date:20131008

On z/OS 1.11, the HSM manual says a stacked dump tape can contain dumps from 
both SMS and non-SMS packs.  However, with STACK(99), every test case I have 
run results in SMS packs first going to one 3592 tape (genned as 3590-1) and 
then non-SMS packs going to a second tape.  I have tried with 1, 2, and 3 SMS 
packs of different sizes and HSM always changes tapes after processing all the 
SMS packs in the dump class.

Has anyone else run into this and how did you solve it?

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Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

2013-10-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht

EXT-Schwarz, Barry wrote:

On z/OS 1.11, the HSM manual says a stacked dump tape can contain dumps from 
both SMS and non-SMS packs.  However, with STACK(99), every test case I have 
run results in SMS packs first going to one 3592 tape (genned as 3590-1) and 
then non-SMS packs going to a second tape.  I have tried with 1, 2, and 3 SMS 
packs of different sizes and HSM always changes tapes after processing all the 
SMS packs in the dump class.

What are you using to write to the tape? I'm asking because if you use BACKVOL, 
the STACK parameter is ignored.

Has anyone else run into this and how did you solve it?

No, not me. ;-)

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

2013-10-08 Thread Ted MacNEIL

Has anyone else run into this and how did you solve it?

I must be missing something!
Why is this a problem?
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Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

In my opinion, this cannot be done. 

In my shop, HSM, performs all SMS managed functions, followed by all non-SMS 
managed functions

There is a further separation in the non-SMS managed functions. All  stacked 
functions are performed before non-stacked functions.

HTH,

snip
On z/OS 1.11, the HSM manual says a stacked dump tape can contain dumps from 
both SMS and non-SMS packs.  However, with STACK(99), every test case I have 
run results in SMS packs first going to one 3592 tape (genned as 3590-1) and 
then non-SMS packs going to a second tape.  I have tried with 1, 2, and 3 SMS 
packs of different sizes and HSM always changes tapes after processing all the 
SMS packs in the dump class.

Has anyone else run into this and how did you solve it?
/snip

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Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

Could you provide more detail?

What parameters do you have set in HSM for stacking on your dump classes?
What timeframes are involved? When do you dump and expect stacking?
Could you provide your SETSYS parms for dump and stacking?

HSM should stack all the volumes on one tape based on the following criteria

Copy pool dump processing is given priority in this phase. Dump processing
proceeds as follows:

 Copy pool volumes with affinity to the processing host that are to be
stacked
 Copy pool volumes with no affinity that are to be stacked
 Non-copy pool volumes with affinity to the processing host that are to be
stacked
 Non-copy pool volumes with no affinity that are to be stacked
 Copy pool volumes with affinity that are not to be stacked
 Copy pool volumes with no affinity that are not to be stacked
 Non-copy pool volumes with affinity that are not to be stacked
 Non-copy pool volumes with no affinity that are not to be stacked
 Non-SMS volumes

Are you sure all of the volumes you are dumping will fit on one tape volume?

Have you tried just setting up one volume SMS and NON-SMS in your dump class
and see if that works?

Are you manually running the process or is DFHSM running it on a schedule?

Thanks

Lizette


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Subject: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

On z/OS 1.11, the HSM manual says a stacked dump tape can contain dumps from
both SMS and non-SMS packs.  However, with STACK(99), every test case I have
run results in SMS packs first going to one 3592 tape (genned as 3590-1) and
then non-SMS packs going to a second tape.  I have tried with 1, 2, and 3
SMS packs of different sizes and HSM always changes tapes after processing
all the SMS packs in the dump class.

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Catalog Rebuild JCL

2013-10-08 Thread Jake anderson

Hello,

I am in the process of re-sizing a user catalog and I see there are almost
2000+ aliases defined to it. This is for one of our plex where we have 4
systems and I understand during restore the aliases will be too restored on
the system where I am running the JCL(for catalog resize). For other System
I have to prepare a define alias JCL for 2000+ aliases.

I am looking for some REXX which can help me in extracting the aliases and
prepare  control card to re-define the same aliases pointing to the
Usercatalog.

Could someone point me to some sample Rexx which can help me ?

Jake

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Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

Jake,

You can always do a LISTC in REXX and extract ALIAS entries.

However, I am not sure what you are working on.

If I resize a catalog I use (very generalized steps)

EXPORT into Temp
DEL/DEF
IMPORT

Process for resizing.

If I am moving ALIAS, I use something like REPRO MERGECAT

I rarely have to define all aliases to a catalog in this manner.  

Could you provide better detail?  Why would the above not work for your
process?

Also, there are products on the market that can actually do these types of
activities.

Aliases are defined in the MCAT pointing to a user cat.  So are you going to
delete all of your aliases out of your MCAT?  If so, that could be an
interesting procedure.  Also, if you have VSAM datasets, you have to
consider this process and its effect on your VSAM datasets.


Lizette


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Subject: Catalog Rebuild JCL

Hello,

I am in the process of re-sizing a user catalog and I see there are almost
2000+ aliases defined to it. This is for one of our plex where we have 4
systems and I understand during restore the aliases will be too restored on
the system where I am running the JCL(for catalog resize). For other System
I have to prepare a define alias JCL for 2000+ aliases.

I am looking for some REXX which can help me in extracting the aliases and
prepare  control card to re-define the same aliases pointing to the
Usercatalog.

Could someone point me to some sample Rexx which can help me ?

Jake

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Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

2013-10-08 Thread Hervey Martinez

Jake,

The alias' are in the master catalog not in the user catalog. If you have 
multiple master catalogs, then the user cat needs to be detached from the other 
masters before you do the resize and after the re-org; then, it has to be 
re-connected back to those same masters.  

Regards,

Hervey


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Of Jake anderson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:57 AM
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Subject: Catalog Rebuild JCL

Hello,

I am in the process of re-sizing a user catalog and I see there are almost
2000+ aliases defined to it. This is for one of our plex where we have 4
systems and I understand during restore the aliases will be too restored on the 
system where I am running the JCL(for catalog resize). For other System I have 
to prepare a define alias JCL for 2000+ aliases.

I am looking for some REXX which can help me in extracting the aliases and 
prepare  control card to re-define the same aliases pointing to the Usercatalog.

Could someone point me to some sample Rexx which can help me ?

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But will it be available 24/365 was Re: New Designed Service Portal Coming to IBM

2013-10-08 Thread Clark Morris

On 7 Oct 2013 15:49:40 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

Heads up. According to the website - 4 weeks to launch:

New IBM Support Portal design coming soon!

The IBM Support Portal will soon have a new look. Our clients have been
telling us what improvements they would like to see in the IBM Support Portal.
We've listened, and our new, simplified website design is coming soon.

Will it be available 24/365 which would be the thing that addresses
the larges complaint here?

Clark Morris

IBM produced a 2 minute video introducing the new functionality that will soon
be available in the IBM Support Portal.

You may view this video on either YouTube or the IBM Education Assistant site.

This video demonstrates how IBM will simplify the Support Portal by
consolidating functions and combining content to minimize the number of
modules on the screen.

Functions that you use most frequently, like product lookup and search, are
now at the top and center of the home page.
Note: All of our videos may be found on our YouTube channel. For those without
access to YouTube, visit our own IBM Education Assistant channel.

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/IBMElectronicSupport/entry/new_portal_design_20130903?lnk=uctug_ibmesa_ibmcom_2013-09-04_new_portal_design_blog_20130903_mtecm_sp=MTE28384lang=en

Or tinyurl:http://tinyurl.com/pxnd4nw

Lizette

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Re: But will it be available 24/365 was Re: New Designed Service Portal Coming to IBM

2013-10-08 Thread David Crayford

On 8/10/2013 9:05 PM, Clark Morris wrote:

On 7 Oct 2013 15:49:40 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

Heads up. According to the website - 4 weeks to launch:

New IBM Support Portal design coming soon!

Will it be available 24/365 which would be the thing that addresses
the larges complaint here?

Probably not! How is it that IBM don't seem to be able to run edge servers?

Clark Morris

IBM produced a 2 minute video introducing the new functionality that will soon
be available in the IBM Support Portal.

You may view this video on either YouTube or the IBM Education Assistant site.

This video demonstrates how IBM will simplify the Support Portal by
consolidating functions and combining content to minimize the number of modules
on the screen.

Functions that you use most frequently, like product lookup and search, are now
at the top and center of the home page.
Note: All of our videos may be found on our YouTube channel. For those without
access to YouTube, visit our own IBM Education Assistant channel.

https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/IBMElectronicSupport/entry/new_portal_design_20130903?lnk=uctug_ibmesa_ibmcom_2013-09-04_new_portal_design_blog_20130903_mtecm_sp=MTE28384lang=en

Or tinyurl:http://tinyurl.com/pxnd4nw

Lizette

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Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

2013-10-08 Thread Jake anderson

I agree the aliases do Point to Master catalog. Here I do not use IDCAMS
but I use CA CREW for catalog Resize. So for other system I have to perform
a Redefine of aliases and Yes in our plex we have master catalog defined
for each system and Usercatalogs are shared across the system. So for
defining an alias I must be generating a IDCAMS control card using where I
mention like :

DEF ALIAS(NAME('ALIASNAME') REL('USERCATALOG) , so if I run this JCL on
each system then the mastercatalog parameter is not required.

So Just looking for a rexx exec which can extract the list from a PS
file(where only alias name is present) and prepare a control card for
IDCAMS.


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Hervey Martinez 
hervey.marti...@custserv.com wrote:

 Jake,

 The alias' are in the master catalog not in the user catalog. If you have
 multiple master catalogs, then the user cat needs to be detached from the
 other masters before you do the resize and after the re-org; then, it has
 to be re-connected back to those same masters.

 Regards,

 Hervey


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 Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:57 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Catalog Rebuild JCL

 Hello,

 I am in the process of re-sizing a user catalog and I see there are almost
 2000+ aliases defined to it. This is for one of our plex where we have 4
 systems and I understand during restore the aliases will be too restored
 on the system where I am running the JCL(for catalog resize). For other
 System I have to prepare a define alias JCL for 2000+ aliases.

 I am looking for some REXX which can help me in extracting the aliases and
 prepare  control card to re-define the same aliases pointing to the
 Usercatalog.

 Could someone point me to some sample Rexx which can help me ?

 Jake

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Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

Jake,

Have you contacted CA Support for CREWS.  Any product I have seen that does
CATALOG has support for your functions.  That includes TREX and Catalog
Recovery Plus

So, a quick search on the CA Website provided


Question:  Looking for example of a restore on a catalog and its aliases?

Answer:  

Here is an example of a restore for one catalog and its aliases:
file://RESTORE JOB
file://STEP EXEC PGM=CREWS
file://SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
file://RESTORE DD DSN=BACKUP.CATALOGS(-1),DISP=OLD
file://SYSIN DD *
RESTORE
ALIAS
CAT(CATALOG.MVSICF1.VSYSC06)


Lizette


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Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 6:25 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

I agree the aliases do Point to Master catalog. Here I do not use IDCAMS but
I use CA CREW for catalog Resize. So for other system I have to perform a
Redefine of aliases and Yes in our plex we have master catalog defined for
each system and Usercatalogs are shared across the system. So for defining
an alias I must be generating a IDCAMS control card using where I mention
like :

DEF ALIAS(NAME('ALIASNAME') REL('USERCATALOG) , so if I run this JCL on each
system then the mastercatalog parameter is not required.

So Just looking for a rexx exec which can extract the list from a PS
file(where only alias name is present) and prepare a control card for
IDCAMS.


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Hervey Martinez 
hervey.marti...@custserv.com wrote:

 Jake,

 The alias' are in the master catalog not in the user catalog. If you 
 have multiple master catalogs, then the user cat needs to be detached 
 from the other masters before you do the resize and after the re-org; 
 then, it has to be re-connected back to those same masters.

 Regards,

 Hervey


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of Jake anderson
 Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:57 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Catalog Rebuild JCL

 Hello,

 I am in the process of re-sizing a user catalog and I see there are 
 almost
 2000+ aliases defined to it. This is for one of our plex where we have 
 2000+ 4
 systems and I understand during restore the aliases will be too 
 restored on the system where I am running the JCL(for catalog resize). 
 For other System I have to prepare a define alias JCL for 2000+ aliases.

 I am looking for some REXX which can help me in extracting the aliases 
 and prepare  control card to re-define the same aliases pointing to 
 the Usercatalog.

 Could someone point me to some sample Rexx which can help me ?

 Jake

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Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-08 Thread Andy Higgins

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 07:53:32 -0400, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote:


Is there truly still a place where ** works but SYSR1 does not?


Peter,

I know of one place.  When I IPL with a member of the PARMLIB concatenation, 
for instance SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB, cataloged on SYSR1, I get IGGN505A SPECIFY UNIT 
FOR SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB ON SYSR1 OR CANCEL.  I don't get that when it's cataloged 
on **. 

Andy

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Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-08 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM

Peter,

Good question, it was in the back of my mind, that there were places,
where ** was processed before system symbols were initialized.

We stil have in PROGxx:
APF ADD DSNAME(SYS1.LINKLIB)   VOLUME(**)
I am not sure if it is still necessary.

Or is this needed in indirect addressing in the master catalog?
We still have SYS1.PARMLIB cataloged to VOL(**), possibly because of
the same reason.

Which of both (**)'s is still valid?

Kees.



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Subject: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

Some of the posts seem to imply a difference between ** and SYSR1.
Their values are the same. And the latter is supported in more places
than the former (and in general is more functional).
Is there truly still a place where ** works but SYSR1 does not?

I presume all the references to SYSRn (aside from SYSR1) are to
customer-defined symbols

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: CFCC memory requirements

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 00:10:51 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote:

How much memory is required for CFCC (Coupling Facility Control Code)to run?
I meanpure OS, without any user defined structures.
BTW: Is the amount constant or its size depends on number or size of 
defined structures?

Used to be about 256M, but at CFLEVEL 17 you need about 512M.   That wasn't
documented or talked about during our z196 migration planning with IBM
and I ran into a problem in my sandbox sysplexes  which only had 256M
on the CF LPARs.It has been documented now in various places.  

Here is a post of mine from January 2012 that explained why the extra
storage was needed.

https://listserv.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1201L=ibm-mainD=1T=0O=DF=S=X=086E2A74E9A368C125Y=mark%40mzelden.comP=246772


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Re: But will it be available 24/365 was Re: New Designed Service Portal Coming to IBM

2013-10-08 Thread John Gilmore

The misjudgment consisted in choosing edge servers initially.   This
facility should have been implemented on a mainframe, where adequate
availability is a given.

Complaints about and expectations for the availability of the
IBM-Support portal have always been unrealistic.  They are
extrapolations from the complainers' mainframe experience that are
inappropriate to a different, much more fragile environment, one in
which failures, reboots, and frequent 'quiescences' for maintenance
are the norm.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

Reposting without the FILE: added



Question:  Looking for example of a restore on a catalog and its aliases?

Answer:  

Here is an example of a restore for one catalog and its aliases:
//RESTORE JOB
//STEP EXEC PGM=CREWS
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
//RESTORE DD DSN=BACKUP.CATALOGS(-1),DISP=OLD
//SYSIN DD *
RESTORE
ALIAS
CAT(CATALOG.MVSICF1.VSYSC06)


Sorry for the File Insert.  Do not know where that came from

Lizette

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Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 6:33 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

Jake,

Have you contacted CA Support for CREWS.  Any product I have seen that does
CATALOG has support for your functions.  That includes TREX and Catalog
Recovery Plus

So, a quick search on the CA Website provided


Question:  Looking for example of a restore on a catalog and its aliases?

Answer:  

Here is an example of a restore for one catalog and its aliases:
file://RESTORE JOB
file://STEP EXEC PGM=CREWS
file://SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
file://RESTORE DD DSN=BACKUP.CATALOGS(-1),DISP=OLD file://SYSIN DD * RESTORE
ALIAS
CAT(CATALOG.MVSICF1.VSYSC06)


Lizette


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Behalf Of Jake anderson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 6:25 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

I agree the aliases do Point to Master catalog. Here I do not use IDCAMS but
I use CA CREW for catalog Resize. So for other system I have to perform a
Redefine of aliases and Yes in our plex we have master catalog defined for
each system and Usercatalogs are shared across the system. So for defining
an alias I must be generating a IDCAMS control card using where I mention
like :

DEF ALIAS(NAME('ALIASNAME') REL('USERCATALOG) , so if I run this JCL on each
system then the mastercatalog parameter is not required.

So Just looking for a rexx exec which can extract the list from a PS
file(where only alias name is present) and prepare a control card for
IDCAMS.


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Hervey Martinez 
hervey.marti...@custserv.com wrote:

 Jake,

 The alias' are in the master catalog not in the user catalog. If you 
 have multiple master catalogs, then the user cat needs to be detached 
 from the other masters before you do the resize and after the re-org; 
 then, it has to be re-connected back to those same masters.

 Regards,

 Hervey


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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of Jake anderson
 Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:57 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Catalog Rebuild JCL

 Hello,

 I am in the process of re-sizing a user catalog and I see there are 
 almost
 2000+ aliases defined to it. This is for one of our plex where we have
 2000+ 4
 systems and I understand during restore the aliases will be too 
 restored on the system where I am running the JCL(for catalog resize).
 For other System I have to prepare a define alias JCL for 2000+ aliases.

 I am looking for some REXX which can help me in extracting the aliases 
 and prepare  control card to re-define the same aliases pointing to 
 the Usercatalog.

 Could someone point me to some sample Rexx which can help me ?

 Jake

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Distance considerations fo a Parallel Sysplex with DB2 Data Sharing

2013-10-08 Thread Sheldon Davis

 Hi

I was wondering what the maximum distance would be for a  Parallel Sysplex with 
DB2 Data Sharing on two BC12's.

Thanks 

Sheldon Davis

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SMP/E dialog split screen (was: SMPTABL data set severe error)

2013-10-08 Thread Kurt Quackenbush


Also, it used to be the case that only one instance of the SMP/E dialog
was allowed within a single TSO/ISPF session -  a 2nd concurrent
invocation in split screen was not allowed and would produce a failure
message..


Not so any more.  Check out APAR IO18093 (and its subsequent fixes).

Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development

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Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-08 Thread John Gilmore

The answer to Peter's rhetorical question is an unasmbiguous no.

SYSR1 should be used everywhere that ** has historically been used.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA

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Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

2013-10-08 Thread Jake anderson

Hello Lizette,

This is for the system from where we perform the catalog resize. So for
other systems how do we get the aliases pointing to their Master catalog ?


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote:

 Reposting without the FILE: added



 Question:  Looking for example of a restore on a catalog and its aliases?

 Answer:

 Here is an example of a restore for one catalog and its aliases:
 //RESTORE JOB
 //STEP EXEC PGM=CREWS
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
 //RESTORE DD DSN=BACKUP.CATALOGS(-1),DISP=OLD
 //SYSIN DD *
 RESTORE
 ALIAS
 CAT(CATALOG.MVSICF1.VSYSC06)


 Sorry for the File Insert.  Do not know where that came from

 Lizette

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 6:33 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

 Jake,

 Have you contacted CA Support for CREWS.  Any product I have seen that does
 CATALOG has support for your functions.  That includes TREX and Catalog
 Recovery Plus

 So, a quick search on the CA Website provided


 Question:  Looking for example of a restore on a catalog and its aliases?

 Answer:

 Here is an example of a restore for one catalog and its aliases:
 file://RESTORE JOB
 file://STEP EXEC PGM=CREWS
 file://SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
 file://RESTORE DD DSN=BACKUP.CATALOGS(-1),DISP=OLD file://SYSIN DD *
 RESTORE
 ALIAS
 CAT(CATALOG.MVSICF1.VSYSC06)


 Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Jake anderson
 Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 6:25 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

 I agree the aliases do Point to Master catalog. Here I do not use IDCAMS
 but
 I use CA CREW for catalog Resize. So for other system I have to perform a
 Redefine of aliases and Yes in our plex we have master catalog defined for
 each system and Usercatalogs are shared across the system. So for defining
 an alias I must be generating a IDCAMS control card using where I mention
 like :

 DEF ALIAS(NAME('ALIASNAME') REL('USERCATALOG) , so if I run this JCL on
 each
 system then the mastercatalog parameter is not required.

 So Just looking for a rexx exec which can extract the list from a PS
 file(where only alias name is present) and prepare a control card for
 IDCAMS.


 On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Hervey Martinez 
 hervey.marti...@custserv.com wrote:

  Jake,
 
  The alias' are in the master catalog not in the user catalog. If you
  have multiple master catalogs, then the user cat needs to be detached
  from the other masters before you do the resize and after the re-org;
  then, it has to be re-connected back to those same masters.
 
  Regards,
 
  Hervey
 
 
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  On Behalf Of Jake anderson
  Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:57 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Catalog Rebuild JCL
 
  Hello,
 
  I am in the process of re-sizing a user catalog and I see there are
  almost
  2000+ aliases defined to it. This is for one of our plex where we have
  2000+ 4
  systems and I understand during restore the aliases will be too
  restored on the system where I am running the JCL(for catalog resize).
  For other System I have to prepare a define alias JCL for 2000+ aliases.
 
  I am looking for some REXX which can help me in extracting the aliases
  and prepare  control card to re-define the same aliases pointing to
  the Usercatalog.
 
  Could someone point me to some sample Rexx which can help me ?
 
  Jake

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Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

Check out 

IMPORT function of IDCAMS  

 also this tech doc could be helpful

 http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1II13354



A quick case opened to CA CREWS will probably get you answers that might
help expand on the use of this product.



Lizette



-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Jake anderson
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 7:45 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

Hello Lizette,

This is for the system from where we perform the catalog resize. So for
other systems how do we get the aliases pointing to their Master catalog ?


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Lizette Koehler
stars...@mindspring.comwrote:

 Reposting without the FILE: added



 Question:  Looking for example of a restore on a catalog and its aliases?

 Answer:

 Here is an example of a restore for one catalog and its aliases:
 //RESTORE JOB
 //STEP EXEC PGM=CREWS
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
 //RESTORE DD DSN=BACKUP.CATALOGS(-1),DISP=OLD //SYSIN DD * RESTORE 
 ALIAS
 CAT(CATALOG.MVSICF1.VSYSC06)


 Sorry for the File Insert.  Do not know where that came from

 Lizette

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 6:33 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

 Jake,

 Have you contacted CA Support for CREWS.  Any product I have seen that 
 does CATALOG has support for your functions.  That includes TREX and 
 Catalog Recovery Plus

 So, a quick search on the CA Website provided


 Question:  Looking for example of a restore on a catalog and its aliases?

 Answer:

 Here is an example of a restore for one catalog and its aliases:
 file://RESTORE JOB
 file://STEP EXEC PGM=CREWS
 file://SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
 file://RESTORE DD DSN=BACKUP.CATALOGS(-1),DISP=OLD file://SYSIN DD * 
 RESTORE ALIAS
 CAT(CATALOG.MVSICF1.VSYSC06)


 Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On Behalf Of Jake anderson
 Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 6:25 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

 I agree the aliases do Point to Master catalog. Here I do not use 
 IDCAMS but I use CA CREW for catalog Resize. So for other system I 
 have to perform a Redefine of aliases and Yes in our plex we have 
 master catalog defined for each system and Usercatalogs are shared 
 across the system. So for defining an alias I must be generating a 
 IDCAMS control card using where I mention like :

 DEF ALIAS(NAME('ALIASNAME') REL('USERCATALOG) , so if I run this JCL 
 on each system then the mastercatalog parameter is not required.

 So Just looking for a rexx exec which can extract the list from a PS 
 file(where only alias name is present) and prepare a control card for 
 IDCAMS.


 On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Hervey Martinez  
 hervey.marti...@custserv.com wrote:

  Jake,
 
  The alias' are in the master catalog not in the user catalog. If you 
  have multiple master catalogs, then the user cat needs to be 
  detached from the other masters before you do the resize and after 
  the re-org; then, it has to be re-connected back to those same masters.
 
  Regards,
 
  Hervey
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
  [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jake anderson
  Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:57 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Catalog Rebuild JCL
 
  Hello,
 
  I am in the process of re-sizing a user catalog and I see there are 
  almost
  2000+ aliases defined to it. This is for one of our plex where we 
  2000+ have
  2000+ 4
  systems and I understand during restore the aliases will be too 
  restored on the system where I am running the JCL(for catalog resize).
  For other System I have to prepare a define alias JCL for 2000+ aliases.
 
  I am looking for some REXX which can help me in extracting the 
  aliases and prepare  control card to re-define the same aliases 
  pointing to the Usercatalog.
 
  Could someone point me to some sample Rexx which can help me ?
 
  Jake

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Re: Distance considerations fo a Parallel Sysplex with DB2 Data Sharing

2013-10-08 Thread Rob Schramm

I know that 13 miles works.

Rob
On Oct 8, 2013 10:38 AM, Sheldon Davis sda...@isracard.co.il wrote:

  Hi

 I was wondering what the maximum distance would be for a  Parallel Sysplex
 with DB2 Data Sharing on two BC12's.

 Thanks

 Sheldon Davis

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Re: SMP/E dialog split screen (was: SMPTABL data set severe error)

2013-10-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:03:25 -0400, Kurt Quackenbush wrote:

 Also, it used to be the case that only one instance of the SMP/E dialog
 was allowed within a single TSO/ISPF session -  a 2nd concurrent
 invocation in split screen was not allowed and would produce a failure
 message..
 
I had suffered that, and attributed the problem mostly to DDNAME conflicts.
Do both splits try to allocate SMPCSI?

Not so any more.  Check out APAR IO18093 (and its subsequent fixes).

Much appreciated.  Concurrent updated are still prohibited; a reasonable
restriction.  Does this also prohibit concurrent updates, one from ISPF
and one from batch?

I notice subsequent APARS for ISPF variable pool contention.  I suppose
it improves by successive approximation.

Breathlessly awaiting a Rexx API.  (Turning blue.)

Thanks again,
gil

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Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-08 Thread Skip Robinson

The last couple of posts in this thread have overlooked Andy Higgins's 
observation that SYSR1--or any symbolic for that matter--cannot be used 
to catalog a data set in the PARMLIB concatenation. The reason is that 
symbolics are defined in PARMLIB members that themselves cannot be located 
and processed until NIP knows how to find PARMLIB data sets. It's a 
chicken-egg problem. 


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From:   John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
Date:   10/08/2013 07:41 AM
Subject:Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !
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The answer to Peter's rhetorical question is an unasmbiguous no.

SYSR1 should be used everywhere that ** has historically been used.

John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA


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Re: But will it be available 24/365 was Re: New Designed Service Portal Coming to IBM

My understanding from talking with a level 2 manager at IBM, is that the 
original green screen applications (z/VM based) are still running. 
What has changed is the method of access.

Regardless of the residence of the applications, there exist (except possibly 
on Windows platforms) availability options to 
completely eliminate the need for 12 hour outages. 

It seems that IBM has *chosen* not to use these options...

snip
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of John Gilmore
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:47 AM

The misjudgment consisted in choosing edge servers initially.   This
facility should have been implemented on a mainframe, where adequate 
availability is a given.

Complaints about and expectations for the availability of the IBM-Support 
portal have always been unrealistic.  They are extrapolations from the 
complainers' mainframe experience that are inappropriate to a different, much 
more fragile environment, one in which failures, reboots, and frequent 
'quiescences' for maintenance are the norm.
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Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:14:44 -0700, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com 
wrote:

The last couple of posts in this thread have overlooked Andy Higgins's
observation that SYSR1--or any symbolic for that matter--cannot be used
to catalog a data set in the PARMLIB concatenation. The reason is that
symbolics are defined in PARMLIB members that themselves cannot be located
and processed until NIP knows how to find PARMLIB data sets. It's a
chicken-egg problem.



SYSR1 is a special case and is available to resolve the VOLSER, even
in LOADxx.   It can't be used to resolve a data set name however
prior to symbol processing.   For example, LOADxx can NOT use

PARMLIB  SYS1.PARMLIB.SYSR1


So it can be used anywhere ** is used in catalog entries.   I 
disagree with Mr. Gilmore's assertion that it should be used.  
They are logically equivalent, so i wouldn't go recatalogging 
all my master catalog data sets just because.

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Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

2013-10-08 Thread Andy Higgins

I should have mentioned that behavior I described occurs when the volume field 
of LOADxx PARMLIB statements for such libraries is blank.  The doc for the 
volume field includes:

If '**' or 'SYSR1' is specified, IPL processing will
attempt to locate the specified data set on the system   
residence volume. 

and indeed it does. 

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:14:44 -0700, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com 
wrote:

The last couple of posts in this thread have overlooked Andy Higgins's
observation that SYSR1--or any symbolic for that matter--cannot be used
to catalog a data set in the PARMLIB concatenation. The reason is that
symbolics are defined in PARMLIB members that themselves cannot be located
and processed until NIP knows how to find PARMLIB data sets. It's a
chicken-egg problem.


.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com

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Re: Distance considerations fo a Parallel Sysplex with DB2 Data Sharing

2013-10-08 Thread John Eells


Sheldon Davis wrote:

  Hi

I was wondering what the maximum distance would be for a  Parallel Sysplex with 
DB2 Data Sharing on two BC12's.



I'd think it would be the same as the general 100km separation limit for 
a Parallel Sysplex.


However, the maximum practical distance depends at least in part on what 
CF response times you find acceptable.  The inherent propagation delays 
of ~1ns/foot have to be considered when you are looking at this.


GDPS plays in this space as well but I don't have the details handy.


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Re: Multiple datasets with same name on APF list !

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:35:26 -0500, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote:

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:14:44 -0700, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com 
wrote:

The last couple of posts in this thread have overlooked Andy Higgins's
observation that SYSR1--or any symbolic for that matter--cannot be used
to catalog a data set in the PARMLIB concatenation. The reason is that
symbolics are defined in PARMLIB members that themselves cannot be located
and processed until NIP knows how to find PARMLIB data sets. It's a
chicken-egg problem.



SYSR1 is a special case and is available to resolve the VOLSER, even
in LOADxx.   It can't be used to resolve a data set name however
prior to symbol processing.   For example, LOADxx can NOT use

PARMLIB  SYS1.PARMLIB.SYSR1


So it can be used anywhere ** is used in catalog entries.   I 
disagree with Mr. Gilmore's assertion that it should be used.  
They are logically equivalent, so i wouldn't go recatalogging 
all my master catalog data sets just because.



I have to partially retract what I posted.   It is a documented restriction
for PARMLIB in LOADxx - Unless the volser is also coded as SYSR1.


From Init and Tuning Reference:

2.8.1  Restrictions:

The following cannot be catalogued with a system symbol:  
SYS1.PARMLIB  
Any parmlib data set listed in LOADxx without a volume name.  
Any parmlib data set (including SYS1.PARMLIB) can be catalogued with six 
asterisks (**).

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Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

2013-10-08 Thread Skip Robinson

As has been pointed out, an alias definition lives in the *master* 
catalog(s), not in the user catalog itself. An alias in an external 
pointer that tells the (current) system how find the catalog containing 
the actual data set entry. When a user catalog is EXPORTed and then 
IMPORTed, any master catalog containing an alias is not affected at all. 
As long as the user catalog ends up on the original volume, alias 
processing will work exactly as before. 

OTOH do not move the user catalog to a different volume. You would then 
have to disconnect the user catalog from each master, at which point you 
would lose all alias definitions and have to redefine them after 
reconnecting. That would be an arduous effort. 

.
.
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From:   Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU, 
Date:   10/08/2013 07:50 AM
Subject:Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



Hello Lizette,

This is for the system from where we perform the catalog resize. So for
other systems how do we get the aliases pointing to their Master catalog ?


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Lizette Koehler 
stars...@mindspring.comwrote:

 Reposting without the FILE: added



 Question:  Looking for example of a restore on a catalog and its 
aliases?

 Answer:

 Here is an example of a restore for one catalog and its aliases:
 //RESTORE JOB
 //STEP EXEC PGM=CREWS
 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
 //RESTORE DD DSN=BACKUP.CATALOGS(-1),DISP=OLD
 //SYSIN DD *
 RESTORE
 ALIAS
 CAT(CATALOG.MVSICF1.VSYSC06)


 Sorry for the File Insert.  Do not know where that came from

 Lizette

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 6:33 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

 Jake,

 Have you contacted CA Support for CREWS.  Any product I have seen that 
does
 CATALOG has support for your functions.  That includes TREX and Catalog
 Recovery Plus

 So, a quick search on the CA Website provided


 Question:  Looking for example of a restore on a catalog and its 
aliases?

 Answer:

 Here is an example of a restore for one catalog and its aliases:
 file://RESTORE JOB
 file://STEP EXEC PGM=CREWS
 file://SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A
 file://RESTORE DD DSN=BACKUP.CATALOGS(-1),DISP=OLD file://SYSIN DD *
 RESTORE
 ALIAS
 CAT(CATALOG.MVSICF1.VSYSC06)


 Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Jake anderson
 Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 6:25 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

 I agree the aliases do Point to Master catalog. Here I do not use IDCAMS
 but
 I use CA CREW for catalog Resize. So for other system I have to perform 
a
 Redefine of aliases and Yes in our plex we have master catalog defined 
for
 each system and Usercatalogs are shared across the system. So for 
defining
 an alias I must be generating a IDCAMS control card using where I 
mention
 like :

 DEF ALIAS(NAME('ALIASNAME') REL('USERCATALOG) , so if I run this JCL on
 each
 system then the mastercatalog parameter is not required.

 So Just looking for a rexx exec which can extract the list from a PS
 file(where only alias name is present) and prepare a control card for
 IDCAMS.


 On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Hervey Martinez 
 hervey.marti...@custserv.com wrote:

  Jake,
 
  The alias' are in the master catalog not in the user catalog. If you
  have multiple master catalogs, then the user cat needs to be detached
  from the other masters before you do the resize and after the re-org;
  then, it has to be re-connected back to those same masters.
 
  Regards,
 
  Hervey
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
  On Behalf Of Jake anderson
  Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:57 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Subject: Catalog Rebuild JCL
 
  Hello,
 
  I am in the process of re-sizing a user catalog and I see there are
  almost
  2000+ aliases defined to it. This is for one of our plex where we have
  2000+ 4
  systems and I understand during restore the aliases will be too
  restored on the system where I am running the JCL(for catalog resize).
  For other System I have to prepare a define alias JCL for 2000+ 
aliases.
 
  I am looking for some REXX which can help me in extracting the aliases
  and prepare  control card to re-define the same aliases pointing to
  the Usercatalog.
 
  Could someone point me to some sample Rexx which can help me ?
 
  Jake


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Re: But will it be available 24/365 was Re: New Designed Service Portal Coming to IBM

2013-10-08 Thread Clark Morris

On 8 Oct 2013 08:31:23 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

My understanding from talking with a level 2 manager at IBM, is that the 
original green screen applications (z/VM based) are still running. 
What has changed is the method of access.

Regardless of the residence of the applications, there exist (except possibly 
on Windows platforms) availability options to 
completely eliminate the need for 12 hour outages. 

Given my admittedly limited experience with the Microsoft Knowledge
base and service delivery, they seem to have figured out to have it
available at the random times I wanted to use them.

Clark Morris

It seems that IBM has *chosen* not to use these options...

snip
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
Behalf Of John Gilmore
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 8:47 AM

The misjudgment consisted in choosing edge servers initially.   This
facility should have been implemented on a mainframe, where adequate 
availability is a given.

Complaints about and expectations for the availability of the IBM-Support 
portal have always been unrealistic.  They are extrapolations from the 
complainers' mainframe experience that are inappropriate to a different, much 
more fragile environment, one in which failures, reboots, and frequent 
'quiescences' for maintenance are the norm.
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Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

2013-10-08 Thread John Eells


(Reposting to the list server.)

Skip Robinson wrote:
snip

 OTOH do not move the user catalog to a different volume. You would then
 have to disconnect the user catalog from each master, at which point you
 would lose all alias definitions and have to redefine them after
 reconnecting. That would be an arduous effort.

DFSMSdfp Development was kind enough to make this less ardous for those 
who can wait for z/OS V2.1; from the announcement letter:


Also, new support enables you to preserve user catalog connector alias 
entries when you temporarily delete a user catalog so they need not be 
redefined when the catalog is reallocated, and prevent new catalog 
entries using those aliases from being defined until the new catalog is 
available. This is intended to simplify the reallocation of user catalogs.


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Re: Need to include ACF2 SMF 230 in SMFPRMxx?

2013-10-08 Thread Charles Mills

Closing the loop, I have now gotten a reply on the ACF2 list from CA
support. (Thanks Ross!)

FWIW, here is my model of how this all works.

SMFPRMxx is a suggestion to SMF-record-writing components. SMF itself does
not filter based on SMFPRMxx. You can code SYS(NOTYPE(199)) and I can still
write a program that uses SMF(E)WTM to write type 199 records and they will
end up in your SMF datasets and/or logstream (subject to any IEFU8x exit).
What a well-behaved program *should* do, apparently (although this does not
seem to be well-documented) and apparently what ACF2 and every IBM product
do is query SMFRTEST to determine whether the shop wants its record type,
and adjust its logic accordingly.

Charles

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Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 7:47 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Need to include ACF2 SMF 230 in SMFPRMxx?

I asked this question on the ACF2 list. The only answer I got was from the
always-helpful Lizette who indicated a low degree of certainty in her answer
and suggested that I ask here.

I am trying to clarify some product documentation and clean up some internal
logic - I don't have an actual problem.

Question: Assuming an ACF2 shop wants to cut SMF 230 (or other as
configured) records, is it sufficient to specify ACF2=230 on the @SMF macro
of the ACFFDR in UM99901, or is it also necessary that the shop specify
SYS(TYPE(230)) or the equivalent in the SMFPRMxx member of the SYS1.PARMLIB
concatenation?

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Re: Need to include ACF2 SMF 230 in SMFPRMxx?

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:52:36 -0700, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:

Closing the loop, I have now gotten a reply on the ACF2 list from CA
support. (Thanks Ross!)

FWIW, here is my model of how this all works.

SMFPRMxx is a suggestion to SMF-record-writing components. SMF itself does
not filter based on SMFPRMxx. You can code SYS(NOTYPE(199)) and I can still
write a program that uses SMF(E)WTM to write type 199 records and they will
end up in your SMF datasets and/or logstream (subject to any IEFU8x exit).
What a well-behaved program *should* do, apparently (although this does not
seem to be well-documented) and apparently what ACF2 and every IBM product
do is query SMFRTEST to determine whether the shop wants its record type,
and adjust its logic accordingly.

Charles



This is news to me.  I can't speak to the validity without writing my own 
program,
but on the surface doesn't seem to agree with the description for SMFRTEST in 
the SMF manual.  Pay attention to the wording in the last sentence. 


5.8 SMFRTEST -- Testing record recording   

The SMFRTEST macro allows you to determine if a particular type, or subtype,
of a record is being recorded. Issue this macro before collecting data for a
particular record or subtype to avoid the overhead of data collection
if it is not written.

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Re: Catalog Rebuild JCL

2013-10-08 Thread efinnell15

Think CBT File 542 RCNVTCAT will do most of the heavy lifting here.
The doc(attached) says tested thru V1.13


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Also, new support enables you to preserve user catalog connector alias 
entries when you temporarily delete a user catalog so they need not be 
redefined when the catalog is reallocated, and prevent new catalog 
entries using those aliases from being defined until the new catalog is 
available. This is intended to simplify the reallocation of user catalogs

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//*   which is an MCNVTCAT replacement, and the other is*   FILE 542
//*   a tool to find all the catalog alias names in the *   FILE 542
//*   system.  There's some more too... *   FILE 542
//* *   FILE 542
//*  The overview for this PDS  *   FILE 542
//* *   FILE 542
//*  Here are a number of bits of handy REXX code, the list *   FILE 542
//*  may well grow as I tidy up some of my REXX library.*   FILE 542
//* *   FILE 542
//*  There are some of samples of using the DFSMS/MVS   *   FILE 542
//*  Catalog Search Interface (CSI). More detail can be *   FILE 542
//*  found in : *   FILE 542
//* *   FILE 542
//*  DFSMS/MVS - Managing Catalogs - Document Number*   FILE 542
//*  SC26-4914 Appendix D Catalog Search Interface User's  *   FILE 542
//*  Guide *   FILE 542
//* *   FILE 542
//*  The original code was derived from the IBM provided*   FILE 542
//*  sample in 'SYS1.SAMPLIB(IGGCSIRX)' but has been heavily*   FILE 542
//*  modified (including correcting the bugs in that code). *   FILE 542
//* *   FILE 542
//*  Hopefully it is now correct and should work as *   FILE 542
//*  intended.  However as usual, no guarantee is implied.  *   FILE 542
//* *   FILE 542
//*  All code is designed for either foreground or background   *   FILE 542
//*  execution. *   FILE 542
//* *   FILE 542
//*  The pieces are as follows :*   FILE 542
//* *   FILE 542
//*  #DELDUP  - Edit macro to delete duplicate lines*   FILE 542
//* *   FILE 542
//*  #DELNDUP - Edit macro to delete non-duplicate lines*   FILE 542
//* *   FILE 542
//*  ALICOUNT - This simply finds all of the aliases in the *   FILE 542
//* system and gives a count of datasets that   *   FILE 542
//* are using them.  Handy for finding all those*   FILE 542
//* redundant aliases cluttering up your*   FILE 542
//* mastercat.  *   FILE 542
//* *   FILE 542
//*  ALIMAKE  - So you have just disconnected a usercat and *   FILE 542
//* lost all the alises ... Reconnect the catalog   *   FILE 542
//* and then run this to get a DEF ALIAS for all*   FILE 542
//* the 'suitable' HLQs in the catalog. *   FILE 542
//* *   FILE 542
//*  BODGECAT - A sample workaround for a LISTDS on an  *   FILE 542
//* uncataloged dsn.*   FILE 542
//* *   FILE 542
//*  CSICODE  - Base CSI code, setup to be modified for other   *   FILE 542
//* functions. As provided, it simply lists ALL *   FILE 542
//* entries.*   FILE 542
//*

Re: Need to include ACF2 SMF 230 in SMFPRMxx?

2013-10-08 Thread Charles Mills

You may be right. Trying to make complete sense of D SMF,O output may be the 
death of me yet. Also on the ACF2 list Tony Harminc points out the 36 (24) 
return code from SMF(E)WTM. I will investigate further when I have time.

Charles

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Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:14 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Need to include ACF2 SMF 230 in SMFPRMxx?

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:52:36 -0700, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:

Closing the loop, I have now gotten a reply on the ACF2 list from CA 
support. (Thanks Ross!)

FWIW, here is my model of how this all works.

SMFPRMxx is a suggestion to SMF-record-writing components. SMF itself 
does not filter based on SMFPRMxx. You can code SYS(NOTYPE(199)) and I 
can still write a program that uses SMF(E)WTM to write type 199 records 
and they will end up in your SMF datasets and/or logstream (subject to any 
IEFU8x exit).
What a well-behaved program *should* do, apparently (although this does 
not seem to be well-documented) and apparently what ACF2 and every IBM 
product do is query SMFRTEST to determine whether the shop wants its 
record type, and adjust its logic accordingly.

Charles



This is news to me.  I can't speak to the validity without writing my own 
program, but on the surface doesn't seem to agree with the description for 
SMFRTEST in the SMF manual.  Pay attention to the wording in the last sentence. 


5.8 SMFRTEST -- Testing record recording   

The SMFRTEST macro allows you to determine if a particular type, or subtype,
of a record is being recorded. Issue this macro before collecting data for a
particular record or subtype to avoid the overhead of data collection
if it is not written.

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Small font in z/OS Internet Library

2013-10-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht

Heads-up for those who are *still* using micro$oft internet exploder:

In http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/

It is stated there:

* NOTE: If you are using Microsoft Internet Explorer® and the fonts are too 
small, please see this article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/956197 


I post this heads-up because of recent discussion about small fonts here 

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

Among other things, it wastes a lot of space on a 3592 and doubles the number 
of tapes and tape mounts required for each cycle of the dump class.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 5:39 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

Has anyone else run into this and how did you solve it?

I must be missing something!
Why is this a problem?
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Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

Full volume dumps scheduled by HSM using DUMPCYCLE and AUTODUMSTART parameters.

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Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 5:37 AM
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Subject: Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

EXT-Schwarz, Barry wrote:

On z/OS 1.11, the HSM manual says a stacked dump tape can contain dumps
from both SMS and non-SMS packs.  However, with STACK(99), every test
case I have run results in SMS packs first going to one 3592 tape
(genned as 3590-1) and then non-SMS packs going to a second tape.  I
have tried with 1, 2, and 3 SMS packs of different sizes and HSM always
changes tapes after processing all the SMS packs in the dump class.

What are you using to write to the tape? I'm asking because if you use
BACKVOL, the STACK parameter is ignored.

Has anyone else run into this and how did you solve it?

No, not me. ;-)

Groete / Greetings
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Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

So the manual is just flat out wrong?

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Behalf Of Staller, Allan
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 5:52 AM
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Subject: Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

In my opinion, this cannot be done.

In my shop, HSM, performs all SMS managed functions, followed by all
non-SMS managed functions

There is a further separation in the non-SMS managed functions. All
stacked functions are performed before non-stacked functions.

HTH,

snip
On z/OS 1.11, the HSM manual says a stacked dump tape can contain dumps
from both SMS and non-SMS packs.  However, with STACK(99), every test
case I have run results in SMS packs first going to one 3592 tape
(genned as 3590-1) and then non-SMS packs going to a second tape.  I
have tried with 1, 2, and 3 SMS packs of different sizes and HSM always
changes tapes after processing all the SMS packs in the dump class.

Has anyone else run into this and how did you solve it?
/snip

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Re: Small font in z/OS Internet Library

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:42:27 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:

Heads-up for those who are *still* using micro$oft internet exploder:

In http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/

It is stated there:

* NOTE: If you are using Microsoft Internet Explorer® and the fonts are too 
small, please see this article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/956197 


I post this heads-up because of recent discussion about small fonts here 


Yes, but the problem is IE remembers the setting by domain.   So one must
put blahblah.IBM.COM  in compatibility mode to use the information centers, 
then 
you have to turn it off again for IBMLINK.

IMO, this is as much an IBM problem as M$SOFT.  Firefox works fine, but 
I'm sure there is something IBM could do to fix it as well.  Considering how
much of the corporate world forces IE on their users and doesn't allow
them to install / use alternatives.   Fortunately, I do have a choice.

Mark
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Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

Each DUMPCLASS specifies DAY(n) determining the day of the week it runs, 
UNIT(3590-1), and STACK(99) to fill up a tape.  TAPEUTILIZATION specifies 97% 
of a 3590-1.  AUTODUMPSTART specifies a three hour window of which no more than 
15 minutes is being used.

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Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 5:57 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

Could you provide more detail?

What parameters do you have set in HSM for stacking on your dump
classes?
What timeframes are involved? When do you dump and expect stacking?
Could you provide your SETSYS parms for dump and stacking?

HSM should stack all the volumes on one tape based on the following
criteria

Copy pool dump processing is given priority in this phase. Dump
processing proceeds as follows:

 Copy pool volumes with affinity to the processing host that are to be
stacked
 Copy pool volumes with no affinity that are to be stacked Non-copy
 pool volumes with affinity to the processing host that are to be
stacked
 Non-copy pool volumes with no affinity that are to be stacked Copy
 pool volumes with affinity that are not to be stacked Copy pool
 volumes with no affinity that are not to be stacked Non-copy pool
 volumes with affinity that are not to be stacked Non-copy pool volumes
 with no affinity that are not to be stacked Non-SMS volumes

Are you sure all of the volumes you are dumping will fit on one tape
volume?

Have you tried just setting up one volume SMS and NON-SMS in your dump
class and see if that works?

Are you manually running the process or is DFHSM running it on a
schedule?

Thanks

Lizette

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Behalf Of EXT-Schwarz, Barry
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 5:03 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

On z/OS 1.11, the HSM manual says a stacked dump tape can contain dumps
from both SMS and non-SMS packs.  However, with STACK(99), every test
case I have run results in SMS packs first going to one 3592 tape
(genned as 3590-1) and then non-SMS packs going to a second tape.  I
have tried with 1, 2, and 3 SMS packs of different sizes and HSM always
changes tapes after processing all the SMS packs in the dump class.

Has anyone else run into this and how did you solve it?

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Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

I have never been able to do what you are attempting in the last 9+ years.
(I tried, it would have solved some problems for me.)

Maybe Glenn Wilcox can jump in here and enlighten us all..


snip
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of EXT-Schwarz, Barry
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 1:47 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

So the manual is just flat out wrong?

: Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

In my opinion, this cannot be done.

In my shop, HSM, performs all SMS managed functions, followed by all 
non-SMS managed functions

There is a further separation in the non-SMS managed functions. All 
stacked functions are performed before non-stacked functions.

HTH,

snip
On z/OS 1.11, the HSM manual says a stacked dump tape can contain dumps 
from both SMS and non-SMS packs.  However, with STACK(99), every test 
case I have run results in SMS packs first going to one 3592 tape 
(genned as 3590-1) and then non-SMS packs going to a second tape.  I 
have tried with 1, 2, and 3 SMS packs of different sizes and HSM always 
changes tapes after processing all the SMS packs in the dump class.

Has anyone else run into this and how did you solve it?
/snip

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Re: Stacking SMS and non-SMS disk on same HSM dump tape

z/OS 1/12 and above offer the ability for stack(255)

HTH,

Each DUMPCLASS specifies DAY(n) determining the day of the week it runs, 
UNIT(3590-1), and STACK(99) to fill up a tape.  TAPEUTILIZATION specifies 97% 
of a 3590-1.  AUTODUMPSTART specifies a three hour window of which no more than 
15 minutes is being used.
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Re: Need to include ACF2 SMF 230 in SMFPRMxx?

2013-10-08 Thread Scott Ford

Mark,
 
You do not need to ...It comes that way right out of the box...

Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com/
 
 


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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Need to include ACF2 SMF 230 in SMFPRMxx?
  

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:52:36 -0700, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:

Closing the loop, I have now gotten a reply on the ACF2 list from CA
support. (Thanks Ross!)

FWIW, here is my model of how this all works.

SMFPRMxx is a suggestion to SMF-record-writing components. SMF itself does
not filter based on SMFPRMxx. You can code SYS(NOTYPE(199)) and I can still
write a program that uses SMF(E)WTM to write type 199 records and they will
end up in your SMF datasets and/or logstream (subject to any IEFU8x exit).
What a well-behaved program *should* do, apparently (although this does not
seem to be well-documented) and apparently what ACF2 and every IBM product
do is query SMFRTEST to determine whether the shop wants its record type,
and adjust its logic accordingly.

Charles



This is news to me.  I can't speak to the validity without writing my own 
program,
but on the surface doesn't seem to agree with the description for SMFRTEST in 
the SMF manual.  Pay attention to the wording in the last sentence. 


5.8 SMFRTEST -- Testing record recording  

The SMFRTEST macro allows you to determine if a particular type, or subtype,
of a record is being recorded. Issue this macro before collecting data for a
particular record or subtype to avoid the overhead of data collection
if it is not written.

Regards,

Mark
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Re: Need to include ACF2 SMF 230 in SMFPRMxx?

Scott, 

Your response isn't clear to me.  Are you saying what Charles wrote is 
accurate (SMFPRMxx setting doesn't really matter) or that SMFPRMxx
always has the final say (as I always thought it did up until Charles posted).

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top posting get mixed in the same thread lately?  I prefer bottom,
but will go with the flow once started.  Is it that hard to follow
what's already there and do something different than your default
reply settings in your email program? /end soap box



On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 12:02:46 -0700, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:

Mark,
�
You do not need to ...It comes that way right out of the box...

Scott J Ford
Software Engineer
http://www.identityforge.com/
�
 


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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Need to include ACF2 SMF 230 in SMFPRMxx?
  

On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:52:36 -0700, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:

Closing the loop, I have now gotten a reply on the ACF2 list from CA
support. (Thanks Ross!)

FWIW, here is my model of how this all works.

SMFPRMxx is a suggestion to SMF-record-writing components. SMF itself does
not filter based on SMFPRMxx. You can code SYS(NOTYPE(199)) and I can still
write a program that uses SMF(E)WTM to write type 199 records and they will
end up in your SMF datasets and/or logstream (subject to any IEFU8x exit).
What a well-behaved program *should* do, apparently (although this does not
seem to be well-documented) and apparently what ACF2 and every IBM product
do is query SMFRTEST to determine whether the shop wants its record type,
and adjust its logic accordingly.

Charles



This is news to me.� I can't speak to the validity without writing my own 
program,
but on the surface doesn't seem to agree with the description for SMFRTEST in 
the SMF manual.� Pay attention to the wording in the last sentence. 


5.8 SMFRTEST -- Testing record recording� 

The SMFRTEST macro allows you to determine if a particular type, or subtype,
of a record is being recorded. Issue this macro before collecting data for a
particular record or subtype to avoid the overhead of data collection
if it is not written.

Regards,

Mark
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Re: Need to include ACF2 SMF 230 in SMFPRMxx?

2013-10-08 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg

At 13:13 -0500 on 10/08/2013, Mark Zelden wrote about Re: Need to 
include ACF2 SMF 230 in SMFPRMxx?:



 SMFPRMxx is a suggestion to SMF-record-writing components. SMF itself does

not filter based on SMFPRMxx. You can code SYS(NOTYPE(199)) and I can still
write a program that uses SMF(E)WTM to write type 199 records and they will
end up in your SMF datasets and/or logstream (subject to any IEFU8x exit).
What a well-behaved program *should* do, apparently (although this does not
seem to be well-documented) and apparently what ACF2 and every IBM product
do is query SMFRTEST to determine whether the shop wants its record type,

 and adjust its logic accordingly.

This is news to me.  I can't speak to the validity without writing 
my own program, but on the surface doesn't seem to agree with the 
description for SMFRTEST in the SMF manual.  Pay attention to the 
wording in the last sentence.


5.8 SMFRTEST -- Testing record recording  

The SMFRTEST macro allows you to determine if a particular type, or subtype,
of a record is being recorded. Issue this macro before collecting data for a
particular record or subtype to avoid the overhead of data collection
if it is not written.


The wording is based on the assumption that the test will be done 
before an attempt to add the record to the SMF dataset and that the 
record will thus not be submitted if the result indicates that the 
record is not to be recorded. This does NOT however say that a 
submission of such a record will be rejected by SMF. The wording 
needs to be updated to mention testing before submitting since there 
is a difference between the records being blocked by SMF itself and 
the submitters not submitting due to the macro call results.


There is a subtle difference in the significance of that sentence. 
This is that it is worded as Do not bother to do the collection 
since there WILL [not the correct (if submitters check before 
submitting) SHOULD] not be any records.


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Performance Monitors from IBM

2013-10-08 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.

Has anyone used IBM's Hardware Instrumentation Services or IBM's Application 
Performance Analysis tool?  If so, any comments on them as to how hard or easy 
they are to setup and use?

Chris Blaicher
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Re: JCL Symbol Resolution

2013-10-08 Thread Mitch

Kees:

Your points are well worth considering.  As I had mentioned in a previous 
comment to this string, there are products available 
that make it possible to do all that you require outside of (independent of) 
any particular scheduling environment, and they are well suited to interface 
seamlessly with a variety of ISV tools that are part of this environment.

Regards,

Mitch



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From: Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com
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Subject: Re: JCL Symbol Resolution


Did you consider well the pro's and con's of widely using the Contol-M 
features? 
his will tie you rigidly to this product and will cost you a lot of work if you 
ecide to convert to another scheduler in the future. Having learned from 
yncsort and PDSMAN whose features were not compatible with the corresponding 
BM products, we only use a few of the % features of Control-M and only in a 
ery controlled group of jobs. This also answers your question partly.
Kees.
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ubject: JCL Symbol Resolution
We are about to become a new BMC Control-M installation.  Part of this involves 
hanging our JCL to reference Control-M symbols.  So instead of a plain-jane JOB 
ard, we might have something where the accounting field is supplied as %%ACCT 
nd the JOB CLASS is specified as %%JC.
This is all good in PROD, where these symbols are resolved from job definitions 
y Control-M before submission.
But what about unit testing?  For one, I don't want to run unit test jobs from 
ontrol-M, since our license will count these against our limit.  And I don't 
ant to force our developers to edit the JCL before submission, since (a) it 
ould be a PITA, and (b) they would surely forget to cancel the edit, corrupting 
he member.
What I really want is the ability for developers to perform a special SUBMIT 
rom their ISPF EDIT session, where:
a) the developer is prompted to resolve the symbols before the JCL text is 
ritten  to INTRDR, and/or
b) the symbols are resolved from some configuration file before the modified 
CL is written to INTRDR.
I think that some kind of ISPF EDIT MACRO could do this work, but I have 
orgotten how to do this.  I am hoping that this is a common enough problem that 
omeone else may have developed a solution they could share.
Note that I know that there are some things related to Control-M that a simple 
DIT Macro could not solve.  Stuff like the %%IF-%%ELSE-%%ENDIF sequences and 
he built in functions for date calculations and character substrings.  But 
hese are rare enough that I would be happy with a simple symbol substitution 
olution.
I have asked our sysprogs to pose this question to BMC and CetanCorp.  But I 
uspect that their answer will revolve around their new JCLVERIFY product.  If 
his can work standalone without adding to our license count, that would be 
reat. Otherwise we will need this other solution.
Also, I will need to bring this up with the supplier of our current JCL 
alidation utility - the product known as JED (dcmsi.com).  This has one nice 
eature that the new JCLVERIFY lacks, the ability to display the contents of 
arameter members, both PDS and PANVALET.  JED is also capable of validating 
hings like SORT and IDCAMS control statements.
John

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