Well some of us old timers wrote CLISTs to put in symbols and submit to
intrdr. Then in 80's we got File Tailoring with ISPF.
In a message dated 7/22/2016 12:32:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com writes:
Prior to that, it was available to started tasks only.
On 7/21/2016 10:05 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
I gotta ask, how on earth have you guys survived all these years
without system symbols support enabled in JES?
Never mind. I answered my own question.
It's been only three years since this support became generally available
in JES2.
Prior to that,
>I gotta ask, how on earth have you guys survived all these years
>without system symbols support enabled in JES?
For production jobs, I guess the schedulers jumped in. They long (always?)
supported symbols that will be resolver at submit time. A couple of date/time
symbols and even better
On 7/21/2016 5:27 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
In my successful tests, however, it's not clear what class I was running in
because of WLM. I enabled only CLASS A for SYSSYM.
ICH70001I TSOSKIP LAST ACCESS AT 17:13:07 ON THURSDAY, JULY 21, 2016
$HASP373 TIMETEST STARTED - WLM INIT - SRVCLASS
I would guess the CI accepted it as CLASS=A and did the requisite
substitution and wrote it to SPOOL to be executed. From there WLM and Exits
provided a CLASS to run.
In a message dated 7/21/2016 7:28:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
jesse1.robin...@sce.com writes:
In fact, there is an
A good idea, but why impose the extra paragraph-name per SECTION?
procedure division.
main section.
mainline.
perform one
perform two
goback
.
one section.
[...do something...]
exit section
.
two section.
[...do
Thanks to everyone. I indicated in my original post that I had turned on SYSSYM
for Class A, but I was using obsolete system symbols. Duh. It was simple after
all.
In my successful tests, however, it's not clear what class I was running in
because of WLM. I enabled only CLASS A for SYSSYM.
On 2016-07-21 15:20, Cieri, Anthony wrote:
>
> Try $D JOBCLASS(*),SYSSYM
>
Thanks. That shows me that all job classes at my site have DISALLOW.
But that works only because I have operator privilege. Let me ask
the question on behalf of a hypothetical programmer who hasn't
such
I think the possibility should be considered that the OP may have mistakenly
been looking at the 16 bytes at AREA+2, not AREA. If that happened, and the
missing bytes are hex , the results would be correct for a device with
65520 cylinders.
Bill
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:30:41 -0500, Mike
Skip,
The following jcl should do the trick -
//ZZZSKIP JOB (ZZZ,1234),'TEST',
// MSGCLASS=2,CLASS=M,NOTIFY=,
// MSGLEVEL=(1,1),TIME=1440,
// REGION=0M
I'm also going to post this in the IBM COBOL Cafe, but I'm not sure how many
people actually use that site...
So as you might know, I'm interested/excited about the new "EXIT" statements in
Enterprise COBOL. I just had a thought on a good use of EXIT SECTION.
We too often run in to issues
W dniu 2016-07-21 o 16:54, Tim Hare pisze:
[...]
You can test the difference in speed - find a large dataset (or create one),
and FTP it using the OSA network and the other system's non-hipersocket IP
address, then FTP the same file using the hipersocket IP address.
Actually I did it.
You didn't have to accept the licensing agreement. If I remember correctly it
said something after the trial period they would consider it an IPLA product.
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Try $D JOBCLASS(*),SYSSYM
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On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 19:53:44 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
>
> >I'm trying to use system symbols in batch JCL under z/OS 2.1.
> Specifically, I'd like to create a DSN like this:
> >
>
Table 1 describes the dynamic system symbols and the releases for which they are
valid. The names of the following system symbols are changed from previous
releases of MVST:
New symbol Old symbol
>From the z/OS V2.2 manual
>3 // SET D=
Without verifying exactly with the manual, I seem to remember that it talks
about old and new date and time symbols. is an old one and this does not
work (I don't know if this is documented somewhere). is a new symbol
and this one is working with batch JCL.
Try using and (I
On 7/21/2016 12:53 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
I'm trying to use system symbols in batch JCL under z/OS 2.1. Specifically, I'd
like to create a DSN like this:
TSOSKIP.REPORT.D-local-date.T-local-time
I've perused KC but still cannot get to work. Now maybe DSN simply does not
allow
Look if your jobclass is defined as SYSSYM=ALLOW
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Skip - try closing the symbolic with a dot
DSN= TSOSKIP.REPORT.D
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I'm trying to use system symbols in batch JCL under z/OS 2.1. Specifically, I'd
like to create a DSN like this:
TSOSKIP.REPORT.D-local-date.T-local-time
I've perused KC but still cannot get to work. Now maybe DSN simply does not
allow embedded symbolics, but I did not see that prohibition.
> Volume Data
> Tracks . : 982,800
/ 15 = 65,520 = X'FFF0'
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Campbell Jay wrote:
> Agree with John.
> Doc should say first halfword of bytes 0 - 3 & 4 - 7.
>
> MJI2 e . : IM404A
> Command ===>
>
> Unit . . : 3390
>
> Volume Data
by the way, if you do get either EXPLORER installed, there is a major problem
when trying to connect to z/os.
It turned out that even though IBM supplies a copy of the JRE in the EXPLORER
directories, it contains some security options which yield
some cryptic RSA key error. This happened with
Thanks Elardus, all valid thoughts.
I am backlevel on Natural, Adabas and EntireX from SAG. Moving back to
upgrading EntireX as it also broke under z/OS 2.1
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> On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht
Agree with John.
Doc should say first halfword of bytes 0 - 3 & 4 - 7.
MJI2 e . : IM404A
Command ===>
I just installed the latest AQUA verion of both explorers and could not get
anywhere with installation manager. just download the zip file.
There was nothing about having to purchase anything.
The real fun was trying to install the features into it. the HELP 'INSTALL
NEW SOFTWARE' option
I think Darrell is on the right track. The value at 001CD468 is 4074. I think
possible (Sag code does it frequently) that the intent was to cause an 0C1, but
with z/OS 2.1 the target isn’t valid for code and thus an 0C4 occurred.
In any case, by my earlier note, I have things working for now.
I just got word from Jay Campbell that the device capability is 17,974 cyls I
am getting back X'FFF0' or 65,520, Since he is in touch with IBM I would
suggest you contact him
Thanks
Joe Reichman
Joe Reichman
IT Specialist
Master Files Division
New Carrollton Federal Building, B7-182
I wonder if someone from IBM that's monitoring this list can help.
I thought if you had a licensed copy of z/OS and CICS you could use the z/OS
explorer and the CICS explorer. After using the installation manager to install
the products it seems to indicate that you have a trial period and then
Well, yes, but we should get the book right. So do you mind telling me
what the actual volume size is, just to confirm?
Reichman Joseph wrote:
It is the first half word of each has to be
Joe Reichman
Joe Reichman
IT Specialist
Master Files Division
New Carrollton Federal Building, B7-182
It is the first half word of each has to be
Joe Reichman
Joe Reichman
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Home office (240) 863 - 3965
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One more thing - The license from IBM, at least ours, prevents a program
running on a ZIIP from executing, or causing to be executed, user code on the
z/IIP.
Chris Blaicher
Technical Architect
Mainframe Development
Syncsort Incorporated
50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677
P:
I think I understand your confusion. I'm not sure why you're using the
z/OS V1.10 level of the book. But in any event, the current (V2.2)
level of the book says this returns, for INFO=DASD:
Returns 16 bytes as follows:
Bytes 0-3 - Number of cylinders on the device, excluding alternates.
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/dgt3s310.pdf
z/OS 2.2 version, layout on page 281 (302 of 532).
Looks like significant changes with z/OS 1.10 for CYL>64K.
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 12:58 PM, Reichman Joseph
wrote:
> 7.2.15 Marked DEVTYPE- info form from
> On Jul 21, 2016, at 12:25 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht
> wrote:
>
> Tim Hare wrote:
>
>> Because of scheduling dumbness (another story) they have several gaps in
>> their batch window where nothing runs, giving some leeway for jobs to
>> increase their elapsed
Indeed there are many ways to skin a cat.
With ISPF edit there are many ways to insert clist commands to imbed them into
the list almost automatically.
IOW there is no best way to do this.
Use your imagination and have a got at it.
Ed
7.2.15 Marked DEVTYPE- info form from DFSMSdfp "Advanced Services" z/os
V1R10.0
Joe Reichman
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On 7/21/2016 10:07 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Ed Jaffe wrote:
They probably don't want to call E15/E35 exits in SRB mode, ...
Excellent catch! Running an exit while sitting on zIIP is an interesting
scenario. H, very very interesting, what will happens when you try out that
little
Tim Hare wrote:
>Because of scheduling dumbness (another story) they have several gaps in their
>batch window where nothing runs, giving some leeway for jobs to increase their
>elapsed time - not the usual thing you want to do, but bear with us.
What are the other STCs doing? Were they also
> Yes, from the display one would assume TRT is active for SVC dumps.
> However, viewing the flags withing the dump does *not* show TRT as
> part of the options selected. This is what lets me think that
> StarTool DA is specifying its own SDATA options when requesting the
dump.
If they
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>I'm going to submit huge command list in a batch (IKJEFT01). The commands are
>unrelated (no loops, etc.) however I want to stop the script after command
>failure, that means RC<>0.
>Example:
>RDEF class PROFILE1.** ...
>RDEF class PROFILE2.** ...
>RDEF class
Ed Jaffe wrote:
>They probably don't want to call E15/E35 exits in SRB mode, ...
Excellent catch! Running an exit while sitting on zIIP is an interesting
scenario. H, very very interesting, what will happens when you try out that
little trick?
And if you're sitting in a micro code while
>> Does anyone know how I can change that? System DUMP options for
>> SYSABEND, SYSMDUMP, and SDUMP have the SDATA(...TRT...). Only
>> SYSUDUMP has Just SDATA=(SUM), but that should not apply in our case.
>
>What is displayed by the D D,O command on your system?
The above paragraph is a
>Would it be worth investigating setting a resource group limit for the batch
>service class(es) to hold the total 4HRA down as a cost-saving measure, or are
>resource group limits going to cause more trouble than they are worth?
At month ends, we were hitting the Group Capacity Limits
The BDW / RDW length field for V files is a 4 byte length field with
the first 2 bytes binary length.
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht
wrote:
> Reichman Joseph wrote:
>
>>The doc says bytes 0 - 3 is cylinders bytes 0 -3 is FFF0 and bytes 4
Reichman Joseph wrote:
>The doc says bytes 0 - 3 is cylinders bytes 0 -3 is FFF0 and bytes 4 - 7
>000FF000 is tracks per cyl ? am I misreading misunderstanding the
>documentation
What docs? Could you be kind to give us the URL of that source of above info
and docs?
> I was looking
> We're using both SmartRestart as well as StarTool DA. As far as I
> understand, SmartRestart asks StarTool DA , The former recognizes
> the ABEND (0C4 in this case) and it recognizes that StarTool DA is
> also present. Since there is a //SYSUDUMP DD card in the jobstep, it
> sks StarTool to
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 09:00:52 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
>I would think putting your commands in a DATASET, then using REXX to execute
>them one at a time and check the return code would work.
>
With Rexx I'd use SIGNAL ON NOVALUE and wrap the few commands for
which RC<>0 with call to a
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Hardee, Chuck <
chuck.har...@thermofisher.com> wrote:
> No, my requirement is batch.
> The service executing in its own address space that I need to access
> issues an EXCLUSIVE ENQ for a determinable QName/RName when it is up and
> ready to receive requests. I
Yes, I found nothing in the Unix, LE or C/C++ services that perform an ENQ of
any kind, be it for control or for testing availability.
I agree, the only real reason someone other than myself would need to do
anything to the code is to reassemble it if the ENQ macro were to change. Since
it
No, my requirement is batch.
The service executing in its own address space that I need to access issues an
EXCLUSIVE ENQ for a determinable QName/RName when it is up and ready to receive
requests. I need to know if it is up and ready to receive before issuing any
requests to it.
This is all
I would think putting your commands in a DATASET, then using REXX to execute
them one at a time and check the return code would work.
If it is required to do it with a CLIST then the same logic would work.
Lizette
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There's nothing native in COBOL to do an what you want, and I'm not aware of
anything in LE as a callable service.
Hybrid. Documentation. Probably the most they'll need is how to reassemble it.
Unless a macro changes, why else would they ever need to touch it?
RCTLACS contains the current running average for the LPAR.
Assuming a single LAPR, it is possible to monitor and adjust the cap by
changing the WLM policy (V WLM,policyname).
This requires at least 2 policies. 1 with no caps and 1 without caps. You may
need another with tighter caps in order to
On 7/20/2016 11:25 PM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
To my knowledge, no. zIIP exploitation sometimes makes technical sense, and
sometimes it doesn't. Even within the same general product category.
Subject to periodic review as technologies change and evolve.
Assuming they're constrained by the same
I don't know if you are running in a CICS environment but CICS has an EXEC
CICS ENQ service. Perhaps you can invoke it (non-blocking) to figure out
if the resource is held? Admittedly not the most straightforward
approach...
The doc says bytes 0 - 3 is cylinders bytes 0 -3 is FFF0 and bytes 4 - 7
000FF000 is tracks per cyl ? am I misreading misunderstanding the documentation
Joe Reichman
Joe Reichman
IT Specialist
Master Files Division
New Carrollton Federal Building, B7-182
OS:CTO:AD:CP:I:IB
Flex M,T,Th,F
> FFF0 000FF000 0100 0800
x'FFF0' would be 65520 cylinders. x'000F' would be 15 tracks per
cylinder. Reasonable for a 3390-54.
On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Reichman Joseph
wrote:
> Hi
>
> I was looking for the capability on a dasd device
>
>
> DEVTYPE
Tom,
Excellent. Thanks. It seems to be documented kind of inside-out. :)
In article <2692326115030948.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu> you
wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 18:20:19 -0400, Don Poitras wrote:
> >I needed to know what bit represents a BAKR
> >call vs. a PC. This is all I
We're using both SmartRestart as well as StarTool DA. As far as I understand,
SmartRestart asks StarTool DA , The former recognizes the ABEND (0C4 in this
case) and it recognizes that StarTool DA is also present. Since there is a
//SYSUDUMP DD card in the jobstep, it sks StarTool to schedule an
I would like to add one other advantage that I took advantage of. When you
define your hipersocket network, you can define a very large MTU size for the
hipersocket network. This can eliminate a lot of segmentation/re-assembly
overhead because the data transmission is broken up into fewer
On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 18:20:19 -0400, Don Poitras wrote:
>I needed to know what bit represents a BAKR
>call vs. a PC. This is all I could find:
>
>---
>Bytes 288-295 contain the entry
>descriptor. EXTRACT STACKED STATE sets the
>condition code to indicate whether the entry-type
>code in the entry
There's a system where their 4-hour rolling average maximum is always during
their batch window, when they routinely reach their defined capacity limit,
which in turn affects what they pay in a chargeback system.
Because of scheduling dumbness (another story) they have several gaps in their
Also if you were to create a CLIST for this as suggested previously,
rather than adding lots of IFs or WHENs, you should just be able to
specify CONTROL FLUSH once at the beginning of the CLIST.
Mick.
On 21 July 2016 at 14:24, Norbert Friemel wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Jul 2016
Hi
I was looking for the capability on a dasd device
DEVTYPE (R6),(AREA,L'AREA),INFOLIST=ILIST2
ILIST2 DEVTYPE INFO=DASD
AREA DSXL16
This was the data returned in area R15 = 0
FFF0 000FF000 0100 0800
DASD Returns 16 bytes as follows:
Bytes 0-3 Number of cylinders
On 7/20/2016 10:45 PM, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
I'm longing for the day when also the zIIPs disappear again and IBM
has found a better way to charge software license fees.
I agree it would be GREAT(!) if kneecapping of CPs was removed and
replaced with PER CORE software charging like other
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:36:30 +0200, R.S. wrote:
> I'm going to submit huge command list in a batch (IKJEFT01). The
> commands are unrelated (no loops, etc.) however I want to stop the
> script after command failure, that means RC<>0.
>
> Example:
> //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
> //SYSTSPRT DD
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:36:30 +0200, R.S. wrote:
>I'm going to submit huge command list in a batch (IKJEFT01). The
>commands are unrelated (no loops, etc.) however I want to stop the
>script after command failure, that means RC<>0.
>
>Example:
>//STEP1 EXEC
Radoslaw,
I would put the commands into a CLIST (or REXX) and add IF logic to check the
return code from each command and EXIT when it's not an acceptable value.
Chuck
Charles (Chuck) Hardee
Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration
EAS Information Technology
Thermo Fisher Scientific
I'm going to submit huge command list in a batch (IKJEFT01). The
commands are unrelated (no loops, etc.) however I want to stop the
script after command failure, that means RC<>0.
Example:
//STEP1 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN DD *,DLM=@@
/* command list */
RDEF
Hi all,
Any shop apply the CMP, anything we need to aware before apply CMP, thank
for sharing
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Paul Gilmartin wrote:
I find it hard to believe that optimization of revenue was not a
consideration.
To my knowledge, no. zIIP exploitation sometimes makes technical sense, and
sometimes it doesn't. Even within the same general product
Gibney, Dave wrote:
>There are unfortunately more than several copies of this module lying around
>here. Someone zapped CSECT NATRUN3
>The unzapped version works under z/OS 2.1. The zapped version does work under
>z/OS 1.13, but I have no idea what the environmental change is.
This is not
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>I find it hard to believe that optimization of revenue was not a
consideration.
To my knowledge, no. zIIP exploitation sometimes makes technical sense, and
sometimes it doesn't. Even within the same general product category.
Subject to periodic review as technologies change
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