>>> On 1/28/2016 at 07:18 AM, "R.S." wrote:
> I vaguely remember such configuration should work, but it doesn't. I'm
> trying to find out what's wrong with my setup?
> Does it matter whether ICC session is defined as console or terminal? (I
> tried both)
>
W dniu 2016-01-28 o 16:01, John McKown pisze:
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Stevet wrote:
But doesn't IBM have their own version of Java? And wasn't this why they
were not affected by the zero day exploits of Sun & Oracle Java?
Yes. But IBM's Java in on the IBM side
Thank you for the clarification. For some reason, I had thought
that IBM also had Java for the x86 platforms (Winderz in particular).
I guess I need to spend brain cells on Java, which I would rather
drink than write -- given some of the Java I've had to unwind...
Past life at the HAL 9000
I'm not very VM literate but when I IPL our VM/Linux LPAR's, we have to add
CONS= to the load parm part of the IPL screen.
Bobby Herring
Texas Farm Bureau Insurance
Waco, TX 76710
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On 26 January 2016 at 13:59, Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> We had a problem, appearing only fairly recently I believe, where a customer
> using non-IBM software on non-IBM hardware found load modules produced
> by Binder failing. Regressing to Linkage
Well that's cool. It's just an FA issue then; but nothing that might actually
cause a problem (other than slight confusion)?
> Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 11:49:23 +1000
> From: ha...@au1.ibm.com
> Subject: Re: MODULE AMODE
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> we have noticed the same
I've done this for a few VM installs. It's been a couple of years, but
here's what I'm pretty sure of. You have to possess (delivered or
self-created) an IPLable DVD containing the VM kernel code. You insert the
DVD into an actual directly-connected HMC and select 'Load from Media'. The
DVD reader
IBM-MAIN recently had a thread on the delicate problem of finding the right
Windows Java to communicate remotely with HMC functions, especially Op Sys
Messages. We ourselves had that problem here. Once we got the HMC to the latest
microcode level, we've been stable with current GA Java release
I will admit that I haven't followed this entire thread but this facility is
designed to rename datasets that exist on multiple volumes (like ipl volumes).
For SMS managed datasets they must be cataloged and therefore can't exist on
multiple volumes.
Therefore the enq is held because that
I for one would appreciate a comment from someone in DFSMS on this topic. It's
really important to know *in advance* whether the RACF approach will work for
an SMS managed dataset. Or an experiment by someone who can actually try it.
(Unfortunately I cannot at the moment.)
.
.
.
J.O.Skip
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 19:36:19 +1100, Paul Gillis wrote:
>We have a standard home grown utility, a little like Eileen's, scanning LPA,
>Dynamic LPA, Nucleus etc. It also scans all ISPF libraries if allocated,
>including SYSPROC and SYSEXEC. Not sure why it was written originally but I
>have used
Sorry if I've confused the matter. What I meant was that only a very few
important and relatively simple changes to the definition of OBJ objects and
load module programs are made (nothing that would require new constructs).
AMODE 64 is an example of one of those. Other than those, new
Hi Bill,
Point taken. But my point was that if your JCL uses a PDS rather than a PDSE,
in some cases you'll get the binder error "IEW2606S 4B39 MODULE INCORPORATES
VERSION 3 PROGRAM OBJECT FEATURES AND CANNOT BE SAVED IN LOAD MODULE FORMAT."
As the PL/I procs do (the ones with "P" in their
W dniu 2016-01-28 o 17:33, Herring, Bobby pisze:
I'm not very VM literate but when I IPL our VM/Linux LPAR's, we have to add
CONS= to the load parm part of the IPL screen.
Yes, that's right, but I'm talking about something different. It is not
LOAD (regular IPL), but "Load from Removable
What you're missing is that the world can be more complicated than the playbook
indicates. We for example created a 'bronze-plex' some years ago. (Please lower
your flame throwers.) We bolted together two different sysplexes in order to
satisfy an IBM requirement for sysplex pricing. These
It's curious that you're getting this message if you do not have the issuing
product installed. Search on IBM ServiceLink shows this:
OUTPUT MANAGER FOR Z/OS 210
or
TIVOLI OUTPUT MANAGER
Associated with FMID HAAX210 , HAAX230 , or HAAX310 . It would seem that this
product is or once was
We don't yet have the 'new' z/OSMF (with Liberty profile) running on V2. I
understand that it's a fairly involved conversion; certainly more than a tweak.
But I did have to make changes to our z/OS migration process to accommodate a
different ZFS name.
.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern
http://www.fujitsu.com/global/products/computing/servers/mainframe/globalserver/
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Tony Harminc wrote:
> On 26 January 2016 at 13:59, Paul Gilmartin
> <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>> We had a problem, appearing only
On Jan 28, 2016, at 8:51 AM, Walt Farrell wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 18:40:45 -0600, Paul Gilmartin
wrote:
I thought from discussions here a few years ago that IBM has
provided a
facility that supports renaming of an ENQUEUEd DSN, in the VTOC,
after
requesting
Has anyone said this? It might not have come from any DSN, right? I do a
GETMAIN, I move or build some code somehow in the GETMAIN storage, I do an
IDENTIFY. What DSN did that entry point come from?
Charles
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 10:45:06 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>Has anyone said this? It might not have come from any DSN, right? I do a
>GETMAIN, I move or build some code somehow in the GETMAIN storage, I do an
>IDENTIFY. What DSN did that entry point come from?
>
You need considerable privilege
Does anyone watch YouTube?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLMqkuou2-s
That seems to exhibit commitment for the future of COBOL on IBM Mainframes.
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>>> On 1/28/2016 at 10:40 AM, Steve Thompson wrote:
> Thank you for the clarification. For some reason, I had thought
> that IBM also had Java for the x86 platforms (Winderz in particular).
SUSE currently ships IBM's Java on all our architectures. I believe we're
moving
Which part requires elevated privileges?
Charles
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I don't think this relates to OP's question, as he specifically stated "loaded
via LOAD macro".
Leo
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Gilbert's BYPASSNQ would be my choice if SMS prevents the newer RACF controlled
RENAME/DELETE path. I only temporarily APF the loadlib long enough to get the
job done. Haven't needed to in years.
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Hmm, the page displays a "Supper-scale Mainframe System" and a "Large-scale
Mainframe System."
If someone asked me if I'd rather have supper or large, I guess my answer would
depend on how hungry I was
Regards,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company
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True.
And worse, some (most?) people are partially in each camp. They (we all?)
are Legacy on some issues and Modern on others.
Charles
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To:
Hmmm. IIRC, IBM asked customers for input as to addressing needs of COBOL.
I understood that 64bit addressing was heard loud and clear.
Sent from iPhone - small keyboard fat fingers - expect spellinf errots.
>
> Since COBOL does not and will not in the foreseeable future need
> amode 64 I
W dniu 2016-01-28 o 19:44, Charles Mills pisze:
I cannot speak for IBM, but IMHO they may have felt that way at one time,
but EC 5.2 is clearly an investment on IBM's part and a commitment to the
future of COBOL.
You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs. "Add new features" and "make
it go
Well that's still better than the web-based userid access request system
where I worked. The main page said "Order ID's and Assess"
Greg Shirey wrote:
Hmm, the page displays a "Supper-scale Mainframe System" and a "Large-scale Mainframe System."
If someone asked me if I'd rather have
Another update after many breaks in my research. I have not been able to find
any fault with the IBM code. In doing some research on JES2 initialization, I
haven't seen anything that tells JES to ignore invalid DESTs or require valid
DESTs. I can change any report in the output queue with
I'm not sure about the ISAM part. I HATED ISAM. If you enjoy watching your
jobs grind away seemingly foreverthen you liked ISAM. I've always loved
VSAMmaybe because I hated ISAM so much.
Ever have ISAM job that did an Update in Place (not file in/ file out)ugghh
!
Thanks,
People,
I have been following the COBOL V5 debate with interest,
Currently, when using the binder to create a program object, the output load
library MUST be a PDSE.
There is a lot of animosity about PDSEs. They have been around for many
years. But, when it comes to sharing them across
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 08:52:00 +1100, Peter Morrison wrote:
>
>I have been following the COBOL V5 debate with interest,
>
>Currently, when using the binder to create a program object, the output load
>library MUST be a PDSE.
>
No. (I believe) It might instead be a UNIX directory.
>There is a lot
I like the new stuff. I'd use it if I needed it, it was helpful, and I had
hardware capable.
But, we do share our application loadlib between monoplex LPARs. It is
read-only from all but the development Lpar.
It's not impossible to revise our change control split off a copy to
production, but
I like the idea. IBM could go to z13SS (Supper-Scale) and z13LS (Lunch-Scale).
Charles
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Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:21 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re:
I have a Multiprise 3000 - 7060 P30.
I would find it more convenient to have more space for emulated DASD.
I'm therefore doing what was apparently quite a common (although
unsupported) change; replacing the 9Gb OS/2 SSA drives with 18Gb
drives. This will allow a much larger G: drive for emulated
On 01/28/2016 10:37 AM, Skip Robinson wrote:
> I for one would appreciate a comment from someone in DFSMS on this topic.
> It's really important to know *in advance* whether the RACF approach will
> work for an SMS managed dataset. Or an experiment by someone who can actually
> try it.
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 19:11:12 +, Leonardo Vaz wrote:
>I don't think this relates to OP's question, as he specifically
>stated "loaded via LOAD macro".
BLDL will tell you the concatenation number where the module was found,
as well as whether it was found on LNKLST or JOBLIB/STEPLIB.
--
Sort of. What we're seeing is that a search returns links to SHARE confex
proceedings and if clicked opens or downloads the presentation.
* _IBM z13 Overview - Confex_
(https://share.confex.com/share/124/webprogram/Handout/Session16704/The%20New%20IBM%20%20z13%20%20PART%201%20-%20SHA
Hmmm. Interesting. The doc does seem to imply just exactly that. See return
code 0C. I am surprised. Seems to me I have done exactly what I described, but
perhaps I mis-remember. No variant in Authorized Assembler Services.
Charles
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 10:58:05 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>Which part requires elevated privileges?
>
>On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 10:45:06 -0800, Charles Mills wrote:
>
>>... GETMAIN ...?
>>
>You need considerable privilege to do that, but, yes.
>
From:
z/OS 2.1.0>z/OS MVS>z/OS MVS Programming:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 15:36:46 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote:
>On 28 January 2016 at 15:16, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>> Description
>> The IDENTIFY macro is used to add an entry name to a copy of a load
>> module
>> currently in virtual storage. The copy must be one of the following:
>>
>> A
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 10:46:41 -0600, Doug Henry wrote:
>I will admit that I haven't followed this entire thread but this facility is
>designed to rename datasets that exist on multiple volumes (like ipl volumes).
>For SMS managed datasets they must be cataloged and
On 28 January 2016 at 15:16, Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Description
> The IDENTIFY macro is used to add an entry name to a copy of a load module
> currently in virtual storage. The copy must be one of the following:
>
> A copy that
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 03:57:53 -0600, Yong Yin wrote:
>Hi Gil:
>This is Yong (Ian) Yin of binder team.
>Would you please provided more information about this problem? Such as JCL,
>JES output.
>Thanks.
>
Thank you for your interest.
As I said, Linkage Editor continues to work for us. I talked
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 08:52:00 +1100, Peter Morrison wrote:
>you would get all the advantages of a program object
>with none of the problems associated with a PDSE.
Not all. For example, when a program object is loaded, the system can
load only the first page. Then other pages are loaded as the
Email to Darren at dar...@bama.edu bounced. So I will beg forgiveness if this
post is not appropriate.
TELUS has a number of full time mainframe systems programming positions
recently opened for residents of Canada.
Office location could be negotiable, but must be in Canada.
Enter the keyword
On Jan 28, 2016, at 12:44 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
I cannot speak for IBM, but IMHO they may have felt that way at one
time,
but EC 5.2 is clearly an investment on IBM's part and a commitment
to the
future of COBOL.
You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs. "Add new features"
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JNGI1dI-e8
I guess they never watched Spaceballs.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/27/worlds_worst_passwords_hardcoded_into_lenovo_shareit/
>
> Lenovo ShareIT users, get patching: the
No, nothing in the Unix space
Cheers,
Paul Gillis
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Subject: Re: Need to find the DSN from where load
Is it Friday yet? Well, just a bit early.
I remember those ISAM days all too well. Our solution to large ISAM insert
jobs was "update in reverse", i.e., sort the input in descending ISAM key order
and process from high to low. That was many times faster than inserting in
ascending key order
On Jan 28, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Stevet wrote:
Hmmm. IIRC, IBM asked customers for input as to addressing needs
of COBOL.
I understood that 64bit addressing was heard loud and clear.
Sent from iPhone - small keyboard fat fingers - expect spellinf
errots.
Stevet:
Look at the archives on
Disney forgot to include a No disclosure / no lawsuit clause.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 5:34 PM, esst...@juno.com wrote:
> Interesting Article
> .
> .
> .
> http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/01/25/suit-claims-disney-abused-visa-rules.html?v
> ia=newsletter=CSAMedition
>
>
Interesting Article
.
.
.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/01/25/suit-claims-disney-abused-visa-rules.html?v
ia=newsletter=CSAMedition
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/27/
worlds_worst_passwords_hardcoded_into_lenovo_shareit/
Lenovo ShareIT users, get patching: the PC maker's file-sharing app
is pretty much unsecured.
The software runs on Windows and Android devices, and creates a Wi-Fi
hotspot allowing data to be
W dniu 2016-01-28 o 23:58, Charles Mills pisze:
I like the idea. IBM could go to z13SS (Supper-Scale) and z13LS (Lunch-Scale).
SS is still not the best choice. Maybe you don't believe, but it's still
remembered.
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Maybe it's oldtimers. _dar...@bama.ua.edu_ (mailto:dar...@bama.ua.edu) or
maybe _darren@ua.edu_ (mailto:dar...@ua.edu) .
In a message dated 1/28/2016 6:05:08 P.M. Central Standard Time,
gary.ja...@telus.com writes:
dar...@bama.edu bounced.
It's been a few years... but
I think you have plugged in a z/VM install disc in the side of the Service Unit
on the mainframe box (aka the Thinkpad) and booted it in an LPAR?
Just go to the 'Integrated 3270 console', or just 'Operating System Messages'
on the HMC for that LPAR and follow the
W dniu 2016-01-28 o 03:35, Mark Post pisze:
On 1/27/2016 at 05:30 PM, "R.S." wrote:
z/VM Installation Manual says I should first launch Integrated 3270
console before Load.
Otherwise I get wait state.
Q: can I use other console instead, for example ICC console?
As
Another round of fun with the HMC code coming:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/28/java_plugins_deprecated_in_jdk9/
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Well, time for IBM to move from Java to maybe JavaScript or Google Go. Or,
horrors, I actually have some software which allows me to embed GNU COBOL
in a web page, ala PHP.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 6:42 AM, David Boyes wrote:
> Another round of fun with the HMC code
Walt,
Yes, I own the code which loads the programs and creates the environment, so to
speak.
I would like to thank everyone for their assistance, including those who
emailed me privately. Due to the relative complexity of accomplishing this with
the multiple potential variables within the
We have a standard home grown utility, a little like Eileen's, scanning LPA,
Dynamic LPA, Nucleus etc. It also scans all ISPF libraries if allocated,
including SYSPROC and SYSEXEC. Not sure why it was written originally but I
have used it to find what libraries load modules exist in that were
Hi Gil:
This is Yong (Ian) Yin of binder team.
Would you please provided more information about this problem? Such as JCL,
JES output.
Thanks.
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Yes. Many sites allow you to access an article if you are coming from
a search engine. Not allowed to go to another page unless you have a
membership / subscription.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Skip Robinson
wrote:
> Could I ask for clarification on this issue? I
I cannot speak for IBM, but IMHO they may have felt that way at one time,
but EC 5.2 is clearly an investment on IBM's part and a commitment to the
future of COBOL.
You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs. "Add new features" and "make
it go into an old-fashioned load module" are
On 25 Jan 2016 10:24:42 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>A bigger question than whether COBOL V5 requires PDSE load library--yes it
>does--is why that requirement causes so much consternation in the customer
>community. Based on discussions at SHARE, I think there are several kinds of
I have forgotten why this behavior is deemed a problem. It's how JES(2) has
always worked AFAIK. You can specify DEST=HAROLD with no adverse effect. The
associated output will sit demurely in spool forever until HAROLD is defined to
some device or other existing destination. A lot of normal
On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 18:40:45 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>I thought from discussions here a few years ago that IBM has provided a
>facility that supports renaming of an ENQUEUEd DSN, in the VTOC, after
>requesting confirmation from the operators' console that that DSN on
W dniu 2016-01-28 o 13:42, David Boyes pisze:
Another round of fun with the HMC code coming:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/28/java_plugins_deprecated_in_jdk9/
It's not only HMC (and SE). Nowadays many devices have java-based GUI
for administration purposes.
Even in mainframe world.
Could I ask for clarification on this issue? I got the impression on cursory
reading that a SHARE presentation was accessible directly via a Google link
but not via drill down on SHARE.org. Did I misunderstand?
.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team
But doesn't IBM have their own version of Java? And wasn't this why they were
not affected by the zero day exploits of Sun & Oracle Java?
Or am I missing something here?
Sent from iPhone - small keyboard fat fingers - expect spellinf errots.
> On Jan 28, 2016, at 7:42 AM, David Boyes
*NO*. "IBM JAVA" is a port of the "original"
But doesn't IBM have their own version of Java? And wasn't this why they were
not affected by the zero day exploits of Sun & Oracle Java?
Or am I missing something here?
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On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Stevet wrote:
> But doesn't IBM have their own version of Java? And wasn't this why they
> were not affected by the zero day exploits of Sun & Oracle Java?
>
Yes. But IBM's Java in on the IBM side of the world. The non-support of
Java for
On 28 January 2016 at 16:14, Charles Mills wrote:
> Hmmm. Interesting. The doc does seem to imply just exactly that. See return
> code 0C. I am surprised. Seems to me I have done exactly what I described,
> but perhaps I mis-remember.
Very strange. I too thought I remembered
On 29 January 2016 at 00:02, Skip Robinson wrote:
> I have forgotten why this behavior is deemed a problem. It's how JES(2) has
> always worked AFAIK. You can specify DEST=HAROLD with no adverse effect. The
> associated output will sit demurely in spool forever until
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