or patent on
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ere. Made up number do not turn into facts simply by repetition.
Opinion has its place, and can be interesting, but not when purveyed as
supposedly statistically based fact.
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signatu
t alright :-)
Hummm... people who started with Basic and yet have become good
programmers in a number of languages must have great powers of recovery
and regeneration. This must mean they are either vampires or trolls ;-)
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own amusement.
Every programmer should study all the languages mentioned, and many
others including Go, D, Erlang, Prolog. No matter which language you
use day-to-day your programming is improved by knowing at a "can work in
this language" level many different language with different
com
think though that
> using examples like ATM machines is hardly going make students exited
> about programming.
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ople are on the wrong degree course. People who find
> programming to be something to avoid should not be on a CS course,
> simple as that. Worse, some (non-CS) degree courses are advertised as
> not containing any programming, and then actually do.
Far to many people on CS courses remain fai
ss, but it is a poor set of staff who end
up constraining themselves overly by the results. Curriculum should and
should be expected to evolve appropriately within the framework of the
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least fined. The patent system makes this otherwise criminal behaviour
a standard business model.
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w surely
blown out of the water.
At least to date the UK Patent Office has carefully vetted most patent
applications for "obviousness" and "prior art". As with any system some
dross slips through. The EU Patent Office is seemingly less careful and
more in the pockets of &quo
nt game.
But then I am not a lawyer.
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ly a bigger seat at high
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1860--1914 period.
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comment. Please note the smiley in this remark.
Humour is required in life, otherwise it all gets too serious.
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Your assertion appears to have only contrary evidence given the number
of new clients I have requesting Java ME training as they are creating
new products for Java ME platforms.
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de, and especially
comments, like Emacs can. So what everyone needs for writing code is a
kitchen sink.
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On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 12:53 -0800, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Russel Winder
> wrote:
> I still have the problem that no IDE can format code, and
> especially
> comments, like Emacs can.
>
> I'll t
enerally separately from a compiler!) an AST from text so as to add
all the interaction capabilities. So the real question is why do we as
a community continue to require that a text form of software be the form
that is stored on disc?
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e the Oracle purchase), are discriminating against Linux and
Solaris (!) and for Windows and Mac OS X.
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On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 00:06 -0800, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Russel Winder
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Indeed configuring Eclipse, IntelliJ IDEA and NetBeans seems
> to be a
> mammoth task
ST to handle colouring, Emacs uses
regular expressions and keyword matching.
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, and which often
mask all the really important features that people would find very
helpful if they did use them.
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hat I was saying.
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utesy kittens.
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m by writing apps for them.
But it's Catch-22 isn't it. Because the Apple products have become
"must have" for the fashion conscious, someone will write the apps even
if it isn't you. Apple always win.
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ould just ask
Kohsuke.
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>
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e is therefore determined by being a
man trying to look like a woman.
Of course heart attacks are caused by televisions -- this is provable
statistically.
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heart attacks, and increased population leads to increased ownership of
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are right about "operational semantics" so we agree that far too
many current courses are in general failing their students by given that
just the surface and not given them the full model to understand how the
JVM or CLR work.
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On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 17:54 +0100, Fabrizio Giudici wrote:
> On 12/14/2010 04:41 PM, Russel Winder wrote:
> >
> >> Programmers would be better trained if the first language they're taught
> >> is a traditional that compiles into native code, such as C. You kno
ered at least two languages. Also this
procedural/OO split is the wrong way of doing things, it creates
artificial barriers in the minds of the students.
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y multi-threading
is a good thing for all applications development? The fact that they
have got away with not really knowing how to work with threads properly
has been a fluke.
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is proposed to not to be in Java 7.
So campaign to get Parallel Arrays into Java 7.
In the meantime you can use GPars (http://gpars.codehaus.org) which can
be used direct from Java even though it is a Groovy-based system.
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all these nice parallelism goodies today -- without having to wait
for the (potentially mythical :-) Java 7.
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up using list comprehensions by choice simply
because it is presented as the imperative, data-driven way.
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problems Java
has when it comes to priming the JVM JIT, yet no Scala advocate has yet
been able to provide me with a good rationale as to why.
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ou are using.
What is your evidence/data/argument that Bazaar is substandard compared
to Git and Mercurial?
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create instant legacy systems. The whole VM/configuration/profile + JSR
mess might have been a good move in 1998, but . . .
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o the multiprocessors they already have.
And 3-D holographic screens will be mandatory.
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didn't get the original reference to tablet . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tablet_(confectionery)
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an improvement evolution of CVCS, even for proprietary software
not just FOSS (for which DVCS should now be considered mandatory).
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the core benefit it from cross equivalence class fertilization.
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computation stuff will still be done in Fortran and
C++. If you are happy to exclude practicing your software development
activity in those areas then restricting yourself to the JVM is fine.
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e observation is
that Java is not in the frame for these rewrites which is why Python has
become the dynamic language of choice: it's all native code, so no place
for a JVM.
However, I digress . . . ;-)
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about it.
It's all about the serendipity as much as hard work, which is why
knowing functional programming and logic programming properly helps your
imperative programming.
To get back on topic . . . :-)
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parallel, computing has hijacked this term with a subtly different
meaning :-)
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hem then you are in the
game, if you don't you aren't. Lone inventors are not in the game.
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Cédric,
On Tue, 2011-03-08 at 07:18 -0800, Cédric Beust ♔ wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Russel Winder
> wrote:
>
>
> OK so let's have a data point. Exhibit A.
> http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=26aJE
ng appropriate tools. ACTA is though a monster too far -- exactly
because it has far more to it than the originally intended brand
protection.
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etorical
question that leads to conspiracy theories. Sadly though the
conspiracies are genuine :-(
And then there is ACTA.
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GSM cartel. Does OPEC count?
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elliJ IDEA already has some support for Gradle
files.
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r than having to build a special plugin. So you never
have to get into writing plugins -- unless that is actually the right
thing to do.
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t hold
of course.
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signa
oop twice now, I
wouldn't choose any other mechanism.
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at they are talking about. It is also true that there are
people teaching programming who are far, far, far better programmers
than anyone in industry and commerce -- bar none.
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the final victory of the
Paradigm Wars. Looks like something analogous is happening in the USA.
Did you fight in the Paradigm Wars?
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onics engineers, because they thought C++ was too airy
fairy -- classes, that not real code.
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digm of
exactly what he was putting forward as science.
>
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ur of some
doublethink about function call being equivalent to message passing.
Long live active objects! Pool-T, UC++, KC++ rule . . .
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but if I were to do it again, I would probably do it differently, more
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of doing things. A return to a better
way or just backward looking?
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ten in when running on the
JVM, only what happens in the future.
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re than just a
Groovy wrapper to those Java frameworks.
> project. Are any of them the new big foss thing? For some people yes,
> for others no.
>
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ems. But
from very different locations -- antipodes almost ;-)
>
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ild that really needs to be fixed.
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later (enum's, annotation etc.), lately it's dynamic language support,
> automatic resource management, lambda expressions etc.
So will Oracle remove type erasure so that full type information is
available at runtime?
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uately explained by
incompetence."
may be appropriate in this situation.
>
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On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 13:18 +0200, Fabrizio Giudici wrote:
> On 05/10/2011 12:40 PM, Russel Winder wrote:
> >
> > I think:
> >
> > "Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by
> > incompetence."
> >
> > may be appropriate in
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superiority is not a guarantee
of commercial success.
And then there was U-matic.
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what Oracle are doing with it . . .
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> On 25 Mai, 11:49, Russel Winder wrote:
> > I assume that EMV and other smartcards are still being programmed in
> > either C, EC++ or Java Card. Given the increasing importance of smart
> > cards in the wor
lly over the years.
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d and fully
compiled, and Java because most of the extant infrastructure is written
in that language.
Why do we have to have just one language?
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, but interesting to me) techniques are
lost. Groovy++ is just a phase of programming that sits between the
chaos that is Groovy and the verbose restriction that is Java.
This is not a black/white issue, it's all a question of what level of
grey you want.
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other fragment of this thread.
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, etc., it works surprisingly well as a counterpoint to Ocean
Sans.
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kes TestNG redundant!
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or example 400 of them meet every
year in Oxford in April. It's called the ACCU conference and I would
back them as far better programmers than nigh on everyone on this
list.
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lipse/Groovy/PyDev/Scala much of the time as it is readable and
just about does the job. I use IntelliJ IDEA when I have to. Most of
the time I use Emacs + command line. The only loss is the integration
with the API documentation -- which is about the only really useful
thing that IDEs provide.
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have. I agree though that few languages that claim to have
properly supported parameterized types do.
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come out winners. As indeed will Microsoft, just by
sitting on the sidelines and cheering. HTC will have to make sure they
come out not losers.
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sn't even appear on
http://openjdk.java.net/projects/jdk7/features/ not even as an item for
JDK 8 or later.
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have to do what the
Chinese want them to, when they want them to.
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