I haven't had it enough to develop a strong preference, although I found the
homemade Slivowitz at DGS to be too sweet for my taste. In fact, before that I
had never heard of sweet Slivowitz.
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Hi Slivovitz drinkers,
Which brand do you prefer?
Regards,
David
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It may not be echt, but I like my Slivowitz well iced.
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It may not be echt, but I like my Slivowitz well iced.
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Old Peculier for a Yorkshireman :)
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 10:26 AM Seymour J Metz wrote:
> I would like a virtual Slivowitz; please don't refrigerate.
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I would like a virtual Slivowitz; please don't refrigerate.
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Maybe we should all have a six-pack in the fridge that we're not allowed
to touch until someone offers one.
On 5/21/2020 4:44 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
Sam Virtual Adams.
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Yep, and different OUTCLASS's. So either the doc. is wrong (or misread) or
something stepped in and changed the disposition. Either way, it's ALL still
on the spool until all the out groups are purged (not considering the effects
of SPIN).
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Sam Virtual Adams.
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Charles Mills
It did not but now it does and it works!
Gosh, got it right on the first try. Guessed at the changes to make to the
below and seem to have gotten them all right on the first try.
I owe you all a virtual beer in Boston.
Charles
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It's all there in ST:
DDNAME StepName ProcStep DSID OwnerC Dest Rec-Cnt
JESJCLIN 1 K 2
JESMSGLG JES2 2 K LOCAL6
JESJCL JES2 3 K LOCAL
Ah, I was looking at a mushed-up email, and it was hard to see all of it. And
yeah, the Init and Tuning reference seems to say what you suggest. All I know
is when it doesn't show up in the output or held queue when you expect it to,
some part of the output was not purged, so you can see it
Doesn't this take precedence:
JOBCLASS(STC) TIME=(1440,00), /* Job Step Time ...ss... WS*/
COMMAND=EXECUTE,/* Execute Commands ..r.. WS*/
BLP=NO, /* Ignore BLP parm ...l. WS*/
AUTH=ALL, /* Allow all Cmds
Does anyone have z/OSMF active using TSS (Top Secret) ? I have been using the
"Convert z/OS 2.3 member IZUSEC from RACF to TSS commands".
z/OSMF still has problems activating - I would like to see how other sites have
setup the ID's IBM requires.
My main concern is IZUADMIN. The
He was sending that one SYSOUT to class H; the output class for JOBCLASS(STC)
was K. I'm sure K wasn't set to PURGE. And the output doesn't really go away
until it ALL goes away.
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I don't understand how it is still there for ST to find. shouldn't JES2 have
purged it due to the OUTDISP=(PURGE,HOLD)?
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We found higher CPU was generally down to the new version of LE routines.
COBOL itself was not found to be an issue CPU-wise, although there was only
limited comparative testing done.
On Thu, 21 May 2020 at 13:48, Pommier, Rex wrote:
> OPT(0) burns that much more CPU? Is this on all compiles
Thanks all!
- Yes, SDSF ST finds it. Why is it visible in ST but not in H or O?
- Problem is the lack of a userid. I will get that fixed up.
Back here if I hit something else I cannot solve.
Charles
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Bingo Allan.
If I have a jobcard, I'll use MSGCLASS=X and in the SYSOUT SYSOUT=*
Same JCL in an STC and SYSOUT=* does indeed disappear goes to a different
(disappearing class)
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 6:11 AM Allan Staller wrote:
> S STCNAME...MSGCLASS=(held sysout class).
>
> I.e.
S STCNAME...MSGCLASS=(held sysout class).
I.e. ODISP=(keep,keep)
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I don't know whether he is doing anyhing that requires authorization. What I do
know is that he won't see his output unless he changes or overrides his OUTDISP.
OTOH, it's certainly cleaner to assign an appropriate userid to every started
task.
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Charles did your setup include something like this?
RDEFINE STARTED MYSTC.* OWNER(SYS1) AUDIT(FAILURES(READ)) UACC(NONE)
PERMIT MYSTC.* CLASS(STARTED) GENERIC ID(WAYNE) ACCESS(ALTER)
RALTER STARTED MYSTC.* STDATA(USER(STCOPER) GROUP(GROUPZ))
SETROPTS REFRESH RACLIST(STARTED)
On Fri, May 22,
Two things, no definition for the STC in RACF.
If I have difficulty diagnosing STC problems, I run them as a job in JCL to
capture error messages.
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 5:14 AM Seymour J Metz wrote:
> He posted messages showing that the STC ran normally. His primary problem
> is OUTDISP;
He posted messages showing that the STC ran normally. His primary problem is
OUTDISP; once he fixes that we can see whether the userid is causing other
problems.
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Check the JES2 INIT Deck for the STCCLAS and see what it has for DISP.
Next, if there is a SYSOUT Repository ($avers for example) maybe all output
from the STC will be in there
If you have a JCL Scan utility (Like JCLPLUS) then scan the JCS
All else, slap a job card on it with TYPRUN=SCAN and
Thanks all. Sounds like good plan to me.
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On Thursday, May 21, 2020 2:55 PM, Chuck Kreiter
wrote:
> I used
I used to manage 4 monoplexes on the same CEC. That's how I did my updates.
Activate on one monoplex and copy the IODF to the others and activate soft.
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Generally the job name is the name of the PROC you issued the start for. Have
you tried using the ST option of SDSF? Also, some errors get put on the bottom
of the queue. Also, did you look in the SYSLOG? You should see the start and
end messages
Chris Blaicher
Technical Architect
that's sounds reasonable, I can't honestly say yes, my IODF contains the
configuration for both the PROD CEC and the DR CEC, so I don't need to transfer
it, via export,import. but since I have a rescue system I can IPL on the DR
box, an IPL, then an activation works for me and both hw and sw
Try running the PROC in a batch job.
You do realize that without proper setup the STC is probably using a different
userid.
On Thu, 21 May 2020 09:11:10 -0700 Charles Mills wrote:
:>I have a program that runs successfully in a job. I just cloned the JCL
:>appropriately into a PROC. When I
I have a followup question on this topic. In addition to the 8 z/OS systems in
the sysplex, we have several standalone monoplex z/OS systems on the same CEC.
If I perform the HCD work in the sysplex, then transfer the IODF file to one of
the standalone systems, perform a software and hardware
Whoops! I didn't notice the OUTDISP. Yes, with (PURGE,HOLD) he will not see
output from a normal termination. He can override that with a JESDS on an
OUTPUT statement.
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the solution to the OPI using the default rather than what was specific has
been resolved...
apparently if you concatenate IEASYSxx members, and you want to ensure OPI=NO
you MUST specify
OPI=NO in the last member NIP is reads, I added OPI=NO to all three members I
specify and now get
Carmen also brought up a good point, you may be running with a started task
table ICHRIN03 instead of the STARTED class.
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The $HASP messages say that the started task did run and complete. Is your
userid authorized to view output from ICHRIN03?
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Yes, the may be a problem, because that means you're most likely
running with an undefined user which means RACF is most likely stopping the
task from running unless every dataset it is hitting has a UACC allowing
access. You need to define a security profile in the STARTED class with
depending on your defined started task table ( ICHRIN03) that could be an issue
and just purge immediately.
try SDSF ST with prefix set for myproc, just grasping
++ is the default no id assigned, IIRC
OUTDISP=(PURGE,HOLD), <- purge on a good completion I believe , then HOLD if
there's a
That looks like your original code, e.g., unnecessary address, call bpxwunix
'host ',ipaddr.i,out.
Teh first parameter should be 'host' ipaddr.i, the second parameter should be
omitted and the third parameter should be quoted, although unquoted will work
as long as you never assign a value to
All that is in SYSLOG is
S myproc,MSGCLASS=H
IRR813I NO PROFILE WAS FOUND IN THE STARTED CLASS FOR 446
myproc WITH JOBNAME myproc. RACF WILL USE ICHRIN03.
$HASP100 myproc ON STCINRDR
More precisely, when ADRDSSU, initializes a volume, it writes
IPL text whose only purpose is to load a 00F wait state. So if you
do not replace that with IPL text for another program, you get a 00F wait
state when you IPL that volume.
Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis, Design, Development, Test
Is your proc in the IEFJOBS or IEFPDSI concatenation? Does it have a JOB
statement? What messages did you get after the START? Is the MSGCLASS a purge
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Charles,
A couple things to check. Is there anything in the SYSLOG showing what
happened to the task?
Check your JES2PARM member of parmlib. In there, you should find a
JOBCLASS(STC) stanza. What does that show for LOG, MSGCLASS, MSGLEVEL,
OUTDISP and OUTPUT?
Rex
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I have a program that runs successfully in a job. I just cloned the JCL
appropriately into a PROC. When I issue a START for the PROC I get a started
message and an ended message but no clue as to why it failed. (It is
supposed to be long-running, so ending is a failure.) I don't think it is a
JCL
I figured this out myself. Something really stupid. I wasn't putting
'{}' at the end of the tar command. Jeez.
On 5/21/2020 8:47 AM, Michael Babcock wrote:
I have Rocket’s bash, git, findutils, xargs, vim, etc installed on my
z/OS 2.4 system and can't seem to make something work.
I have a
Does anyone have a simple document of the above that uses DFSORT's ICETOOL?
According to one coworker's effort, the first volser is in Column 9 for a
length of 6. Does that sound right?
I tried IEHIBALL on a browse of the extract file and quickly got confused with
seeing column mismatches.
We
turns out it was something silly/overlooked, missing comma ...
I had:
call bpxwunix 'host ' ipaddr.i,out.
should have been
call bpxwunix 'host ' ipaddr.i,,out.
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On Thu, 21 May 2020 07:45:59 -0500, J Ellis wrote:
>I have been using the link provided from the start. as noted in the link:
>stdin.0 must contain the number of lines that are to be redirected to the
>command. stdin.1, stdin.2, ... contain the lines.
>
Which link? The one I posted?:
yes, but the error that comments (00F) is because it cannot find the IPL text.
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I have Rocket’s bash, git, findutils, xargs, vim, etc installed on my
z/OS 2.4 system and can't seem to make something work.
I have a directory /u/xx35/test that contains directories with names
like 20200512, 20200513, 20200514, etc (year, month, day). These
directories have other
Your Welcome Bob, so glad I could help someone here :) I didn't start doing
storage, SMS till I left Boeing, lets see that was 1998 - wow
Carmen Vitullo
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OPT(0) burns that much more CPU? Is this on all compiles or many or just a few
of them? If compiles are that bad using OPT(0), what will an OPT(2) do? We're
just starting our install of 6.3, going from 4.2 and this sounds like something
we need to be aware of.
Thanks,
Rex
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I have been using the link provided from the start. as noted in the link:
stdin.0 must contain the number of lines that are to be redirected to the
command. stdin.1, stdin.2, ... contain the lines.
that is why on STDIN i coded the ipaddr.I, and that works.
I am just not getting anything back
I use the same LOAD member in SYS1.IPLPARM and use LPARNAME to set the correct
parameters ,
I use the IEASYM member to do the rest - just a snip of what I have, there's
more to it but it works well
all I do is shutdown and deactivate the LPAR's on one CEC and ACTIVATE and IPL
the DR images
> Multiple non-sysplexed systems can share SMS. Correct me if I'm wrong.
As long as the CATALOGs are shared for what you are trying to manage, yes.
BTDT, 20+ years ago.
Thanks to both of you, Skip, and Carmen for the confirmation of taking a copy
of a SCDS and matching ACDS from a sysplex
No, not exactly.
First, I meant "regular" sysplex. In that case it is possible and
recommended to have SMSplex=sysplex.
However it is also possible to have multiple SMSplexes within a sysplex,
and within GDPS.
And I mean SMSplex can be cross-plex - yes, it is possible. Multiple
non-sysplexed
hello have you put the IPL text in the volume .. ??
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We have the following situation when trying to activate and IPL 3
lpars from site A into site B.
Both sites are distant about 450 Km and the storage replication is made by
Global Metro Mirror.
The issue we have faced last weekend is related to match the IODF we have
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