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On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 7:23 AM R.S. <mailto:r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl>
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> (I know it's off-topic)
> My opinion: I like american cars and roads.
> However I don
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 7:23 AM R.S. wrote:
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> My opinion: I like american cars and roads.
> However I don't understand common speed limit 55 mph which is in my
> opinion too low for the road on desert.
>
Pretty much "inertia". Back when 55 was first introduced, it
in South Dakota - are reasonable.
Rex
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My
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My opinion: I like american cars and roads.
However I don't understand
of about 130 KPH. So
the divided highways - at least in South Dakota - are reasonable.
Rex
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(I know it's off-topic)
My opinion: I like american cars and roads.
However I don't understand common speed limit 55 mph which is in my
opinion too low for the road on desert.
BTW:
Here in Poland default limit on highway is 140 km/h.
However in Germany default is ...your sanity. No speed
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 07:58:07 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
>Centigrade was derived f
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 07:58:07 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
>Centigrade was derived from Celsius, however, both described only the
>freezing point and boiling point of water at NTP.
>
If "was derived" implies a historical sequence, I think you have it reversed.
>My physics teachers said don't
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2020, at 22:58, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> Should an outfitter sell climbing ropes rated in Newtons?
I have a feeling that things like safety harnesses (for people working at
height), fall-arrest systems etc are rated in Newtons etc.
It's probably because it's not just the static
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ds is a measure of pressure
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Horse Power??
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Paul Gilmartin wrote on 7/22/20 10:20 PM:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 00:31:03 +, Gibney, Dave wrote:
Foot pounds is a measure of pressure
???
Torque?
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Yes, and whyat is lbf?
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 00:31:03 +, Gibney, Dave wrote:
>Foot pounds is a measure of pressure
>
???
Torque?
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>> Yes, and whyat is lbf?
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Foot pounds is a measure of pressure
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> You have the same mass versus weight issue with pound.
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>I took me a while befo
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See! SI is a "FANTASTIC" improvement over old stuff. It's all
standardized and everyone talks in the same way. (NOT!)
Thank you France.
Vive la pound, and inch, and mile...
On Jul 22, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Paul Gilmartin
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> (BTW, what's the SI unit of Specific Impulse? And the formula for ∆v? Ugh!)
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>
From wikipedia:
“The most common unit for specific impulse is the second, as values are
identical
See! SI is a "FANTASTIC" improvement over old stuff. It's all
standardized and everyone talks in the same way. (NOT!)
Thank you France.
Vive la pound, and inch, and mile...
(This post was posted with sarcastic mode set to "on".)
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Paul Gilmartin wrote on 7/22/20 5:58 PM:
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> Kelvin (absolute temperature) is converted from Celsius. Centigrade doesn't
> exist.
>
> On Wed, J
On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 17:05:29 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>I took me a while before I realized that, of course, kg is a unit of mass, not
>of weight; you weigh tings in kilogram-force (kgf or kgF).
>
Which of the following would you envision and welcome as an idiomatic
alternative?:
o ... how
, July 22, 2020 4:54 PM
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Kelvin (absolute temperature) is converted from Celsius. Centigrade doesn't
exist.
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020, 13:46 Jackson, Rob wrote:
> We have definitely devolved . . . l
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> A kilogram is not a weight, Bob. Never has been; never will be. I'm not
> one to be anal-retentive. This point is m
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A kilogram is not a weight, Bob. Never has been; never will be. I'm not one
On Jul 22, 2020, at 1:41 PM, Bob Bridges wrote:
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> Who doesn't? You may not, but lots of other people do. What am I missing,
> here?
As long as you stay near the earth’s surface, you can treat mass and weight as
equivalent. But kilograms measure mass, not weight. If I go into orbit around
On Wed, 22 Jul 2020, at 19:41, Bob Bridges wrote:
> Who doesn't? You may not, but lots of other people do. What am I missing,
> here?
That kg is a measure of mass, ie how much there is of something. One kg of
sugar on earth is the same amount as 1 kg on the moon.
Weight depends on gravity.
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When I was a kid a hundred years ago, the cano
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We have definitely devolved . . . like we always do on
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On 2020-07-22 14:38, Bob Bridges wrote:
For weather I don't feel the need to distinguish between 67°F and 68°F. "High
60s" is close enough for most conversations.
I suppose you already know this, but when someone (I forget who) first worked out the
normal human temperature, he
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For weather I don't feel the need to distinguish between 67°F and 68°F. "High
60s" is c
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Who doesn't? You may not, but lots
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Who doesn't? You may not, but lots of other people do. What am I missing,
here?
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For weather I don't feel the need to distinguish between 67°F and 68°F. "High
60s" is close enough for most conversations.
I suppose you already know this, but when someone (I forget who) first worked
out the normal human temperature, he measured a number of people and arrived at
an average
I just think the word "Celsius" is ugly; "centigrade" is comparatively
euphonious. A personal bias.
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My high school physics teacher would be rolling in his grave about now. You
don't weigh
Is it time to mind our Ps and Qs yet?
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On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Bob Bridges wrote:
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> Interesting; centigrade is the one system I use nowadays without
On Jul 22, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Bob Bridges wrote:
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> Interesting; centigrade is the one system I use nowadays without having to
> think much about it. It's so easy: 0s are cold, 10s are cool, 20s are
> warm, 30s are hot.
If 30s are hot, what do you call 40s? We hit 106°F last week, which is
What about cubits and stadia?
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If we're going to express sympathy for imperial units, I've always thought the
furlong was pretty useful. Not so much when you're driving a car, but for
walking it works pretty well.
Portages in Minnesota and Ontario are measured in rods, but I could never get
my head wrapped around them.
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Interesting; centigrade is the one system I use nowadays without having to
think much about it. It's so easy: 0s
Yeah, except that Fahrenheit degrees are smaller. For the same accuracy,
you'd have to resort to digits to the right of the decimal point. Feh!
On 2020-07-22 12:15, Bob Bridges wrote:
Interesting; centigrade is the one system I use nowadays without having to
think much about it. It's so easy:
Centigrade? It always thought it's Celsius. :)
Joe
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 11:16 AM Bob Bridges wrote:
> Interesting; centigrade is the one system I use nowadays without having to
> think much about it. It's so easy: 0s are cold, 10s are cool, 20s are
> warm, 30s are hot.
>
> I get
Interesting; centigrade is the one system I use nowadays without having to
think much about it. It's so easy: 0s are cold, 10s are cool, 20s are
warm, 30s are hot.
I get kilometers but I think in miles. For short measurements I like
centimeters and millimeters, but I couldnt tell you how tall
I wondered whether someone would catch me on that. Yeah, I know AltaVista gave
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Not as bad as the pint. I thought I was being short changed when I first
ordered a beer in the USA!
On 21 Jul 2020, at 10:57 pm, Tom Russell wrote:
>> Do we really want to stick with a system of units that few of us understand,
>> with the
>> same name denoting different quantities depending
I guess everyone knows I can't type worth a flip. :-)
Tony Thigpen
Mike Schwab wrote on 7/21/20 4:58 PM:
100 KPM (Kilometers per minute) would be about 6,000 KPH (Kilometers per
hour), about Mach 6, or 3 times the speed of the Concorde.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:24 PM Tony Thigpen wrote:
100 KPM (Kilometers per minute) would be about 6,000 KPH (Kilometers per
hour), about Mach 6, or 3 times the speed of the Concorde.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:24 PM Tony Thigpen wrote:
> Too many things
>
> That context was with regard to driving in Canada and should have been
> 100 KPM, not
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Well, "the whole nine yards" is about cloth, so I guess it fits the two known
items. :-)
As for things being in SI and not US, but labeled as US, yes, I too am seeing that. If
you b
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Well, "the whole nine yards" is about cloth, so I gue
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> That context was with regard to driving in Can
Well, "the whole nine yards" is about cloth, so I guess it fits the two
known items. :-)
As for things being in SI and not US, but labeled as US, yes, I too am
seeing that. If you buy washers (for bolts) at the big box stores, they
have larger holes than the ones at the true hardware store.
On Tue, 21 Jul 2020, at 17:00, Tony Thigpen wrote:
> It's all perspective and how precise you need to be. And what we are
> measuring.
>
> The only thing I know that is measured in yards is cloth and football.
What about "the whole nine yards"?
> In home improvements, boards and such are
Too many things
That context was with regard to driving in Canada and should have been
100 KPM, not 100 knots. :-(
Last time I was in Canada, we still were stuck with mostly 55mph limits
in USA while Canada seemed to have a standard of 100kpm so I equate the two.
My point was that I
On Jul 21, 2020, at 11:12 AM, David Spiegel wrote:
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> "... 100 knots is about 55mph ..."
> Assuming you meant Kilometers/Hour (based upon the context), it's actually
> 62.5 MPH.
>
Well, if the posted limit is 55 mph, 62.5 mph seems about the right speed to
go.
But duck-duck-go tells me
Hi Tony,
"... 100 knots is about 55mph ..."
Assuming you meant Kilometers/Hour (based upon the context), it's
actually 62.5 MPH.
Regards,
David
On 2020-07-21 12:00, Tony Thigpen wrote:
It's all perspective and how precise you need to be. And what we are
measuring.
The only thing I know
It's all perspective and how precise you need to be. And what we are
measuring.
The only thing I know that is measured in yards is cloth and football.
In football, we never measure in feet or inches, just yards. We just
care if it crosses the line.
For construction, we never use yards, it's
Hi Tom,
Don't forget that Metric was foisted upon us (as was federal
bilingualism) by Justin's father as a political move after he quelled
the FLQ Crisis.
It also was a sneaky way to get more tax revenue. That is, 1 penny/liter
gasoline tax seems more palatable than an extra 4.5 cents/gallon.
> Do we really want to stick with a system of units that few of us understand,
> with the
> same name denoting different quantities depending on context?
I agree with Shmuel. As a Canadian I was always mildly amused that the
Americans had different quarts and gallons from us. They were wrong
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I agree that cups are useful! The only time I find Imperial useful is
reading US recipes that use cups. Other
I agree that cups are useful! The only time I find Imperial useful is
reading US recipes that use cups. Other than that Imperial is brain
damaged! And I say that having grown up in the UK to a family which used
Imperial all the time in my youth.
I used to go to the sweet shop and ask for a
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On Jul 20, 2020, at 10:22
On Jul 20, 2020, at 10:22 PM, Jackson, Rob wrote:
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> American standard--Imperial units; they're rubbish. Abject garbage. SI is
> not a fad, despite its origins. No fan of the "French;" no fan of "Trump;"
> no fan of anything political. But SI, revised a couple times or three, is a
>
ank
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Absolute 0 is 0K, 0R, -273.15C, -459.67F
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The practical value doesn't depend on how it started. Yes, I could say all
sorts
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And FINGERing each other???
:-)
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Seymour J Metz wrote on 7/20/20 9:20 PM:
> IMHO we'd all be better off with Gopher instead of the WWW.
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Well, at least he didn't claim to be using Archie, or Veronica.
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Well, at least he didn't claim to be using Archie, or Veronica.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 7:20 PM zMan wrote:
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> Not gonna sue you, but you realize AltaVista died in 2003,
Well, at least he didn't claim to be using Archie, or Veronica.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 7:20 PM zMan wrote:
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> Not gonna sue you, but you realize AltaVista died in 2003, right? You’re
> using Yahoo, whose continued existence is a mystery to all.
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 3:52 PM Bob Bridges
Not gonna sue you, but you realize AltaVista died in 2003, right? You’re
using Yahoo, whose continued existence is a mystery to all.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 3:52 PM Bob Bridges wrote:
> You had me convinced, Tony :). I've recently started using "Google",
> capitalized, to mean Google, but the
Well, the English Inch and the American inch were both defined as 3
barley corns. But the lengths were slightly different. So in 1959
they set the international inch as 25.4 mm, which was between the two
values and less than 1/1000 for the larger change from the old value.
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Yes, it started as a 'fad'. If you look at what happened, the French
were beheading all the royalty just because "
Yes, it started as a 'fad'. If you look at what happened, the French
were beheading all the royalty just because "royalty is bad" and they
wanted a new measurement system because the old one could be traced back
to royalty so therefore that old measurement system was also "bad" by
association.
This interests me. I'm sort of on Seymour's side on this one, Tony; I
learned the metric system in high-school chemistry and mildly prefer it.
While I gotta admire anyone with the stick-to-it-iveness it takes to call it
a "fad" after two hundred years and 192 out of 195 countries, I'm persuaded
You had me convinced, Tony :). I've recently started using "Google",
capitalized, to mean Google, but the lower-case verb "google" to mean simply
that I searched for something on-line. (By habit I use AltaVista, actually.
So I'm an old fart - so sue me.) So when I finally noticed that you were
Actually, the original gram was 1 cubic centimeter of distilled water
at 4c, making a kilogram 10 cm * 10 cm * 10 cm of distilled water at
4c. Then they discovered nuclear isotopes that allowed the mass of
water to vary between samples.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 6:41 AM Tony Thigpen wrote:
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OK. OK, I now see how I was not communicating it correctly. At one point
when I was talking about Wikipedia, I started using the term 'google'.
And, yes, I was incorrect. I intended to be talking about Wikipedia, not
Google. I guess my age is now showing. :-(
Tony Thigpen
Jeremy Nicoll wrote
On Mon, 20 Jul 2020, at 13:42, Tony Thigpen wrote:
> You have missed the point. Twice. Enough said. Not worth the effort.
Well in that case perhaps you'd care to explain to /me/ what you meant by
... when I said that google is not an authority. Anybody can write
just about anything
://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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You have missed the point. Twice. Enough said. Not worth the effort.
Tony Thigpen
Steve Smith wrote on 7/20/20 8:38 AM:
And therefore the question as to what you're talking about. You seem to be
conflating a search engine with an online encyclopedia for some reason. So
we're left wondering
And therefore the question as to what you're talking about. You seem to be
conflating a search engine with an online encyclopedia for some reason. So
we're left wondering what it is you really mean.
Wikipedia itself says it's not an academic reference, and actually no
encyclopedia is. It is
://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
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Wayne,
We are an indepen
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Wayne,
We are an independent sort of people. We don't blindly follow others
after the latest fad,
Wayne,
We are an independent sort of people. We don't blindly follow others
after the latest fad, like SI units. SI units are not really built on
something real, but instead are a unit that looked for a base item that
'fit' into the new perception of reality.
It is humorous that the meter
Bob,
I was referring to your "Wikipedia
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium) says this about the name:"
quote when I said that google is not an authority. Anybody can write
just about anything into google. Most teachers will not allow quotes
from google due to the mess that google is
Always interesting, if you like words (and I do). Thanks.
"Google", you say? Google isn't the source of my information, only the
warehouse (so to speak). The first source I quoted was Mr Davy himself. But
maybe you meant Wikipedia; a lot of people express varying amounts of derision
when
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