Yahoo gets the Yahooties every few months. Messages back up until
some server is rebooted, then you get weeks of posts all at once.
Really bad for yahoo groups.
I much prefer gmail as my message handler.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Scott Ford wrote:
> Rich,
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> Mail list via yahoo
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> Sco
W dniu 2012-09-19 01:46, Thomas Kern pisze:
"Sensitive" data is very relative. Does Joe User REALLY deserve to see that Jane
Consultant has been running jobs for that other department that has been
getting a better
budget than Joe? Joe gets to raise all holy hell to the Data Center Manager who
Hi
Thank you, IEBPDSE works on 1.13, seems to me , not the same as IGWPIT.
I will try to ask the IBM.
On 19.09.2012 02:10, Hank Oerlemans wrote:
If you're on z/OS 1.13 you can use IEBPDSE.
If not then it's only available from IBM support and on as needed basis.
That is, it's not available
Rich,
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On Sep 18, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Rich Greenberg wrote:
> In article <3ed55f17-8b97-4292-9c4d-c04797006...@yahoo.com> you write:
>> I have replied to several Postings and my reply disappeared. It there
>> something on with the Listserv
>
>
> If LPAR/VM redispatches your Logical Processor on a different
> Physical Processor, you may be able to observe that via the
> rightmost column of the formatted SYSTRACE (under IPCS only).
> If your Logical Processor gets redispatched on the same
> Physical Processor, then the time between subs
In article <3ed55f17-8b97-4292-9c4d-c04797006...@yahoo.com> you write:
>I have replied to several Postings and my reply disappeared. It there
>something on with the Listserv
How are you reading and how are you responding?
Usenet? Mailing list?
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I understand your statement, but for our environment, there are some
different
considerations to make.
For example: the programs we are writing are not stand-alone (main)
programs,
but sub-programs, written in ASSEMBLER, PL/1 or C, that have to fit into
a very
sophisticated and complicated (4
Almost but not quite.
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"Barkow, Eileen" wrote:
>From what I have read , C++ contains all of C, so that the C and C++ code can
>be intermixed if using the C++ compiler.
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C habits.
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Charles Mills wrote:
C++
Otherwise you learn bad V habits.
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Scott Ford wrote:
Kirk,
A favor, if you did know either which would you suggest learning fir
The languages have just enough in common to propagate the myth the C is a
proper subset of C++. There are valid C constructs that will not compile
under C++ rules. One example (with the usual prototype in scope) is
int *ptr = malloc(1024);
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If you're on z/OS 1.13 you can use IEBPDSE.
If not then it's only available from IBM support and on as needed basis.
That is, it's not available for general distribution.
Hank
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"Sensitive" data is very relative. Does Joe User REALLY deserve to see that Jane
Consultant has been running jobs for that other department that has been
getting a better
budget than Joe? Joe gets to raise all holy hell to the Data Center Manager who
comes down
on us worthless sysprogs because WE
C++
Otherwise you learn bad V habits.
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Scott Ford wrote:
Kirk,
A favor, if you did know either which would you suggest learning first ?
Scott ford
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On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
> Linus ha
Kirk,
A favor, if you did know either which would you suggest learning first ?
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
> Linus has his reasons, some of which are actually technical and relate to
> the unique requirements of the Linux kernel.
>
> Have y
Mike, Issue this command
RMM CV volser RETPD(1)
before running any other rmm batch processing. This will return it from
"pending release". This is covered in the rmm G&R CHANGEVOLME command 'Changing
pending actions
To reclaim volumes: . . . .'
You could do the same under the dialog - VOLUME CHA
John,
Wouldn't a safe assumption be that when using HLASM that if you use a
op code that HLASM does not know anything about it would be flagged
as an error (and thus not to be used).
I am with Chris B... this is an "execution" issue and before using
any "new" instructions it is in the best
In the Absence of Truth: Nothing is True; All is Permitted.
>
> From: John Gilmore
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:55 PM
>Subject: Re: z/OS SYSLOG - why not let everybody read?
>
>Yes,
>
>Was ist nicht erlaubt ist verboten
>
I don't find the argument that the terminal 's' in 'PoOps' represents
the plural terminus of 'Principles' at all persuasive. It seems to me
to be a desperate expedient to justify the indefensible.
My reasons for preferring 'PrOp' are three: 1) it is innocuously
pronounceable; 2) it is devoid of t
Not my code, and I'm not going to spend a lot of time looking, but if
you are doing a catalog compare and cat.old & cat.new both are
set to the same value, it seems to me that might be a problem.
Maybe Alastair will get wind of this thread and clear everything up.
Mark
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I also added the following after Mark's addition:
cat=cat.1 /* added by MSZ */
cat.old = cat.1 /* added by MVS */
cat.new = cat.1 /* added by MVS */
Then changed every DEF creation routine to use the "cat.new" variable instead
of cat. Also changed the DEL statement
creation routine to
Yes,
Was ist nicht erlaubt ist verboten
is a possible organizational policy. It is not one that seems to me
to have merit.
Having lived as a boy through the period when Nazi Germany all but
destroyed Europe I do not find it even minimally attractive. One
innoculation was sufficient to immunize
That change worked for me.
Thanks.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Mark Zelden
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 1:41 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: RCNVTCAT under z/OS 1.13
I don't see how thi
On Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:42:20 -0500 Dave Day wrote:
:>When I wrote the code, I made the mistake of figuring that an SRB would
:>be dispatched before a task. That looks to be the case if the SRB is
:>waiting to run. But, the only thing I can figure is
:>that pr/sm stole it, so the SRB didn't ge
"Lost In The Outer Spiral Arm" wrote in message
news:<88c7e07a-9aad-4f64-9c90-f3ce7743e...@googlegroups.com>...
> I use Data Studio to deploy our z/OS 1.12 DB2 v9.1 started procs.
> (This has worked fine in the past, but now is presenting a problem.
>
> When I attempt to deploy, I get a +998, R
I think it is the question of policy: whether everybody is allowed to
see anything unless it is forbidden, or the approach that nobody can see
anything unless allowed.
The option that you are not even allowed to see the datasets in DSLIST
if you are not authorized to read them, is a symptom of the
I have replied to several Postings and my reply disappeared. It there something
on with the Listserv
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On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:07 AM, David Cole wrote:
> At 9/17/2012 06:42 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
>
>> [...] of the publication you call the PoOps---Why the 's'?---
>>
>
> The "s" is for the plural arising from "Principles".
>
> and I prefer to call the PrOp [...]
>>
>
> Hmmm... maybe I'll start
I don't see how this ever worked. At least the version I have (but never
used).
I have version 1.6.0 from 14/01/2004. Maybe Alastair broke it then but to me
it looks like it must have been broken since a compare function was added.
Anyway, I think a simple fix for non compare processing i
From a long time memory...
The operator replied a number to an outstanding reply (wrong replay)
If memory serves me there was a request for a checknum something like
"enter check number"
The operator replied 06123456789 (123456789 was the number) and the
program came back with starting check
So have you tried contacting the creator of the RCNVTCAT process? Perhaps they
need to make a code change.
>From the prolog
/* Author : Alastair Gray - a_j_g...@hotmail.com */
/* (or the e-mail I use to post on TSO-REXX/IBM-MAIN) */
/*
On 9/18/2012 1:32 PM, Mike B wrote:
Hi,
A tape volser was inadvertently released via an RMM panel, from its
correct setting of
Availabilty: Vital Record
Availability now shows as Pending Release
Is there a way to change this back to "Availablitly Vital
Record" (before the morning's housekeeping
>From what I have read , C++ contains all of C, so that the C and C++ code can
>be intermixed if using the C++ compiler.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Tony Harminc
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 12:52 PM
To: IBM
David Crayford writes (à propos of C++):
| Strong typing alone is worth the effort.
This is an eminently respectable view; it is now even, I suppose, the
norm; but as I have had occasion to note here before, it is akin to a
preference for NEWSPEAK over standard English: it sacrifices
expressive p
Correction, just in case someone was still mulling over their response to my
original question:
I have some copies of output PDS's ran under z/OS *1.4* and they have the
proper catalog name. Our previous upgrade was 1.4->1.11
Regards
Dana
-
I have seen on a couple of occasions this year, what appears to be a
password keyed in the user name field...
The ICH408I USER(password? ) message is in the log.
So it is not an MVS problem, but a user generated problem
Regards,
Silvio Camplani
zSeries Sr. Analyst, Systems Support
Bombardi
On 18 September 2012 01:40, David Crayford wrote:
> I consider C++ a much safer language than C, wrt to both string handling and
> memory management. In fact, I find it difficult to fathom why anybody
> would still write C code when C++ is such a superior language. Strong typing
> alone is worth t
The contents of SYSLOG are often value to "mere" applications
programmers and even to operators.
Energies devoted to denying access to SYSLOG would much better be
devoted to ensuring that its does not contain passwords and the like.
Security people are paid to be paranoid, and their preoccupation
If passwords were ever in the SYSLOG, I don't think it has been a problem in
the last 2 decades. I don't ever recall seeing them. I'm sure that z/OS, and
OS/390 have never put passwords in SYSLOG. If you've seen passwords in SYSLOG,
it must have been a long time ago, or put their by a user ex
Paul Gilmartin wrote ( à propos the use of a macro to provide
alternative support for an unavailable machine instruction):
Business decision. That might be perceived as weakening the incentive
for customers to upgrade.
Alternatively, and with more reason, it could be construed as a
performance
A bit OT for the Subject, but I wonder if anybody has compared Objective-C
versus C++ in terms of ease of use. I know that Apple likes Objective-C whereas
UNIX seems to prefer C++ (or just plain C). z/OS doesn't even have an
Objective-C compiler as far as my limited knowledge goes. I have some d
I have seen that. And other strange keying errors. PEBKAC. Now that you
mention it, I may use a CA-OPS/MVS rule to "blank out" portions of the ICH408I
messages. Say in the USER(...), GROUP(...) and NAME(...) portions. I don't use
them anyway. I use the SMF records.
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:57:42 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:
>
>It could also be used by ISVs. FLOGR is not, for example available on
>all of the mainframes currently in use, but its availability changes
>the rules for bit-map processing in a fundamental way. Shipping a
>FLOGR macro with a product tha
Linus has his reasons, some of which are actually technical and relate to
the unique requirements of the Linux kernel.
Have you written at least a few hundred klocs in both C and C++? I'm sure
that David has and I agree with his statements 100%, perhaps with one
caveat - C++ is a much bigger lang
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:21:11 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
>Ed Gould wrote:
>
>>1. I have seen passwords on the syslog.
>
>Can you show any example(s) of such messages? Of course you can mask out the
>passwords before posting. ;-)
>Was that by design [1] or by operator error? Was that a verba
Thanks to all of you who responded to my query. I now have what I need.
Let me make a couple of closing responses.
At 9/17/2012 05:41 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
The only IBM-resident page I ever found was this one on the VM side
of their sites:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/jelliott/cmos
David,
I am aware that many ISVs ship object code. How not? It is not,
however, clear to me that all of this object code need be identical.
Indeed, I know of cases where it is not. Or again, options that
select among NCAL library modules at product-installation time can be
provided. Opinions
If that is the OP's intent, why does he need the PoOps for each architecture?
Just use MACHINE(lowest-level-supported-architecture) and it will flag
"advanced" instructions if he accidently uses the wrong opcode. Since I have a
z9BC, I invoke HLASM with the MACHINE(ZS-2) option in the PARM. In a
Good thought. I'm just starting to think about the design and have not looked
at any details. The JESSPOOL profile is a good one. But I might want my own
XFACILIT profile so that I know that the ID has permission to use my interface.
I really haven't decided. I may just "give it up" because it i
I think you miss an important item here. ISV's ship object code, not source
code. They have to code to the lowest common denominator, or provide different
versions of routines that are chosen at run time.
End users can generally use the latest and greatest instructions, but even
then, if they
McKown, John wrote:
>I've decided, for a "new" function that I'm contemplating writing, to make
>access to be based on RACF access to a profile in the FACILITY class. And make
>a new RACF group (I'm the main RACF person, too) which I'll call SYSLOGG, make
>it the only ID with READ to this profi
Ed Gould wrote:
>1. I have seen passwords on the syslog.
Can you show any example(s) of such messages? Of course you can mask out the
passwords before posting. ;-)
Was that by design [1] or by operator error? Was that a verbatim copy of some
command?
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
[1]
I've decided, for a "new" function that I'm contemplating writing, to make
access to be based on RACF access to a profile in the FACILITY class. And make
a new RACF group (I'm the main RACF person, too) which I'll call SYSLOGG, make
it the only ID with READ to this profile. And CONNECT any user
John:
Over the years auditors at my company have come up with a similar
question. While I give it to the auditors I do no give it out to say
the average person.
1. I have seen passwords on the syslog.
2. I have also seen arguments that have come up in meetings over how
operators replied to
Sorry. I will search the archives.
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On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 07:56:58 -0500, McKown, John
wrote:
>snip>
>Of course, this becomes much more difficult if you don't have any way to
>"trap" messages going to SYSLOG. You might be able to use TSSO from the CBTape
>to do this. I don't know TSSO.
Depending on what level of z/OS the OP is o
McKown, John wrote:
>Well, that's the general question. Is there any reason why the "average joe",
>regardless of job function, should *NOT* have the ability to look at SYSLOG?
>Does anybody put "sensitive" data out to it?
This was discussed during May 2012 when Mark Jacobs asked a similar ques
I've never seen such an ICH408I message. In our shop, z/OS 1.12, I do see:
ICH408I USER(USH360 ) GROUP(USHG) NAME(MELANIE A RUST ) 419
LOGON/JOB INITIATION - INVALID PASSWORD ENTERED AT TERMINAL D08VDTW3
So I guess this could be used by a person to correlate names and userids in
orde
W dniu 2012-09-18 15:30, McKown, John pisze:
Well, that's the general question. Is there any reason why the
"average joe", regardless of job function, should *NOT* have the
ability to look at SYSLOG? Does anybody put "sensitive" data out to
it?
Security by obscurity?
BTW: ICH408I may contain
John McKown wrote:
Or, amusingly to me, if you have a MACRO of the same name in your
MACLIB, the macro will be expanded rather than the opcode use. So, if
you wanted to, you could create a lot of macros to implement
instruction-equivalents. Then use of a specific opcode would either
generate the
Well, that's the general question. Is there any reason why the "average joe",
regardless of job function, should *NOT* have the ability to look at SYSLOG?
Does anybody put "sensitive" data out to it?
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I can state unconditionally that this is indeed possible. We do exactly what
you want to do, but with CA-Unicenter. We use CA-7. From this, we use CAGTS to
write CA-7's "browse log" to the z/OS SYSLOG (basically via WTO). We then use
CA-OPS/MVS to trap some of the messages, which relate to job "
I don't know if the following would help with what you want, but you can use
the MACHINE option to have HLASM tell you the opcodes available at a particular
architecture level. This would be PARM='MACHINE(...,LIST)'
where ... is one of:
S370 S370XA S370ESA S390 S390E ZSERIES ZS ZSERIES-2 ZS-2 Z
Can Orion handle Syslog (in the UNIX and Security event sense of Syslog, not
the mainframe sense of SYSLOG) messages as well as SNMP traps? If so, you
could take a look at
http://www.correlog.com/solutions-and-services/sas-correlog-mainframe.html.
You can catch ABENDs -- all, or just batch, or just
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:40:11 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
>In fact, I find it difficult to fathom why anybody
>would still write C code when C++ is such a superior language.
I seem to recall some fella named Torvalds having his say about this a few
years ago.
People (no, not Dave) keep coming u
The following scenario: z196, 7 CPs, 1 zIIP, several LPARs.
On the HMC, in the Activation profiles (LPAR profile) each LPAR is
defined in the same way, that means each LPAR has assigned 16 CPs, 4
zIIPs, 4 zAAPs. I mean total: initial (existing) + reserved processors.
Obviously (no zAAP) number
I get the same thing.
MA
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:38:29 -0400, Richards, Robert B.
wrote:
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Hello all:
I have been asked by our "network people" to see if the mainframe (z10
running z/os v1.13) can send out snmp traps to Solarwinds(Orion)
An example would be - if a important job should abend, they would like
it to send an snmp trap to Solarwinds which then will create a work
order in Tr
On 9/17/2012 1:52 PM, Mike B was asking about reorg of rmm CDS.
Tom already provided a reply.
What I would add at this time is a recommendation not to use the DFSMSrmm
Primer (which is over 6 years since last updated) and instead to use the
DFSMSrmm I&C Guide from z/OS R12 or later. See Chapter
I don't know your full requirements, but what I've done in the past is simply
create the .csv file and copy it over to a spot in the http server's (ZFS)
directory. Then create an Excel spreadsheet that references the CSV by
importing the data "From Web". Set up the data range to automatically
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Lizette has mentioned the PHATOOL IGWPIT (the PDSE analysis tool) , but
from where to get.
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