Re: RMM: Best, safest way to mass delete tape volumes

2013-05-08 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-05-08 03:52, Jeffery Swagger pisze: A few months ago all of our 3480/3490 tapes were destroyed. Something like over 30,000. Not to mention the REEL tapes that are still defined but non-existent. I would like to remove these from the RMM database. Something is telling me in the back

Meaningless Information in SDSF System Request panel

2013-05-08 Thread Kayhan Tanriverir
 Hi, SDSF System Request panel started to  display meaningless information after I updated consol member in SYS1.PARMLIB.  I changed MPF parameter from 00 to 01. And I added MPFLST01  member into SYS1.PARMLIB. The content of the member is suppress two commands from console: SYS1.PARMLIB

Re: Meaningless Information in SDSF System Request panel

2013-05-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Kayhan Tanriverir wrote: SDSF System Request panel started to display meaningless information after I updated consol member in SYS1.PARMLIB. Please post that screen. I changed MPF parameter from 00 to 01. And I added MPFLST01 member into SYS1.PARMLIB. The content of the member is suppress two

Re: as OpenMVS assembler always gives ASMA935U

2013-05-08 Thread Etienne Thijsse
Nope, -mGOFF does not help, it gives me the same error. But the NODECK,OBJECT suggestion does work. This works: as -o bla.o --NODECK,OBJECT bla.s Thanks, Etienne On Mon, 6 May 2013 06:01:04 -0700, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Or just specify the GOFF (-mGOFF) option which

Re: EMC 6000 Virtual Tape Drive

2013-05-08 Thread Tom Williamson
Our DCC product gives you the ability to query the DLM. Tso, batch, pc GUI, ispf interface. It can clone tapes into the dlm. Also can direct allocation so smstape does not need to be used. Www.dtssoftware.com Tom -- For

Re: Undocumented VSAM Return/reason code

2013-05-08 Thread Jantje.
On Sat, 4 May 2013 06:25:41 -0700, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: It is also possible it is one of their undocumented codes that means something to IBM internally. Even if it is, my opinion is that IBM ought to document these if only to say it is an internal, reserved,

Re: RMM: Best, safest way to mass delete tape volumes

2013-05-08 Thread David Devine
Jeff hello, firstly just to clarify the situation with the tapes as the first part of your mail states the tapes were destroyed, but the 2nd part implies they are still extant in the silo's If they still exist if you still have paths to the drives (not removed from HCD) you may want to data

Re: RMF data rentention Parm

2013-05-08 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Tue, 7 May 2013 06:45:13 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: If you want to keep more RMF data available through the RMF ISPF application, you need to create more and larger RMF VSAM datasets. Do you have the dasd available for that? It is useful on occasion to be able to pull back RMF III data -

Meaningless Information in SDSF System Request panel

2013-05-08 Thread Kayhan Tanriverir
Hi, Thank you, I saw the IEAVMXIT is inactive from the result of 'd mpf' comand also  IEA590I WTO USER EXIT IEAVMXIT NOT FOUND     I will use sample program CNZZVXT1 to link CNZZVMXT as IEAVMXIT D MPF,M                                                            IEE677I 10.42.17 MPF DISPLAY 056

Re: EMC 6000 Virtual Tape Drive

2013-05-08 Thread Darth Keller
So it's been a really long time since I set all this up, but I do remember I had to have a couple of special volumes defined in the library. These volumes were used to 'communicate' with the Bustech hardware. Below is the display for the 2 volumes from ISMF. VOLUME USE

Re: EMC 6000 Virtual Tape Drive

2013-05-08 Thread Darth Keller
These are also not defined to my TMM (CA1). So it's been a really long time since I set all this up, but I do remember I had to have a couple of special volumes defined in the library. These volumes were used to 'communicate' with the Bustech hardware. Below is the display for the 2

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 7 May 2013 12:49:32 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Tue, 7 May 2013 13:34:07 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: On 5/7/2013 5:02 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: The only way I can think of restricting is an exit in JES2. Or if this is a TSO User you may wish to look at

Re: EMC 6000 Virtual Tape Drive

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 7 May 2013 19:15:55 -0500, Mike Wojtukiewicz mw...@attglobal.net wrote: I dont know why the client chose 2 different tape sizes. Seems illogical to me. The NL tapes I referenced had to do with running DLMCMD JCL which for the life of me I don't get. All I want to do is ask the machine

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread DASDBILL2
Gerhard said that his client, the US f ederal entity acronym ed  LUGA (Large Unnamed Government Agency), thought it was a security problem and eliminated the possibility that it could happen again when Gerhard showed how easy it was to do it. Bill Fairchild Franklin, TN - Original

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 5/8/2013 8:37 AM, Walt Farrell wrote: I'm not sure why Gerhard thinks that is a security problem, gil. But certainy if users push jobs through the INTRDR directly (as opposed to via TSO/E SUBMIT or ISPF SUB) then you can't depend on any restrictions imposed by IKJEFF10; you would have to use

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 8 May 2013 10:33:46 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: On 5/8/2013 8:37 AM, Walt Farrell wrote: I'm not sure why Gerhard thinks that is a security problem, gil. But certainy if users push jobs through the INTRDR directly (as opposed to via TSO/E SUBMIT or ISPF SUB) then you can't depend

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Paul Gilmartin wrote: Does ISPF SUBMIT invoke TSO SUBMIT in authorized state? No. You can choose to exclude it in IKJPRMxx and the program SUBMIT (alias of IKJEFF01) in SYS1.CMDLIB has this attribute AC=00. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Elardus Engelbrecht wrote a ^%$# TYPO! ... IKJPRMxx ... Must be IKJTSOxx Groan... :-/ Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/8/2013 7:33 AM, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: On 5/8/2013 8:37 AM, Walt Farrell wrote: I'm not sure why Gerhard thinks that is a security problem, gil. But certainy if users push jobs through the INTRDR directly (as opposed to via TSO/E SUBMIT or ISPF SUB) then you can't depend on any

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread John Gilmore
I do sometimes use a TSO/ISPF submit command in a development/testing context. In production I instead use the device of directing output to the INTRDR defined in a DD statement or the like. In two places where I could do so conveniently I have this morning checked the use of duplicate jobnames

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 8 May 2013 08:37:12 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: They might have simply put their 'control's in the wrong exits (TSO) and were too lazy to refit them into the (JES and SMF) exits where they belonged. A plausible motivation is that they want all jobs submitted via their scheduler. On Tue, 7

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 8 May 2013 10:55:37 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Does the class matter? If I allocate: //SYSUT2 DD SYSOUT=(B,INTRDR) ... will the job not run? Will the punch writer contend with INTRDR? (You mean they had a punch?) It will run. The B is the MSGCLASS if

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Bill Godfrey
Back before OCO, SUBMIT issued SVC 100 (called FIB, for foreground initiated background) and most of the code ran within that SVC. It probably still does. I think the SVC was/is also used by STATUS, CANCEL, and OUTPUT to access the JES subsystem interface. Bill On Wed, 8 May 2013 09:54:27

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 8 May 2013 11:08:36 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: On Wed, 8 May 2013 10:55:37 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Does the class matter? If I allocate: //SYSUT2 DD SYSOUT=(B,INTRDR) ... will the job not run? Will the punch writer contend with INTRDR? (You mean they had a punch?) It will

Re: Undocumented VSAM Return/reason code

2013-05-08 Thread Mike Schwab
Combine all these codes into one manual for an easy look up. With a link to the proper manual to learn about what you need to change. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:26 AM, Jantje. jan.moeyers...@gfi.be wrote: On Sat, 4 May 2013 06:25:41 -0700, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: It is

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 8 May 2013 11:41:43 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: What class (if any) does TSO SUBMIT supply when it allocates INTRDR? It depends. A default is specified in UADS (if used) or RACF / security product. If nothing is there, it takes the default for INTRDR specified

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 8 May 2013 12:10:36 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: What is this, MVS 101? :-) There's an aphorism I haven't used here in a while. I'll let readers guess. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Ron Thomas
Hi , Can some one let me know why the return code generated is a mutilple of 4? e.g 4,8,12,16 Thanks, Ron T -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/8/2013 10:14 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 8 May 2013 12:10:36 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: What is this, MVS 101? :-) There's an aphorism I haven't used here in a while. I'll let readers guess. I'll assume no pun intended wrt use of the word readers. I'll further assume the

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Jacobs
While there's no hard and fast rule, i.e. nothing prevents you from generating any return code from your programs, it's a tradition that return codes are a multiple of 4. 0 - Normal 4- Warning 8 - Error 12 - Severe Error 16 - Terminal Error Mark Jacobs

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Roberts, John J
Can some one let me know why the return code generated is a mutilple of 4? e.g 4,8,12,16 Back in the day when every byte counted, programmers would use the RC in R15 as an index into a jump table, where each four byte entry was itself an unconditional branch instruction, which was a four byte

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Steve Comstock
On 5/8/2013 11:53 AM, Mark Jacobs wrote: While there's no hard and fast rule, i.e. nothing prevents you from generating any return code from your programs, it's a tradition that return codes are a multiple of 4. 0 - Normal 4- Warning 8 - Error 12 - Severe Error 16 - Terminal Error Which

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Alan Field
I suspect they derive from assembler coding that looks like this (R15 needs to contain a value that is a multiple of 4): B BRTABLE(R15) BRTABLE B CODE00 B CODE04 B CODE08 B CODE0C B CODE10 Alan Field Technical

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Mike Myers
Ron: To add to Mark's reply, that's because the return code (in register 15), was traditionally used to index a table of branch instructions (each of which were 4 bytes long), such as: B RETTABLE(R15) ... RETTABLE B OK B FAIR

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Mark Jacobs wrote: While there's no hard and fast rule, i.e. nothing prevents you from generating any return code from your programs, it's a tradition that return codes are a multiple of 4. 0 - Normal 4- Warning 8 - Error 12 - Severe Error 16 - Terminal Error IT version of Richter Scale? ;-)

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 5/8/2013 2:14 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Another possible reason is - same return codes standards are also used for macros (system services) and system exits. So one set of convention is used to pass info including RC from one module to another. While I prefer the branch table

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread John Gilmore
There are also situations in which one wants to be able to set more than one of the diagnostic bits in a return code additively and unambiguously, and the alternative use of 0, 2, 4, 8, 16, . . . , i.e., the sequence 2^i, i = 0, 1, 2, . . . , powers of 2, permits this to be done. Still, the fact

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Kirk Talman
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on 05/08/2013 11:55:37 AM: From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com On Wed, 8 May 2013 08:37:12 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: A plausible motivation is that they want all jobs submitted via their scheduler. I agree that one should

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Mitch
For those shops that don't have this kind of capability and don't have the resources to manage or control it, check out UpTown from RES (www.res-it.com). It does all of the below and more. Regards, Mitch McCluhan, Legacy Modernization Consultant -Original Message- From: Kirk Talman

Re: OT - What is the proper term for K notation?

2013-05-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1367845369.9745.yahoomai...@web181401.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, on 05/06/2013 at 06:02 AM, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net said: Actually, Univac played with it back in the 1960s/1970s. Any ternary logic or memory in the 1960's was probably implemented with discrete transistors rather than

Re: blue sky thought: new class of member name in a PDS

2013-05-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAAJSdjgxxP=+cGfTAer6+wEHKQ=nivp1no78c_lysn3we7o...@mail.gmail.com, on 05/06/2013 at 08:58 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: This is just a weird thought, feel free to call me an idiot. But there are two classes of members in a PDS at present. There are normal member and

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
John, This is the first time I have had to take exception to a fact that you said and that is on the comment that we need a 8i multiple. Even with 64-bit addressing, it doesn't change the length of a branch or jump, they are still 4 bytes. A jump long is 6 bytes, so maybe 6i is possible, but

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cahtvvrww2c2_tq8uszm44p6pznvcbvgl6ffkkh68w8bogw4...@mail.gmail.com, on 05/07/2013 at 02:35 PM, Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com said: The problem is that same Job is submitted multiple times and which Leads to unavailability of Initiator to other Genuine Jobs. If you are concerned

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 8 May 2013 14:41:28 -0400, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: While I prefer the branch table conjecture, I have a number of programs that use a three-way branch (e.g., CH R15,=H'8') to save, what in the good old days was expensive storage. As for range checking, my all-time favorite is CL (e.g.,

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread John Gilmore
Chris Blaicher, Your sort of B/T has important uses, but one composed only of addresses is useful too. Perhaps it shoul;d be called an address table to avoid confusion. I will; send you an example privately. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On May 8, 2013, at 3:50 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Your sort of B/T has important uses, but one composed only of addresses is useful too. Perhaps it shoul;d be called an address table to avoid confusion. I will; send you an example privately. If you have a table with 8 byte

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In cee89.5cf94be0.3ebad...@aol.com, on 05/07/2013 at 05:50 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com said: Yeah, we had a bright VMer said he could run circles around ISPF with XEDIT macros. Well, I'm a TSO bigot, but XEDIT has significant advantages over ISPF/PDF EDIT. OTOH, ISPF/PDF EDIT also has

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread DASDBILL2
Space in the JESx checkpoint area is also a finite resource even if the job never runs.  Each job submitted requires a small amount of DASD space in the checkpoint area.  Perhaps you should also consider preventing any given user from submitting an infinite  number of valid,  authorized,

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
But does not catch values that are not multiples of 4. I suppose it's slightly more plausible that a future extension introduce RC=20 than that it introduce RC=3. ISPF functions do return RC=20. - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From:

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Perhaps we all should consider a better use of our time than worrying about inconsequential things such as duplicate jobs being submitted? (8-{]} I, for one, do not understand what the problem is. (8-{[} - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From:

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Tony Harminc
On 8 May 2013 16:59, Pew, Curtis G curtis@austin.utexas.edu wrote: On May 8, 2013, at 3:50 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Your sort of B/T has important uses, but one composed only of addresses is useful too. Perhaps it shoul;d be called an address table to avoid confusion.

Re: Crypto Facility performance.

2013-05-08 Thread Dave Barry
Ahem... Did you mean to say zEnterprise? System z is so last year. ;-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 9:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Crypto Facility

Re: Crypto Facility performance.

2013-05-08 Thread zMan
Touche. But zEnterprise is a superset of System z, not a distinct architecture, isn't it? On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Dave Barry dba...@ups.com wrote: Ahem... Did you mean to say zEnterprise? System z is so last year. ;-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
John, My comments were based on what the previous people had been discussing, namely a branch table. An address table is a very viable alternative. Item of note, unless you are working with all your own code, you have to validate the value in R15 before just using it to branch into a branch

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Lloyd Fuller
And then you have C / C++ that uses RC=1 as the good return code. Any other is bad. Lloyd - Original Message From: Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wed, May 8, 2013 2:41:51 PM Subject: Re: Return codes On 5/8/2013 2:14 PM, Elardus

Re: OT - What is the proper term for K notation?

2013-05-08 Thread Lloyd Fuller
Not sure. I was just talking one time to one of the military people that were involved with Univac and the university (Oregon State, I think). He mentioned that they had experimented with it. And from the time frame you are probably correct that it was transistors rather than IC's. Lloyd

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread John Gilmore
Ted MacNeil's point is well taken. In any well-managed shop duplicate jobnames are chiefly if not exclusively a phenomenon of development LPARs, where they are neither deleterious nor important. We have here yet another instance of one or the other of the two least productive preoccuptations of

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread John Gilmore
Lloyd Fuller wrote begin extract And then you have C / C++ that uses RC=1 as the good return code. Any other is bad. /end extract This practice reflects another C design defect. In the absence of an explicit boolean data type, C uses the dubious but ineluctable convention that a

Re: ternary logic, was: What is... K notation?

2013-05-08 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 05/08/2013 08:02 PM, Lloyd Fuller wrote: Not sure. I was just talking one time to one of the military people that were involved with Univac and the university (Oregon State, I think). He mentioned that they had experimented with it. And from the time frame you are probably correct that it

Re: Duplicate Batch Job

2013-05-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 8 May 2013 22:40:13 -0400, John Gilmore wrote: ... 2) interdict, or anyway attempt to interdict, any practice that is judged to be anomalous. In some cases when someone has espoused a practice or point of view that you judge to be anomalous, you characterize him as an intelligent

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread retired mainframer
When returning from function main() to the operating system, returning the macro value EXIT_SUCCESS is guaranteed to be equivalent to returning 0. EXIT_FAILURE is system dependent. For IBM's XL C/C++ compilers, EXIT_SUCCESS is defined as 0 and EXIT_FAILURE is defined as 8. :: -Original

Re: ternary logic, was: What is... K notation?

2013-05-08 Thread Mike Schwab
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org wrote: On 05/08/2013 08:02 PM, Lloyd Fuller wrote: Not sure. I was just talking one time to one of the military people that were involved with Univac and the university (Oregon State, I think). He mentioned that they had

Re: ternary logic, was: What is... K notation?

2013-05-08 Thread Ed Finnell
Yeah, they even came up with flip-flap-flop nomenclature. Died pretty quick, but it sounded cool. In a message dated 5/8/2013 10:46:50 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mike.a.sch...@gmail.com writes: Ternary, with values of 0,1,2, could be useful in a binary addition logic. You are only

Re: Return codes

2013-05-08 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 20:34 -0400 on 05/08/2013, Blaicher, Christopher Y. wrote about Re: Return codes: What I normally do is check for zero, if that is what you expect most often, then, if that fails, go through all the gyrations. BALR r14,r15Call your routine LTR R14,R15