Re: LIST % wildcard as the last character

2004-09-30 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
nd could be returned as a >\NoSelect name. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=imap&m=104561252904979&w=2 Let's make that a "must". Better to keep statements like this consistent. Andy :-) -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.andreas.hanssen.name/gpg2

Re: LIST % wildcard as the last character

2004-09-30 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, David Truckenmiller wrote: >R2: * LIST () "/" "/m/aaa" >R2: * LIST () "/" "/m/aaa/one" This. It has been discussed before; see the archives for details. Andy :-) -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.andreas.hanssen.name/gpg2

Re: Funky IMAP by Pine

2004-09-28 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Mark Crispin wrote: >IIRC, this is a bug in Pine 4.58 that we already found and fixed in >Pine 4.61. My user upgraded to 4.61 and sees the same behavior. See attached dump. (This post probably belongs on the Pine mailing list.) Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hansse

RE: Funky IMAP by Pine

2004-09-28 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
essage 1 has no CRLF after its headers. Otherwise it should say {2} and output that CRLF. Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.andreas.hanssen.name/gpg2

Re: Funky IMAP by Pine

2004-09-28 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
lds ("")] Andreas -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.andreas.hanssen.name/gpg2

Re: Funky IMAP by Pine

2004-09-28 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
th this response, the server is stating that there is no "" header, it seems quite acceptable wrt to protocol, and it's gigo. Cyrus IMAP says: 3 fetch 1 body[header.fields ("")] 3 BAD Invalid field-name in Fetch BODY[HEADER.FIELDS Andreas -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.andreas.hanssen.name/gpg2

Funky IMAP by Pine

2004-09-28 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
XT" "PLAIN" ("charset" "US-ASCII") NIL NIL "7bit" 29 2 NIL NIL NIL NIL) FLAGS (\Seen)) 0007 OK FETCH completed 0008 FETCH 1 BODY.PEEK[HEADER.FIELDS ("")] * 1 FETCH (BODY[HEADER.FIELDS ()] {2} ) 0008 OK FETCH completed -- Andrea

Re: File Locking

2004-07-08 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
og heartbeats, the other machine simply started answering them instead. The user noticed nothing when a backend server died. The same method was used by the SMTP servers, when they chose where to deliver a message. Andy :-) -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.andreas.hanssen.name/gpg2

Re: List of Subscribed Mailbox

2004-04-30 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Mark Crispin wrote: >On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >>A mailbox can be subscribed to twice, which does not make any sense, >>whatsoever. >If an interpretation does not make sense, that should be a clue that >there is something wrong wi

Re: List of Subscribed Mailbox

2004-04-29 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
ing duplicates so one has to assume that multiple subscribed mailboxes must be listed as they are. This has been discussed before, and Courier-IMAP and Cyrus IMAP both ignore the second SUBSCRIBE to foo; I specifically remember the discussion being that with the current IMAP scheme, the subscribe

Re: List of Subscribed Mailbox

2004-04-28 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
nything really, and the best a client user can do is to unsubscribe from it. The client could test the validity of all subscribed mailboxes, and mark all nonexistent mailboxes gray or something, that's all I could think of. Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.andreas.hanssen.name/gpg2

Re: List of Subscribed Mailbox

2004-04-27 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
d saw no reason to unsubscribe in the meantime. Bad client behavior IMO, deleting and recreating a mailbox compared to deleting all messages in the mailbox, but I believe this is one of the main arguments for the "delete does not imply unsubscribe" feature. Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.andreas.hanssen.name/gpg2

Re: IMAP & SPA

2004-04-05 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >On Mon, 5 Apr 2004, Alexey Melnikov wrote: >>If I am not mistaken SPA just means SASL. Outlook will select one of the >>SASL mechanisms it has support for. >Here's an old link, but worth posting. Not sure if you'r

Re: IMAP & SPA

2004-04-05 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
ding to this advisory: http://www.security.nnov.ru/advisories/oespa.asp Andreas -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.andreas.hanssen.name/gpg2

Re: IMAP & SPA

2004-04-04 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
hat are the pro's or con's? Can I config >IMAP to use SPA or is just SSL good enough? SPA is a proprietary protocol owned by a rather big company in the US. It is closed, so nobody really knows how secure it is. You are perfectly well off with using SSL, which is an open protocol, and not c

Re: IMAP4 & IMAP4rev1 Capability Response

2004-04-02 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Per Hygum Due wrote: >Any knowledge about vendors who has implemented such a IMAP server ? Why not show us the greeting? Much easier than to explain what it says. Andreas -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.andreas.hanssen.name/gpg2

Re: Peculiar FETCH response

2004-01-16 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
server's allowed to attach this update to the FETCH response. The next time, the \Seen flag has already been set, so there's no update. Andy :-) -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/

RE: FLAGS clarification

2003-12-10 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
f your life fixing bugs and working around "funny" client behavior. Andy :-) -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/

Re: BODY.PEEK[HEADER] Server-Response

2003-12-09 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
Instructions are right where they belong: List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/

Re: FLAGS clarification

2003-12-09 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
because this is read only I have to suggest you try to store the flags in memory when unable to store them permanently. Andy :-) -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/

Re: BODY.PEEK[HEADER] Server-Response

2003-12-09 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
d at least be a blank line here, after the subject line, before the ). Or were you referring to the contents of the subject? ;-) Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/

Re: Courier IMAP bugs

2003-12-03 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, DINH Viet Hoa wrote: >Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote : >> This is the reason for me starting with Binc IMAP really. :/ >I was quickly reading your document there : >http://www.bincimap.org/bincimap-tech.html >in fact, I wished I could see the pi

RE: Compliance issues was RE: Courier IMAP bugs

2003-12-03 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
ng of why things are the way the are. And I claim that in 100% of the cases, an enforcing protocol requires more time to implement. The IMAP protocol is not a guidebook. :-) Andy :-) -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/

Re: Courier IMAP bugs

2003-12-03 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: >Andreas Aardal Hanssen writes: >> Be careful when reporting this bug to the Courier-IMAP project, or you >> might just get flamed (seriously). >I am shocked. Are you really serious? I don't really want to spam the list too muc

Re: Courier IMAP bugs

2003-12-03 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
seriously). Andy :-) -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/

Re: mailbox pattern in LIST

2003-11-20 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
;/' in an early release, almost no clients started using '/' unless the account was set up completely from scratch. Pine and a few others handled it fine, though.. So if your server ever outputted "\"" as the delimiter some time in the past, that might be the reaso

Re: on explicit locking

2003-09-25 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
xplicit locking mechanism, I would have to claim it was a step back in terms of the protocol's evolution. :-) Rather define (or discover) semantics that allow one to avoid locking altogether. Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/

Re: LIST

2003-09-22 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
to stderr, and the IMAP server doesn't have to do that. But it can: NO - list failure: can't list that reference or name So I can't see that the UNIX way is different of the IMAP way, really. Andy :-) -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/

Re: LIST

2003-09-19 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
d IMAP client should not have to deal with different mail stores as long as both they and the server both speak perfect IMAP. If my client needs to know how \Noselect works with Maildir++ and MySQL, and why certain stores need to use \Noinferiors and so on, then writing an IMAP client is infeasa

SHOULD, \Marked, \Noselect

2003-09-17 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
t. But the grammar says it's not allowed. So SHOULD SHOULD perhaps be MUST. :-) Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/ -- - For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/imap/imap-list.html -

MIME errors

2003-09-13 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
behave when reading such messages? Binc IMAP will not interpret the first boundary as a boundary, but will skip to the next part, as it does in general not have workarounds for broken content. But what do your servers do? Andy --

\NoSelect

2003-09-10 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
t assumes that Dev has no submailboxes. Is this wrong behavior from Mozilla, or is the response from the IMAP server wrong? Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/ -- - For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/imap/imap-list.html -

Re: SMTPPATH LEN to include '<' , '>' or not..

2003-09-09 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
let it through, then the IMAP server can display it as NIL, or just the way it was accepted. Anyway it's garbage. So it's up to you. But please don't "char domain[256];" without checking those boundaries ;). Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/

Re: Best practice for syntactically invalid message-ids?

2003-09-08 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
UA falls over can complain. Fairly? Perhaps not. Then the author of the IMAP server can go "I don't care!" :-). A broken client is a broken client. Andy - doesn't care -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/

Re: Best practice for syntactically invalid message-ids?

2003-09-08 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
g the message format can make them get 2/1 instead of 1/1 views, then they'll do it. In this particular case, I think the IMAP server should show the ID if it can, otherwise it should just go NIL. Since it's garbage in, nobody can complain if the server shows garbage to the user. A

RE: IMAP not good enough?

2003-08-14 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
while still being rich and full of features. So I don't support your implicit distinction between marvelous proprietary protcols and poor open ones. Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/

Re: Untagged responses

2003-07-11 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
an the client assume anything about the UID in this last example? Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/

RE: Out of range sequence sets in SEARCH

2003-07-10 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On 10 Jul 2003, Timo Sirainen wrote: >On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 11:07, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >> This is exactly my point. How is the server to decide wether there is a >> bug in the client, or if the search was made in good faith because the >> client was slightly out of

RE: Out of range sequence sets in SEARCH

2003-07-10 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Mark Crispin wrote: >On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >> What if a client has not done any IDLE or NOOP or anything in 28 minutes, >> and in that time 100 messages have arrived and been expunged without the >That issue is addressed. See

RE: Out of range sequence sets in SEARCH

2003-07-10 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
anything in the client's behavior that deserves a BAD response? I'd have to say that the logical response from SEARCH is that the empty set of messages, since no message actually matched the criteria. Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen http://www.bincimap.org/

Re: These dang unsubscribe messages

2003-04-03 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
and so forth, you would _still_ see those "I want to unsubscribe" messages. :P Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen -- - For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/imap/imap-list.html -

re: Recent flag

2003-03-09 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
gets the \Recent flag. Only one can get it. :-) Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen

Re: Mairdir drag and drop

2003-03-08 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On 8 Mar 2003, Timo Sirainen wrote: >On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 19:47, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >specific lock file that no others use? That isn't very interoperable. The locks that one IMAP server uses should be of no interest for clients that are not of the same IMAP server. >

Re: Mairdir drag and drop

2003-03-08 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
P over Maildir without locking the depository during a scan. In that sense, I agree that Maildir is not suited for IMAP (or the other way around). No mailbox format that I have found is well suited for IMAP in that sense. Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen

Re: Attachment message flag

2003-03-04 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On 4 Mar 2003, Timo Sirainen wrote: >On Tue, 2003-03-04 at 21:16, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >> Again I have to ask for the motivations for this thread. I have a hunch, >> and correct me if I'm wrong: >Completely wrong, actually. I've been playing with Evolution&#x

Re: Attachment message flag

2003-03-04 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
benefits you gain in Dovecot from having the paperclip extension added to the IMAP protocol, are incredibly minor compared to what it does for the rest of the community, which in pracise is very little. Andy :-) -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen - Binc IMAP http://www.bincimap.andreas.hanssen.name/

Multiaccessing and APPEND

2003-02-22 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
a new message in his connection immediately after John sees the tagged OK? Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen - Binc IMAP http://www.bincimap.andreas.hanssen.name/ -- - For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http:

Re: Getting rid of the sequence numbers

2003-02-21 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
can display 30 messages, then the client should take the number of messages from the SELECT response, subtract 30, and do a FETCH N:* ... That means that no, a client must _not_ do a FETCH 1:* always. Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen - Binc IMAP http://www.bincimap.andreas.hanssen.name/

Re: Getting rid of the sequence numbers

2003-02-21 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
? Please enrichen this thread by instead of saying how you can't see any reason that sequence numbers are there, to explaining why you want them removed. Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen - Binc IMAP http://www.bincimap.andreas.hanssen.name/

Re: max. length for imap command

2003-01-30 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
http://www.washington.edu/imap/imap-list.html >------------- > > -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen - Binc IMAP http://www.bincimap.andreas.hanssen.name/

Re: Is "STORE x FLAGS ()" legal?

2003-01-28 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
Hi Cyrus, On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Cyrus Daboo wrote: >Hi Andreas, >--On Monday, January 27, 2003 7:36 PM +0100 Andreas Aardal Hanssen ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >|> What version of cyrus are you running? >|> Against our 2.1.11 server I have: >|> x store 1 flags ()

Re: Is "STORE x FLAGS ()" legal?

2003-01-27 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Mark Crispin wrote: >On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 20:04:14 +0100 (CET), Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >> The "updated flags" yes - so the unupdated flags need not be returned, no? >If an external entity changed flags (which is what is being discussed), then >

Re: Is "STORE x FLAGS ()" legal?

2003-01-27 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Mark Crispin wrote: >On Mon, 27 Jan 2003 19:36:38 +0100 (CET), Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >reduction in network traffic to the client, at a cost of loss of confirmation >to the client that anything was actually deleted and expunged. Then I think you don't

Re: Is "STORE x FLAGS ()" legal?

2003-01-27 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Rob Siemborski wrote: >On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >> OT, but why does the server return the FETCH update when no change has >> been made to the flags? >Well, first of all, it's quite possible that a change WAS made to the >fla

Re: Is "STORE x FLAGS ()" legal?

2003-01-27 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
;Note: regardless of whether or not the ".SILENT" suffix was used, the server SHOULD send an untagged FETCH response if a change to a message's flags from an external source is observed." Doesn't this imply that the server need not send the untagged FETCH if no change

Re: RENAME and imap compliance

2003-01-22 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Cyrus Daboo wrote: >Hi Andreas, >--On Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:58:39 PM +0100 Andreas Aardal Hanssen ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >the copy destination mailbox to determine the UIDs assigned to the copied >messages unless the server supports UIDPLU

Re: RENAME and imap compliance

2003-01-22 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: >Andreas Aardal Hanssen writes: >> What happens if the alternative UIDVALIDITY log file gets messed up? >If the server's persistent storage is messed up, every guarantee breaks. >One example among dozens: If the server's UIDNEX

Re: RENAME and imap compliance

2003-01-22 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Alexey Melnikov wrote: >Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >> >If they do need to grow, server would have to remember the last >> >UIDVALIDITY for deleted mailboxes, so RENAME could check if the >> >UIDVALIDITY must be changed. I don't like that b

Re: RENAME and imap compliance

2003-01-22 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Alexey Melnikov wrote: >I am taking this offline to clarify some stuff... >Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >> Which means that RENAME in practise will be _slower_ than >> create, copy, delete. >Please, explain how this follows. I wrote "Compliant

Re: RENAME and imap compliance

2003-01-22 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
be a problem in a single implementations. Several servers >derived from Cyrus don't have this issue. > >Alexey > > > -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen - Binc IMAP http://www.bincimap.andreas.hanssen.name/

Re: RENAME and imap compliance

2003-01-21 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Mark Crispin wrote: >In my humble opinion: >RENAME was a bad idea, and should be removed from the protocol. What is your advise to an author of an IMAP server that tries hard to be as compliant as possible? ;) Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen - Binc IMA

Re: RENAME and imap compliance

2003-01-19 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
unique UIDVALIDITY values is broken. All common IMAP servers that I know do this correctly. If the client does the "!=" test instead of the ">=" test, then it's a client that allows more than the RFC allows. I'm not quite sure of the implications of this, but I can not imagine why a client would use "!=" instead of ">=". Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen - Binc IMAP http://www.bincimap.andreas.hanssen.name/

Re: RENAME and imap compliance

2003-01-19 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On 20 Jan 2003, Timo Sirainen wrote: >On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 23:30, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >If there wasn't the requirement to grow, there would be no need to >remember any of the old UIDVALIDITY values, since they could never >conflict (with my previous plan). You agree

Re: RENAME and imap compliance

2003-01-19 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On 19 Jan 2003, Timo Sirainen wrote: >On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 22:28, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >> If you then delete A and rename B back to A, you will have a mailbox A >> that in the client's POV has _decreased_ its UIDVALIDITY. >Like I said, I don't see any re

Re: RENAME and imap compliance

2003-01-19 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
, but the UIDVALIDITY may be the same or lower. Or the message that the client earlier identified as 1:1 is now 1:5 (UIDVALIDITY:UID), and that's in breach with the protocol. Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen

RENAME and imap compliance

2003-01-19 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
insists on keeping UIDVALIDITY when a folder is renamed. Can the IMAP server bump UIDVALIDITY when a folder is renamed, and still be in 100% compliance with the RFC? Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen -- - For information about this

CRLF, Maildir etc..

2003-01-09 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
An old issue perhaps? But I couldn't find this in the archives. qmail saves messages using bare LFs. Should an IMAP server convert the mime data to CRLF? Should a client assume CRLF / bare LF mime content when fetching data from the server? Andy -- Andreas Aardal Ha

Re: UIDNEXT / UIDVALIDITY for unseen mailbox

2002-12-04 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Mark Crispin wrote: >On Wed, 4 Dec 2002 17:50:22 +0100 (CET), Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >> >* STATUS "new" (messages 3 uidnext 0 uidvalidity 0) >> So even if it isn't too clear _why_ a client would want to do this, it's >> obvio

Re: UIDNEXT / UIDVALIDITY for unseen mailbox

2002-12-04 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
way. Is it worth the effort for the STATUS command to parse and "uidify" a mailbox? Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen

Re: UIDNEXT / UIDVALIDITY for unseen mailbox

2002-12-04 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, David Harris wrote: >On 4 Dec 2002 at 8:15, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >> >> If someone does a STATUS on a mailbox that the IMAP server has not seen >> >> before - what is expected output for UIDNEXT and UIDVALIDITY? >> >I don't under

Re: UIDNEXT / UIDVALIDITY for unseen mailbox

2002-12-03 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
Hi, Mark. Sorry for being so unclear. On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Mark Crispin wrote: >On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >> If someone does a STATUS on a mailbox that the IMAP server has not seen >> before - what is expected output for UIDNEXT and UIDVALIDITY? >I don

UIDNEXT / UIDVALIDITY for unseen mailbox

2002-12-03 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
DNEXT == # of messages + 1, or UIDVALIDITY = 1 (obviously this is weird for servers that use time(NULL))? What practical use does a client have for checking UIDNEXT status? Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen -- - For information about

Re: allow plaintext password if localhost connection?

2002-11-28 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: >Andreas Aardal Hanssen writes: >> I'd rather turn the ball(?) around, and ask - why can't the localhost >> client use TLS or SSL like everyone else? I guess the obvious >> argument is that it wastes cycles and does

Re: allow plaintext password if localhost connection?

2002-11-28 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: >Andreas Aardal Hanssen writes: >> I'd rather turn the ball(?) around, and ask - why can't the localhost >> client use TLS or SSL like everyone else? I guess the obvious >> argument is that it wastes cycles and does

Re: allow plaintext password if localhost connection?

2002-11-27 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
uture, and for any platforms? My opinion is that it's a network service, and the protocol is secure. A non-TLS client is not a compliant client. So I'd hate to throw in a bunch of heuristics to check wether or not to require SSL/TLS. Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen

sequence set grammar in draft 20

2002-11-02 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
Or that the empty string qualifies as a valid sequence set? Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen -- - For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/imap/imap-list.html -

RE: to logout or not...

2002-10-09 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
NT, handler_func); > >Arnt> Sorry, no can do. > >Then you have a very exceptional environment that you are running in. >(Or just have no patience whatsoever.) > >I really think you're inventing a problem that doesn't exist. If the >client needs to shut down, it should just do a normal shutdown. It >can't control what the OS does in this regard, and should not waste any >time trying to second guess things it has no control over to begin with. > >--lyndon > -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen

Re: to logout or not...

2002-10-09 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
-- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/imap/imap-list.html >------------- > > -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen

Parser generators with the IMAP protocol

2002-08-30 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
Hi, Does anyone on this list have any experience with parser generators and the IMAP protocol? I know there are quite many conflicts, depending on auth mechanisms and semantics, but I still want to study this a bit. Any help appreciated. Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen

Re: Kerberos, safe solution?

2002-08-17 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
you will encrypt the session >using ssl or TLS. I think you've misunderstood.. I'm talking about server implementation of Kerberos. Have you implemented Kerberos before? Andy >Makes sense? >Authorization by imapd will be using pamd. >Murat > >Andreas Aardal Hanssen

Re: Kerberos, safe solution?

2002-08-16 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
le attack. > >You can use also TLS which will require a certificate as well. > > >Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: > >>Does anyone on this list have a safe way of providing kerberos >>authentication? >> >>I've thought of a couple of things: >> >>- st

Re: Need restict access to imap server and lock names for main mailfolders.

2002-08-16 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
Please, use only windows-1251 for cyrillic. > > >-- >- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/imap/imap-list.html >------------- > > -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen

Kerberos, safe solution?

2002-08-16 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
mands, etc etc - symmetric encryption, using private key owned by imap server / user Well, the obvious problem here is that the key can get compromized. Andy -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen -- - For information about this mailing

Re: Courier-imap?

2002-08-02 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >courier-imap assumes that this means that for any a:b, a must be <= b. And >it *rejects* any requests (searches, fetches) where b > a. This is a b < a, that is. :/ Andy >violation of the protocol, and the author will not fix

Re: Courier-imap?

2002-08-02 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Fri, 2 Aug 2002, LuKreme wrote: >Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >> Sadly, courier-IMAP is still not compliant, and the author has no >> intention of fixing it. >Do you have any more information on this? What exactly is non compliant >about it, etc. >Links are fine.

Re: Courier-imap?

2002-08-02 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
e, so I'm >looking for more recent info) > >-- >- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/imap/imap-list.html >------------- > > -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen

Re: Commands not available in certain states

2002-08-01 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote: >Andreas Aardal Hanssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>> many arrived since then, and it will also often give you a new EXISTS. >>>Which doesn't give me the UIDNEXT. >> Yes it does. >How? 1+UIDMAX doesn

Re: Commands not available in certain states

2002-08-01 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote: >Andreas Aardal Hanssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>should close it and then invoke STATUS UIDNEXT? >> If your whole session is opened only to check the status of a bunch of >> mailboxes, then yes, do not select an

Re: Commands not available in certain states

2002-08-01 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: > In addition to the universal commands (CAPABILITY, NOOP, and LOGOUT), > and the authenticated state commands (SELECT, EXAMINE, CREATE, > DELETE, RENAME, SUBSCRIBE, UNSUBSCRIBE, LIST, LSUB, STATUS, and > APPEND), the follow

Re: Commands not available in certain states

2002-08-01 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote: >Andreas Aardal Hanssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote: >>>a server where EXAMINE is faster than STATUS. >> Then don't select anything; just run status on all. And don

Re: Commands not available in certain states

2002-08-01 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote: >Andreas Aardal Hanssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> Andreas Aardal Hanssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>Well, UIDNEXT is not returned in the untagged responses retur

Re: Commands not available in certain states

2002-08-01 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote: Andreas Aardal Hanssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> You get UIDNEXT from the SELECT response, then NOOP, IDLE etc will give >> you status updates, so that you can find this number yourself. >Well, UIDNEXT is not returned in t

Re: Commands not available in certain states

2002-08-01 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Simon Josefsson wrote: >Andreas Aardal Hanssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Had you selected INBOX/KUN/employment when you sent the STATUS command? >Yes, I assume so, although that part of the protocol dump wasn't >provided by the user. ok &g

Re: Commands not available in certain states

2002-08-01 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
>117 OK LSUB completed >118 LSUB "" "*%" >118 OK LSUB completed >119 SELECT "INBOX" >119 BAD Server in unknown state for SELECT command > >Here it refuses to SELECT the INBOX too. > >Comments? > >-- >--------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/imap/imap-list.html >- > > -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen

RE: max+1:* fetches

2002-05-31 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Mark Crispin wrote: >On Fri, 31 May 2002 20:27:16 +0200 (CEST), Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >> >Courier violates IMAP in multiple ways. I long ago gave up any hope of >> >getting its author to fix these bugs; he has basically said that Courier >

RE: max+1:* fetches

2002-05-31 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
of a message sequence number, max+1:* is a syntax >error. Unlike UIDs, there is no legitimate reason for a client to send >max+1 for message sequence numbers because a client knows the value of *. Ok. >On Fri, 31 May 2002 16:34:42 +0200 (CEST), Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >> If th

RE: max+1:* fetches

2002-05-31 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
ly. ;) > >It says a:b means all the messages with MSNs/UIDs between a and b, >inclusive. That's clear. > >It does not require that aclear... more or less. Sometimes the non-requirement can be usefully >mentioned. > >--Arnt > -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen

RE: max+1:* fetches

2002-05-31 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
To: Alexey Melnikov >> Cc: Paul Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: max+1:* fetches >> >> >> Alexey Melnikov a écrit : >> > >> > Paul Smith wrote: >> > >> > > At 13:41 31/05/2002 +0200, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: &g

Re: max+1:* fetches

2002-05-31 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
interpret it to mean '20 messages from 10 onwards (ie 10->29 >inclusive)' or even something else. The RFC says "colon delimits between >two numbers inclusive." which doesn't seem like English to me, and is vague >about what those 'numbers' mean :-) ) > > >Paul VPOP3 - Internet Email Server/Gateway >[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.pscs.co.uk/ > > > -- Andreas Aardal Hanssen

Re: max+1:* fetches

2002-05-31 Thread Andreas Aardal Hanssen
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Alexey Melnikov wrote: >Paul Smith wrote: >> At 13:41 31/05/2002 +0200, Andreas Aardal Hanssen wrote: >> >Say a mailbox has 1000 messages in it, and the highest UID is 1600. Which >> >is the correct response? >> >1 UID FETCH 1601:* FLAGS &g

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