Hi,
as already threatened, I hereby open the vote on the pecl_http RFC.
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/pecl_http#vote
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There is zero reason to discuss what has been approved and
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On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
There is zero reason to discuss what has been approved and followed for
years already.
I will simply post the link to our CS as a reminder and ask
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Just because that most of the code YOU have seen uses CamelCase does not
mean that CamelCase is the standard. I programmed in other languages
for
over 20 years before I switched to PHP, and in those languages the
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Hi,
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Hello,
just one observation -
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On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote:
There is zero reason to discuss what has been approved and followed for
years already.
I will simply post the link to our CS as a reminder and ask everyone to
read it if they never did:
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Hi,
snip
Hello,
just one observation - would be the name of the classes
On 30/01/15 20:19, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
Hi!
Just because that most of the code YOU have seen uses CamelCase does not
mean that CamelCase is the standard. I programmed in other languages for
over 20 years before I switched to PHP, and in those languages the standard
was snake_case. That
Hi!
Just because that most of the code YOU have seen uses CamelCase does not
mean that CamelCase is the standard. I programmed in other languages for
over 20 years before I switched to PHP, and in those languages the standard
was snake_case. That is the standard I still use, and I will object
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Hi,
snip
Hello,
just one observation - would be the name of the classes and namespaces
stay the same after
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Hi,
snip
Hello,
just one observation - would be the name of the classes and namespaces
stay the same after
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
Hi,
Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on
August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add
pecl_http to the core. The vote will be open until about 12:00 UTC on
Friday,
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Hi,
snip
Hello,
just one observation - would be the name of the classes and namespaces
stay the same after
Hi Tony,
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Hi,
snip
Hello,
just
Hi,
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Matteo Beccati p...@beccati.com wrote:
Hi Andrey,
On 28/01/2015 23:50, Andrey Andreev wrote:
You're voting no because the FIG can't agree yet?
They've been discussing this for *at least* an year and iirc the first
PSR-7 coordinator gave up on it because
Hi,
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Matteo Beccati p...@beccati.com wrote:
Hi Andrey,
On 29/01/2015 10:41, Andrey Andreev wrote:
It's not about whether we like the FIG's direction or what PSR
stands for (which doesn't make sense btw) - that is indeed OT.
My message was different: the
Hi Andrey,
On 29/01/2015 10:41, Andrey Andreev wrote:
It's not about whether we like the FIG's direction or what PSR
stands for (which doesn't make sense btw) - that is indeed OT.
My message was different: the PHP RFC process can't get blocked
because of a third-party group, especially if your
2015-01-29 14:07 GMT+01:00 Pavel Kouřil pajou...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
Hi,
Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on
August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add
pecl_http to the
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
Hi,
Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on
August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add
pecl_http to the core. The vote will be open until about 12:00 UTC on
Friday, February
Hi,
Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on
August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add
pecl_http to the core. The vote will be open until about 12:00 UTC on
Friday, February 6th.
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/pecl_http#vote
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Hi!
Some feedback: I feel the RFC is not clear about the advantages and
disadvantages of including this package. Mostly, the RFC is hey I have
this package can we include it in core? I feel like it's fairly incomplete
Agreed. There needs to be some work done on explaining why we need to
On 28/01/2015 22:03, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
You could, in theory, have extension defining those interfaces and
autoload userland definitions only if the extension is not present.
That's basically what I meant. Thanks for clarifying.
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On 1/28/15 2:46 PM, Matteo Beccati wrote:
On 28/01/2015 20:19, Michael Wallner wrote:
On 28/01/15 20:07, Matteo Beccati wrote:
As Nikita mentions, PSR-7 is under way and currently gaining some
traction. At the moment the PSR-7 interfaces are designed to be
immutable, although I that's still
Hi!
Personally, I’ve never liked that PHP requires cURL for doing HTTP
requests. It’s a language made for the web, it should have built-in
I see no problem in depending on cURL. NIH'ing every part of the
software universe in unfeasible, and if somebody does this one job and
does it well - why
Hi!
Related to this: is it even possible for an internal class to rely on
and formally, explicitly “implement” a userland interface? It’s all
It's probably not a very good idea - internal classes are supposed to be
alive at the start of the request, but the userland interfaces can't be
there
Hi Stas,
On 28 Jan 2015, at 20:30, Stanislav Malyshev smalys...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
Personally, I’ve never liked that PHP requires cURL for doing HTTP
requests. It’s a language made for the web, it should have built-in
I see no problem in depending on cURL. NIH'ing every part of the
On 28/01/2015 20:19, Michael Wallner wrote:
On 28/01/15 20:07, Matteo Beccati wrote:
As Nikita mentions, PSR-7 is under way and currently gaining some
traction. At the moment the PSR-7 interfaces are designed to be
immutable, although I that's still open for debate. If the RFC passes,
we'd be
Hi!
As stated in one of the discussion threads, those dependencies could be
merged to main/ and/or ext/standard. In the current patch the persistent
This should be prominently part of the RFC, not buried in the threads.
Merging two extensions into ext/standard is not some tiny detail that
Hi Michael,
On 28 Jan 2015, at 19:48, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
On 28/01/15 20:18, Andrea Faulds wrote:
If the client is merely a wrapper around cURL, what benefit does it
offer over ext/curl except a better API?
Personally, I’ve never liked that PHP requires cURL for doing
On 28/01/15 21:32, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
Hi!
Some feedback: I feel the RFC is not clear about the advantages and
disadvantages of including this package. Mostly, the RFC is hey I have
this package can we include it in core? I feel like it's fairly incomplete
Agreed. There needs to be
Hey everyone,
On 28 Jan 2015, at 20:46, Matteo Beccati p...@beccati.com wrote:
Since PSR-7 is being discussed now *and* pecl_http can't implement an
interface that still is being discussed, I would rather vote no now and
maybe change my mind in future if PSR-7 becomes a thing and
Hi!
I explained that in another mail and will put it (amongst a lot of other
things that came up during this thread) into the RFC:
This is not enough. Saying ZE APIs suck, so I implemented a bunch of my
own and want to merge it in core because I like them is not enough to
make an informed
Hi,
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Matteo Beccati p...@beccati.com wrote:
On 28/01/2015 20:19, Michael Wallner wrote:
On 28/01/15 20:07, Matteo Beccati wrote:
As Nikita mentions, PSR-7 is under way and currently gaining some
traction. At the moment the PSR-7 interfaces are designed to be
On 28 January 2015 at 22:50, Andrey Andreev n...@devilix.net wrote:
You're voting no because the FIG can't agree yet?
They've been discussing this for *at least* an year and iirc the first
PSR-7 coordinator gave up on it because he no longer believed in the
end result. What does that tell us?
Hi Andrey,
On 28/01/2015 23:50, Andrey Andreev wrote:
You're voting no because the FIG can't agree yet?
They've been discussing this for *at least* an year and iirc the first
PSR-7 coordinator gave up on it because he no longer believed in the
end result. What does that tell us?
That some
Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on
August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add
pecl_http to the core. The vote will be open until about 12:00 UTC on
Friday, February 6th.
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/pecl_http#vote
I wish you had pinged
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Levi Morrison le...@php.net wrote:
Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on
August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add
pecl_http to the core. The vote will be open until about 12:00 UTC on
Friday, February 6th.
Hi Levi,
On 28 Jan 2015, at 17:53, Levi Morrison le...@php.net wrote:
Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on
August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add
pecl_http to the core. The vote will be open until about 12:00 UTC on
Friday,
Hi Levi,
On 28 Jan 2015, at 17:58, Levi Morrison le...@php.net wrote:
Oh, one more item: has anyone had time to review the pieces and how they
all interact, as well as reviewing the quality of each component? I should
hardly think in the time given this has been done. I'm not saying this
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
Hi,
Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on
August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add
pecl_http to the core. The vote will be open until about 12:00 UTC on
Friday,
On 28/01/15 18:58, Levi Morrison wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Levi Morrison le...@php.net
mailto:le...@php.net wrote:
Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on
August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add
On 28/01/15 19:08, Nikita Popov wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net
mailto:m...@php.net wrote:
Hi,
Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on
August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add
On 28/01/2015 13:17, Michael Wallner wrote:
Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on
August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add
pecl_http to the core. The vote will be open until about 12:00 UTC on
Friday, February 6th.
On 28/01/15 19:03, Andrea Faulds wrote:
Hi Levi,
On 28 Jan 2015, at 17:58, Levi Morrison le...@php.net wrote:
Oh, one more item: has anyone had time to review the pieces and how
they all interact, as well as reviewing the quality of each
component? I should hardly think in the time given
On 28/01/15 20:07, Matteo Beccati wrote:
On 28/01/2015 13:17, Michael Wallner wrote:
Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on
August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add
pecl_http to the core. The vote will be open until about 12:00 UTC on
Hi Michael,
On 28 Jan 2015, at 19:13, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
- Client
The http stream wrapper is a hack and the existing libcurl binding is
subpar. They could be improved separately, but that is not subject of
this RFC.
Currently only libcurl is implemented as a provider
On 28/01/15 20:18, Andrea Faulds wrote:
Hi Michael,
On 28 Jan 2015, at 19:13, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
- Client
The http stream wrapper is a hack and the existing libcurl binding
is subpar. They could be improved separately, but that is not
subject of this RFC.
Currently
On 28/01/15 19:19, Michael Wallner wrote:
Also, we're planning to move extensions from core to pecl, for example
ext/mysql which I is still widely used by many applications, despite its
known shortcomings. TBH, I don't see many reasons why a pecl extension
should be moved to core.
So that
I'll forward this to internals, Chris.
On 28/01/15 18:43, christopher jones wrote:
On 1/28/15 9:28 AM, Michael Wallner wrote:
On 28/01/15 18:22, christopher jones wrote:
On 1/28/15 9:17 AM, Michael Wallner wrote:
On 28/01/15 18:01, christopher jones wrote:
On 1/28/15 4:17 AM, Michael
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net wrote:
On 28/01/15 18:58, Levi Morrison wrote:
On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Levi Morrison le...@php.net
mailto:le...@php.net wrote:
Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed
on
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Michael Wallner m...@php.net
mailto:m...@php.net wrote:
On 28/01/15 18:58, Levi Morrison wrote:
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