UK: Annual GSE Conference Call for papers

2018-05-02 Thread Mark Wilson
Hi, The call for papers for this year’s GSE UK conference has been issued and can be seen here: http://conferences.gse.org.uk/2018/call General conference information can also be seen here: http://conferences.gse.org.uk/2018 Mark GSE UK Conference Manager www.gse.org.uk/tyc Email:

Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-02 Thread Jim Mulder
It is TCB mode only. Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie NY Charles Mills wrote on 05/02/2018 06:28:35 PM: > From: Charles Mills > To: ibm-main@listserv.ua.edu > Date: 05/02/2018 11:28 PM > Subject: Re:

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: HLQ change of SMP/E files

2018-05-02 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Hi Chris, Is it not possible to move the existing datasets into their new names (rename), and do the required UCL work. – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of CM Poncelet Sent: Thursday

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: HLQ change of SMP/E files

2018-05-02 Thread CM Poncelet
There is more to it than that if you are cloning (copying) a CSI into another CSI. E.g.     "ZONEEXPORT, UCLIN, ZONEDELETE, DEL/ADD/REP ZONEINDEX GZONE/DZONE/TZONE," "ENDUCL, ZONEIMPORT ... RELATED() etc. and then" "DEL/REP/ADD DDDEF() DA() SHR to point at" "the DDDEF 'WHYNOT' DSNs in the

Re: OA53355 - USERKEY COMMON MIGRATION SUPPORT

2018-05-02 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 25/04/2018 4:46 AM, Jousma, David wrote: So, has anyone written a SAS/MXG program to read through these SMF30 records yet, that they would care to share? I have added a program to the EasySMF Java samples to do this. In Java it looks like this: import java.io.*; import

Re: RECFM=VBS,LRECL=X

2018-05-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 May 2018 23:27:55 +0100, David W Noon wrote: >>> >> Suppose there is no guarantee that every logical record fit in available >> virtual memory? >> >How do you process such a logical record in a finite address space? The >only way I can think of is to segment the record and process it

Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-02 Thread Charles Mills
I agree. Some of the exits are documented as TCB only; some as SRB or TCB. Some are documented as Primary; some as Primary or AR. There is no generic statement "if not specified otherwise, TCB and Primary." I suspect all of the pre-whenever-ARs-came-along are Primary only. It would be nice to

Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-02 Thread Dan D
I agree with Rob, it's likely TCB mode but this looks like IBM need a DOC update. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: RECFM=VBS,LRECL=X

2018-05-02 Thread David W Noon
On Wed, 2 May 2018 16:43:02 -0500, Paul Gilmartin (000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu) wrote about "Re: RECFM=VBS,LRECL=X" (in <1556897214786710.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>): > On Wed, 2 May 2018 22:30:00 +0100, David W Noon wrote: [snip] >> If you are using QSAM, the

Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-02 Thread Charles Mills
CNZ_WTOMDBEXIT Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dan D Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 3:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB) Which IBM exit is this

Re: DFSMSdss Release command

2018-05-02 Thread Dan D
Here's the DSS statements we use to COMPRESS & RELEASE ... COMPRESS DDNAME(DISK1) BY(REFDT GT *,-7) - INCLUDE(**)- EXCLUDE(- LEAVE.ME.ALONE.**,- )

Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-02 Thread Dan D
Which IBM exit is this Charles? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: RECFM=VBS,LRECL=X

2018-05-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 May 2018 22:30:00 +0100, David W Noon wrote: >> ... >> I don't recall whether Rexx reassembles spanned records or whether I >> needed to override with RECFM(U) and process the streams myself. > >If you are using QSAM, the access method should do it. With RECFM=VBS >you are required to

Re: RECFM=VBS,LRECL=X

2018-05-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 May 2018 15:27:25 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: >> >> RECFM=VBS,LRECL=X would seem natural for processing UNIX files. >> >> Not sure exactly what you mean by "processing". Do you mean as a format >for making a copy of a Unix line-oriented file with a possibly very large >line length? > Yes.

Re: RECFM=VBS,LRECL=X

2018-05-02 Thread David W Noon
On Wed, 2 May 2018 14:39:57 -0500, Paul Gilmartin (000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu) wrote about "Re: RECFM=VBS,LRECL=X" (in <7993773034062407.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>): > On Wed, 2 May 2018 13:23:21 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: > >> Does anyone use this with your z/OS

Re: RECFM=VBS,LRECL=X

2018-05-02 Thread Kirk Wolf
> > > RECFM=VBS,LRECL=X would seem natural for processing UNIX files. > > Not sure exactly what you mean by "processing". Do you mean as a format for making a copy of a Unix line-oriented file with a possibly very large line length?

Re: RECFM=VBS,LRECL=X

2018-05-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 May 2018 13:23:21 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: >Does anyone use this with your z/OS data sets? > I've experimented with it. I was semi-pleased to discover that while BPXWYN rejects LRECL(X) as a syntax error it accepts LRECL(32768) instead. I don't recall whether Rexx reassembles spanned

Re: AC(1)

2018-05-02 Thread John Gateley
Peter, The CBT program uses code from Mark Zelden's IPLINFO to get a list of APF libraries (he is credited). In assembler this is L R1,16 point to CVT L R1,140(,R1) point to CVTECVT L R1,228(,R1) point to CSV

Re: PDSE MAXGENS API

2018-05-02 Thread Cieri, Anthony
It is not an API, but this is something that was discussed here previously.. /* Rexx */ CVT = C2d(Storage(10,4)) CVTDFA = C2d(Storage(D2x(CVT +

Re: RECFM=VBS,LRECL=X

2018-05-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
I use to with SMF datasets, now I just let IFASMFDP figure it out with SMS. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Kirk Wolf > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 11:23 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject:

RECFM=VBS,LRECL=X

2018-05-02 Thread Kirk Wolf
Does anyone use this with your z/OS data sets? Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message:

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: HLQ change of SMP/E files

2018-05-02 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Hi Kurt, Thanks for this; the product is in its own target and dlip zones, product has its own CSI. So the ZONEINDEX is for consideration only when TGT and DLIB have their own zones, or even if they're all in a single product CSI? PS: Big fan of getting replies from various IBM development

Re: AC(1)

2018-05-02 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/2/2018 9:29 AM, Seymour J Metz wrote: I suppose that "No, you told me that YOU BELIEVED all libraries are authorized!" is not politically correct. I would simply state that abend047 proves the job step is not authorized. Therefore, we must investigate every avenue to find out why...

Re: How Programming Affects Your Brain: 3 Big Truths According to Science

2018-05-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
Also seems unaware of the difference between coding and programming. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Gabe Goldberg Sent: Tuesday,

Re: How Programming Affects Your Brain: 3 Big Truths According to Science

2018-05-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
SNOBOL and ALGOL were good languages for their day. How about FORTRANSIT, GATE and IPL-V? Or take the Eunix shell - please! -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on

Re: AC(1)

2018-05-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
I suppose that "No, you told me that YOU BELIEVED all libraries are authorized!" is not politically correct. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IEFA107I when pointing to dataset alias

2018-05-02 Thread Seymour J Metz
>True, but the APF list entries include the volume serial on which the data > set resides, or they specify "SMS". In either case, the catalog entries are > not needed at IPL time, so APF listed data sets can be cataloged in a > user catalog. How do you build the DEB for the link list when

Re: Any challenges with setting CSCBLOC to ABOVE

2018-05-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Thanks, I am not sure how I would check that out, but I will see what I can do. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Anthony Thompson > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 8:36 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject:

Re: How Programming Affects Your Brain: 3 Big Truths According to Science

2018-05-02 Thread Kirk Wolf
I don't give this article and the MRI study on which it is based much credence. Dijkstra was a great computer scientist, but I doubt that his iconic quotes here are based on real data. His comments on COBOL and Basic might have been influenced by his work on Algol, which he of course (as do I)

Re: How Programming Affects Your Brain: 3 Big Truths According to Science

2018-05-02 Thread Tomasz Rola
On Tue, May 01, 2018 at 12:40:09PM -0600, Jack J. Woehr wrote: > On 5/1/2018 11:55 AM, Gabe Goldberg wrote: > >Funny, didn't mention effects on brain of learning APL or assembler. > > > Or FORTH or m4 I am yet to see the article, but have they mentioned LISP in any of its incarnations? --

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IEFA107I when pointing to dataset alias

2018-05-02 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 2 May 2018 08:14:43 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: >Well, you can't (to the best of my knowledge) use things depending on >user catalogs at the time that the IPL LPA or Linklst are built. And the >name in the APF list has to be the real name on the volume. True, but the APF list entries

Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-02 Thread Charles Mills
The exit vendor is of course IBM. Unless you mean me. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 2:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Installation Exit routine

Makes Java on z/OS seem simple.

2018-05-02 Thread John McKown
https://xkcd.com/1987/ -- We all have skeletons in our closet. Mine are so old, they have osteoporosis. Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: HLQ change of SMP/E files

2018-05-02 Thread Carmen Vitullo
feels like a friday :( sorry I intended to respond to this POST : z/OS 1.13 maintenance concern.May 2, 2018 7:56 AM Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Carmen Vitullo" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, May 2,

Re: z/OS 1.13 maintenance concern.

2018-05-02 Thread John Eells
Steve Cross wrote: I have inherited a z/OS 1.13 system that has not had any maintenance applied since mid-2015 and I need to bring it up to date before upgrading to 2.2 (ordered ready for installation). All but one of the required toleration/fall-back ptfs have been applied. Is it safe just

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: HLQ change of SMP/E files

2018-05-02 Thread Carmen Vitullo
In a case like this I'd like to use the fixcat's like FIXCAT(IBM.Coexistence.z/OS.V2R1 FIXCAT + (IBM.Coexistence.z/OS.V2R2) that are available now, it may produce a lot of required PTF's but SHOPZ + fixcats for required service for 2.1 and 2.2 ? or choose the upgrade option in the PSP buckets

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: HLQ change of SMP/E files

2018-05-02 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 5/1/2018 9:53 AM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: Ooh... almost forgot the other question - is there a way to test run this, equivalent of ADRDSSU's TYPRUN=NORUN? No, no CHECK operand on ZONEEDIT. Frankly its a pretty safe operation, but if you're concerned then make a copy of your CSI

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IEFA107I when pointing to dataset alias

2018-05-02 Thread John Eells
Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: Hi Dave, I wouldn’t dare change the structuring at this point without fully understanding why it is the way it is; which may very well be because of something that happened twenty years ago. For testing stuff like this, ZONECOPY can be your friend. Make a

Re: IEFA107I when pointing to dataset alias

2018-05-02 Thread John Eells
John Eells wrote: Previously, I wrote: (* Let's leave SYMBOLICRELATE out of it for now, until we all understand the basics. Likewise, we can work our way up to what happens before Catalog processes aliases and PATHENTRY entries for VSAM data seats, if necessary.) So now, let's look at what

Re: z/OS 1.13 maintenance concern.

2018-05-02 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 5/1/2018 9:22 AM, Steve Cross wrote: I have inherited a z/OS 1.13 system that has not had any maintenance applied since mid-2015 and I need to bring it up to date before upgrading to 2.2 (ordered ready for installation). All but one of the required toleration/fall-back ptfs have been applied.

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: HLQ change of SMP/E files

2018-05-02 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 5/1/2018 9:51 AM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: So will a ZONEEDIT be all, or are there other things to be mindful of? ZONEEDIT is all you need to update the data set names in the DDDEF entries for the target and dlib data sets. However, is this product installed in its own target

Re: AC(1)

2018-05-02 Thread Peter Relson
Does the CBT Tape program mentioned take into account all of Data set name (surely it does) Volume (very likely) whether the data set is SMS-managed or not ? Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: PDSE MAXGENS API

2018-05-02 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
The ISPF command/service DSINFO will return the current maxgen for the requested dataset so if you're operating under ISPF you can check the zdsngen variable after using dsinfo. Not ideal but it's something. -- Lionel B.

Re: PDSE MAXGENS API

2018-05-02 Thread Nick Jones
Hi Gord, Thanks for the heads-up on FAMS. Yes, I think this is going to hurt! Nick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: PDSE MAXGENS API

2018-05-02 Thread Nick Jones
Thanks for the confirmation, Steve. I did consider the possible hacks you mentioned but unfortunately, neither the IEBPDSE utility nor TSO/E LISTDS (nor indeed the TSO/E REXX function, LISTDSI) have been updated to output the MAXGENS value of a PDSE V2 library. Even if these facilities get

Re: Installation Exit routine environment (TCB vs. SRB)

2018-05-02 Thread Rob Scott
Although TCB mode is very likely, I would double-check with the software exit vendor. I would not want to assume anything when writing system software exits, especially as most of them are entered in supervisor state and PSW key 0-7. Rob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: DFSMSdss Release command

2018-05-02 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Hi Ed, The DSORG is PS for these datasets. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Gould Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DFSMSdss Release command > On May 1, 2018,

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IEFA107I when pointing to dataset alias

2018-05-02 Thread Gibney, Dave
Well, you can't (to the best of my knowledge) use things depending on user catalogs at the time that the IPL LPA or Linklst are built. And the name in the APF list has to be the real name on the volume. I don't know the effect of STEPLIBing a job or STC via an non-VSAM alias to a dataset that

Re: How Programming Affects Your Brain: 3 Big Truths According to Science

2018-05-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Steve Smith wrote: >> This one's almost certain to cause brain damage: Malbolge >> Malbolge was specifically designed to be almost impossible to use, via a counter-intuitive 'crazy operation', base-three arithmetic, and self-altering code. I don't

Re: DFSMSdss Release command

2018-05-02 Thread Edward Gould
> On May 2, 2018, at 2:06 AM, Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM > wrote: > > Ed, > > From the FM: "DFSMSdss does not release any space for data sets that are > empty (the last used block pointer in the data set's VTOC entry is zero)." > DMS still exists and is called

Re: DFSMSdss Release command

2018-05-02 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
Ed, >From the FM: "DFSMSdss does not release any space for data sets that are empty >(the last used block pointer in the data set's VTOC entry is zero)." DMS still exists and is called CA-DISK for the last 25 years, since Sterling and Sam sold it to that company for 8 million dollars (I wish I

Re: DFSMSdss Release command

2018-05-02 Thread Edward Gould
> On May 1, 2018, at 6:35 AM, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: > > -- > - Enter "/" to select actionTracks %Used XT > -- >