So, from the “RBCHAR” this is hex floating point. So with ‘45’ the First 5
nibbles of the rest are before the point. I’m wondering what this field is
that it should have a fractional part. (I guess I should look it up.)
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> On 11 Jun 2020, at 20:59, Barry Merrill wrote:
>
>
Well, I wrote an article on my internal company blog, recently. It was
exactly about messages and codes.
People couldn't believe in some statements:
1. Every message has its own ID. Fortunately readers agreed that msg ID
is far better than "Oops! Something went wrong, try again later".
2. Every
Aargh! "Nybbles" me dummy. :-)
(And I know how this is going to go: The word "nybbles" will be debated to
death on IBM-MAIN now. TGIF. :-) )
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer
zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM
+44-7802-245-584
email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
Thanks for the clarification, very useful!
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 08:58 Parwez Hamid wrote:
> Short answer - YES.
>
> FC 9975 is basically to reduce the 'height' for shipping/delivery purposes
> i.e if there isn't enough height clearance for the doorway. If a system is
> ordered with this
>Those were added w/ COBOL 2002, not 2014. Don't give yourself too much cre=
>dit!
I noticed that too, and thought I had corrected my post, but I guess I failed!
Cheers,
TomR >> COBOL is the Language of the Future! <<
Short answer - YES.
FC 9975 is basically to reduce the 'height' for shipping/delivery purposes i.e
if there isn't enough height clearance for the doorway. If a system is ordered
with this feature, it just enlongates the install time. Nothing to stop 'you'
to remove and reinstall the top bit.
Charles Mills wrote:
>You have to understand national politics: "we won't buy this
>product; the error messages are in English" [not French,
>Japanese, etc.]
>Even though you are of course right, "diskette in drive" is
>more understandable to the average French speaker than
>!! Sys01475
(a) This
I wonder, though, whether newbies can easily tell the difference between
eg "DFS" and "DFH". Particularly poignant, that pair. :-)
So we all know "ICH" and, latterly "IRR", (FSVO "latterly" :-) ) are RACF.
But do newbies pick this up quickly?
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer
zChampion, Systems
In my receive job I can see the various jcl members I would need to run
CQMALLOC, CQMDDDEF, etc. These would be put in a SCQMSAMP pds. But I dont have
those PDSs defined yet.
Bill
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We used to run a product called SPIFFY by Isogon. It was bought by IBM and
renamed to Dataset Commander. I was actually told by the IBMer supporting the
product that they didn't have a messages manual. He said the messages were
self-explanatory. And he was serious.
I tried to explain that if
There should be some downloadable doc along with the order. I presume this is a
cbpdo order, and not a Serverpac order.
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Bill Giannelli
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Subject: DDDEFs
On 6/11/2020 11:38 AM, Bill Giannelli wrote:
I want to setup separate SMPe environments, say 3 for different maintenance levels. One matching production
then 2 others for maintenance levels "coming next". My question is, when I what to update my PROD
environment with one of the other
It's not the users -- they want the original (i.e., in this case, English)
documentation. It is fussbudgets in purchasing or legal.
Charles
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So I had a CSI setup and provided for by someone else. As I am going thru it it
seems there are FMIDs for a couple of products missing:
DB2 BASE Z/OS
HDREC10 DB2 RACF EXIT Z/OS
HIYCC10 DB2 IMS ATTACH Z/OS
HIZCC10 DB2 SUBSYS INIT Z/OS
JDBCC1Z DB2 12 VUE
JDBCC12 DB2 JDBC/SQLJ Z/OS
Db2 QMF for z/OS
That’s why you either copy them out of the relfiles, or pull them up in VIEW
mode, make your temporary customizations, run them, and then cancel out.
There is usually an allocation job, a DDDEF job, a ZFS allocation & mkdir job
(if prod has zfs), apply and accept jobs in there.
The program
I used the standard JCL options for MFI and a steplib/job with an EQAOPTS that
has SVCSCREEN turned on.
//CEEOPTS DD *
TEST(,,,MFI%:)
//INSPLOG DD SYSOUT=*
Here are some other options that may help you debug
//$DTRAC82 DD SYSOUT=*
//IEWDIAG DD SYSOUT=*
//IEWTRACE DD
I really appreciate everyone's help here!
The issue I had I believe was that I failed to specify FORFMID.
However, I need to take a step back and review my SMPe environment.
The CSI was handed off to me and I am finding some things wrong, like missing
FMIDs for some of my base products.
thank you
W dniu 12.06.2020 o 00:34, Christian Svensson pisze:
Hi,
A bit of a niche question maybe, but this list usually enjoys those!
I need to move my z114, and sadly I don't have the possibility of
inspecting it physically right now. I was wondering if anyone knows if it
is possible to reduce the
I think Windows supports my point. It is sold in France and Japan in French
and Japanese versions.
Charles
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Tom Brennan wrote:
>At least in that case you can hopefully reproduce the error :)
>It's the one-time lost error messages that as a support person, you
>sometimes have to say, "Oh well"
I call this an "anecdotal error": worth opening a ticket with as much (little)
detail as possible and then
Those jobs are usually in one of the SMP/e unloaded relfiles. The install
documentation should have that information.
Mark Jacobs
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thank you for the help!
I found the job members in one of the RELFILES and can run the CQMALLOC
CQMALLO2 CQMDDDEF CQMDDDEF2 easy enough and then hopefully run a clean apply
check.
But I feel I am missing something here.
I cant run and apply until I run those jobs but the apply will populate
Historically, if these fields pre-dated binary floating point (let alone
decimal floating point), they are certainly hex float point.
That would not change.
Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design
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I think the MFI maybe the key as I use VTAM% I think MFI indicates a dedicated
terminal, why because what happens is after I abend and before my recovery gets
control
For a split second I see tool trying to connect to a NEW terminal then I get
debug tool screen displaying garbage with my
Charles Mills wrote, in part:
>I never bothered -- I have always gone with (s) as in "You have %d dog(s)"
You could substitute "an integer value greater 0 and less than 2" when it's
"1", and then "dogs" would always be correct :)
Well, if they come from a world where there is no messages manual, it may not
occur to them to RTFM; that should be part of their initial training, but we
all know how generous education budgets are these days.
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W dniu 12.06.2020 o 12:59, Seymour J Metz pisze:
Well, if they come from a world where there is no messages manual, it may not
occur to them to RTFM; that should be part of their initial training, but we
all know how generous education budgets are these days.
I teach mainframe courses in
So I have another "rookie" mistake here.
I am ordering Db2 Query Monitor z/OS v3.
I ordered and ran the GIMSMP - Download, Unpack, Receive job which completed
successfully (CC 0).
Now I am trying to run the Apply Check and am failing on missing DDDEFs and
Datasets.
Where would I get the jcl
I agree, there's a couple of documents, normally, it's been a while since I
ordered a CBPDO and that was for the OS, IIRC there's a RIMFILE, but the doc
should point you to an SMPREL FILE hlq.fmidid.F1 F1 F2 that has JCL to
defined the SMP DDDEF's or an IEBCOPY job that copied that RELFILE
yes this is a CBPDO order.
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> 4. Message description in the book is more than "Something is wrong.
Try again later".
That may be true now: I still recall with rage "The following messages are self
explanatory."
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What I do is VIEW these RELFILES and modify the JCL, run them, then cancel out
(Ie don’t update the data).
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Well...
The only country I can imagine such approach is France.
I don't know Japan, so I cannot say.
However I met mainrame people from South America and they told me they
orderd and use English documentation due to quality (Spanish doco is
horrible - they said).
I have never heard about such
In your shopz order there is a publications link. In there you will find the
Program Directory. In it, it documents the steps to complete the SMPE work,
along with the sample jobs.
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Dave
If I'm reading this right, you're using a CSI or a CSI report that does not
contain the FMIDs you need to appy maint to ?
using Shopz you have the option of ordering the products you need without using
a CSI report. if you create, and upload the CSI report to SHOPZ based on what
you've said
Bill,
Make sure you are working with your licensing team. Some products have
different charges and your Licensing team and/or Purchasing departments would
not like any surprise billing due to what you are ordering.
You probably should confirm what you are ordering with your management team
I was once involved with a lady who had been director of user support, and
thought that she deserved a medal for putting up with it.
On the flip side, there are some users who know what they are doing and give
you the data that you need to resolve the problem. Cherish them.
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Confession: before I was a PL/1 bigot, I was an Assembler H bigot (now I'm
both) :-)
Rupert
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020, 05:10 Bob Bridges wrote:
> Heck, I was a PL/1 bigot from the start. There are other languages I
> like, but I remember PL/1 with a kind of rosy glow - possibly because I
> never
How about after throwing firewalls in to the mix? FTP's dual port
architecture is simply a nightmare.
Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com
On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 1:01 PM Charles Mills wrote:
> X-Posted IBMMAIN and IBMTCP. Apologies. This is a question that is both
> urgent
Aside from, I think this is still true, absent Dovetail extensions, the
requirement that SFTP only works with ZFS/HFS files
>
> There are other things, I'm sure I'm forgetting. Switch to SFTP, and life
> gets
> much easier--most of the time.
>
> First Horizon Bank
> Mainframe Technical
No. I have z/OS(Z038) and Data Virtualization Manager (P115) installed in the
same CSI and Target/dlib zones.
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AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering
Fifth Third Bank | 1830 East
Well, your point is made und understood, but active mode is the one using PORT;
passive mode uses PASV. They both have their FW/load balancer issues.
We tend to use a variety of "fixes" for the various issues, given our
convoluted (typical?) environment. EPSV can help. Some clients have the
I don't know how you were "given" the setup, but it is quite possible that
there are multiple GLOBAL CSI's. If you can talk to whomever set it up before
they quit, do it. Otherwise you are going to do a bit of looking around.
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 10:13:31 -0500 Bill Giannelli
wrote:
:>So I had a
We live behind an f5 Load Balancer. It knows our certificates and can
decrypt/recrypt to determine the PORT. We flat don't do active FTPS
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so I need to reorder it all over again?
thanks
Bill
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if you require these products, at the very least you need to order those
products not the entire suite
be careful what you order, I see you're running
JDBCC1Z DB2 12 VUE
VUE is special pricing and whatever you order and install needs to support that
VUE contract
as Binyamin mentioned, at
Did he get his start as a Tech Writer for COBOL (E)?
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I can't locate the original post in this saga, which mentioned a lot of 'no
applicable FMID' messages. I'm curious how that happened. When we order general
(mass) maintenance, RECEIVE FROMNETWORK examines our SMPE environment and looks
only for PTFs that are in fact applicable. It ignores fixes
Don't you still need a separate CSI for each SREL?
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X-Posted IBMMAIN and IBMTCP. Apologies. This is a question that is both
urgent for us and perhaps a little obscure.
With Passive FTP, the server uses a PORT command to say to the client "open
the data connection on this IP address." Unfortunately with NAT that is an
internal address that is
I've never understood why RFC 4960 Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP)
didn't catch on and get exploited by a new FTP protocol.
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Many years ago when my organization was developing thousands of online
screens for our IMS applications, I tried to get our screen design
standards committee to implement a standard that would have required a
message id to appear beside every error message displayed on the screen.
They flatly
On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 22:32:31 +0300, Binyamin Dissen
wrote:
>On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 15:18:40 -0300 Clark Morris wrote:
>
>:>[Default] On 10 Jun 2020 07:43:41 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
>:>ku...@us.ibm.com (Kurt Quackenbush) wrote:
>:>
>:>>> snip
>:>>Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development
In my case, it was and is long stable FTPS jobs using standard files and no
knowledgeable staff with time to refit to stfp.
About a decade ago, I experimented with the idea of wrapping a PROC around the
whole process. Ran out of available time to solve all issues.
> -Original Message-
Some of the entertaining horror stories were not funny at the time. Take the
JES2 and TSO Command Package packaging errors, thinly disguised at
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3/humor/PUT.Process.html; I was definitely not
amused at the time.
My favorite was "But COBOL doesn't use registers."
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I am gathering from reading the RFC that that 227 Entering Passive Mode
(10,200,40,20,8,106) is a verbatim message from the server, and for the
question "what *does* the server send?" the answer is "that 227 message."
Is that correct?
Charles
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(Re-posting because ???)
I can't locate the original post in this saga, which mentioned a lot of 'no
applicable FMID' messages. I'm curious how that happened. When we order general
(mass) maintenance, RECEIVE FROMNETWORK examines our SMPE environment and looks
only for PTFs that are in fact
Before I found out about Co:Z I used shell scripts and REXX in OMVS to copy the
files back and forth from MVS datasets to OMVS file systems (if sending to the
mainframe, they would follow up the copy with a SSH and execute a script with a
table of DSNs with DCBs to copy to a MVS dataset . . .
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 20:46:49 +, Jackson, Rob wrote:
>Before I found out about Co:Z I used shell scripts and REXX in OMVS to copy
>the files back and forth from MVS datasets to OMVS file systems (if sending to
>the mainframe, they would follow up the copy with a SSH and execute a script
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 18:21:47 +, Gibney, Dave wrote:
>Aside from, I think this is still true, absent Dovetail extensions, the
>requirement that SFTP only works with ZFS/HFS files
>>
What's the intended recipient? If desktop or Open Systems, zFS/HFS should
be acceptable. If z/OS,
Volvo Truck NA, for whom I worked 14 years, had a sort of DOS-101 class for
all our end users who were trying to figure out how to use the PCs newly on
their desks. Some of them actually seemed to pay attention, and came back
to their cubicles understanding, for instance, what a root directory is
Thanks all! Thanks much! Let me try to do one reply here to hold down the noise.
> active mode is the one using PORT; passive mode uses PASV
Thank you! It's a detail but I want to have the details right. Details are of
the essence here. What *exactly* does the server send? On the client end I
I honestly had never considered doing it this way (build one environment and
then clone the updated copies), I always cloned and then updated that clone,
but it makes sense that this would work just as well. It might even be more
effective, although I my way has the advantage of being able to
[Default] On 11 Jun 2020 16:17:47 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
rreyno...@cix.co.uk (Rupert Reynolds) wrote:
>I lost faith COBOL and finallly became a PL/1 biggot when I was told that
>ALTER GOTO was introduced to help support structured programmng :-)
As someone who made extensive use ALTER
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