learn. I find it unpleasant to program in but I also dislike most shell scripting languages. The best thing about perl is the command line hacks. This is why I always say I have

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
S0C7 is the most simple cause of abend I can imagine. The only problem is to find the position in the program (that is: the source line) where the error occured. If you have this, you know the name of the variable causing the error, and the rest is a piece of cake. To get this, you need no

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Richard Pinion
B37s. --- bernd.oppol...@t-online.de wrote: From: Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:01:29 +0200 S0C7 is the most simple cause of abend I

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Ok. In this case you need no dump analysis; the error message is sufficient (as is the case with many system errors, for example S806 - system cannot find module XYZ ...). One of the first statements in my dump analysis handout: we normally only cover S0Cx errors - for most other errors we don't

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread John Gilmore
Bernd has summarized this situation more than adequately. Norma Mowry did not provide us with full information about the COBOL compiler that produced the offending program, but if it is a fairly recent Enterprise COBOL compiler it would, given the right compiler options, almost certainly be

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Steve Comstock
On 7/4/2013 9:21 AM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: Ok. In this case you need no dump analysis; the error message is sufficient (as is the case with many system errors, for example S806 - system cannot find module XYZ ...). One of the first statements in my dump analysis handout: we normally only cover

Orphaned ICF catalog in the VVDS

2013-07-04 Thread Rouse, Willie
I have run an IDCAMS diagnose on a volume to find non-existent catalog entries . I tried DELETE VVR/NVR/TRUENAME to no avail. How can I get rid of the stranded catalog references in the VVDS? Respectfully, Willie C. Rouse Senior Mainframe Consultant Prince George's County, Maryland Office of

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Richard Pinion wrote: B37s. 222 is easier to handle ;-D Ok, perhaps 322, 722, 822 or 878 are also easy. 622 is somewhat difficult to explain to an angry TSO user, but manageable. My users don't like 722 for obvious reasons. I wonder why, oh, why? ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
If you have an LE Dump (CEEDUMP, CEESNAP), it's still easier, because LE gives you the traceback of the function or procedure calls, where you find all the information including the offsets I mentioned in my previous post, and you don't even need to do any calculations. If you compiled your

Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-04 Thread Tony Babonas
Wow! Never heard of the language but I'm envious. On 7/4/2013 5:59 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: Mark IV had a ruler too... On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Anthony Babonas tonybabo...@icloud.com wrote: Rising to the defense of RPG, what other language had its own ruler? Talk about ease of

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Skip Robinson
It's a bona fide US holiday, which trumps even Friday. I should not take on someone with a bona fide Germanic name, but German happens to be the closest thing I have to a (distant) second language. (Der) alter Kacker is the masculine singular. Definite article 'der' changes adjective from

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 7/4/2013 1:43 PM, Skip Robinson wrote: Definite article 'der' changes adjective from marked masculine 'alter' to 'alte'. As opposed to indefinite article as in 'ein alter Mann'. That's why I put the definite articles in parenthesis. In Kirk's original post, he used the indefinite article,

Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-04 Thread Scott Ford
Working most of these..RPG was a bit of challenge ..easytrieve wasn't too , but I have In SAS..now MarkIV, haven't heard of that one. I also learned Assembler, Cobol and the PL/1 ...like several of the guys I liked PL/1 ... Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through

Re: Future of COBOL based on RDz policies was Re: RDz or RDzEnterprise developers

2013-07-04 Thread Clark Morris
On 21 Jun 2013 11:26:53 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 15:18 -0300, Clark Morris wrote: And IBM thinks COBOL is the language of the future. Right and I sell bridges. Well... that's what Tom Ross says anyway. You'd dispute Tom? I realize that this is

Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-04 Thread Rich Greenberg
In article b870629719727b4ba82a6c06a31c291239e0fad...@hqmailsvr01.voltage.com you write: In an alternate universe, Rexx had the equivalent of CPAN created by the community, and we all use it instead...and are much happier. Hi Phil, I have been following this thread wondering if someone would

Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-04 Thread Rich Greenberg
In article 20130704194045.f3e3824...@panix5.panix.com you write: In article b870629719727b4ba82a6c06a31c291239e0fad...@hqmailsvr01.voltage.com you write: In an alternate universe, Rexx had the equivalent of CPAN created by the community, and we all use it instead...and are much happier. Hi Phil,

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It's a bona fide US holiday, which trumps even Friday. I disagree. Many on the list are not Americans. You didn't hear any of we Canadians trumpeting our holiday on July 1st. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL

Re: Announcing PCRE 8.33 for native z/OS

2013-07-04 Thread Ze'ev Atlas
Frank and Peter Would you be so kind to share the JCL needed to compile it in any flavor please. I do not mind whether somebody use PCRE or opting to use the Posix compliant IBM supplied modules, both are fine for any simple (or even semi-complex) regex (if you know what to expect from Posix

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread zMan
Ted, that would be locality of reference. I suppose you'd complain if someone in Australia said It's Friday, because many on the list aren't Australian? Sheesh. Over-sensitive Canadians... On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: It's a bona fide US holiday, which

Re: PDSE Issue

2013-07-04 Thread Robert Hahne
There is a share presentation out there for PDSE best practices

Re: Announcing PCRE 8.33 for native z/OS

2013-07-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
[Replying again from my work account since my Google Groups reply did not make it to the list - I forgot that is a one-way gateway] Based on a brief review, this text of the pcre man pages says yes to all of those: http://www.pcre.org/pcre.txt Though not, of course, the Perl-only pattern

Re: Announcing PCRE 8.33 for native z/OS

2013-07-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Ze'ev, I would if I could. I used our shop-standard SCLM system to store and compile the test program, and most of that translate process is driven by a complex series of Rexx exec's, not JCL. I do have some compile-and-link-outside-the-SCLM JCL though, so when I get a chance I will retest

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I don't like the Friday digressions! Sheesh. Insensitive Americans... - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013

Re: Announcing PCRE 8.33 for native z/OS

2013-07-04 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I was talking about SCEELKED at run time, no compile time.  It's (or SCEELKEX for lower-case entry points) definitely required at compile time for static calls, and that works.  But when I tried dynamic calls, even with SCEERUN in the linklist, it said it couldn't find the REG* modules.

Re: Announcing PCRE 8.33 for native z/OS

2013-07-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 2097080765646466.wa.zatlas1yahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on 07/03/2013 at 08:36 PM, Ze'ev Atlas zatl...@yahoo.com said: compatible with Perl Which Perl? 7. I contemplated interfacing with Rexx, but I cannot come with specific well defined API that would agree with that language. The obvious

Re: I am getting a wait state during IPL

2013-07-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cae1xxdfdyi9taobsej9fwe-vmosgjvm9xjbnzvhpkj5fxrx...@mail.gmail.com, on 07/04/2013 at 07:20 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said: Nor is there is any 65-bit support 'in' z/OS. I suspect that what we have here is not a dubious, heterodox hardware notion but something much more benign,

Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In b870629719727b4ba82a6c06a31c291239e0fad...@hqmailsvr01.voltage.com, on 07/04/2013 at 05:54 AM, Phil Smith p...@voltage.com said: In an alternate universe, Rexx had the equivalent of CPAN created by the community, and we all use it instead...and are much happier. In an alternate universe

Re: I am getting a wait state during IPL

2013-07-04 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 7/4/2013 2:07 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: When did you start considering typos to be benign? Probably when it is obviously a typo. Now on the other hand, if someone mentions 32-bit addressing in relation to MVS/XA, the statement is ambiguous. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford,

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread zMan
Ah. So it was really a comment on topic drift--I'm with ya there! On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: I don't like the Friday digressions! Sheesh. Insensitive Americans... - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original

Re: Announcing PCRE 8.33 for native z/OS

2013-07-04 Thread Ze'ev Atlas
Which Perl? I am using v5.14.2 7. I contemplated interfacing with Rexx, but I cannot come with specific well defined API that would agree with that language. The obvious way is to return, e.g., capture buffers, %+ and %- in REXX variables. I will look into that when I get to it. Thank you.