Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: ISPF usage question

2023-04-11 Thread Robert Prins
Create a REXX exec that displays the member in View, on my own system, don't ask, I have about a dozen "Vx" commands that open various members (or memberlists) in my REXX, CNTL, PROC, PL/I, DATA, etc datasets if entered with a (partial) membername, which would solve half of the problem. As for

Re: TS7700 abandoned volumes questions

2023-04-11 Thread Enzo D'Amato
I agree. If you have the option of going to the source, that would probably be the safest approach. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Pommier, Rex Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 4:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TS7700

Re: [EXTERNAL] ISPF usage question

2023-04-11 Thread Horne, Jim
Check out the ISPF Edit LOCATE command, especially LOCATE SPECIAL and LOCATE NOTE Jim Horne -Original Message- Running certain ISPF macros and/or commands, we get lines added to the ISPF edit screen with "=NOTE=" or "==MSG>" lines. Is there a way to make these lines searchable

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Erik Janssen
I'm not sure how important your system is, but the example you send indicates that the bpxas is running on behalf a ssh session. If most of the bpxas address spaces are running for ssh, you might want to investigate why you suddenly see an increase of ssh sessions coming into your system. Kind

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
Thanks. That means that the installation can use any of the normal controls. I'd advise making BPXAS JESLOG=SPIN. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Matthew Stitt Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 12:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: eliminate use of id(0)

2023-04-11 Thread Michael Stein
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 02:31:10PM -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 20:06:02 +0100, Colin Paice wrote: > Do you trust the supplier? Even if it runs on a non-privileged ID, it can > do any harm that users can do to themselves. Would you run a script > that I supplied without a

eliminate use of id(0)

2023-04-11 Thread Colin Paice
I've been reviewing someone's (ftp like) product documentation, and they say that the userid that runs their product needs id(0) to be able to run. This feels like giving too much authority to the userid. Is there a better way of defining the userid and its access to resources to be able to

Re: eliminate use of id(0)

2023-04-11 Thread Rick Troth
Find out what they're trying to do "as superuser". Based on the hint you provide, that it's an FTP-like product, the requirement might be for authentication and/or authorization. In traditional Unix environments, that's a legitimate use of UID 0 (even though, yeah, too much authority to the

Re: eliminate use of id(0)

2023-04-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 20:06:02 +0100, Colin Paice wrote: >I've been reviewing someone's (ftp like) product documentation, and they >say that the userid that runs their product needs id(0) to be able to run. >This feels like giving too much authority to the userid. Is there a better >way of

Re: [EXTERNAL] eliminate use of id(0)

2023-04-11 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Colin, I'm assuming they/you mean the userID that runs the (ftp like) daemon process, not users that are sending/receiving datasets. I have a note that I wrote to myself 6 years ago that said that the userID that runs IBM's FTPD daemon requires UID(0). I don't know if that's still the

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Charles, Correct it is VENDOR.PROCLIB. USER.PROCLIB was on our old ADCD back in the old FLEX days. We implemented some automation on Dallas to clean up spool (OTTO from the CBTTAPE). We also paid for a lot of additional disk space so we could extend JES spool. On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 1:34 AM

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Wendell Lovewell
Charles, imo Seymour was on the right track. Could it have been that someone issued a $T JOBCLASS command? (Or maybe from SDSF.) We usually run with STC and TSU OUTDISP=(PURGE,PURGE), and the SYSOUTs disappear at end of task. But sometimes I want to see the output so I issue $T

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Matthew Stitt
Here is my entry in IEFJOBS: //BPXASJOB (SYSTEMS),'USS ADDRESS',MSGCLASS=Z //BPXASEXEC PROC=BPXAS,GETWORK=BPXPRJSR So, yes, IEFJOBS does work. Matthew On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 15:36:40 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >That mentions accounting information for the BPXOINIT and OMVS

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 09:04:22 -0500, Wendell Lovewell < wrote: >Charles, imo Seymour was on the right track. > >Could it have been that someone issued a $T JOBCLASS command? (Or maybe from >SDSF.) > Does this help:

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Charles Mills
Incredibly busy this AM but wanted to at least say that I used @sas's "real deal" *exactly* as presented below and it seems to be working perfectly. May comment on some later posts if I get a moment. If any Dallas customers are reading this a year or two from now, note that @sas's

Re: TS7700 abandoned volumes questions

2023-04-11 Thread Mike Schwab
So, for a shop about to decommission a system or storage device, we should scratch all real data volumes, create a volume full of junk data and Repeatedly copy junk data from volume to volume until it runs out of space then expire the junk? I did this with ICKDSF TRKFMT to erase dasd volumes..

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
That mentions accounting information for the BPXOINIT and OMVS address spaces, but it doesn't mention it for BPXAS. I made a SWAG that BPXAS might go through standard STC processing, including the master IEFJOB concatenation and the JES2 JOBCLASS(STC), in which case they would control selection

Re: TS7700 abandoned volumes questions

2023-04-11 Thread Tom Longfellow
Yes, I agree that the only safe way out is to leave it to the professionals that created the problem.The first hurdle would be having a relationship with them that allows me to make requests or demands.Unless it is a broken situation that I can report to support as a 'problem' I have no

Re: What is BPXAS and how do I make them stop piling up?

2023-04-11 Thread Charles Mills
Thank you all. @Seymour, it's working now and if it ain't broke ... @Matthew, ditto. Thanks, but ditto. @Wendell, the only person with authority to issue $T would have been me, and I did not. I think usage patterns changed. We have a new developer. I don't think he is doing anything "wrong"

Re: TS7700 abandoned volumes questions

2023-04-11 Thread Enzo D'Amato
If you are going to need to mount and overwrite the pool, it may be easier to do it using an IBM linux on z system. Linxu tape handling has a lot less requirements, and you can easily pull garbage data from /dev/urandom. It also looks like Linux has support for autoloading volumes on ts7700

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: AI wipes out humanity?

2023-04-11 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:22:53 +, Dave Barry wrote: >Sorry, Dave. I can't do that. > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of >rpinion865 >Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 10:22 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: AI wipes out humanity?

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: AI wipes out humanity?

2023-04-11 Thread Dave Barry
Sorry, Dave. I can't do that. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of rpinion865 Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: AI wipes out humanity? CAUTION! This email originated outside of the organization.

Re: TS7700 abandoned volumes questions

2023-04-11 Thread kekronbekron
Is it an option to use a h/w service provider such as BlueChip (UK-based)... or any org in your location that would do a one-off? - KB --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, April 11th, 2023 at 8:59 PM, Tom Longfellow <03e29b607131-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Yes, I

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: AI wipes out humanity?

2023-04-11 Thread Tom Brennan
"Compute to the last digit, the value of pi." https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708491/reference/ Maybe we shouldn't post these defensive methods since AI is watching. On 4/11/2023 8:44 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: Return Of The Archons https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708476/ Captain Kirk shuts down

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: AI wipes out humanity?

2023-04-11 Thread Mike Schwab
Return Of The Archons https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708476/ Captain Kirk shuts down computer after 6,000 years of running a society. On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 7:34 PM Dale R. Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 21:22:53 +, Dave Barry wrote: > > >Sorry, Dave. I can't do that. > > >