Re: [JAWS-Users] strange announcement only in outlook and the folder structure

[Annette Carr]

I have only been hearing the "Setting keyboard to U.S." message for the past
week on only my Work laptop.  It is random and has happened at various times
when using Outlook 2010.  I do not think that I heard it when using the
Outlook Control+y, and I use that command all day long.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:08 AM
To: 'jaws-users'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] strange announcement only in outlook and the folder
structure

This issue has gone on for about a year now and it really doesn't bug me,
but after  a year of the same thing happening, one begins to wonder.

When I do CTRL y for the folder list in outlook 2013 in this case, it says
setting keyboard to US.

It only says that there and I haven't noticed it anywhere, what prey tell
yall think is happening and what is the fix? Fwiw, I'm using jfw 16 45o.

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[JAWS-Users] strange announcement only in outlook and the folder structure

[Kimsan]

This issue has gone on for about a year now and it really doesn't bug me,
but after  a year of the same thing happening, one begins to wonder.

When I do CTRL y for the folder list in outlook 2013 in this case, it says
setting keyboard to US.

It only says that there and I haven't noticed it anywhere, what prey tell
yall think is happening and what is the fix? Fwiw, I'm using jfw 16 45o.

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[JAWS-Users] the Edge?

[randy tijerina]

ok folksi'm seriously thinking of checking out this here new 
browser..the Edge.

you guys think it's more accessible? or...secure?
can I do windows updates from this?


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[JAWS-Users] downloading windows 10

[petras]

Hi, how can I usdate the updated version of windows 10? I hit 
slow logon problems.


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[JAWS-Users] where do I find block quotes in jaws 17?

[Jim Rawls]

   Z  I want to change the default setting. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[jim]

Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to 
w-10.
Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a 
smooth upgrade experience.

*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version 
depending on what system you have.

Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a 
verification email.

Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all 
the latest updates.

Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files 
and so on from your system.

Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your 
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself 
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, 
check the yes and press enter on next.

Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to 
complete.

After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the 
desktop.

very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with 
all your settings, except for 2 of them.

Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring
the windows 10 and jaws list, is no.
Al
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Dacia Cole
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi,

I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10.
I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to
windows 10 today.
One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive?
Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10?
I'm currently using windows 8.1 with  JAWS 16 on a Lenovo
laptop.

thanks,

Dacia

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Re: [JAWS-Users] getting past the jawiths home use window

[valiant8086]

Hi.

This is no different than previous versions, you can't tab around in the 
jaws window like you can with window-eyes and cobra and narrator.


In the jaws home use window, use the alt key to go to the menu bar. You 
should be able to get the options menu from there. Likely it'll be the 
first menu you get, so you ought to be able to press alt, and then press 
enter to open the options menu. Is this what you're looking for?



Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community 
http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable

On 9/20/2015 7:05 PM, petras wrote:
Hi, I am having trouble accessing the jaws options after the latest 
windows build.  When I click on jaws,  it takes me to "Jaws home use 
edition and when I tab, I get nothing.  I naeed help!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[Alan Robbins]

Jim,

Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by
Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more
coffee (smile)

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
jim
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16
after upgrading to w-10.
Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend
following them for a smooth upgrade experience.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi
ndows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your
download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder
for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or
32 bit version depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for
future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification
area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this
gives you a verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure
you have all the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws
fragmented files and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your
computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending
on your download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several
screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready
for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the
license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by
itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60
minutes to complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on
narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on
talking on the desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come
on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring
the windows 10 and jaws list, is no.
Al
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Dacia Cole
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi,

I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10.
I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to
windows 10 today.
One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive?
Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10?
I'm currently using windows 8.1 with  JAWS 16 on a Lenovo
laptop.

thanks,

Dacia

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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[Kevin]

don't think you need to backup unless you want to make certain everything 
will be the same if you have to revert.

your computer will automatically save a copy of your previous windows system
here are steps you can do if you want to revert

To roll back to your previous windows , do the following. Go to control 
panel. In control panel go to the recovery option. At this point, use 
narrator since this area of windows 10 does not work with any screen readers 
including JAWS. Then use caps lock+right arrow to find the go back to 
windows 7 option. Press it. You will get a getting things ready screen, and 
then a  confirmation of what you're about to do. Press the okay button. At 
this point, you will get a screen which says restoring windows, with no 
speech available. Just wait until you here the windows startup sound. Note: 
this option is only available a month after you upgrade to windows 10. Also, 
upgrading to an insider build and/or running defragment and optimize drives 
will delete the necessary files for the rollback to windows 7.


-Original Message- 
From: Dacia Cole

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Yes,

Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful.  I
plan to upgrade soon.  The part of my question that didn't get
answered is how to do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on
to my external hardrive in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose
things?  I don't anticipate that, but you know how computers can be.
(smiles)

thanks,

Dacia

On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins  wrote:

Jim,

Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by
Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more
coffee (smile)

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
jim
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16
after upgrading to w-10.
Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend
following them for a smooth upgrade experience.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi
ndows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your
download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder
for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or
32 bit version depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for
future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification
area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this
gives you a verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure
you have all the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws
fragmented files and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your
computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending
on your download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several
screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready
for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the
license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by
itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60
minutes to complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on
narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on
talking on the desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come
on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

The answer to question #2, from my 

Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Jim,

Your information is incorrect.

Since he is using Windows 8.1, he only need download and install the latest 
version of Jaws 16, then install Windows 10.


No need to re-install Jaws 16 once the Windows 10 is complete, as it should 
come up working after the installation.


You're thinking about Windows 7, of which he is not using.

Hope this helps.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to
w-10.
Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a
smooth upgrade experience.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring
the windows 10 and jaws list, is no.
Al
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Dacia Cole
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi,

I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10.
I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to
windows 10 today.
One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive?
Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10?
I'm currently using windows 8.1 with  JAWS 16 on a Lenovo
laptop.

thanks,

Dacia

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visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Dacia,

Windows has a fairly good back-up utility that is very reliable.  You can 
choose to make a back-up of your files, settings, or a complete image 
back-up of your computer, including operating system, settings, files and 
apps.


There's a web page that gives you step by step instructions on how to do 
this below.


Hope this helps.

http://www.windowscentral.com/how-make-full-backup-windows-pc

Scorpio



-Original Message- 
From: Dacia Cole

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Yes,

Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful.  I
plan to upgrade soon.  The part of my question that didn't get
answered is how to do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on
to my external hardrive in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose
things?  I don't anticipate that, but you know how computers can be.
(smiles)

thanks,

Dacia

On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins  wrote:

Jim,

Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by
Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more
coffee (smile)

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
jim
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16
after upgrading to w-10.
Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend
following them for a smooth upgrade experience.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi
ndows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your
download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder
for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or
32 bit version depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for
future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification
area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this
gives you a verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure
you have all the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws
fragmented files and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your
computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending
on your download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several
screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready
for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the
license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by
itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60
minutes to complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on
narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on
talking on the desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come
on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring
the windows 10 and jaws list, is no.
Al
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Dacia Cole
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi,

I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10.
I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to
windows 10 today.
One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive?
Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10?
I'm currently using windows 8.1 with  JAWS 16 on a Lenovo
laptop.

thanks,

Dacia

Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 7 security center

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Kevin,

No, it did not work, though I could have sworn I posted that to the list, 
but thank you very much for your help.


Not sure if you saw my detailed account of how I managed to Install Windows 
10, but I basically had to shut down a number of background applications I 
had running in order to make sure that the download/installation could go 
through as it was supposed to.  I also shut down my anti-virus/malware 
altogether, as opposed to simply shutting down the active monitoring.


I also took the added precaution of disconnecting any peripherals I had 
connected to the computer, making sure that it wasn't a possible hardware 
conflict.


Having said that, I did manage to figure out that the SoundBlaster sound 
card I had initially thought was the problem wa snot after all.


I still managed to install the Windows 10 upgrade despite it still being 
installed on my system, so I've deduced it was a software issue all along.


If you have any questions, or if you need me to re-post my message that 
detailed what I did, let me know, and I'll send it to you off list so as not 
to place a second copy on the Jaws-users server.


Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 7 security center

   scorpio I'm kind of interested, that fix I gave you for your win 7
updates did your updates start working again?

-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio Forever

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Jim,

Your information is incorrect.

Since he is using Windows 8.1, he only need download and install the latest
version of Jaws 16, then install Windows 10.

No need to re-install Jaws 16 once the Windows 10 is complete, as it should
come up working after the installation.

You're thinking about Windows 7, of which he is not using.

Hope this helps.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to
w-10.
Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a
smooth upgrade experience.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM
To: 

[JAWS-Users] Notice the following with research it.;

[Ron Kolesar]

How come there's no NFL in the research it?
I miss that.
Many Thanks.
Ron who's happy with today's Pittsburgh Steelers win over the 49'ers. 
SMILES.How come the NFL ising


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[JAWS-Users] getting past the jawiths home use window

[petras]

Hi, I am having trouble accessing the jaws options after the 
latest windows build.  When I click on jaws,  it takes me to 
"Jaws home use edition and when I tab, I get nothing.  I naeed 
help!


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[Jim Rawls]

I found out how to change it. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] EXPORTING CONTACTS FROM OUTLOOK 2010

[Pinky]

Hi,
So would I use the pst file.  The most commonly used option here would be
comma Separated Values (Windows). Would I use this file to import my contact
into say Outlook or WLM. Or would I need another file to import my contact
into WLM?

Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John Justice
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:14 PM
To: Jaws Users E-mail List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] EXPORTING CONTACTS FROM OUTLOOK 2010

One of the members requested the procedure for exporting contacts from
Outlook 2010.  I apologize for the delayed response.

 

EXPORTING CONTACTS FROM OUTLOOK 2010

 

1.Press ALT+F for the File menu.

2.   Locate the Options menu and press Enter to open it.

3.   Down arrow to Advanced.

4.   Tab to Export and press spacebar to open the menu.

5.   Use the Jaws cursor to locate the Export options.  Choose Export a
file then press spacebar on Next to confirm.

6.   Under Create a File of type, choose what type of file you want to
use
NOTE:  Outlook uses a specific file type for direct transfer of contacts.
That is a .pst file.  The most commonly used option here would be comma
Separated Values (Windows).  There is also a file type called Tab Separated
Values, (Windows).  Press spacebar on Next to confirm.

7.   Select Contacts folder to export from and press spacebar on Next to
confirm.

8.   Under Save Exported file as, choose Browse and select destination
folder.  In the File Name box, enter a name.

9.   Locate the Okay button and press Enter.

10.   Press spacebar on Next.

11.   Press spacebar on Finish.

 

HTH 

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

PERSONAL E-MAIL:  john_just...@verizon.net

 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[Dacia Cole]

Yes,

Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful.  I
plan to upgrade soon.  The part of my question that didn't get
answered is how to do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on
to my external hardrive in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose
things?  I don't anticipate that, but you know how computers can be.
(smiles)

thanks,

Dacia

On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins  wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by
> Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more
> coffee (smile)
>
> Best,
> Al
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List
> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
> jim
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
>
> Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16
> after upgrading to w-10.
> Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend
> following them for a smooth upgrade experience.
> *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
> go to:
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi
> ndows10Upgrade
> Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your
> download folder.
> Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder
> for future use.
> Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
> On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or
> 32 bit version depending on what system you have.
> Download the tool and save it to your download folder for
> future use.
> Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
> Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
> press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification
> area.
> go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this
> gives you a verification email.
> Now, restart your computer.
> check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure
> you have all the latest updates.
> Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
> Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws
> fragmented files and so on from your system.
> Run the media creation tool.
> yes, for your users account warning.
> Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
> you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
> Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your
> computer.
> This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending
> on your download speed.
> When it is done downloading, it will go through several
> screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready
> for windows 10.
> Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the
> license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next.
> Again, the program will run through several screens by
> itself.
> Next, press enter on install.
> now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60
> minutes to complete.
> After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on
> narrator.
> Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
> Almost done.
> press the next button.
> choose express settings.
> press the next button.
> if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on
> talking on the desktop.
> very important, uninstall jaws.
> Keep shared settings and personal settings.
> Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come
> on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
> Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
> Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
> For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
> Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Robbins
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
>
> The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring
> the windows 10 and jaws list, is no.
> Al
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List
> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
> Dacia Cole
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10.
> I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to
> windows 10 today.
> One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive?
> Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10?
> I'm currently using windows 8.1 with  JAWS 16 on a Lenovo
> laptop.
>
> thanks,
>
> Dacia
>
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> visit:
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>
>
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>
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[JAWS-Users] windows 7 security center

[Kevin]

   scorpio I'm kind of interested, that fix I gave you for your win 7 
updates did your updates start working again?


-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio Forever

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Jim,

Your information is incorrect.

Since he is using Windows 8.1, he only need download and install the latest
version of Jaws 16, then install Windows 10.

No need to re-install Jaws 16 once the Windows 10 is complete, as it should
come up working after the installation.

You're thinking about Windows 7, of which he is not using.

Hope this helps.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to
w-10.
Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a
smooth upgrade experience.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring
the windows 10 and jaws list, is no.
Al
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Dacia Cole
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi,

I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10.
I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to
windows 10 today.
One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive?
Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10?
I'm currently using windows 8.1 with  JAWS 16 on a Lenovo
laptop.

thanks,

Dacia

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Smart Navigation: How much do you understand?

[Neil Towery]

Thanks for this very clear explanation. Alleluia. Neil 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of valiant8086
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 10:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Smart Navigation: How much do you understand?

Hi.
If you don't use smart navigation, everything behaves as before. Say word,
Say Character are not quick navigation keys, but those two are the ones
affected by smart navigation, when smart navigation is in affect, these keys
require two quick presses to allow you to navigate the text character by
character or word by word. This is because the arrow keys otherwise navigate
by element, so one press of right arrow for instance might go to a link, or
perhaps a button, you won't be able to use arrow keys to spell the name of
the button for instance if you don't understand what it says unless you do
sayCharacter keystroke twice quickly, thereafter the arrow keys will read
the name of the button character by character as you'd expect.

Remember, smart navigation is off by default anyway, and that only really
affects sayWord and sayCharacter keystrokes. They do recommend however that
you use semi auto forms mode or manual, because navigation quick keys like h
won't work very well if you have smart navigation on, and fully auto forms
mode, because if you arrow onto an edit box it will enable forms mode, then
if you try to use h it'll just type h in the box instead of going to next
heading, and you won't be able to get out of the box with arrow keys I
suspect (not verified) until you hit escape.

Navigation quick keys really are not affected in any way by smart
navigation, but the auto forms mode setting remains with the same 3 options
as in jaws 16. If you leave smart navigation off jaws will behave exactly as
it did in version 16 when it comes to web pages in every way to the best of
my knowledge.

Also, yes, smart navigation will be new to JAWS 17.


Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates Developing
"very good audiogames" for the blind community http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent
with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable On 9/19/2015 5:17 PM, Neil Towery wrote:
>   I changed the subject line to reflect your question concerning how 
> much we understand.
>   Doesn't look like the current smart navigation. Did not notice that 
> striking certain keys, such as H, would jump from heading  to heading.
>   Looks like we have to do three keystrokes to get the same thing we 
> now get with one keystroke.
>   They are talking about doing the keystrokes twice quickly.
>   Where is the option to have it like it is in windows 7?
> Neil
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of inamuddin khan
> Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 3:09 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Smart Navigation
>
> Respected friend, here is the detail of smart navigation of jaws 17.
> Read and let me know how much have you understood!
> Smart Navigation, More Efficient Interaction with Complex Web Pages 
> and Applications Today and in the future, users will be faced with an 
> increased need to work with complex web forms, tables, and even 
> applications that run inside of a web browser. This will impact your 
> day to day interactions with services on-line such as banking and 
> shopping, in addition to many web apps found in both companies and 
> government agencies. For instance, Internet Explorer can be used to 
> log onto a Microsoft SharePoint server to collaborate with other 
> co-workers and create and store documents. The new Smart Navigation 
> feature is designed to make it more efficient when navigating 
> web-based applications with the Virtual Cursor as the LEFT and RIGHT 
> ARROW or CTRL+LEFT and
> CTRL+RIGHT ARROW commands move by control instead of character and word.
> This makes navigation such as moving across toolbars, tab strips, and 
> navigation links more like navigating around a desktop application. 
> Pressing the Say Character, Say Word, or Say Line commands twice 
> quickly changes to the traditional navigation by character, word, 
> line, sentence, and paragraph so you can review the text of the 
> control. Smart Navigation resumes when you press ESC, or move to a 
> different control by pressing UP or DOWN ARROW or TAB.
>
> For example, if you use the LEFT and RIGHT ARROW keys to move across a 
> tab strip, you might hear JAWS announce something like; "Home tab
selected,"
> "Insert tab," and "Page Layout tab." If you wanted to review the items 
> on the tab strip character by character, press the Say Character (NUM 
> PAD 5), Say Word (INSERT+NUM PAD 5), or Say Line (INSERT+UP ARROW) 
> commands twice quickly. You can now navigate by character or word 
> until you press DOWN ARROW to move away from the tab strip to another
control.
>
> Smart Navigation is off 

Re: [JAWS-Users] strange announcement only in outlook and the folder structure

[Kurt Miller]

In 2010 it says "Go to folder dialog. Treeview."

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] strange announcement only in outlook and the
folder structure

I have only been hearing the "Setting keyboard to U.S." message for the past
week on only my Work laptop.  It is random and has happened at various times
when using Outlook 2010.  I do not think that I heard it when using the
Outlook Control+y, and I use that command all day long.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:08 AM
To: 'jaws-users'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] strange announcement only in outlook and the folder
structure

This issue has gone on for about a year now and it really doesn't bug me,
but after  a year of the same thing happening, one begins to wonder.

When I do CTRL y for the folder list in outlook 2013 in this case, it says
setting keyboard to US.

It only says that there and I haven't noticed it anywhere, what prey tell
yall think is happening and what is the fix? Fwiw, I'm using jfw 16 45o.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

[jim]

Hi Deb,
Personally, I recommend using the Microsoft creation tool.
The way of using Microsoft windows update, can be troublesome for Jaws.
I do not use that way, so I can not say for sure, if my instructions will 
work with that way of upgrading.
If you want an easier, and more pleasant experience while upgrading, I 
highly, recommend using the Microsoft creation tool, and following my steps.
I have personally, upgraded 4 computers from beginning to end, using the 
Microsoft creation tool.

I have assisted on many more w-10 upgrades.
If it were me, I would not try using the Windows update way of upgrading to 
w-10, its too hard to follow along with Jaws.

Thank you, have a nice day...

-Original Message- 
From: Deb Caldbeck

Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 9:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

Windows 10 has downloaded itself to my computer.  Do I use the same
procedure?

Deb Caldbeck

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 6:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

Hi Howard,
Yes, I would reinstall Jaws 17 after upgrading to w-10.
Just in case you need some reminders of upgrading to windows 10.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message-
From: hwolcott
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 3:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

hi desyree:
thanks for the response.
I'll keep that in mind.
will be upgrading sometime on monday.


howard wolcott

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Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 2:54 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10


yes and you may see an issue with the jaws pc cursor not working
correctly in some cases. this has been reported to freedom scientific
as a bug in jaws 17.

On 9/19/2015 10:18 AM, hwolcott wrote:

hi list:
I know when upgrading from win7 to win10, you must uninstall and then
reinstall jaws 16.
does the same procedure have to be followed for jaw 17 public beta?
thanks in advance for any advice.


howard wolcott
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Smart Navigation: How much do you understand?

[valiant8086]

Hi.
If you don't use smart navigation, everything behaves as before. Say 
word, Say Character are not quick navigation keys, but those two are the 
ones affected by smart navigation, when smart navigation is in affect, 
these keys require two quick presses to allow you to navigate the text 
character by character or word by word. This is because the arrow keys 
otherwise navigate by element, so one press of right arrow for instance 
might go to a link, or perhaps a button, you won't be able to use arrow 
keys to spell the name of the button for instance if you don't 
understand what it says unless you do sayCharacter keystroke twice 
quickly, thereafter the arrow keys will read the name of the button 
character by character as you'd expect.


Remember, smart navigation is off by default anyway, and that only 
really affects sayWord and sayCharacter keystrokes. They do recommend 
however that you use semi auto forms mode or manual, because navigation 
quick keys like h won't work very well if you have smart navigation on, 
and fully auto forms mode, because if you arrow onto an edit box it will 
enable forms mode, then if you try to use h it'll just type h in the box 
instead of going to next heading, and you won't be able to get out of 
the box with arrow keys I suspect (not verified) until you hit escape.


Navigation quick keys really are not affected in any way by smart 
navigation, but the auto forms mode setting remains with the same 3 
options as in jaws 16. If you leave smart navigation off jaws will 
behave exactly as it did in version 16 when it comes to web pages in 
every way to the best of my knowledge.


Also, yes, smart navigation will be new to JAWS 17.


Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community 
http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable

On 9/19/2015 5:17 PM, Neil Towery wrote:

  I changed the subject line to reflect your question concerning how much we
understand.
  Doesn't look like the current smart navigation. Did not notice that
striking certain keys, such as H, would jump from heading  to heading.
  Looks like we have to do three keystrokes to get the same thing we now get
with one keystroke.
  They are talking about doing the keystrokes twice quickly.
  Where is the option to have it like it is in windows 7?
Neil


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of inamuddin khan
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 3:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Smart Navigation

Respected friend, here is the detail of smart navigation of jaws 17.
Read and let me know how much have you understood!
Smart Navigation, More Efficient Interaction with Complex Web Pages and
Applications Today and in the future, users will be faced with an increased
need to work with complex web forms, tables, and even applications that run
inside of a web browser. This will impact your day to day interactions with
services on-line such as banking and shopping, in addition to many web apps
found in both companies and government agencies. For instance, Internet
Explorer can be used to log onto a Microsoft SharePoint server to
collaborate with other co-workers and create and store documents. The new
Smart Navigation feature is designed to make it more efficient when
navigating web-based applications with the Virtual Cursor as the LEFT and
RIGHT ARROW or CTRL+LEFT and
CTRL+RIGHT ARROW commands move by control instead of character and word.
This makes navigation such as moving across toolbars, tab strips, and
navigation links more like navigating around a desktop application. Pressing
the Say Character, Say Word, or Say Line commands twice quickly changes to
the traditional navigation by character, word, line, sentence, and paragraph
so you can review the text of the control. Smart Navigation resumes when you
press ESC, or move to a different control by pressing UP or DOWN ARROW or
TAB.

For example, if you use the LEFT and RIGHT ARROW keys to move across a tab
strip, you might hear JAWS announce something like; "Home tab selected,"
"Insert tab," and "Page Layout tab." If you wanted to review the items on
the tab strip character by character, press the Say Character (NUM PAD 5),
Say Word (INSERT+NUM PAD 5), or Say Line (INSERT+UP ARROW) commands twice
quickly. You can now navigate by character or word until you press DOWN
ARROW to move away from the tab strip to another control.

Smart Navigation is off by default. To turn it on, do the following:

Press INSERT+F2, select Settings Center, and press ENTER.
Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to open the default settings file if you want to use
Smart Navigation in all web browsers, or open the Internet Explorer or
Firefox settings file.
Type "smart navigation" without the quotes into the Search edit box.
Press DOWN ARROW to move to Smart Navigation in the filtered results of the
Settings 

[JAWS-Users] Trying to put English ResearchIt items in Spanidsh Jaws?

[Gerardo Corripio]

 HI guys
Is it somehow possible to place several English ResearchIt items into 
Spanish Jaws16? I'd like to have Amazon Search, Bookshare Search, CNet, 
Reuters, Underground. Thanks for any info.


--
Enviado desde mi lap
Gerardo J Corripio Flores Psicólogo, Terapéuta Reiki
Saludos desde Tampico, Tamaulipas México


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Re: [JAWS-Users] strange announcement only in outlook and the folder structure

[Daniel]

Hello,
In Microsoft office 2013 JAWS says, "Go to Folder Dialog, Tree View, just
like in Microsoft office 2010. Go to your language settings and make sure
English United States is set as your default language.
Daniel

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 9:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] strange announcement only in outlook and the
folder structure

In 2010 it says "Go to folder dialog. Tree view."

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] strange announcement only in outlook and the
folder structure

I have only been hearing the "Setting keyboard to U.S." message for the past
week on only my Work laptop.  It is random and has happened at various times
when using Outlook 2010.  I do not think that I heard it when using the
Outlook Control+y, and I use that command all day long.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:08 AM
To: 'jaws-users'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] strange announcement only in outlook and the folder
structure

This issue has gone on for about a year now and it really doesn't bug me,
but after  a year of the same thing happening, one begins to wonder.

When I do CTRL y for the folder list in outlook 2013 in this case, it says
setting keyboard to US.

It only says that there and I haven't noticed it anywhere, what prey tell
yall think is happening and what is the fix? Fwiw, I'm using JFW16 45o.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Uninstalling jaws....16 and 17

[valiant8086]

Hi.
The easiest way to shutdown a computer typically is to go to the desktop 
with windows key+m, and press alt+f4 from there. This applies from 
pretty much any version of windows to my knowledge. Actually, there is 
an even easier way, hit the power button ( don't hold it in). Of course, 
that method depends on what the power button is set to do in the power 
options.



Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community 
http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable

On 9/19/2015 6:13 PM, randy tijerina wrote:
Friends, how in the world do you go about uninstalling jaws...16 and 
17? I just got this new program windows10i can't even find..the 
stupid turn off or shut down thing..let alone the countrol panel to 
uninstall.

Any help is greatly appreciated...this is a strange new beast.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

[jim]

Your Welcome,
Please let me know how your upgrade goes using Microsoft windows update way, 
through the system tray.
I have heard and experienced, that using the Windows update way, is very 
diffacult, let me know if it is as easy as using the media creation tool.
Sinse, you have already upgraded a computer using the Microsoft creation 
media tool, please let me know how it goes .

Thank you...

-Original Message- 
From: hwolcott

Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

hi jim
thanks for the reminder.
but I'll be installing win10 directly from my sys tray since I already
downloaded it.
it's just sitting in my windows update waiting for me to start the process.
I will do it sometime on monday.
I did use the windows on my 2-in-1 netbook and it did work perfectly.
I do have the win utility tool on a flash drive for when I eventually
install win10 on my dell laptop sometime in the future.
I will save this info for future reference, though.
thanks again.

p.s. yes, I will uninstall both jaws versions and shared components.
unfortunately, I no longer have a key since I used my last one last week and
tech support probably will not give another, so I hope I don't lose my last
jaws license key.
I'll cross that bridge when I come to it, I suppose.
take care.


howard wolcott

--
From: "jim" 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 7:27 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10


Hi Howard,
Yes, I would reinstall Jaws 17 after upgrading to w-10.
Just in case you need some reminders of upgrading to windows 10.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version 
depending on what system you have.

Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a 
verification email.

Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all 
the latest updates.

Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files 
and so on from your system.

Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your 
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself 
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, 
check the yes and press enter on next.

Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to 
complete.

After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the 
desktop.

very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with 
all your settings, except for 2 of them.

Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message- 
From: hwolcott

Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 3:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

hi desyree:
thanks for the response.
I'll keep that in mind.
will be upgrading sometime on monday.


howard wolcott

--
From: "Desyree" 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 2:54 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

yes and you may see an issue with the jaws pc cursor not working 
correctly in some cases. this has been reported to freedom scientific as 
a bug in jaws 17.

Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[Scorpio Forever]

Hi Dacia,

No, you do not, because Freedom Scientific has stated that if you are 
upgrading from a Windows 8.1 computer to a Windows 10, as long as you have 
the latest version of Jaws 16, then you should be good to go, and don't need 
to re-install a thing.


Now, if you wish to download the Windows 10 media creation kit, so you can 
get your copy of Windows faster, then that's your prerogative, but there are 
no utilities you'll have to download for Jaws.


Good luck.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Dacia Cole

Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 9:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Okay,

Thank you so much.  So do I still need to download the utility tool
and such even though I don't need to download JAWS as I'm running the
latest version of JAWS 16?

thanks,

Dacia

On 9/20/15, Scorpio Forever  wrote:

Hi Dacia,

Windows has a fairly good back-up utility that is very reliable.  You can
choose to make a back-up of your files, settings, or a complete image
back-up of your computer, including operating system, settings, files and
apps.

There's a web page that gives you step by step instructions on how to do
this below.

Hope this helps.

http://www.windowscentral.com/how-make-full-backup-windows-pc

Scorpio



-Original Message-
From: Dacia Cole
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Yes,

Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful.  I
plan to upgrade soon.  The part of my question that didn't get
answered is how to do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on
to my external hardrive in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose
things?  I don't anticipate that, but you know how computers can be.
(smiles)

thanks,

Dacia

On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins  wrote:

Jim,

Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by
Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more
coffee (smile)

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
jim
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16
after upgrading to w-10.
Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend
following them for a smooth upgrade experience.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi
ndows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your
download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder
for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or
32 bit version depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for
future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification
area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this
gives you a verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure
you have all the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws
fragmented files and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your
computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending
on your download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several
screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready
for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the
license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by
itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60
minutes to complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on
narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on
talking on the desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come
on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.

Re: [JAWS-Users] getting past the jawiths home use window

[petras]

I dont get why I have to do that.  This used to not apply in the 
previous build.


- Original Message -
From: valiant8086 

[JAWS-Users] Windows update

[randy tijerina]

Friends..this scares me a little..in Ie...i can't find windows 
update...it says.wuapp.exe windows cannot find wuapp.exe..make 
sure you  type it in correctly and try again..is it different now?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] getting past the jawiths home use window

[Mike B.]

Hi Petras,

Have you tried running Jaws from the system tray to see if that helps?
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: petras 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting past the jawiths home use window


I dont get why I have to do that.  This used to not apply in the 
previous build.

 - Original Message -
From: valiant8086 

Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

[Deb Caldbeck]

Thank you, Jim

Deb

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 11:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

Hi Deb,
Personally, I recommend using the Microsoft creation tool.
The way of using Microsoft windows update, can be troublesome for Jaws.
I do not use that way, so I can not say for sure, if my instructions will
work with that way of upgrading.
If you want an easier, and more pleasant experience while upgrading, I
highly, recommend using the Microsoft creation tool, and following my steps.
I have personally, upgraded 4 computers from beginning to end, using the
Microsoft creation tool.
I have assisted on many more w-10 upgrades.
If it were me, I would not try using the Windows update way of upgrading to
w-10, its too hard to follow along with Jaws.
Thank you, have a nice day...

-Original Message-
From: Deb Caldbeck
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 9:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

Windows 10 has downloaded itself to my computer.  Do I use the same
procedure?

Deb Caldbeck

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 6:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

Hi Howard,
Yes, I would reinstall Jaws 17 after upgrading to w-10.
Just in case you need some reminders of upgrading to windows 10.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message-
From: hwolcott
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 3:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

hi desyree:
thanks for the response.
I'll keep that in mind.
will be upgrading sometime on monday.


howard wolcott

--
From: "Desyree" 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 2:54 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

> yes and you may see an issue with the jaws pc cursor not working 
> correctly in some cases. this has been reported to freedom scientific 
> as a bug in jaws 17.
>
> On 9/19/2015 10:18 AM, hwolcott wrote:
>> hi list:
>> I know when upgrading from win7 to win10, you must uninstall and then 
>> reinstall 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update

[Alex Stone]

Which Windows version are we talking about?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 21 Sep 2015, at 01:18, randy tijerina  wrote:
> 
> Friends..this scares me a little..in Ie...i can't find windows update...it 
> says.wuapp.exe windows cannot find wuapp.exe..make sure you  type it in 
> correctly and try again..is it different now?
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[petras]

I  downloaded windows 10 through the microsoft website and used 
the media creation tool.  I reserved my fre upgrade and there 
were so many problems, I couldn't even use internet explorer nor 
use windows update.  I recomen you do it that way instead of 
reserving it in the sblestem tray.


- Original Message -
From: Dacia Cole  wrote:
Jim,

Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by
Dacia.  I answered part of her question.  Maybe time for more
coffee (smile)

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
jim
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16
after upgrading to w-10.
Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend
following them for a smooth upgrade experience.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi
ndows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your
download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder
for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or
32 bit version depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for
future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification
area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext.  this
gives you a verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure
you have all the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws
fragmented files and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your
computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending
on your download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several
screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready
for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the
license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by
itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60
minutes to complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on
narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on
talking on the desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come
on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring
the windows 10 and jaws list, is no.
Al
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Dacia Cole
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi,

I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10.
I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to
windows 10 today.
One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive?
Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10?
I'm currently using windows 8.1 with  JAWS 16 on a Lenovo
laptop.

thanks,

Dacia

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[JAWS-Users] deleting an account

[Kimsan]

Hi,

Here is my situation, I have two email addresses, and I was able to
configure both as pop.

 

However, I have two inboxes.  One for each email account.  I changed the
delivery location for one email, so now both email accounts will deliver
emails to one inbox.  So now that is done, the other email address is still
there when I navigate down the folder list in outlook 2013 and has it's
inbox, drafts, sent folders etc. Am I able to hide or remove that?

Thank you  

Kimsan Song

kimsans...@charter.net

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[David Ferrin]

The sad part is that the reload is not accessible without sited help. Other
than that I agree with you completely.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scorpio Forever
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Dacia,

Windows has a fairly good back-up utility that is very reliable.  You can
choose to make a back-up of your files, settings, or a complete image
back-up of your computer, including operating system, settings, files and
apps.

There's a web page that gives you step by step instructions on how to do
this below.

Hope this helps.

http://www.windowscentral.com/how-make-full-backup-windows-pc

Scorpio



-Original Message-
From: Dacia Cole
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Yes,

Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful.  I plan
to upgrade soon.  The part of my question that didn't get answered is how to
do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on to my external hardrive
in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose things?  I don't anticipate that,
but you know how computers can be.
(smiles)

thanks,

Dacia

On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins  wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by Dacia. I 
> answered part of her question. Maybe time for more coffee (smile)
>
> Best,
> Al
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List
> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
>
> Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after 
> upgrading to w-10.
> Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for 
> a smooth upgrade experience.
> *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
> go to:
> http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi
> ndows10Upgrade
> Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download 
> folder.
> Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future 
> use.
> Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
> On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or
> 32 bit version depending on what system you have.
> Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
> Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
> Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
> press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
> go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a 
> verification email.
> Now, restart your computer.
> check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have 
> all the latest updates.
> Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
> Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented 
> files and so on from your system.
> Run the media creation tool.
> yes, for your users account warning.
> Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
> you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
> Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
> This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your 
> download speed.
> When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself 
> updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
> Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license 
> agreement, check the yes and press enter on next.
> Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
> Next, press enter on install.
> now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to 
> complete.
> After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
> Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
> Almost done.
> press the next button.
> choose express settings.
> press the next button.
> if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on 
> the desktop.
> very important, uninstall jaws.
> Keep shared settings and personal settings.
> Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking 
> with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
> Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
> Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
> For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
> Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan Robbins
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
>
> 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

[Dave Carlson]

Alan,

A couple thoughts here...

Do you have cookies enabled in IE?

Also, I've seen a setting in IE where it will auto-populate edit fields with 
stored data.

Do you have these features up and running?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Alan Robbins" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 02:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation


Daniel,

Thanks, I got the same. Hopefully they will share the
feeling that it is a good idea. I just feel the less work
you ask on this form, the more folks will take the time to
report. Just my theory
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
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Daniel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

Hello Al,
Here is the response I just received from Freedomscientific
suggestions.
Dear Valued Customer:

Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific. Your e-mail has
been received, and we appreciate your suggestions, which are
valuable to us.  Due to the volume of e-mail received at
this account, please do not expect another response unless
we need more information or have additional questions.

Sincere Regards,

The Freedom Scientific Product Management Team.

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From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:51 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

Hello,



FYI, just submitted the following to:

suggesti...@freedomscientific.com



possibly if others feel the same, send it in.



Hello,



Each year I participate in the beta program. Generally over
the beta cycle, I submit many bug reports. I wish there was
a way for some of the information to remembered each year
after the first report was sent. For instance, each time I
submit I need to enter first name, last name, Jaws serial
number, phone number, email address, operating system, etc.
This is a lot of unnecessary typing on the part of the
person submitting the report. Is there any way for these
fields to auto populate?



Best,

Al



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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[Dacia Cole]

Okay,

Thank you so much.  So do I still need to download the utility tool
and such even though I don't need to download JAWS as I'm running the
latest version of JAWS 16?

thanks,

Dacia

On 9/20/15, Scorpio Forever  wrote:
> Hi Dacia,
>
> Windows has a fairly good back-up utility that is very reliable.  You can
> choose to make a back-up of your files, settings, or a complete image
> back-up of your computer, including operating system, settings, files and
> apps.
>
> There's a web page that gives you step by step instructions on how to do
> this below.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> http://www.windowscentral.com/how-make-full-backup-windows-pc
>
> Scorpio
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dacia Cole
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:24 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
>
> Yes,
>
> Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful.  I
> plan to upgrade soon.  The part of my question that didn't get
> answered is how to do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on
> to my external hardrive in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose
> things?  I don't anticipate that, but you know how computers can be.
> (smiles)
>
> thanks,
>
> Dacia
>
> On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins  wrote:
>> Jim,
>>
>> Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by
>> Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more
>> coffee (smile)
>>
>> Best,
>> Al
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List
>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
>> jim
>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
>>
>> Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16
>> after upgrading to w-10.
>> Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend
>> following them for a smooth upgrade experience.
>> *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
>> go to:
>> http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi
>> ndows10Upgrade
>> Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your
>> download folder.
>> Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder
>> for future use.
>> Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
>> On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or
>> 32 bit version depending on what system you have.
>> Download the tool and save it to your download folder for
>> future use.
>> Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
>> Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
>> press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification
>> area.
>> go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this
>> gives you a verification email.
>> Now, restart your computer.
>> check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure
>> you have all the latest updates.
>> Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
>> Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws
>> fragmented files and so on from your system.
>> Run the media creation tool.
>> yes, for your users account warning.
>> Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
>> you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
>> Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your
>> computer.
>> This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending
>> on your download speed.
>> When it is done downloading, it will go through several
>> screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready
>> for windows 10.
>> Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the
>> license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next.
>> Again, the program will run through several screens by
>> itself.
>> Next, press enter on install.
>> now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60
>> minutes to complete.
>> After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on
>> narrator.
>> Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
>> Almost done.
>> press the next button.
>> choose express settings.
>> press the next button.
>> if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on
>> talking on the desktop.
>> very important, uninstall jaws.
>> Keep shared settings and personal settings.
>> Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come
>> on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
>> Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
>> Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
>> For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
>> Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Alan Robbins
>> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
>>
>> The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring
>> the windows 10 and jaws list, is no.
>> Al

Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[Lynn White]

My version of Jaws came back up just fine.  Is it still necessary to go 
on the FS page and reinstall?


Thanks.

On 9/20/2015 7:04 PM, Alan Robbins wrote:

Jim,

Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by
Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more
coffee (smile)

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
jim
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16
after upgrading to w-10.
Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend
following them for a smooth upgrade experience.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi
ndows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your
download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder
for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or
32 bit version depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for
future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification
area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this
gives you a verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure
you have all the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws
fragmented files and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your
computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending
on your download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several
screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready
for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the
license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by
itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60
minutes to complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on
narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on
talking on the desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come
on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message-
From: Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring
the windows 10 and jaws list, is no.
Al
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Dacia Cole
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi,

I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10.
I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to
windows 10 today.
One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive?
Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10?
I'm currently using windows 8.1 with  JAWS 16 on a Lenovo
laptop.

thanks,

Dacia

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[JAWS-Users] Small problem with the jaws 17 beta release in reading emails

[Maheen]

Hi folks,
When I read my emails in jaws 17, for some reason jaws keeps saying blank blank 
blank and won't read the emails until I have to unload and reload jaws. It's 
not that big of an issue, but I'm sure they will fix this in the next beta 
release. Anyone else have this issue?

Maheen.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] strange announcement only in outlook and the folder structure

[Kimsan]

That didn't change nothing. It still says that.  BTW, yes, it does say go to
folder dialog treview; however, while down arrowing that is when I will here
that message aboot setting keyboard language to US.
I wonder if I should do a jaws repair, just thinking out loud.
 

Kimsan Song
kimsans...@charter.net

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Daniel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] strange announcement only in outlook and the
folder structure

Hello,
In Microsoft office 2013 JAWS says, "Go to Folder Dialog, Tree View, just
like in Microsoft office 2010. Go to your language settings and make sure
English United States is set as your default language.
Daniel

Daniel

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 9:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] strange announcement only in outlook and the
folder structure

In 2010 it says "Go to folder dialog. Tree view."

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Annette Carr
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] strange announcement only in outlook and the
folder structure

I have only been hearing the "Setting keyboard to U.S." message for the past
week on only my Work laptop.  It is random and has happened at various times
when using Outlook 2010.  I do not think that I heard it when using the
Outlook Control+y, and I use that command all day long.

Annette


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:08 AM
To: 'jaws-users'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] strange announcement only in outlook and the folder
structure

This issue has gone on for about a year now and it really doesn't bug me,
but after  a year of the same thing happening, one begins to wonder.

When I do CTRL y for the folder list in outlook 2013 in this case, it says
setting keyboard to US.

It only says that there and I haven't noticed it anywhere, what prey tell
yall think is happening and what is the fix? Fwiw, I'm using JFW16 45o.

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[JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

[Alan Robbins]

Hello, 

 

FYI, just submitted the following to:

suggesti...@freedomscientific.com

 

possibly if others feel the same, send it in.

 

Hello,

 

Each year I participate in the beta program. Generally over
the beta cycle, I submit many bug reports. I wish there was
a way for some of the information to remembered each year
after the first report was sent. For instance, each time I
submit I need to enter first name, last name, Jaws serial
number, phone number, email address, operating system, etc.
This is a lot of unnecessary typing on the part of the
person submitting the report. Is there any way for these
fields to auto populate?

 

Best,

Al

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] the Edge?

[Daniel]

Hello all,
Microsoft edge is experimentally support in JAWS 17 public beta 1, build
17.0.605. it is usable with tab, but the arrow keys don't work in it. If you
really want to check it out, use the latest next snapshot of NVDA There,
edge works almost completely, much like Internet Explorer,  Firefox, and
Google Chrome. Plugins don't work at this time in edge, so windows updates
are not support at this time as well. . If you are running windows 10 and
wish to use google chrome, you'll need google chrome canary, build 41.
Hope this is useful,
Daniel


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Matthew dyer
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the Edge?

Randy.  Edge is not accessibility at this time.  You will want to stay with
Internet Explorer , Firefox or even chrome is accessible.  HTH.

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of randy tijerina
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 2:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] the Edge?

ok folksI'm seriously thinking of checking out this here new browser.
The Edge.
you guys think it's more accessible? or...secure?
can I do windows updates from this?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

[Daniel]

Hey all,
I just copied your email and sent suggesti...@freedomscientific.com a
message, using your email as a templet, and adding/ revising my email from
yours. Maybe this can be put into escalation? 
Daniel


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:51 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

Hello, 

 

FYI, just submitted the following to:

suggesti...@freedomscientific.com

 

possibly if others feel the same, send it in.

 

Hello,

 

Each year I participate in the beta program. Generally over the beta cycle,
I submit many bug reports. I wish there was a way for some of the
information to remembered each year after the first report was sent. For
instance, each time I submit I need to enter first name, last name, Jaws
serial number, phone number, email address, operating system, etc.
This is a lot of unnecessary typing on the part of the person submitting the
report. Is there any way for these fields to auto populate?

 

Best,

Al

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

[Daniel]

Hello Al,
Here is the response I just received from Freedomscientific suggestions.
Dear Valued Customer:
 
Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific. Your e-mail has been received,
and we appreciate your suggestions, which are valuable to us.  Due to the
volume of e-mail received at this account, please do not expect another
response unless we need more information or have additional questions.
 
Sincere Regards,
 
The Freedom Scientific Product Management Team.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:51 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

Hello, 

 

FYI, just submitted the following to:

suggesti...@freedomscientific.com

 

possibly if others feel the same, send it in.

 

Hello,

 

Each year I participate in the beta program. Generally over the beta cycle,
I submit many bug reports. I wish there was a way for some of the
information to remembered each year after the first report was sent. For
instance, each time I submit I need to enter first name, last name, Jaws
serial number, phone number, email address, operating system, etc.
This is a lot of unnecessary typing on the part of the person submitting the
report. Is there any way for these fields to auto populate?

 

Best,

Al

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[Alan Robbins]

The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring
the windows 10 and jaws list, is no.
Al
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Dacia Cole
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

Hi,

I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10.
I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to
windows 10 today.
One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive?
Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10?
I'm currently using windows 8.1 with  JAWS 16 on a Lenovo
laptop.

thanks,

Dacia

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

[Daniel]

Hello Al,
I totally agree with you on as many people submitting this request to
Freedomscientific suggestions. Do you have your SMA? JAWS 17 public beta 2
is coming out in ten days. You'll need your JAWS SMA up-to-date, as this
beta will effectively render JAWS as a demo, unless your JAWS SMA is
current. If not, you'll have to purchase a  new copy of JAWS 17.
Daniel


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

Daniel,

Thanks, I got the same. Hopefully they will share the feeling that it is a
good idea. I just feel the less work you ask on this form, the more folks
will take the time to report. Just my theory Al

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

Hello Al,
Here is the response I just received from Freedomscientific suggestions.
Dear Valued Customer:
 
Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific. Your e-mail has been received,
and we appreciate your suggestions, which are valuable to us.  Due to the
volume of e-mail received at this account, please do not expect another
response unless we need more information or have additional questions.
 
Sincere Regards,
 
The Freedom Scientific Product Management Team.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:51 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

Hello, 

 

FYI, just submitted the following to:

suggesti...@freedomscientific.com

 

possibly if others feel the same, send it in.

 

Hello,

 

Each year I participate in the beta program. Generally over the beta cycle,
I submit many bug reports. I wish there was a way for some of the
information to remembered each year after the first report was sent. For
instance, each time I submit I need to enter first name, last name, Jaws
serial number, phone number, email address, operating system, etc.
This is a lot of unnecessary typing on the part of the person submitting the
report. Is there any way for these fields to auto populate?

 

Best,

Al

 

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[JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions

[Dacia Cole]

Hi,

I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10.  I've
finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to windows 10 today.
One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive?  Second, do
I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10?  I'm currently using
windows 8.1 with  JAWS 16 on a Lenovo laptop.

thanks,

Dacia

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[JAWS-Users] jaws beta report form!

[Bob Edenhofer]

Hi Alan! no, their isn’t, I’m sorry about that my friend, that’s what freedom 
scientific requires us to do unfortunitly.  
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I have a question about C dex and jaws 17 beta

[Daniel]

Hello Maheen,
The latest version of c dex is actually version 1.79. the afor mentioned bug
you speak of is fixed in JAWS 17. C dex works well in windows 10, home or
professional official builds, or in my case, insider builds. Current I'm
running insider build 10537.hope this helps,
Daniel


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 5:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I have a question about C dex and jaws 17 beta

The fact that you had errors during the installation of CDEX would suggest
that it will not run on your system in Windows 10.
I am doubtful that it is a problem with Jaws.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


- Original Message -
From: "Maheen" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:24 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I have a question about C dex and jaws 17 beta


Hello all,
I have just upgraded to windows 10 professional, and today I installed the 
public release of jaws 17. I'm very impressed. Now, I however have a very 
odd problem with a CD ripping program, C dex. I tried to install with jaws 
16. When I installed, it completely, totally crashed my jaws. I had to do a 
jaws repair with narrator, completely uninstalled C dex and the narrator 
voice in windows 10 is very clear. Now, is this a bug in jaws 16 with C dex 
or has this been fixed with jaws 17? This was very frustrating because I got

a lot of DLL errors too when I installed C dex. I tried the latest version 
of c dex 1.75 but  there's no 64 bit version, to the best of my knowledge. 
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated indeed. Thanks much!

Maheen.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

[Alan Robbins]

Daniel,

Thanks, I got the same. Hopefully they will share the
feeling that it is a good idea. I just feel the less work
you ask on this form, the more folks will take the time to
report. Just my theory
Al

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Daniel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

Hello Al,
Here is the response I just received from Freedomscientific
suggestions.
Dear Valued Customer:
 
Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific. Your e-mail has
been received, and we appreciate your suggestions, which are
valuable to us.  Due to the volume of e-mail received at
this account, please do not expect another response unless
we need more information or have additional questions.
 
Sincere Regards,
 
The Freedom Scientific Product Management Team.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:51 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

Hello, 

 

FYI, just submitted the following to:

suggesti...@freedomscientific.com

 

possibly if others feel the same, send it in.

 

Hello,

 

Each year I participate in the beta program. Generally over
the beta cycle, I submit many bug reports. I wish there was
a way for some of the information to remembered each year
after the first report was sent. For instance, each time I
submit I need to enter first name, last name, Jaws serial
number, phone number, email address, operating system, etc.
This is a lot of unnecessary typing on the part of the
person submitting the report. Is there any way for these
fields to auto populate?

 

Best,

Al

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

[Alan Robbins]

I do, ok for next two versions. Especially like it now I can
have home version rather than pro for a lot less money

Al

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Daniel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

Hello Al,
I totally agree with you on as many people submitting this
request to Freedomscientific suggestions. Do you have your
SMA? JAWS 17 public beta 2 is coming out in ten days. You'll
need your JAWS SMA up-to-date, as this beta will effectively
render JAWS as a demo, unless your JAWS SMA is current. If
not, you'll have to purchase a  new copy of JAWS 17.
Daniel


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From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 6:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

Daniel,

Thanks, I got the same. Hopefully they will share the
feeling that it is a good idea. I just feel the less work
you ask on this form, the more folks will take the time to
report. Just my theory Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Daniel
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

Hello Al,
Here is the response I just received from Freedomscientific
suggestions.
Dear Valued Customer:
 
Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific. Your e-mail has
been received, and we appreciate your suggestions, which are
valuable to us.  Due to the volume of e-mail received at
this account, please do not expect another response unless
we need more information or have additional questions.
 
Sincere Regards,
 
The Freedom Scientific Product Management Team.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Alan Robbins
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:51 PM
To: Jaws-Users-List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Beta form automation

Hello, 

 

FYI, just submitted the following to:

suggesti...@freedomscientific.com

 

possibly if others feel the same, send it in.

 

Hello,

 

Each year I participate in the beta program. Generally over
the beta cycle, I submit many bug reports. I wish there was
a way for some of the information to remembered each year
after the first report was sent. For instance, each time I
submit I need to enter first name, last name, Jaws serial
number, phone number, email address, operating system, etc.
This is a lot of unnecessary typing on the part of the
person submitting the report. Is there any way for these
fields to auto populate?

 

Best,

Al

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] the Edge?

[Gerardo Corripio]

 Wait for until in the future; FS says in one of their recent podcasts 
113 in which Jaws17 features were described, to wait until FS fixes some 
issues with Edge; in the meantime to continue using either Firefox or 
Internet Explorer.


El 20/09/2015 01:20 p.m., randy tijerina escribió:
ok folksi'm seriously thinking of checking out this here new 
browser..the Edge.

you guys think it's more accessible? or...secure?
can I do windows updates from this?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] the Edge?

[David Ferrin]

It is not accessible at all at this time, forget it for now.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

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Behalf Of randy tijerina
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 2:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] the Edge?

ok folksi'm seriously thinking of checking out this here new
browser..the Edge.
you guys think it's more accessible? or...secure?
can I do windows updates from this?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] the Edge?

[matthew dyer]

Randy.  Edge is not accessibility at this time.  You will want to stay with
ie, firefox or even chrome is accessible.  HTH.

Matthew



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Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 2:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] the Edge?

ok folksi'm seriously thinking of checking out this here new
browser..the Edge.
you guys think it's more accessible? or...secure?
can I do windows updates from this?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

[jim]

Yes, I would try that with my step by step instructions.


-Original Message- 
From: Deb Caldbeck 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 9:23 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10 


Windows 10 has downloaded itself to my computer.  Do I use the same
procedure?

Deb Caldbeck

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Behalf Of jim
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 6:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

Hi Howard,
Yes, I would reinstall Jaws 17 after upgrading to w-10.
Just in case you need some reminders of upgrading to windows 10.
*Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17.
go to:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade
Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder.
Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use.
Download the Microsoft media creation tool at:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version
depending on what system you have.
Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use.
Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder.
Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so.
press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area.
go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a
verification email.
Now, restart your computer.
check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all
the latest updates.
Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10.
Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files
and so on from your system.
Run the media creation tool.
yes, for your users account warning.
Choose, update this computer now and press enter.
you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says:
Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer.
This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your
download speed.
When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself
updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10.
Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement,
check the yes and press enter on next.
Again, the program will run through several screens by itself.
Next, press enter on install.
now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to
complete.
After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator.
Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away.
Almost done.
press the next button.
choose express settings.
press the next button.
if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the
desktop.
very important, uninstall jaws.
Keep shared settings and personal settings.
Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with
all your settings, except for 2 of them.
Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j.
Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen.
For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time.
Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again.


-Original Message-
From: hwolcott
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 3:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

hi desyree:
thanks for the response.
I'll keep that in mind.
will be upgrading sometime on monday.


howard wolcott

--
From: "Desyree" 
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 2:54 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] when upgrading from win7 to win10

yes and you may see an issue with the jaws pc cursor not working 
correctly in some cases. this has been reported to freedom scientific 
as a bug in jaws 17.


On 9/19/2015 10:18 AM, hwolcott wrote:

hi list:
I know when upgrading from win7 to win10, you must uninstall and then 
reinstall jaws 16.

does the same procedure have to be followed for jaw 17 public beta?
thanks in advance for any advice.


howard wolcott
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 beta!

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I am running win ten here and find the beta to be quite stable here.  I only 
had 1 situatioln whare I had to reboot the system while using olutlook 2013.  
After that it is humming here with no problems.

Matthew



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Of valiant8086
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2015 9:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 17 beta!

Hi.

My experience with jaws 17 have been such that I'm glad this is still a 
public beta only. Try using 17 with a touch screen on a tablet computer, 
my atom 1.8ghz quad core asus t100 is sluggish in quite a few places not 
the least of which is skype for desktop. Try moving up and down your 
contacts, if you're lucky JAWS will only be sluggish and keep talking 
and focusing new items for several seconds after you take the finger off 
the screen, but I've had plenty of jaws crash and restart, or jaws 
shutdowns happen to me, the shutdowns are nasty because I have to 
connect the keyboard dock long enough to use buttons to start jaws again.

While my t100 isn't exactly a speed demon, it does actually run pretty 
good, and it did ok with jaws 16. I think this ought to be fixable given 
that fact. I don't know if it has anything to do with extra code in use 
to play the tick sounds when touching no man's land or what.

With the touch keyboard, if you put it in numbers mode and slide a 
finger over to the number pad, you get extreme sluggishness or crash and 
hopefully restarts of jaws. I duplicated this numerous times with my 
asus t100 running windows 10 (see specs above) and my 3ghz core i7 
hozwell lenovo yoga 2 pro with 8gb ram running windows 8.1.

Also, the touch keyboard is pretty dangerous on the t100 while trying to 
type someone a skype chat, because if you accidentally touch above the 
keyboard jaws will at least freeze temporarily, if not just crash and 
again HOPEFULLY restart. I say hopefully there because it doesn't always 
start up again, it just closes and you have to connect a keyboard or go 
back into laptop mode long enough to press the buttons you need to start 
jaws again.

The touch keyboard is a lot better, but the touch screen support right 
now feels really gimmicky, 16 didn't have as many touch screen usability 
features but it is far more responsive and stable.

My last issue is with smart navigation. If you have a page that uses a 
list of links but they're all laid out horizontally on screen even 
though they are indeed an html list, jaws insists on putting them in a 
vertical layout. You can reproduce this on freedomscientific.com near 
the top of the page with the navigation menu that contains items like 
home, products, services, downloads, support, dealer locator and shop. 
According to the jaws cursor (yes I really mean the jaws cursor), this 
is a horizontal list, a bar of links that span the top of the website, 
kind of looks like a menu bar. With the virtual pc cursor while you've 
got smart navigation turned on, this appears to be a vertical list.

I have reported all of these concerns to fs via the 17 beta report form, 
but as that form is crazily short on the edit boxes limiting the input 
to too few characters to say all that I have to say, I wondered if there 
was a chance I'd get Erick's or someone's attention on here, especially 
if anyone else wants to confirm my findings, perhaps by duplicating my 
problem reports via the beta report form at least.

I think the touch screen issues are likely fixable as jaws 16 is much 
better. Oh also, is anyone else finding web browsing to be more sluggish 
in internet explorer 11? Smart navigation is of course on, for elements 
and tables.

Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community 
http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable
On 9/18/2015 7:38 PM, Bob Edenhofer wrote:
> I’m really enjoying the beta version of jaws 17 myself!
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