Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-04 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Mark IV had a ruler too... On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Anthony Babonas wrote: > Rising to the defense of RPG, what other language had its own ruler? Talk > about ease of coding! Ah the nostalgia.sigh. > > Sent from Tony's iPhone. > > On Jul 3, 2013, at 9:50 PM, John McKown wrote: > >> I

Re: I am getting a wait state during IPL

2013-07-04 Thread John Gilmore
Nor is there is any 65-bit support 'in' z/OS. I suspect that what we have here is not a dubious, heterodox hardware notion but something much more benign, a typo. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Installing HSM or rather: DFHSM woes

2013-07-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
Barbara, Is this in the ARCCMDxx member? Or is it being issued as a command? If in the ARCCMDxx can you try doing a F dfhsmtaskname,SETSYS TAPEMIGRATION(NONE) and let us know what happens? If in the ARCCMDxx can you post a few lines above and below the Tapemigration line? DFHSM was not meant to

Re: Installing HSM or rather: DFHSM woes

2013-07-04 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
> Is this in the ARCCMDxx member? Or is it being issued as a command? Doesn't matter. Doesn't work either way, gets the same error message. > If in the ARCCMDxx can you post a few lines above and below the > Tapemigration line? SETSYS - O

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Steve Comstock
On 7/3/2013 10:26 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: Assuming that IPCS is available to the application staff. In some shops it is not generally available, but reserved for the systems staff. And there is the issue of training in the product, which isn't always available either (outside of read

Re: Installing HSM or rather: DFHSM woes

2013-07-04 Thread Lizette Koehler
There are a couple of Share presentations on DFHSM Best Practises Setting Up DFHSM And so forth. If you like some of them, email me offlist Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of nitz-...@gmx.net Sent: Thursday, Ju

Re: Announcing PCRE 8.33 for native z/OS

2013-07-04 Thread Don Imbriale
If things haven't been locked down too much, you might try ISPF command DDLIST, then subcommand LI to display linklist. Other tools such as PDSMAN also provide similar functions to display system components such as linklist. - Don Imbriale On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 <

Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-04 Thread Phil Smith
David Crayford wrote: >Perl is definately ugly. It has a very large and cryptic grammar which makes >it difficult to learn. I find it unpleasant to >program in but I also dislike most shell scripting languages. The best thing >about perl is the command line hacks. This is why I always say I have

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
S0C7 is the most simple cause of abend I can imagine. The only problem is to find the position in the program (that is: the source line) where the error occured. If you have this, you know the name of the variable causing the error, and the rest is a piece of cake. To get this, you need no to

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Richard Pinion
B37s. --- bernd.oppol...@t-online.de wrote: From: Bernd Oppolzer To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 17:01:29 +0200 S0C7 is the most simple cause of abend I can imagine. The only proble

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
Ok. In this case you need no dump analysis; the error message is sufficient (as is the case with many system errors, for example S806 - system cannot find module XYZ ...). One of the first statements in my dump analysis handout: we normally only cover S0Cx errors - for most other errors we don't

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread John Gilmore
Bernd has summarized this situation more than adequately. Norma Mowry did not provide us with full information about the COBOL compiler that produced the offending program, but if it is a fairly recent Enterprise COBOL compiler it would, given the right compiler options, almost certainly be possib

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Steve Comstock
On 7/4/2013 9:21 AM, Bernd Oppolzer wrote: Ok. In this case you need no dump analysis; the error message is sufficient (as is the case with many system errors, for example S806 - system cannot find module XYZ ...). One of the first statements in my dump analysis handout: we normally only cover S

Orphaned ICF catalog in the VVDS

2013-07-04 Thread Rouse, Willie
I have run an IDCAMS diagnose on a volume to find non-existent catalog entries . I tried DELETE VVR/NVR/TRUENAME to no avail. How can I get rid of the stranded catalog references in the VVDS? Respectfully, Willie C. Rouse Senior Mainframe Consultant Prince George's County, Maryland Office of Inf

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Richard Pinion wrote: >B37s. 222 is easier to handle ;-D Ok, perhaps 322, 722, 822 or 878 are also easy. 622 is somewhat difficult to explain to an angry TSO user, but manageable. My users don't like 722 for obvious reasons. I wonder why, oh, why? ;-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
If you have an LE Dump (CEEDUMP, CEESNAP), it's still easier, because LE gives you the traceback of the function or procedure calls, where you find all the information including the offsets I mentioned in my previous post, and you don't even need to do any calculations. If you compiled your progra

Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-04 Thread Tony Babonas
Wow! Never heard of the language but I'm envious. On 7/4/2013 5:59 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: Mark IV had a ruler too... On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Anthony Babonas wrote: Rising to the defense of RPG, what other language had its own ruler? Talk about ease of coding! Ah the nostalgia..

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Skip Robinson
It's a bona fide US holiday, which trumps even Friday. I should not take on someone with a bona fide Germanic name, but German happens to be the closest thing I have to a (distant) second language. "(Der) alter Kacker is the masculine singular." Definite article 'der' changes adjective from ma

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 7/4/2013 1:43 PM, Skip Robinson wrote: Definite article 'der' changes adjective from marked masculine 'alter' to 'alte'. As opposed to indefinite article as in 'ein alter Mann'. That's why I put the definite articles in parenthesis. In Kirk's original post, he used the indefinite article, w

Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-04 Thread Scott Ford
Working most of these..RPG was a bit of challenge ..easytrieve wasn't too , but I have In SAS..now MarkIV, haven't heard of that one. I also learned Assembler, Cobol and the PL/1 ...like several of the guys I liked PL/1 ... Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through

Re: Future of COBOL based on RDz policies was Re: RDz or RDzEnterprise developers

2013-07-04 Thread Clark Morris
On 21 Jun 2013 11:26:53 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >On Fri, 2013-06-21 at 15:18 -0300, Clark Morris wrote: >> And IBM thinks COBOL is the language of the future. Right and I sell >> bridges. > >Well... that's what Tom Ross says anyway. You'd dispute Tom? I realize that this is

Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-04 Thread Rich Greenberg
In article you write: >In an alternate universe, Rexx had the equivalent of CPAN created by the >community, and we all use it instead...and are much happier. Hi Phil, I have been following this thread wondering if someone would mention Rexx. My favorite language. Thanks. -- Rich Greenberg

Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-04 Thread Rich Greenberg
In article <20130704194045.f3e3824...@panix5.panix.com> you write: >In article > you >write: > >>In an alternate universe, Rexx had the equivalent of CPAN created by the >>community, and we all use it instead...and are much happier. > >Hi Phil, >I have been following this thread wondering if someon

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>It's a bona fide US holiday, which trumps even Friday. I disagree. Many on the list are not Americans. You didn't hear any of we Canadians trumpeting our holiday on July 1st. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL ---

Re: Announcing PCRE 8.33 for native z/OS

2013-07-04 Thread Ze'ev Atlas
Frank and Peter Would you be so kind to share the JCL needed to compile it in any flavor please. I do not mind whether somebody use PCRE or opting to use the Posix compliant IBM supplied modules, both are fine for any simple (or even semi-complex) regex (if you know what to expect from Posix vs.

Re: Announcing PCRE 8.33 for native z/OS

2013-07-04 Thread Ze'ev Atlas
As far as I can tell virtually all that is supported by Perl is supported by PCRE, including all what Shmuel had mentioned. ZA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread zMan
Ted, that would be locality of reference. I suppose you'd complain if someone in Australia said "It's Friday", because many on the list aren't Australian? Sheesh. Over-sensitive Canadians... On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > >It's a bona fide US holiday, which trumps even Fr

Re: PDSE Issue

2013-07-04 Thread Robert Hahne
There is a share presentation out there for PDSE best practices https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&ved=0CD8QFjAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fshare.confex.com%2Fshare%2F120%2Fwebprogram%2FHandout%2FSession12981%2FSHARE%2520PDSE%2520Best%2520Practices.pdf&ei=YtzVUc2_N4j

Re: Announcing PCRE 8.33 for native z/OS

2013-07-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
[Replying again from my work account since my Google Groups reply did not make it to the list - I forgot that is a one-way gateway] Based on a brief review, this text of the pcre man pages says yes to all of those: http://www.pcre.org/pcre.txt Though not, of course, the Perl-only pattern fea

Re: Announcing PCRE 8.33 for native z/OS

2013-07-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Ze'ev, I would if I could. I used our shop-standard SCLM system to store and compile the test program, and most of that translate process is driven by a complex series of Rexx exec's, not JCL. I do have some compile-and-link-outside-the-SCLM JCL though, so when I get a chance I will retest th

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I don't like the Friday digressions! Sheesh. Insensitive Americans... - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: zMan Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 16:30:43 To: Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discus

Re: Announcing PCRE 8.33 for native z/OS

2013-07-04 Thread Frank Swarbrick
I was talking about SCEELKED at run time, no compile time.  It's (or SCEELKEX for lower-case entry points) definitely required at compile time for static calls, and that works.  But when I tried dynamic calls, even with SCEERUN in the linklist, it said it couldn't find the REG* modules. >___

Re: Announcing PCRE 8.33 for native z/OS

2013-07-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <2097080765646466.wa.zatlas1yahoo@listserv.ua.edu>, on 07/03/2013 at 08:36 PM, "Ze'ev Atlas" said: >compatible with Perl Which Perl? >7. I contemplated interfacing with Rexx, but I cannot come with >specific well defined API that would agree with that language. The obvious way is to

Re: I am getting a wait state during IPL

2013-07-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 07/04/2013 at 07:20 AM, John Gilmore said: >Nor is there is any 65-bit support 'in' z/OS. I suspect that what >we have here is not a dubious, heterodox hardware notion but >something much more benign, a typo. When did you start considering typos to be benign? -- Shmuel (Seym

Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-04 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 07/04/2013 at 05:54 AM, Phil Smith said: >In an alternate universe, Rexx had the equivalent of CPAN created by >the community, and we all use it instead...and are much happier. In an alternate universe the standard REXX for CMS and TSO is OREXX with full block structuring, ranges, reg

Re: I am getting a wait state during IPL

2013-07-04 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 7/4/2013 2:07 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: When did you start considering typos to be benign? Probably when it is obviously a typo. Now on the other hand, if someone mentions 32-bit addressing in relation to MVS/XA, the statement is ambiguous. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, Vermont

Re: Question on how to debug S0C7 (data exception) abend

2013-07-04 Thread zMan
Ah. So it was really a comment on topic drift--I'm with ya there! On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > I don't like the Friday digressions! > > > Sheesh. Insensitive Americans... > > - > Ted MacNEIL > eamacn...@yahoo.ca > Twitter: @TedMacNEIL > > -Original Message- > Fro

Re: Announcing PCRE 8.33 for native z/OS

2013-07-04 Thread Ze'ev Atlas
>Which Perl? I am using v5.14.2 >7. I contemplated interfacing with Rexx, but I cannot come with >specific well defined API that would agree with that language. >The obvious way is to return, e.g., capture buffers, %+ and %- in REXX >variables. I will look into that when I get to it. Thank you.

Re: What programmer's fear (not IBM specific)

2013-07-04 Thread Martin Packer
If that's true in Another World I wonder what it'd take to make it true in THIS one. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: