Neither the documentation of EXEC nor the documentation of IKJSCAN says
anything about that. I suspect that it's something specific to implicit EXEC.
Is anybody in a position to make a formal query to IBM?
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I said what I meant, and I meant what I said,
A sysprog is faithful, 100%
"Hortion hears an IPL", Dr. Seuss
It was a direct cut and past from the manual, and none of the hits for GRABBING
mentioned ddname.
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>
We have lots of multiple CU's on a channel,
Without a switch?
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Sent: W
That's the right answer to the wrong question. Yes, you can share a chpid
between LPARs without a switch, but you cannot share chpids between control
units without a switch.
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From: IBM Main
AFAIK the only FICON cascading is FICON switch cascading.
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Allan Staller [allan.stal...@hcl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 3
My guess is that when you define a chpid in LCSS 1 you automatically get a
chpid for the base exposure.
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Gord Neill
My guess is that it was never applicable and that GRBXBIMG was a bitmap file
meant to go into the manual.
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Scott Chapman
Idle speculation: it's the file name of s bit map meant to go into the manual
and the text was supposed to say SYSPROC.
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statement that the authors believed to be necessary to
run REXX in TSO, wouldn't they have explained what to code on it or at least
used it in sample JCL?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
1. That's the text that started this discussion. It doesn't explain why,
after what has already been written here, you believe it.
2. Quoting the text again doesn't answer the question "What does that mean?".
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htt
On S/360, column binary reads each column as two six-bit bytes and stores it as
two eight-bit bytes with high order 0, i,e.,
0-0-12_row-11_row-0_row-1_row-2_row-3_row
0-0-4_row-5_row-6_row-7_row-8_row-9_row
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I don't know of a Netview listserv, but even if there is one this is a
legitimate place to post Netview questions. You'll probably get more eyeballs
here than one a more specialized list.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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___
XECIO 5 DISKW ddname '(' STEM
instead of
EXECIO 5 DISKW ddname '( STEM'
in your code, you will not invoke the correct command.
Would be reasonable if they have to spell it out.
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in Chapter 2.
REXX general concepts, Commands to external environments. If they must issue
excess verbiage then they should get it right.
The verbiage he quoted is defective; they should drop or reword it.
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foo = value('BAR',,baz)
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org]
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 12:27 PM
To
A note about quoting constants might be appropriate if it reflected a correct
understanding of REXX. The quoted text should be fixed, made general and show
an example.
BTW, would you repeat essentially the same verbiage for, e.g., EXECUTIL?
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It's not enough that the writer wanted to aid human beings; the text has to
actually do so.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Charles Mills [
I'm pretty sure that the issue is operator precedence.
(SMOD (IND1) = 'B' OR 'R') means (SMOD (IND1) = 'B' OR SMOD (IND1) = 'R')
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From: IBM Mainframe
place for the actual rules.
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Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu]
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020
ither invalid or
evaluates to false.
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Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu]
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2
l has
a perfectly adequate description of how REXX evaluates expressions: refer the
reader to that. Don't invent rules that sometimes don't apply.
The root problem is that someone is writing code without understanding the
language.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
what the code is doing. There is no substitute for understanding and
*accurately* explaining the rules of the language, and that is by no means
limited to REXX.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
The frequency is irrelevant, although there is a huge amount of REXX code that
deals with the name of a variable. If you don't understand the language then
you will inevitably shoot yourself in the foot, and that applies to more than
REXX.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gm
SMOD (IND1) = 'B' OR 'R' means (SMOD (IND1) = 'B') OR (SMOD (IND1) = 'R');
syntax for implied comparands exists in other languages as well.
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From:
Perl chained compares reevaluate terms: foo < rand() bar can give unexpected
results.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Paul Gilmartin [000433f07
uilding.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Phil Smith III [li...@akphs.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 6:54 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: R
OTOH, REXX does not have an ENDIF, although SELECT does require an END.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ
https://www.cs.sjsu.edu/~mak/CS185C/KnuthStructuredProgrammingGoTo.pdf
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob
Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com]
Sent
BIT(1) and BINARY are two different things in PL/I. The coercion of bit strings
into FIXED BINARY looked good at the time, but I believe that it was a bad
decision, as your example shows. OTOH, it's even worse to treat numerical or
character data as boolean.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
Gil is correct. Sometimes you need to quote. Read the *full* description of
ADDRESS.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Phil Smith III [li...@akphs.com
value of one string expression. The arguments
are part of that value.
In general, the documentation should have a correct description followed by
some examples. The examples could include using a single string literal and
using a more complicated expression.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
out of line
PERFORM to be far more dangerous. I have a similar issue with REXX; it does not
have lexical scope, and you can fall into a procedure.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN
Ah, but SIGNAL does clean up resources., Not always the appropriate resources,
but resources.
do i=1 to 100
foo
SIGNAL bar
baz
bar: j=1
end
That's part of "it does not have lexical scope,"
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http:
There's no XOR mentioned there, confused or otherwise.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org]
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020
de in the future. It's a stylistic issue about which
you will never achieve consensus.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob
Bridges [robhbrid...
Well, if I were writing COBOL today I would eschew PERFORm foo THRU bar in
favor of more structured constructs.
You have a similar problem with assembler; code optimized for one model may run
poorly on another.
The NASPA magazine was Technical Support.
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http
Or DTL.
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Steve Thompson [ste...@copper.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 4:45 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re
Wrong again. As with any other expression, quotes are for string literals, not
variables, and it is legitimate to use variables either by themselves or as
part of a more complex expression, e.g., address value 'FOO'bar
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It didn't help that he contradicted himself as to whether GOTO should be banned.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Wayne Bickerdike [wayn...@gmai
Didn't Datamation introduce COMEFROM much earlier?
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Peter Sylvester [peter.sylves...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, J
In PL/I, yes, but not in REXX.
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Wayne Bickerdike [wayn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2020 12:59 AM
To: IBM-MAIN
I got a 404 clicking on one of the links, but
http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/_by_part_number_online_20191026.txt worked.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of
Richards, Robert B
p themselves and fill my heart with glee:
Take the damn JES2 change team and teach it SMP!
Mañana, mañana, mañana is soon enough for me.
It was not funny at the time.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
are running an average of four
mainframes with an average age of 17 years. Sixty-four percent are
running mainframes between 10 and 20 years old, with 28% running
machines that are 20 to 30 years old."
I don't find that plausible.
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Shmuel (Seymo
classify Prolog? RPG.?
Do you really want, e.g., Ada, ALGOL 68, APL, Erlang, FLOW-MATIC, FORMAC,
Forth, FORTRAN, Go, Haskell, Icon, LISP, PL/I, Prolog, RPG, Simula, SNOBOL, in
the same generation?
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Have they added array operations to Fortran?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob
Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 12:35 AM
To
Is that like the eternal ax (that handle has been changed 20 times and the
blade 30 times, but it's still the same ax)?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on beha
Time sharing systems with each user having his own CMS virtual machine goes
back a long way; at least to National CSS.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
What about gcc Fortran? Does that run on OMVS? Linux on Z?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Frank Swarbrick [frank.swarbr...@outlook.com]
Sent: Tuesday
How long has your company been using electricity? Time to modernize.
Yes, I know that you've replaced the wiring three times and have solar power on
your roof, but it's still the same obsolete electricity.
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Partially. Does Fortran now have reduction operators, e.g., inner product,
trace?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Frank Swarbrick [frank.swarbr
pernicious myth that it is self
documenting - no language is.
BTW, is there any shop still using CODASYL COBOL?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Mark
trace of a square matrix is the sum of the diagonal elements:
trace = 0;
do i=lbound(a) to hbound(a);
trace = trace + a(i,i);
end;
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM
Probably a combination of legal issues and lack of vision. Didn't the consent
decree kill the 80% discount?
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Tom
Br
Wouldn't that be VSCOBOL, well beyond CODASYL?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Mike Schwab [mike.a.sch...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 1:
Ah, but Knuth's Literate Programming isn't a self documenting language; it's a
means to integrate the documentation source with the code source and get well
formatted text out of it. You still need to write the documentation before web
can format it.
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> Add to that the open-source mindset that software SHOULD BY RIGHT be "free"
I wish. GMU is using proprietary e-mail software and no longer allows access
via POP3 or IMAP4.
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From:
My pet peeve is the default for SPACE; "Absolute track not available" is not a
user friendly error message for forgetting to specify SPACE.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Software development is not a zero sum game.
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Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 12:53 AM
I wish.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Bill Johnson [0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 10:43 AM
To: IBM
uel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Mike Cairns [m...@mikecairns.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 10:57 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: "Everyone
r customers win.
If IBM invests billions in open source software, I have no issue with them
earning it back selling services; in fact, I am glad of it. Whom does that harm?
"I won't bail; the hole is in your end of the boat."
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ays a raw error and
reason code, blame the application, not dynamic allocation.
Oh, well, those facilities have only been around for a few decades, so maybe
they're too new. :-(
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From: IBM
hard to justify. Are you sure that it wasn't
in the joblog?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Frank Swarbrick [frank.swarbr...@outlook.com]
Sent: Wedne
"Après moi le déluge."
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Bill Johnson [0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, June 10,
I was here and that sort of message was not acceptable then. They could at
least have written somethng like
DFS0929I BLDL ON DDNAME foo FAILED with RC=bar FOR MEMBER --DDMPPSZ
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From: IBM
ry; why do we still have 19th century error messages?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Steve Smith [sasd...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 4:02 PM
DAIRFAIL was available in the 1980s; I don't recall whether it was available in
the late 1970s, and bitsavers doesn't have the manuals I would need to check.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discu
BTW, would it hurt when the product assembly involves bolts and screws to
specify how much torque to apply?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Charles Mi
Any message whose action is given as "contact your systems programmer" is just
as bad. Has IBM finally gotten rid of all of those?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.
Well, in the TSO environment there's a service to build messages from
templates, plugging in variables. ISPF has similar services.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.ED
I would go for a shared GLOBAL and 3 TARGET/DLIB pairs. I would use REPORT
SYSMOD to help keep them in synch. Of course, often there are installation
standards in place as to maintenance methodology, and you can't change things
without getting the appropriate approval.
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.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Jousma, David [01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 12:17 PM
To: IBM-MAIN
I call that the "GTF effect"; the problem never manifests when I have
diagnostic measures in place to capture failure data.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> DBD or PSB library.
In a kinder, more gentle world, the message would tell you which.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Frank Swarbrick [frank.swa
There are several strategies. I'd advice you to use a symbol to select the
default DB2. The key, however, is that whatever approach you use you think
through and document all the issues.
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Compartmentalization. Presumably the DFSMSdfp people don't talk to the OMVS
people.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Paul Gilmartin [000433f
? GTF? Generalized Trace Facility?
Is there another GTF in z/OS?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ
Whether or not your methodology involves copying libraries or zones, you have
to be careful of everything. Every strategy has risks that you need to address.
There is no need to re-receive anything. You should, however, frequently
receive the HOLDATA.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http
and zFS
naming convention should be tied to the symbols set from the IPL volser.
Cloning the target volumes without cloning the target zone means that you can't
install service on it.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
From
customer that they
saw no sign of a problem.
In some cases the answer is timing. Certainly running GTF is going to introduce
some delays, and there are equivalent effects in other areas.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
From: IBM
Well, if they come from a world where there is no messages manual, it may not
occur to them to RTFM; that should be part of their initial training, but we
all know how generous education budgets are these days.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
> 4. Message description in the book is more than "Something is wrong.
Try again later".
That may be true now: I still recall with rage "The following messages are self
explanatory."
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__
Don't you still need a separate CSI for each SREL?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Bill Giannelli [billgianne...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 12,
Did he get his start as a Tech Writer for COBOL (E)?
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Herring, Bobby [bherr...@txfb-ins.com]
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020
s Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes")
W dniu 12.06.2020 o 12:59, Seymour J Metz pisze:
> Well, if they come from a world where there is no messages manual, it may not
> occur to them to RTFM; that should be part of their initial training, but we
> all know how generou
I've never understood why RFC 4960 Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP)
didn't catch on and get exploited by a new FTP protocol.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
registers."
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob
Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2020 5:36 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subjec
that.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of
Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020 12:54 PM
To: IBM-MAIN
it is in response to.
> I *like* Outlook.
It's not my dog. The people on the boards that you're complaining about don't,
and whining won't make them like it.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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Some places won't accept HTML in e-mail due to security issues.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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Jackson, Rob [rwjack...@firsthorizon.com]
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> I've always assumed that bottom-posters are just careless
I've alway assumed that bottom posters have defective software, or are just
careless. Although I miss the old BBS style: initials> instead of just >.
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More likes someone makes ten points in fifteen minutes and someone respond
without anyone knowing which point he's responding to.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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> their "so called" standard was for newsgroups, not email
RFC 2646, RFC 3676
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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Tony Thigpen [t...@vse2
> honorary rank of "Rear Admiral"
She was honorable, but her rank of rear admiral (lower half) was official.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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y, correct quoting, I
haven't found them. Then there's word- where is reveal mode?
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail
No, the point is that, e.g., RFC 3676, applies to e-mail:
The Text/Plain media type is the lowest common
denominator of Internet email,
The only mention of Usenet is in 4.3. Usenet Signature Convention.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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That doesn't exist for OWA (the office365 web client).
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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Gibney, Dave [gib...@wsu.edu]
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2020
et to the level of BookManager on an OS I use, I'd download or buy it in a
heartbeat.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
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Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail
the last few decades Internet players have
been in a race to the bottom.
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