Re: SFTP

2012-05-11 Thread Patrick Loftus
Sounds like your linux machine is the client, and connecting to your z/OS system running the IBM FTP server. To use SFTP client on Linux, and connect to your z/OS machine running the SSH daemon, yes, you'll need the SSHD task running. //SSHD PROC //SSHD

Re: SFTP

2012-05-11 Thread Kirk Wolf
There are detailed instructions in the IBM Ported Tools User's Guide for starting SSHD under a BPXBATCH started task. BTW: The example that you have given doesn't jive - it doesn't execute the shell script sshd.sh. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com PS If you want to use z/OS

Re: SFTP

2012-05-11 Thread McKown, John
The IBM supplied sftp server will __only__ transfer z/OS UNIX files! NOT legacy datasets. But, wait! There is a solution! Dovetailed Technologies offers a __FREE__ add on for SSH which allows sftp to read/write both legacy datasets and JES (submit jobs and retrieve job output). You can get this

Re: SFTP

2012-05-11 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:29:50 -0500, McKown, John wrote: But, wait! There is a solution! Dovetailed Technologies By jove, that fella must be on a good percentage of the sale price of that software ... ;-) Shane ... -- For

Re: SFTP

2012-05-11 Thread McKown, John
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 7:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SFTP On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:29:50 -0500, McKown, John wrote: But, wait! There is a solution! Dovetailed Technologies By jove, that fella must be on a good

Re: SFTP

2012-05-11 Thread David Crayford
On 11/05/2012 8:41 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 07:29:50 -0500, McKown, John wrote: But, wait! There is a solution! Dovetailed Technologies By jove, that fella must be on a good percentage of the sale price of that software ... ;-) You really are a cheeky monkey Shane!

Re: SFTP

2012-05-11 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Fri, 11 May 2012 21:20:34 +0800, David Crayford wrote: ... - but you can't knock *free* software on z/OS, especially when it's of the quality that Dovestail churn. Perish the thought. I don't believe I've ever disparaged Kirk or their software. Our only jousts have probably been the result

Re: SFTP

2012-05-11 Thread David Crayford
On 11/05/2012 9:41 PM, Shane Ginnane wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2012 21:20:34 +0800, David Crayford wrote: ... - but you can't knock *free* software on z/OS, especially when it's of the quality that Dovestail churn. Perish the thought. I don't believe I've ever disparaged Kirk or their software.

Re: SFTP

2012-05-11 Thread Rob Schramm
I have to agree with John. After going thru an exercise doing SFTP without Co:Z and realizing how much the BPXBATCH and scripting interface lacks... 100% recommend using Co:Z. Makes for a much less stressed sysprog. Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group On Fri, May 11, 2012 at

Re: SFTP

2012-05-11 Thread Mark Steely
] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 10:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SFTP I have to agree with John. After going thru an exercise doing SFTP without Co:Z and realizing how much the BPXBATCH and scripting interface lacks... 100% recommend using Co:Z. Makes for a much

Re: SFTP

2012-05-11 Thread McKown, John
: Re: SFTP Thanks for all the information - I already use Co:z. for SFTP's going from the MF to the Linux servers. I needed the information for the Linux accessing the MF and getting z/os datasets. Thank You -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: SFTP

2012-05-11 Thread Kirk Wolf
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Steely Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 10:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SFTP Thanks for all the information - I already use Co:z. for SFTP's going from the MF to the Linux servers. I needed the information for the Linux

Re: SFTP

2012-05-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 11 May 2012 21:20:34 +0800, David Crayford wrote: You really are a cheeky monkey Shane! I've always enjoyed the aussie larakin humour... Is that American Urban, or Strine (var. larrikin)? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: SFTP

2012-05-10 Thread Rob Schramm
Mark, Can you clarify... Is z/OS the client or the server? Rob Schramm Senior Systems Consultant Imperium Group On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Mark Steely mark.ste...@wnco.com wrote: We have a Linux server which grabs files from the mainframe using FTP. We need to use SFTP to get the

Re: SFTP

2012-05-10 Thread Mark Douglas (CITEC)
Hi Mark, I customised an SSH client setup via ported tools on z/OS 1.11 a couple of years back: 1. The SSHD (daemon) is only required if your z/OS system is to be the SSH server, ie if your remote Linux server needs to initiate a connection to your z/OS system on port 22 (SSH). If your z/OS

Re: SFTP and FSSEC error

2011-08-25 Thread Mark Jacobs
. Mark Jacobsmark.jac...@custserv.com Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion ListIBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 08/24/2011 02:47 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion ListIBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: SFTP and FSSEC error Do you have the CHOWN.UNRESTRICTED profile

Re: SFTP and FSSEC error

2011-08-25 Thread Kirk Wolf
Do you see this when running the z/OS sftp client or the sftp-server (IOW, the ssh client or sshd)? If the client, add the option -vvv and post the log. If the server, check syslogd for the sshd daemon for messages. Although there isn't quite enough information to make a good guess, I suspect

Re: SFTP and FSSEC error

2011-08-24 Thread Mark Jacobs
Do you have the CHOWN.UNRESTRICTED profile in the UNIXPRIV class defined in your security product? Mark Jacobs On 08/24/11 14:28, Bruce Wheatley wrote: Wondering what we've missed in setting up for external users to use SFTP transmissions. Similar messages are appearing for different

Re: SFTP and FSSEC error

2011-08-24 Thread Bruce Wheatley
Subject Re: SFTP and FSSEC error Do you have the CHOWN.UNRESTRICTED profile in the UNIXPRIV class defined in your security product? Mark Jacobs On 08/24/11 14:28, Bruce Wheatley wrote: Wondering what we've missed in setting up for external users to use SFTP transmissions. Similar messages

Re: SFTP clients and certificates

2011-01-24 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 14:17:42 -0500, Bruce Wheatley bwheat...@cds.ca wrote: So we have set up the SSH server on z/os with it's host key pair in a RACF certificate, z/os SSH client keys in certificates in RACF , but public keys for clients like WINSCP are in /$HOME/.ssh2/authorization. We would

Re: SFTP clients and certificates

2011-01-21 Thread Kirk Wolf
Bruce, If you mean X.509 certificates, then no - the ssh2 spec does not include support for X.509 *per se*. The ssh2 spec does support public/private key authentication using RSA or DSA keys. *BUT* if you are using either IBM Ported Tools for z/OS OpenSSH 1.2 or Co:Z SFTP with IBM PT 1.1, you

Re: SFTP clients and certificates

2011-01-21 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 08:47:58 -0600, Bruce Wheatley bwheat...@cds.ca wrote: Question from our sysprog group: Is it true that most SFTP clients do not support certificates? I'm not sure they asked the question they really intended, so it would help to know why they are asking the question.

Re: SFTP clients and certificates

2011-01-21 Thread Bruce Wheatley
85 Richmond St. W. Toronto, ON M5H 2C9 (416) 365-8417 bwheat...@cds.ca Walt Farrell wfarr...@us.ibm.com Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 01/21/2011 11:43 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re

Re: SFTP

2010-11-12 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
We get around this by using a copy step to copy SYSIN data to a UNIX file and then point to that file in the sftp step. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Steely Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 3:52 PM To:

Re: SFTP

2010-11-12 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
12, 2010 7:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SFTP We get around this by using a copy step to copy SYSIN data to a UNIX file and then point to that file in the sftp step. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark

Re: SFTP

2010-11-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 07:58:39 -0500, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: To open this up to some of the IBMers who monitor this list: Why is it that BPXBATCH cannot accept MVS datasets for STDIN and STDENV but AOPBATCH can? You get what you pay for. It's pretty hard to make a business case for moving a

Re: SFTP

2010-11-12 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Gilmartin Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 10:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SFTP On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 07:58:39 -0500, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: To open this up to some of the IBMers who monitor this list: Why is it that BPXBATCH cannot accept MVS datasets for STDIN and STDENV but AOPBATCH

Re: SFTP

2010-11-12 Thread McKown, John
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 9:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SFTP You're right about STDENV, it doesn't have that restriction anymore. I guess my point is that if they could remove the restriction for the other files

Re: SFTP

2010-11-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:51:07 -0500, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: You're right about STDENV, it doesn't have that restriction anymore. I guess my point is that if they could remove the restriction for the other files in BPXBATCH why not for STDIN? Don't know. I can only conjecture that to make this

Re: SFTP

2010-11-12 Thread Kirk Wolf
Right. A properly written select() loop is the answer, and you don't even need an ancillary process. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com Co:Z Toolkit - free to use; commercial support agreements are also available On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Paul Gilmartin

Re: SFTP

2010-11-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:40:53 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: Right. A properly written select() loop is the answer, and you don't even need an ancillary process. Are you saying the shell command runs in the same process space as select()? Separate threads, perhaps? -- gil

Re: SFTP

2010-11-12 Thread Kirk Wolf
Gil, Sorry, I meant that the utility itself only needs one process, but it still must (local) spawn a logon shell process. The utility doesn't need multiple threads or processes to handle I/O redirection to the shell. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com PS Here is a feature

Re: SFTP

2010-11-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:40:56 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: Sorry, I meant that the utility itself only needs one process, but it still must (local) spawn a logon shell process. The utility doesn't need multiple threads or processes to handle I/O redirection to the shell. That utility is what I regard

Re: SFTP

2010-11-12 Thread Kirk Wolf
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:40:56 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: Sorry, I meant that the utility itself only needs one process, but it still must (local) spawn a logon shell process. The utility doesn't need multiple threads or

Re: SFTP

2010-11-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 17:06:52 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: Fair enough. But even if it weren't required for I/O redirection, you couldn't use exec() anyway since that would give you a new address space. Sigh. A new address space, with an old PID. z/OS. But are you sure it's a new address space,

Re: SFTP

2010-11-11 Thread Kirk Wolf
Mark, BPXBATCH does not allow you to use DD:STDIN with an MVS dataset (only Unix files). You can, however, use the free Co:Z Toolkit which has: - a replacement for BPXBATCH that works correctly - a replacement for IBM sftp that supports z/OS datasets, among other z/OS extensions. Using this

Re: SFTP Ported Tools

2010-09-13 Thread Starr, Alan
Hi Ken, I can address some of your questions. I'm doing this from memory because I don't have the time to look everything up, so some names may be a bit off. I apologize in advance for any errors. We use sftp and keys for transfers between Linux/Unix and the mainframe. For

Re: SFTP and SCP

2009-11-13 Thread Peter Vander Woude
Another option is the Tectia SSH server for z/OS (www.ssh.com) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: SFTP and SCP

2009-11-13 Thread Scott
It's really expensive. I like that company and their software. The Co:Z SFTP package is rolling out support for RACF SSL/TLS certificates, which is outstanding. If SSH doesn't do this, that alone would be a deal breaker for me. Scott On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Peter Vander Woude

Re: SFTP and SCP

2009-11-12 Thread Jim Wangler
z/OS supports these with Ported Tools. It's free but you have to order it. Jim Wangler 214-502-6445 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Juergen Keller Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 6:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: SFTP and SCP

2009-11-12 Thread Hal Merritt
In this context, (s)FTP is just a batch job (for outbound) and a dataset creation (inbound). Nothing remarkable. The job scheduler handles all just fine. The scheduler even knows to serialize transmissions to a given server and to pace work to avoid network overload. Properly done, a data

Re: SFTP and SCP

2009-11-12 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SFTP and SCP In this context, (s)FTP is just a batch job (for outbound) and a dataset

Re: SFTP and SCP

2009-11-12 Thread Joel Wolpert
You could look into Cyberfusion Integration Suite from Proginet. Their website is http://www.proginet.com/file-transfer-products Joel Wolpert Performance and Capacity Planning consultant WEBSITE: www.perfconsultant.com - Original Message - From: Juergen Keller

Re: SFTP and SCP

2009-11-12 Thread Scott
I feel like I should create a Mainframe FAQ. http://dovetail.com/products/sftp.html Requires IBM Ported Tools. It's free and you may optionally buy support. Scott On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Joel Wolpert j...@perfconsultant.comwrote: You could look into Cyberfusion Integration Suite

Re: SFTP to/from z/OS datasets with Tectia

2009-04-20 Thread Brian Peterson
Just in case you hadn't heard about this, here's an alternative for your consideration: http://dovetail.com/products/sftp.html Brian On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:22:48 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: Sorry if this is a dupliccate posting. I think my first attempt went into the bit bucket. One of my

Re: SFTP to/from z/OS datasets with Tectia

2009-04-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:53:55 -0500, Brian Peterson brian.peterson.ibm.m...@comcast.net wrote: Just in case you hadn't heard about this, here's an alternative for your consideration: http://dovetail.com/products/sftp.html ... I have seen mention of that. That may be the next step, but as I

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS best practices

2008-08-25 Thread Jack Kelly
snip We need to set up some type of area that our users (user's) can each place their files but that can't be accessed by the other outside users. unsnip You may want to look at access ACLs in the OMVS directory. Also the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list may be more informative. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390

Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION

2008-07-10 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION Thanks, these look like good possibilities. I got some

Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION

2008-07-10 Thread Bill Godfrey
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 6:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION Thanks, these look like good possibilities. I got some help on the z/Linux forum from

Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION

2008-07-09 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION I have a question regarding the GET command for FTP. We

Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION

2008-07-09 Thread Hal Merritt
The 2 of 3 consensus here is: yes. But we don't recall how we did it. Look at z/os client parameters TRAILINGBLANKS, TRUNCATE, and WRAPRECORD. This will work if the data is FB. FTP will break the records into LRECL lengths. Look at z/os server parameters TRAILINGBLANKS, TRUNCATE, WRAPRECORD,

Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION

2008-07-09 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
Subject: Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 2:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION I have a question regarding

Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION

2008-07-09 Thread Richard Peurifoy
Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote: I'm not sure about hex, but when you look at it in Octal (in Linux), on FTP'd file there is a \r (or CR value) followed by a \n (or LF value). On the SFTP'd file, there is only a \n (LF value). That is where it gets lost. The \n is supposed to be the LF but

Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION

2008-07-09 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION I'm not sure about hex, but when you look at it in Octal

Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION

2008-07-09 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
09, 2008 4:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote: I'm not sure about hex, but when you look at it in Octal (in Linux), on FTP'd file there is a \r (or CR value) followed by a \n (or LF value). On the SFTP'd file, there is only a \n

Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION

2008-07-09 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
Thanks, these look like good possibilities. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION The 2 of 3 consensus here is: yes

Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION

2008-07-09 Thread Bill Godfrey
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SFTP GET COMMAND QUESTION Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote: I'm not sure about hex, but when you look at it in Octal (in Linux), on FTP'd file there is a \r (or CR value) followed by a \n (or LF value). On the SFTP'd file, there is only a \n (LF value). That is where

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-19 Thread Timothy Sipples
You might want to use FTPS as the shorthand name for FTP/TLS or FTP/SSL. SFTP often refers to SSH file transfer protocol. (And FTP over SSH is yet a third choice, as mentioned.) At least, that seems to be what Wikipedia thinks in terms of keeping the naming straight, so it must be true, right? :-)

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread Mark Jacobs
Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote: Hi Everyone, We have the need to start using sFTP on z/OS (via OMVS?) with a very short deadline (it always seems to work that way :-) ). We have had FTP working for years. Can anyone give me some direction/advice/good books on how to get s/FTP working?

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread Jack Kelly
snip start using sFTP on z/OS snip The Ported Tools User Guide (SA22-7985) does a great job of getting you started. Even I got it to work. Also look at the archives, there was lots of discussions about this fairly recently. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office)

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread Hal Merritt
Hi Mary, and welcome to the gottahaveitnow club :-) You have two main paths to take: SSH (secure shell) or TLS (transport layer security). TLS is a superset/replacement of SSL (secure sockets). Each has advantages/disadvantages. SSH is very popular with the *nix, tinkertoy, and audit crowds,

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread Hal Merritt
I forgot one item. I have had reports of some sort of 'SFTP' product that had nothing to do with enciphering. I seems that the proponent may have been mislead into thinking that a propriety protocol would suffice. Since this is still a brand new technology to most, be careful when you hear

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread Kirk Wolf
Hal, IBM's Ported Tools for z/OS (OpenSSH) is fully supported by the IBM support center. There was an old (unsupported) tools and toys version, which is no longer available. I'm not sure what you mean by openware. IBM's port of OpenSSH, as you point out, does not include support for MVS datasets

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
, then once we have it working do the same on 1.4. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: sFTP from/to z/OS Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM wrote: Hi

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread Jack Kelly
snip We need to install it on z/OS 1.4 snip remember that you won't be able to use the crypto with 1.4, if that's a concern. www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/unix/port_tools.htm should get you there. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office)

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
I tried to get to the link below and get a 404. Can you get there? Thanks, Mary -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Kelly Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: sFTP from/to z/OS snip

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread Steve Comstock
Of Jack Kelly Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: sFTP from/to z/OS snip We need to install it on z/OS 1.4 snip remember that you won't be able to use the crypto with 1.4, if that's a concern. www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/unix/port_tools.htm

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread Hal Merritt
Subject: Re: sFTP from/to z/OS I tried to get to the link below and get a 404. Can you get there? Thanks, Mary -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Kelly Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread McKown, John
OpenSSH is no longer available there. quote The free unsupported version of OpenSSH previously offered here is no longer available and has been replaced with a supported version. It is available as the program product IBM Ported Tools for z/OS /quote Instead:

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM I believe we will need both client and server. I'm still trying to determine that. No I haven't done anything yet. Would the ported tools come with z/OS? Not to my knowledge,

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
Okay, thanks, gotit. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: sFTP from/to z/OS http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03004c/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/unix

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: sFTP from/to z/OS Okay, thanks, gotit. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Yukus, Mary J CIV USMEPCOM Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: sFTP from/to z/OS One more question, if we receive a file, does it need

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread Rugen, Len
Doesn't PASV get around the firewall issues? It seems to be the default most places now. Len Rugen In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is. - Yogi Berra FTP with TLS has its own set of problems - mostly related to headaches for firewalls

Re: sFTP from/to z/OS

2008-06-18 Thread Kirk Wolf
Firewalls typically snoop FTP control connection commands so that they can open ports for PASV. TLS complicates this since the data is encrypted. Google ftp fls firewall for more information on the challenges. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Rugen, Len

Re: sftp help

2008-01-02 Thread Mark Jacobs
Michael Babcock wrote: I have a client who is trying to execute sftp on z/OS. We have SSH installed and running. Can someone decipher the debug output? I can't tell if the problem is on the remote end or with the mainframe. The job originates with the mainframe. This problem is usually (99+%)

Re: sftp help

2008-01-02 Thread Michael Babcock
Mark Jacobs wrote: Michael Babcock wrote: I have a client who is trying to execute sftp on z/OS. We have SSH installed and running. Can someone decipher the debug output? I can't tell if the problem is on the remote end or with the mainframe. The job originates with the mainframe.

Re: sftp help

2008-01-02 Thread Mark Post
On Wed, Jan 2, 2008 at 10:57 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Babcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a client who is trying to execute sftp on z/OS. We have SSH installed and running. Can someone decipher the debug output? I can't tell if the problem is on the remote end or with

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-03 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Wed, 2 May 2007 11:49:04 -0400, John Kington wrote: Thanks for the replies. It looks like the least painful way is to copy the data from mvs dataset(s) to hfs file(s) so that the OpenSSH port client can read them. I was just hoping there were no walls between Unix System Services and z/OS.

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-03 Thread John Kington
Norbert, Have a look at http://www.dovetail.com/products/dspipes.html and http://www.dovetail.com/docs/dspipes/cookbook.html#3_13 Thanks for the pointer. I gave in for now and we will duplicate the data to hfs. Regards, John

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-03 Thread Phil Sidler
On Thu, 3 May 2007 07:49:29 -0400, John Kington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the pointer. I gave in for now and we will duplicate the data to hfs. Another option is to use regular ftp over an encrypted ssh tunnel. for example, ssh -S -fo -L ftp/2221:127.0.0.1:21 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-03 Thread Phil Sidler
Yet another approach... cat //'MVS.DATA.SET' | ssh -T [EMAIL PROTECTED] /bin/cat '' unixfile or cp //'MVS.DATA.SET' /dev/fd1 | ssh -T [EMAIL PROTECTED] /bin/cat '' unixfile probably there is some variant that will work to Windows.

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-03 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Sidler Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 2:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SFTP Client for z/OS Yet another approach... cat //'MVS.DATA.SET' | ssh -T [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-02 Thread Ulrich Boche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a SFTP client that can run on z/OS 1.7 without needing Unix System Services? TIA John Typically, the only type of files that sftp can transfer is HFS files. Why do you want to avoid UNIX System Services? What do you want to use sftp for? -- Ulrich Boche SVA

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-02 Thread John Kington
Ulrich, Typically, the only type of files that sftp can transfer is HFS files. Why do you want to avoid UNIX System Services? What do you want to use sftp for? The datasets are z/os (mvs)and I was trying to see if we could use sftp without copying the data to HFS file(s). Regards, John

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-02 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 07:27 -0400, John Kington wrote: Is there a SFTP client that can run on z/OS 1.7 without needing Unix System Services? While we're casting wishful dreams around, anyone know of a z/OS that can run without needing Unix System Services? Just asking ... Shane ...

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-02 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Kington Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SFTP Client for z/OS Is there a SFTP client that can run on z/OS 1.7 without needing Unix System

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-02 Thread Russell, Elizabeth
Subject: Re: SFTP Client for z/OS Ulrich, Typically, the only type of files that sftp can transfer is HFS files. Why do you want to avoid UNIX System Services? What do you want to use sftp for? The datasets are z/os (mvs)and I was trying to see if we could use sftp without copying the data to HFS

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-02 Thread Jack Kelly
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Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/02/2007 at 07:27 AM, John Kington [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there a SFTP client that can run on z/OS 1.7 without needing Unix System Services? Is there a TCP/IP stack that can run on z/OS 1.7 without needing Unix System Services? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-02 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SFTP Client for z/OS In [EMAIL PROTECTED] convergys.com, on 05/02/2007 at 07

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-02 Thread John Kington
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/02/2007 11:11:16 AM: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/02/2007 at 07:27 AM, John Kington [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Is there a SFTP client that can run on z/OS 1.7 without needing Unix System Services? Is there a TCP/IP stack that

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-02 Thread John Kington
Ulrich, John, Seymour and Jack, Thanks for the replies. It looks like the least painful way is to copy the data from mvs dataset(s) to hfs file(s) so that the OpenSSH port client can read them. I was just hoping there were no walls between Unix System Services and z/OS. Regards, John

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-02 Thread John P Kalinich
John Kington wrote on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/02/2007 10:47:41 AM: I misstated. I meant reading an mvs dataset directly instead of having to copy the data to hfs file. I hate to duplicate data and effort. From my notes, one of these should work from Unix.

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-02 Thread Mark Jacobs
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 13:06, John P Kalinich wrote: John Kington wrote on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 05/02/2007 10:47:41 AM: I misstated. I meant reading an mvs dataset directly instead of having to copy the data to hfs file. I hate to duplicate data and

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, McKown, John said: Subject: Re: SFTP Client for z/OS -Original Message- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John P Kalinich Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 12:06 PM John Kington wrote on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote

Re: SFTP Client for z/OS

2007-05-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, John Kington said: Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:49:04 -0400 Ulrich, John, Seymour and Jack, Thanks for the replies. It looks like the least painful way is to copy the data from mvs dataset(s) to hfs file(s) so that the OpenSSH port client can read them. I was just

Re: SFTP vs FTPS

2006-06-01 Thread Kirk Wolf
Munif, I'm just curious, but can you elaborate on what you don't like about sftp. Was it: - lack of direct support for MVS datasets? - batch invocation problems (BPXBATCH issues)? - key authentication setup? - logging? - performance? - other? We are ourselves working on some solutions

Re: SFTP vs FTPS

2006-06-01 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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Re: SFTP vs FTPS

2006-06-01 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
At my shop the main reason we did not like it because of the lack of support for MVS files. We have found that if you have FTP servers and clients that support the EPSV4 command NAT is not an issue. Kirk Wolf wrote: Munif, I'm just curious, but can you elaborate on what you don't like

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