Re: A question or two on zOS issues

2023-03-24 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On z-architecture, only machine instructions that change or set the TOD clock are privileged.  The STCK and STCKE instructions only provide read-only access to the TOD clock and are not privileged or restricted by hardware, but they are not taught in programming texts either. Most who are

Re: A question or two on zOS issues

2023-03-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 19:44:32 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >How do they accomplish that? > Privileged instruction, like I/O or LPSW or SCK. In fact, I'm not certain that the clock is protected, but the user interfaces such as time() and strftime()mare so useful *and*portable* that I've never been

Re: A question or two on zOS issues

2023-03-24 Thread Tom Marchant
How do they accomplish that? -- Tom Marchant On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 18:07:51 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >But most systems I use admirably do not allow non-privileged users to access >the hardware clock. -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: A question or two on zOS issues

2023-03-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 24 Mar 2023 16:39:59 -0500, Charles Mills wrote: > >I know I have used STCK and STCKF in my "vendor" code. I think it's all still >maintained, but not sure that every licensee is paying for maintenance. > We had one of those with a vendor product on CMS for which we had neglected

Re: A question or two on zOS issues

2023-03-24 Thread Charles Mills
What about vendor packages that are off maintenance, the vendor has gone out of business, were licensed for a OTC and have been forgotten about, etc.? Any CBT or similar packages? I know I have used STCK and STCKF in my "vendor" code. I think it's all still maintained, but not sure that every

Re: A question or two on zOS issues

2023-03-24 Thread Joel C. Ewing
I agree it would be a real rarity for any application code to have any STCK vs STCKE issues. It would even be rare for ANY installation-written code to work with TOD values, so much so that any cases would likely be well known to the Technical Support staff.  All application code I ever saw

Re: Unzip on z/OS ?

2023-03-24 Thread Rahim Azizarab
File #865 on Downloads at cbttape.org I used it many times. regards; Rahim       On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 03:37:43 PM CDT, Kirk Wolf wrote: FWIW, the low level zip API is available in the z/OS Java SDK (and all JDKs). JZOS includes sample classes that zips z/OS

Re: Unzip on z/OS ?

2023-03-24 Thread Kirk Wolf
FWIW, the low level zip API is available in the z/OS Java SDK (and all JDKs). JZOS includes sample classes that zips z/OS datasets. Writing an unzip wouldn't be too hard.

Re: Check my math?

2023-03-24 Thread Steve Thompson
I was not going to bring this up, but since you did, yes MVS allows, for example, DSN='JAN 2016 WK 4 PAYROLL' (limit is 44 chars) for either DISK or TAPE because, originally, sharing of volumes between DOS|DOS/VS|DOS/VSE and I think VSE-ESA. Doing Connect:Direct I had to point this out as a

Re: Check my math?

2023-03-24 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 09:34:02 -0500, John McKown wrote: >I got curious about how many possible different values could exist in a >dataset "node". A node can be 1 to 8 characters long. The first character >must be A-Z @#$ or 29 characters. Subsequent characters are those 29 plus >digits 0-9 and a

Re: A question or two on zOS issues

2023-03-24 Thread Charles Mills
As a I guy who has been involved in SMF-based "auditing of stuff" off and on for the past ten years, I can tell you that "what programs are actually getting loaded?" comes up again and again, and I don't know of a solution. (Yes, what you describe should work, but be very wary of performance

Re: A question or two on zOS issues

2023-03-24 Thread Farley, Peter
With respect to the COBOL migration issue, we bit that bullet several years ago, starting with V5.2. Now we compile only with V6.2 except under special circumstances. We used the "two library" migration plan. As for "release and options compiled with", the CBT utility COBANALZ (CBT321) does

Re: NOTE POINT and DCBFDAD

2023-03-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
Do you have BLOCKTOKENSIZE=LARGE on the DCBE? Do you issue a CHECK before the NOTE? If you want, take this offline to my Radus e-mail address. Unfortunately to to IBM's OCO (יש"ו) policy, the logic manuals are not longer available; I'd stay away from using fields like DCBFDAD. TRKCALC doesn't

Re: A question or two on zOS issues

2023-03-24 Thread Steve Thompson
I know that in one large shop where I had been working, we had someone develop a tool to scan all the production libraries and tell us what the load module was based on (language), level if available, and when last compiled/assembled. This report was one that I used to report on the % of

Re: A question or two on zOS issues

2023-03-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
Currently, who is using TIME STCK and who is using TIME STCKE? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Steve Pryor [st...@dtssoftware.com] Sent: Friday, March

Re: NOTE POINT and DCBFDAD

2023-03-24 Thread Joseph Reichman
At the point all I can say its a 3390 the DCBFDAD is being updated the NOTE macro keeps on returning 1 I added blksize to the DCBE and CAPACITYMODE=XCAP Would you suggest I use devtyp and tracalc to get information to re-position the file using DCBFDAD > On Mar 24, 2023, at 12:59 PM, Seymour

A question or two on zOS issues

2023-03-24 Thread Steve Pryor
There are a couple of pressing issues in z/OS that I'm sure many folks are aware of but about which there doesn't seem to be much being done. I'm curious as to what other IBM-MAINer's thoughts might be. Specifically, I'm talking about: 1.) migration to IBM's latest COBOL release, and 2.) the

Re: NOTE POINT and DCBFDAD

2023-03-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
Check whether you have the right DCBE, etc., for a large volume. I would not recommend messing with DCBFDAD. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Joseph Reichman Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 11:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: NOTE POINT and DCBFDAD

2023-03-24 Thread Joseph Reichman
Not really familiar with this ( I guess I’ll research it ) but I just wanted To post this to say what I am trying to do The sysadata vb file has the source records type x’0030’ intermixed ( usually a x’0036’ comes after a x’0030’ ) unless the x’0030’ has a continuation then it maybe 2 or

Re: NOTE POINT and DCBFDAD

2023-03-24 Thread Mike Schwab
4096X more cylinders. On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 10:45 AM Mike Schwab wrote: > > Don't forget the EAV redefines the HH into ccch for 4k more cylinders. > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 10:40 AM Joseph Reichman > wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > For all those that asked why I was BSAM well. The data

Re: NOTE POINT and DCBFDAD

2023-03-24 Thread Mike Schwab
Don't forget the EAV redefines the HH into ccch for 4k more cylinders. On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 10:40 AM Joseph Reichman wrote: > > Hi > > > > For all those that asked why I was BSAM well. The data was not in the order > I wanted. > > > > My Plan was to find what I want and than move it to a

NOTE POINT and DCBFDAD

2023-03-24 Thread Joseph Reichman
Hi For all those that asked why I was BSAM well. The data was not in the order I wanted. My Plan was to find what I want and than move it to a dataspce When I found what I wanted I would mark it with a NOTE (I did have MACRF=RP) however NOTE always returned in R1 X'0100' no

Re: DITTO/ESA V1R3 User’s Guide, SH19-8221

2023-03-24 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>> DITTO/ESA V1R3 User’s Guide, SH19-8221 Does anyone have a .pdf copy of this >> document that could be emailed to me? Michael, You can search old IBM manuals from here https://www.ibm.com/resources/publications Searching for SH19-8221 will result in the following results DITTO/ESA V1R3

Re: IBM utility to print an arbitrary block/track on a volume

2023-03-24 Thread Farley, Peter
DITTO can certainly do it, but like all the other ways suggested you will require various special SAF permissions to actually perform the function. Not like the old days when anyone could display anything. <*Sigh*> Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On

Re: GitHub Update - Arg!

2023-03-24 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
The solution is in the blog but the easy thing (if you don't want to RTFB) is 1. issue: ssh-keygen -R github.com - this will remove github.com from your known_hosts file 2. then access github.com using ssh on the command line and reply yes to adding the host to your known_hosts file And you

Re: IBM utility to print an arbitrary block/track on a volume

2023-03-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
Okay, I always thought that it was the other way around, what with STARTIO not being a GUPI and the lack of documentation. For EXCP[VR] I just build the DCB and IOB, OPEN, modify the DEC et voila. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: GitHub Update - Arg!

2023-03-24 Thread Rick Troth
It's all about trust. SO glad you posted, and esp that you found the announcement. (A little concerned, though, that their primary web interface doesn't have an alert.) I would have panicked. Interesting that handling of this SSH key: #1 is manual effort for the clients, and #2 is *minimal*

Re: IBM utility to print an arbitrary block/track on a volume

2023-03-24 Thread Binyamin Dissen
STARTIO seemed easier than all the setup for the EXCP. On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 20:27:44 + Seymour J Metz wrote: :>You don't need STARTIO to read an arbitrary track, although you do need AC(1) and SAF rights. :> :> :>-- :>Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz :>http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 :>

Re: GitHub Update - Arg!

2023-03-24 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
I got bit this morning and ran across that. Not nice (imho). Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github: https://github.com/lbdyck “Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John

Re: GitHub Update - Arg!

2023-03-24 Thread René Jansen
Thanks Lionel, that was just in time! best regards, René. > On 24 Mar 2023, at 13:43, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > > GitHub changed their RSA SSH Host Key and now there are issues. Here is > their announcement: > > https://github.blog/2023-03-23-we-updated-our-rsa-ssh-host-key/ > > This is what

Re: GitHub Update - Arg!

2023-03-24 Thread Rick Troth
Never gotten that error with GitHub before, but gotten it many times for ordinary SSH connections where the host key has changed. The error message usually tells which line in your .ssh/known_hosts file has the previous fingerprint. Once the new key has been vetted, you can simply delete that

Re: z/OS v2.05 and v2.5

2023-03-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
Both are abbreviations of z/OS Version 2 Release 5, and the first is potentially ambiguous. IBM writes it without the zero. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
Do you know of a user error that can cause an ABEND S100 when the BSAM DCBE does not specify FIX=USER? Is FIX=USER forced for AC(1) users? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: how to find the assembly or link edit date of a load module

2023-03-24 Thread Seymour J Metz
A load module has the same format regardless of the language. The relevant dates are in the IDR data, which you can display with, e.g., AMBLIST, PDS, StarTool. It's not that difficult to read them yourself. Reading a program object, however, requires information that IBM charges for. --

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-24 Thread Joseph Reichman
That was my thinking exactly FIXED=USER on the DCBE fixed that problem but what about BSAM where everything is 24 bits don’t remember this issue On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 8:54 AM Peter Relson wrote: > And of course page-fixing a buffer cannot be an input requirement for any > service that

Re: Does BSAM I/O area have to be fixed storage

2023-03-24 Thread Peter Relson
And of course page-fixing a buffer cannot be an input requirement for any service that supports unauthorized callers because those callers do not have access to page-fix functionality (either by subpool choice or by the services that do it). Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design

GitHub Update - Arg!

2023-03-24 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
GitHub changed their RSA SSH Host Key and now there are issues. Here is their announcement: https://github.blog/2023-03-23-we-updated-our-rsa-ssh-host-key/ This is what you may see: @@@ @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @

Re: IBM utility to print an arbitrary block/track on a volume

2023-03-24 Thread Rick Troth
I was going to suggest Ditto. Coincidentally, Michael Watkins was just inquiring about the documentation for that product. -- R; <>< On 3/23/23 14:45, Binyamin Dissen wrote: Thanks. ADRDSSU is the way to go. On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 12:39:22 -0500 "Lionel B. Dyck" wrote: :>Try this :>

Re: how to find the assembly or link edit date of a load module

2023-03-24 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
You can also use the PDS Command (CBTTape File 182) e.g. PDS 'sys1.linklib' hi iefbr14 ** HISTORY IEFBR14 PDS060I TRANSLATOR HISTORY BY CSECT - IEFBR14 12/05/05 566896201 V02 M01

Re: z/OS v2.05 and v2.5

2023-03-24 Thread Mark Jacobs
Yes. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com --- Original Message --- On Friday, March 24th, 2023 at 4:37 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote: > stupid question

Re: how to find the assembly or link edit date of a load module

2023-03-24 Thread Mark Jacobs
Execute PGM=AMBLIST, LISTIDR command. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com --- Original Message --- On Friday, March 24th, 2023 at 5:56 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote: >

how to find the assembly or link edit date of a load module

2023-03-24 Thread Bill Giannelli
within an assembler load module, where might I find either the assembly or link/edit date of that load? thanks Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

z/OS v2.05 and v2.5

2023-03-24 Thread Bill Giannelli
stupid question #2,363.. Is z/OS v2.05 and v2.5 the same thing? thanks Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN