Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2016

[Jim Pursley]

  Thanks.Yeh...works great.  Good reason to review JAWS commands from 
time to time!



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On 7/20/2018 1:13 PM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:

Kurt,

You could also use ctrl-ins-1-0 to hear the names of the colomns. In
listviews this is a handy option of jaws that works in more programs.
But alt-1-6 is more handy in this case.

Regards, Marten


On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 05:14:22 -0400 "Kurt Miller"  wrote:


Reed,
I never knew these commands. These are great. I always shift tabbed to find
this info. Thanks so much.
Kurt

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Sent: Friday, July 20, 2018 1:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2016

Hi Steven,

Have you tried Alt+1 through Alt+6 to hear the From, Sent, To, CC, Subject
and BCC info?

Reed

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Sent: July 19, 2018 9:50 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2016

Hi friends,

Using the latest JAWS 2018 and Microsoft Outlook 2016.
If I open an email, I don't seem to be able to change in to JAWS cursor and
read the top of the message heading where the to and cc fields are which is
how I would normally check this.
Has anyone had any similar issues?
The only way I can read the to and cc fields is to shift+tab back to them
and it is sometimes useful to use the JAWS cursor to read the top part of
the screen.






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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2016

[Jim Pursley]

I use the shift-tab combination; hadn't thought about using the JAWS 
cursor as I run with the numpad locked.  I don't know of another way to 
read the to and cc field information.


On 7/20/2018 1:50 AM, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) 
wrote:

Hi friends,

Using the latest JAWS 2018 and Microsoft Outlook 2016.
If I open an email, I don't seem to be able to change in to JAWS cursor and 
read the top of the message heading where the to and cc fields are which is how 
I would normally check this.
Has anyone had any similar issues?
The only way I can read the to and cc fields is to shift+tab back to them and 
it is sometimes useful to use the JAWS cursor to read the top part of the 
screen.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Have to get new MS office suite

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We just upgraded to Office 365 from Thunderbird email client and Office 2010.  
I don't do much with Word, but with O365 I didn't need to uninstall anything.  
Just got a Microsoft account, bought the O365 home with 5 connections and so 
far it's running pretty smoothly.  I've never used Outlook, so I kept Tbird.  
After a few days (I'll read the FS tutorial on Outlook I bought recently) I can 
do everyday stuff like send, receive, forward, etc.  Bottom line, I've not 
found Office 2016 (which I downloaded) much different than 2010-especially for 
Excel which I constantly use.  I even see some benefits to Outlook over 
Thunderbird.  The exchange server we had to get with O365 works faster and more 
reliably than our former server of the POP variety.  So..kicking and screaming 
I upgraded and survived with a growing smile on my face.

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Casey
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Have to get new MS office suite

Hey Wayne.

I just upgraded from office 2010 32-bit to 2016 64-bit. I used 2016 before at 
my old work and found that it worked really well with jAWS 18 except for the 
semi-usual jAWS crashes, which I recently discovered seem less of an issue if 
you stick to good ole' Eloquence. I do find that certain things, like the 
spell-check, seems to work better in 2016.

I would upgrade to 2016 because it's the latest non-365 version and will 
continue to be supported for quite some time. 

I made a backup of my outlook data using the export feature. In the end, even 
though I had to uninstall Office completely in order to install the new 
version, those files were retained in my data folders and so I did not end up 
needing to use the backup. The same should be true for you, but just backup the 
folders anyway, just in case.



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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Have to get new MS office suite

Well, it is here. I am getting notices from Microsoft that my MS Office 2007 is 
no longer supported. I have basic needs and do not want to have to relearn 
everything again if I don't have to. I can upgrade through my school to 
something less than 365.  I could use some advice as to which MS Office is most 
constant with the older version. I have used 2010 and it worked reasonable 
well. I Have Windows 7 and JAWS 15 but I do have upgrades to current versions 
that I have not used. Any thoughts would be appreciated. On a related note I 
currently have my emails sent to my MS Outlook 2007. If I upgrade will the 
folders that I have created automatically export to say Outlook 2016?

 

Thanks for any help,

 

Wayne

 

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[JAWS-Users] Office 365

[Jim Pursley]

(somewhat) boldy going whereno Pursley has ever gone before.

We're upgrading to Office 365 from Thunderbird and Office 2010.  I'd 
appreciate any guidance you might have to ease the orientation process.


Thanks.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Excel 2018 Column Heading Reading

[Jim Pursley]

Earlier versions of Excel allow the user to specify column and row 
titles by the combination insert/alt control R for column titles and C 
for row titles.  The titles can be saved but occasionally wipe out and 
you have to re-do.


Hope this works for Excel 2018

Hail Sir Humphrey! (no comparison with the current NHS meant)

On 6/13/2018 3:44 PM, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) 
wrote:

Hi friends,

I Wonder if someone can help me please?
I Have a spread sheet and across the top, there are headings so a1, a2, a3 and 
a4 are the headings of the columns going down with data in them.
Sometimes when I am half way down and moving from left to right, it would be 
useful to be able to press key key combination that would read the column 
heading that I am in so I don't have to keep remembering them, especially if I 
keep expanding the number of columns.
Does anyone know if there is a way to do this please?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Some PDFs do not read properly

[Jim Pursley]

I occasionally experience the run on word issue you seem to be 
describing.  It clears up when you change the reading format to the read 
from the raw print stream option.  Control shift 5 gets you the reading 
format list.  Arrow where you want to go.   Tagged readin format 
sometimes does not behave properly either.


On 5/29/2018 11:02 AM, jmule wrote:

Hi all,


For a while now, I have noticed that some PDFs are not read properly 
by Jaws or NVDA. What happens is that multiple words are read as one 
long word, with no spaces between the words. This is not on all PDFs, 
just some. I have never encountered this problem with PDFs that I have 
created using either MS Word or PDF995. On the PDFs that have a 
problem, I have extracted them to text files and the problem will also 
show up in the text file. Someone had once suggested that the problem 
is related to the original font being used, but that does not make any 
sense. So, Can anyone shed a little light on this problem?



Here is a link to a PDF with the problem I have described (from last 
weeks Top Tech Tidbits newsletter):


http://bit.ly/2GKOuSC 




I am using Windows 7, Jaws 16/NVDA 2018.1 and Acrobat Reader DC 
2018.011.20040.



Thanks,

John



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel and JAWS 2018 Issue

[Jim Pursley]

I had an issue with Excel 2010 with the latest 2018 build involving 
arrowing up up down and across cells.  I am able to navigate with the 
arrow keys but there's an annoying delay.  Switching to JAWS 18 solves 
the problem  I have word from tech support taht my issue will be fixed 
in the next update expected before the end of May.  Similar issues are 
not exactly comparable of course, but both of our issues involve 
navigating by arrow.


On 5/12/2018 1:14 PM, Gary Ray wrote:

Gary Ray here.

  


A couple of friends of mine are having issues being able to read excel 2016
with a 365 subscription.  They are using JAWS 2018 with latest update. They
have new Lenovo laptops with 1709.

  


They tell me that when they open a spreadsheet, they cannot arrow around to
read cells. In my Excel 2010 using JAWS 2018 with the latest update and
1709, I am having no problems.

  


Can anyone give me any ideas of what to tell them to help them out.

  


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Copying a Table from an Email to Word

[Jim Pursley]

Can you convert your email format to HTML?  In Thunderbird my emails 
come as HTML instead of plain text so copying is more accurate.


On 4/30/2018 1:55 PM, Brian Lee wrote:

Hello Pam,

There are a couple things you might want to try.

First, instead of using CTRL V to paste the text try pressing the
application key, use down arrow to the paste options menu item.  Use right
arrow and press enter key on the option to keep source formatting.  If that
doesn't work due to your settings in Word or Outlook, try pasting using Alt
with CTRL and V.  In the paste special dialog arrow down and choose to paste
as HTML.

I hope one of these methods work for you.

Take care.

Brian Lee
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Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: April 30, 2018 7:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Copying a Table from an Email to Word

Hi All,

I am trying to copy a large table from an email into a document in Word
2013.  Using JAWS 18, I am copying it with the F8 key, and then pasting it
into Word with control plus v.

My issue is that it is not keeping the table format when it is pasted into
Word.

Does anyone have any other suggestions for how I can keep it formatted as a
table?

Thanks,
Pam



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[JAWS-Users] Fwd: Re: trash in thunderbird

[Jim Pursley]

In the tree view only draft and in boxes show the number of emails they 
hold  I think that is because they are live in memory boxes as opposed 
to storage boxes.  Less memory used that way, I guess  I don't know of 
another way to count trash emails using JAWS or otehrwise..



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Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] trash in thunderbird
Date:   Fri, 27 Apr 2018 10:07:41 -0400
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I would think it should read the same way it does for the In box,
when you are in the tree-view.

HTH,
Rick Justice

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To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 8:55 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] trash in thunderbird


Is there a way to have JAWS read the # of emails in the trashbin?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird and Updates

[Jim Pursley]

Hit t for tools, o for options.  Tab once and go down the tree to 
security (arrow down).  Tab to updates.  Check if you want updates 
automatically. I think the default is yes.


I am using Tbird 52.7, I imagine the latest.

On 4/26/2018 6:28 PM, jerry martin wrote:

Afternoon all.

I was on the menu bar for the current version of thunderbird, and I 
did not find an option for updating the software. Does Mozilla send 
email notices for updates of the software? I am using JAWS 2018 and 
Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Folders in Thunderbird

[Jim Pursley]

When you boot up Thunderbird you should be in the in box..but it won't 
actuate.  Tab once and you will be in the tree view.  Tab twice and you 
will be in the list view of your in box where you can open messages, 
etc.  Use your arrow keys (down arrow probably because the in box is at 
the top of the tree) to find the folder you want and tab once to its 
list view.


On 4/19/2018 4:09 PM, jerry martin wrote:

Afternoon all.

Can anyone instruct me in the procedure for getting to my folders i.e. 
junk, trash, etc.? I am using the current version of Thunderbird, JAWS 
2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks for any assistance.


Jerry


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

[Jim Pursley]

I have no problem using reader to read New York Times, Washington Post 
and Financial Times articles.  Maybe that's because I maintain a 
subscription to each of them.  All 3 have varieties of pay walls.


By the way , I access reader with alt/control/r.  Alt/control/f does not 
activate for me.  As I recall, the short cut key alt/control/r is listed 
next to the reader view option in the Firefox top line menu.


On 4/11/2018 1:28 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

Don't know what to tell you. I use it all the time when reading articles in the 
New York Times.
Control plus alt plus R is probably my most used Firefox command. I use 
flexible web a lot less because of this.

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Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

The New York Times comes to mind right away as a publication where reading view 
doesn't work, and I do have the full articles open. I'll try different websites 
as I encounter them.

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Pursley
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 9:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

It does seem strange to me taht the reader sometimesfails to read an article 
for me, though I can download the text and read it in the published format.  
The Economist is the only publisher I've encountered which reader does not 
read.  Adrian, what are some publications which don't format in reader for you? 
 Maybe there is a common thread, like a hard pay wall.  For sure, reader does 
not read truncated articles (continued,read more, etc.) for the most part. It 
usually in my experience requires a full article for it to open.

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Behalf Of Dennis Long
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Reader view will work on almost any article.

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On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Hi, Jim. In your reply to a separate query, you mention the Firefox key combo 
control-alt-r, which I know you've done in the past. However, I can't find my notes on 
that thread. Is this Firefox's "reader view"? I've looked online, but the 
instructions don't seem to work for me. Also, I see an alternative key sequence of alt, 
v, r, but this doesn’t work either.

Would you explain reader view or point to an explanation, and maybe give a link 
to a page where it works?

Here's the webpage of instructions that I found:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clutter-free-
web-pages


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Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 6:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening a second window in Firefox

I'm not much help here as I don't open new Firefox tabs.  I find that many of 
the sites I use work better with IE11 than Firefox.  My Fidelity Institutional 
site does not work at all with the current (ESL)Firefox version. I have Firefox 
as my default browser, mainly because I really like the alt/control/R function 
reader, which strips out extraneous information and often noxious audio inserts 
from articles I want to read.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

[Jim Pursley]

I am using Firefox ESL latest.  Reader works fine for me except in rare 
instances - The Economist for example.  I suspect the issue with those 
of you having difficulty may be in the subset of material that you read.


On 4/11/2018 10:12 AM, JM Casey wrote:

It doesn't work for me either, and although I could be wrong, I *think* this is 
because we are both using Firefox 52/ESR. The reader view was a feature 
introduced later; I'm not sure which version. I assume it works well with the 
new Quantum ones, but so far, if you want to use JAWS with those, I guess you 
are still out of luck, and versions between 52 and 57 are not supported by 
Mozilla.

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Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: April 11, 2018 8:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Not on the articles I've been reading with Firefox.

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Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Reader view will work on almost any article.

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Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Hi, Jim. In your reply to a separate query, you mention the Firefox key combo 
control-alt-r, which I know you've done in the past. However, I can't find my notes on 
that thread. Is this Firefox's "reader view"? I've looked online, but the 
instructions don't seem to work for me. Also, I see an alternative key sequence of alt, 
v, r, but this doesn’t work either.

Would you explain reader view or point to an explanation, and maybe give a link 
to a page where it works?

Here's the webpage of instructions that I found: 
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clutter-free-web-pages


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From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Jim 
Pursley
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 6:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening a second window in Firefox

I'm not much help here as I don't open new Firefox tabs.  I find that many of 
the sites I use work better with IE11 than Firefox.  My Fidelity Institutional 
site does not work at all with the current (ESL)Firefox version. I have Firefox 
as my default browser, mainly because I really like the alt/control/R function 
reader, which strips out extraneous information and often noxious audio inserts 
from articles I want to read.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

[Jim Pursley]

It does seem strange to me taht the reader sometimesfails to read an 
article for me, though I can download the text and read it in the 
published format.  The Economist is the only publisher I've encountered 
which reader does not read.  Adrian, what are some publications which 
don't format in reader for you?  Maybe there is a common thread, like a 
hard pay wall.  For sure, reader does not read truncated articles 
(continued,read more, etc.) for the most part. It usually in my 
experience requires a full article for it to open.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 5:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Reader view will work on almost any article.

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Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 3:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox reader view

Hi, Jim. In your reply to a separate query, you mention the Firefox key combo 
control-alt-r, which I know you've done in the past. However, I can't find my notes on 
that thread. Is this Firefox's "reader view"? I've looked online, but the 
instructions don't seem to work for me. Also, I see an alternative key sequence of alt, 
v, r, but this doesn’t work either.

Would you explain reader view or point to an explanation, and maybe give a link 
to a page where it works?

Here's the webpage of instructions that I found: 
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clutter-free-web-pages


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Pursley
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 6:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening a second window in Firefox

I'm not much help here as I don't open new Firefox tabs.  I find that many of 
the sites I use work better with IE11 than Firefox.  My Fidelity Institutional 
site does not work at all with the current (ESL)Firefox version. I have Firefox 
as my default browser, mainly because I really like the alt/control/R function 
reader, which strips out extraneous information and often noxious audio inserts 
from articles I want to read.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening a second window in Firefox

[Jim Pursley]

I'm not much help here as I don't open new Firefox tabs.  I find that 
many of the sites I use work better with IE11 than Firefox.  My Fidelity 
Institutional site does not work at all with the current (ESL)Firefox 
version. I have Firefox as my default browser, mainly because I really 
like the alt/control/R function reader, which strips out extraneous 
information and often noxious audio inserts from articles I want to read.


On 4/8/2018 6:25 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Thanks, Jim. That's the answer to the question I asked. But now, when I open a 
new tab, instead of getting just a edit field for the URL, I get a lot of 
information through which I need to arrow up and down. Is that your experience, 
too?

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From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Jim 
Pursley
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 4:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening a second window in Firefox

Hi, Adrian.  Control + N should open a new Window.  Control T opens a new tab.  
Using ESL, latest version of Firefox.

On 4/8/2018 4:01 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

My default browser is IE11. However, I'm having to use Firefox more and more. 
With IE, when I want to open a second window, I press control-t and enter the 
URL. However, although control-t seems to have the same function in Firefox, I 
can't get it to work. Can someone put me straight?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening a second window in Firefox

[Jim Pursley]

Hi, Adrian.  Control + N should open a new Window.  Control T opens a 
new tab.  Using ESL, latest version of Firefox.


On 4/8/2018 4:01 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

My default browser is IE11. However, I'm having to use Firefox more and more. 
With IE, when I want to open a second window, I press control-t and enter the 
URL. However, although control-t seems to have the same function in Firefox, I 
can't get it to work. Can someone put me straight?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and audible.com

[Jim Pursley]

Just hit the library link.  Ignore the pass through key.


On 3/10/2018 1:40 PM, Arianna Calesso wrote:

Is anyone having trouble using the audible.com site?  I just signed up to use 
audible but am having a problem accessing library.  I'm told to use pass key 
through but still can't get into the library.

Can anyone help?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird

[Jim Pursley]

Thunderbird help apparently has a tutorial.  See the google search link 
below.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp=5siDWsWVHMaKwgSp-4PgDA=Mozilla+thunderbird%2Ctutorial=Mozilla+thunderbird%2Ctutorial_l=psy-ab.3..0l3j0i22i30k1l4.4281.17208.0.17657.46.27.10.6.9.0.335.2509.6j12j1j1.20.00...1c.1.64.psy-ab..10.36.2716...0i22i10i30k1.0.i7EuKPtx2U4

You may want to do the google search yourself given the long link or 
copy it in  www.tinyurl.com or something like it.


Your top line menu has a help section, which I found useful.  You might 
also want to thoroughly familiarize yourself with the Options and 
Account areas of the Tools top line menu.


On 2/13/2018 7:11 PM, music_...@satx.rr.com wrote:

Now for example...how do you get to..inbox..or outbox..or whatever?
and. to reply?
I'd like to find a tutortial on this.
 "HICKS wrote:

You shouldn't really need any, it is a brilliant free application!
The only thing that I haven't been able to work out is how to create message 
rules or filters.


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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird

hi friends. Randy Tijerina here.
are there any scripts for thunderbird?
I got jaws2018.
I'll be heading for Austin  Texas for a few months. Those of you who have had 
to check mail from a web server know how frustrating it is.
May I ask for help to configure it?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows update can't install a certain update

[Jim Pursley]

Adrian..is the update in question already in your system.  I've noticed 
a raft of updates this month - about four of them.  But all installed 
successfully.  In a case such as yours, I'd call Microsoft's 
accessibility line for help.  I have generally found them helpful.  
Sorry for the punt.


On 1/21/2018 1:12 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Hi. I've been unable to install one of the recent Windows updates on my Windows 
7 machine. The others in that group installed successfully, but this one is a 
holdout. Does anyone have a suggestion? Here's the error message I receive:

Error(s) found:
Code 80073712 Windows Update encountered an unknown error.
Get help with this error

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Re: [JAWS-Users] thunderbird

[Jim Pursley]

Leonard nailed it.  Here's a wrinkle.  Just hitting enter defaults each 
addressee as a "to".  If you want an addressee to be a cc or a bcc just 
shift tab from the address line and arrow to the one you want.  I 
usually just enter down until I'm finished with addressees but sometimes 
I want a bcc to keep the addressee hidden from the others.  Bureaucratic 
tricks!


On 1/17/2018 8:14 AM, leonard morris wrote:
Dont' feel too bad because that use to frustrate me also. However, you 
really don't have to use the CC field. When you are on the to field 
put in the names press return until you have finished all the names. 
After that tab down to the subject line and then tab to the body of 
your message. That seems to work for me.



On 1/17/2018 1:24 AM, K M Davis wrote:
I am having a problem utilizing the cc and bc when sending a message 
in thunderbird email.  What are the steps?  I have no issue sending 
an email with only one recipient but when sending to multiple 
addresses it doesn't go to the original recipient, only to the those 
cc'd.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Forcing a form field to open

[Jim Pursley]

Does the form field show up in the form field list ins F5?  If so, hit 
enter on it (twice) and it may open.  Also, alt and the down arrow may 
open it - assuming you can land on the form field.




On 1/16/2018 2:34 PM, George Martinez Sr wrote:

Adrian,
Thanks for the ideas.  I will give them a try & report results.

George A. Martinez, CPA
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F-206.666.2589
C-602.368.5424
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the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to
Andy Rooney

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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Forcing a form field to open

Hi, George.

I don't have an answer to your specific question, but I do have some
thoughts.

First, once you've opened the page, try F5 to reload it and JAWS key+escape
to refresh. These two steps should ensure the page is stable.

You might also maximize the page with alt-spacebar followed by x.

You mention tabbing to get to the edit field. Tabbing will put you in the
edit field only if you're already in another edit field.

Finally, have you tried accessing the edit fields with another browser? I
was having a similar problem, only the reverse of yours. On a certain
website, I couldn't get into an edit field with IE11, but I could get there
with Chrome.

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Behalf Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 10:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Forcing a form field to open

Hello all,
I am using windows 10, 1709, JAWS 18 and Chrome.
I have gone to a web site I go to regularly and it normally lands on a
Username field then I go onto Password.
Today it is not in the Username and when I get there it will not accept
input.  I have tried Enter, Tabbing to the next field & Shift tabbing back,
also tried Alt + TAB and no joy on anything.
I also tried Ctrl + INS + HOME with no success.
I seem to remember that there is a JAWS command to force the field to
activate and accept input?  Is there such a command?
Thanks,
  
George A. Martinez, CPA

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Why does JAWS say "clickable" when it isn't?

[Jim Pursley]

I recall a response from FS that the "clickable" ghost issue is a known 
item and they're working on a fix.  I've no further information, 
though.  When I switched to Firefox as my default browser about 6 months 
ago when IE insisted on opening pdf's in the browser, the everpresent 
clickable sound was a real nuisance. Now it's just a nuisance.  Humans 
have a wonderful talent for drowning out useless noise so long as it 
does not tweak the emotions.


On 1/10/2018 9:59 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Hey everyone.

I know this topic came up here some time ago, but I'm afraid it wasn't
relevant to me at the time and wasn't a thread I took the time to read. So,
sorry for bringing it up again.

  


But yes, I was just wondering about this. I understand that there often *is*
"clickable" text on a webpage, and JAWS is trying to inform me of this fact.
But on many pages, every line will say "clickable", even though there is
nothing to click/nothing happens when you click. Why is this? And can I get
a happy medium somewhere? Obviously I don't want to miss important
information about a page, but when I'm reading a wikipedia article or IMDB
review or something and hear "clickable, clickable, clickable", on what
appears to be static text - that just seems like weird, excessive noise.

  


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Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

[Jim Pursley]

Indeed.  Firefox/Google captchas use the I am not a robot facility and 
lately when the captcha pops up the x is checked and I get a free pass.  
I am also finding that the audio rendition of the visual captcha is a 
lot more, well, audible, than it used to be.  So some improvement, anyway.


The I phone solution sounds marvelous - expanding the tool kit of 
techniques.


On 1/8/2018 3:13 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

I'm not sure about that, Dave. I was able to install it on Firefox, and it still appears 
in "Tools." However, it's been a very long time since I've encountered CAPTCHA 
and so needed to use Webvisum.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 12:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

Appears that Webvizum is dead.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Star Gazer" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 08:53
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA


Anybody use web vism?

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 4:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well.

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Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA?
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] VFO's Pearl Camera offer

[Jim Pursley]

Hi, Adrian

I have the Pearl/Open Book combination.  I use the camera for physical 
scanning.  It scans faster than a flat or curved bed scanner but 
scanning books must be done face up, presenting a bit of a problem for 
pressing down securely to get a good scan read.  I resolved the press 
down issue by putting a piece of glass over the book to be scanned and 
pressing down.  Scanning is then pretty comparable to the larger 
flat/curved bed machines.   The camera is mounted on a tripod, which 
folds up for travel.  In all, I'm pleased with the setup.


On 12/16/2017 12:27 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

JAWS 2018 purchasers are being offered a deal on VFO's Pearl Camera. I'd be 
interested in any thoughts on the value of this device. For example, if I'm 
away from my PC, does taking a photo with the Pearl have any use? Also, how 
does the Pearl/JFW compare to the KNFB Reader or any other accessible OCR 
device? Thanks. If I'm not asking the right questions, please ask and answer 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Keystrokes

[Jim Pursley]

Shift Control L, Adam, goes to the list (look on your top line menu when 
you have a message open.  Scroll over to messages and you'll see these 
options.


On 12/8/2017 10:03 PM, Adam Morris wrote:

Hi Mike and all,

When I use ctrl l the to field is blank.

I heard I think on the thunderbird forum that there is a bug with ctrl l.

When I reply to this message using ctrl r it just goes to Mike.

If I use ctrl shift r it goes to Mike and the list.

I went to the to field and deleted Mike so he doesn't get two copies.



On 09-Dec-17 08:18, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Jim,

Thank you for the correction.  I definitely read that table wrong, & 
Control

+ L is definitely the correct keystroke for replying to the list.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  
In the

end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Jim Pursley
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Keystrokes


Control R responds to a single user message. Shift Control R responds
to all (the list and the sender in this case) and Control L responds to
the list.

On 12/8/2017 5:37 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi David,

Yes, that would be my guess as well but Thunderbird also has a 
keystroke

for
replying to a list,
Control, Shift, + L

I found this by checking out the URL Hareth posted,

 http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/Thunderbird_5.html

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  
In the

end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Keystrokes


Making an educated guess I believe it would be the reply command not 
the

reply all command.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 1:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Keystrokes

Hi Hareth,

What keystroke is used to reply to a message from a group / list 
such as

this one, so the reply only goes to this list & noone else?  I hope I'm
making sense.  Thank you very much for your help.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  
In the

end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Hareth
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Keystrokes


Hi mike,
its:
Ctrl+R Reply to Message (sender only)
Ctrl+Shift+R Reply to all in Message

you may find this page useful:
http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/Thunderbird_5.html

TC

On 12/8/17, Mike B. <mike9...@gmx.com> wrote:

Hi All,

I would like to find out the reply to message only keystroke for 
Jaws &
Thunderbird for a fellow list member.  I have never used 
Thunderbird, so

I'm

not sure, & this will help this member not cross post / get their
messages
moderated wwhenever they reply or post.  Would someone please post the
send,

reply to current message, reply to all, & reply to sender  
keystrokes for
Jaws & Thunderbird?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks 
much.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In
the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Keystrokes

[Jim Pursley]

Control R responds to a single user message.  Shift Control R responds 
to all (the list and the sender in this case) and Control L responds to 
the list.


On 12/8/2017 5:37 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi David,

Yes, that would be my guess as well but Thunderbird also has a keystroke for
replying to a list,
Control, Shift, + L

I found this by checking out the URL Hareth posted,

http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/Thunderbird_5.html

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Keystrokes


Making an educated guess I believe it would be the reply command not the
reply all command.

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 1:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Keystrokes

Hi Hareth,

What keystroke is used to reply to a message from a group / list such as
this one, so the reply only goes to this list & noone else?  I hope I'm
making sense.  Thank you very much for your help.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Hareth
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 5:51 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Keystrokes


Hi mike,
its:
Ctrl+R Reply to Message (sender only)
Ctrl+Shift+R Reply to all in Message

you may find this page useful:
http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/Thunderbird_5.html

TC

On 12/8/17, Mike B.  wrote:

Hi All,

I would like to find out the reply to message only keystroke for Jaws &
Thunderbird for a fellow list member.  I have never used Thunderbird, so
I'm

not sure, & this will help this member not cross post / get their messages
moderated wwhenever they reply or post.  Would someone please post the
send,

reply to current message, reply to all, & reply to sender  keystrokes for
Jaws & Thunderbird?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Keystrokes

[Jim Pursley]

Control r.

On 12/8/2017 10:34 AM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

I would like to find out the reply to message only keystroke for Jaws &
Thunderbird for a fellow list member.  I have never used Thunderbird, so I'm
not sure, & this will help this member not cross post / get their messages
moderated wwhenever they reply or post.  Would someone please post the send,
reply to current message, reply to all, & reply to sender  keystrokes for
Jaws & Thunderbird?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] maximizing a window in IE?

[Jim Pursley]

Try from the desktop clicking on the IE icon, pressing the applications 
key, pressing R for properties and arrowing down toRun.  Tab and arrow 
to maximize.


On 11/15/2017 5:48 PM, Star Gazer wrote:

Hi. How do I minimize or maximize a window on IE using JFW 18.0?
Thank you


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Quantum is coming, and it doesn't like screen-readers

[Jim Pursley]

The  fs blog is available for
rss subscription.

On 10/26/2017 1:20 PM, Cher Bosch wrote:

I think this is the article you referenced:


This blog post was just sent out by Freedom Scientific. If you use JAWS and
Firefox, you need to read this.

Important information for users of Mozilla Firefox

Jonathan Mosen October 25, 2017 0

Overview

On November 14, Mozilla is expected to release a new version of its Firefox
web browser. Firefox 57 represents such a significant technical and
performance change that it's going to be known as Firefox Quantum. Mozilla
and mainstream reviewers of the beta code agree, the browser is much faster
and more memory efficient.

The reason why mainstream users will see such a significant speed increase
with Firefox Quantum is that it is switching to a multiprocess methodology.
Unfortunately, Mozilla in their switch to multiprocess for Firefox has
chosen an accessibility approach in which each call for JAWS to obtain
information takes orders of magnitude more time.  We are disappointed that
Mozilla has not at this time adopted the highly performant approach that
Google took with Chrome to increase security while at the same time allowing
screen readers to access information at unparalleled speed without needing
to make any changes.

For now, we recommend switching to the Extended Support Release (ESR) of
Firefox as work on the accessibility issues continues, because even when you
are running assistive technology that supports Firefox Quantum, performance
with Firefox will be much worse than you are used to. We're working with
Mozilla to improve the situation and are hopeful of further improvement.

We appreciate that if you're a Firefox user, it's software you are likely to
use many times every day. We want by way of this post to explain the
situation as it currently stands and how we got here, plus what we're doing
about it and steps you can take so that in the short to medium term, you can
use Firefox with the same degree of responsiveness you're used to.

Short-term Work-around

For now, there is a way to avoid upgrading to Firefox Quantum while keeping
your browser updated with important security fixes. You can install Firefox
ESR (Extended Support Release). The Quantum changes are not scheduled to be
rolled out to this release until the second quarter of 2018, by which time
we hope the accessibility situation with Firefox Quantum will have improved.

Compatibility

While we cannot recommend Firefox Quantum at this time, we appreciate that
some people may be curious and want to experiment with it. Firefox Quantum
will not work in any fashion unless you are running the latest versions of
JAWS 2018, JAWS 18, ZoomText 11 and MAGic 14. Previous versions of our
assistive technology are not compatible with Firefox Quantum.

To ensure Quantum will run at all, please ensure you are running the most
current version of the above technologies. Please visit our downloads page
for the latest software.

If going current with your assistive technology isn't possible, the Firefox
ESR release discussed above will continue to work at this time with the
technology you have. This will not always be the case, so if using Firefox
is important to you, you should make plans to bring your technology
up-to-date over the next few months.

When it is installed, Firefox Quantum will be able to detect if older
assistive technology is running that is not compatible. When this is the
case, Firefox Quantum will alert you to this.

Performance

Unfortunately, even if you have an assistive technology product that has
been updated to accommodate Mozilla's new approach, you will notice a
serious deterioration in performance. We would go as far as saying that at
this point, you would not want to use Firefox Quantum for your daily
browsing. Pages will take a long time to load, and navigating pages will be
problematic.

The reason for this is that Firefox's implementation of multiprocess has
caused a marked deterioration in the speed of communication between the
browser and assistive technology.

As our users who browse with Google Chrome, which has been using
multiprocess for some time, can confirm, multiprocess browsers can provide a
highly responsive experience comparable with what Firefox users are
accustomed to, and it is still our hope that Mozilla might adopt a similar
approach.

The problem created by Firefox Quantum is a complex technical one, but we
believe all our users are entitled to an explanation, so here's our best
shot. To give you a browsing experience that is the most flexible available,
as well as being intuitive and accurate, JAWS behaves a bit like an
impatient child on a long car journey. It asks Firefox many questions on a
regular basis, including "are we there yet". In the past, Firefox had no
difficulty answering all our questions quickly and patiently, meaning we
could always give you up-to-the-second information about what was happening
on the web page. For our readers with some 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Quantum is coming, and it doesn't like screen-readers

[Jim Pursley]

Helpful.  FSBlog a good resource.

On 10/26/2017 4:56 AM, Dennis Long wrote:

This should help.
http://blog.freedomscientific.com/2017/10/25/important-information-for-users
-of-mozilla-firefox/

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 12:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Quantum is coming, and it doesn't like
screen-readers

Where do I get the ESR extended support?
Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of cheez
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 12:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Quantum is coming, and it doesn't like
screen-readers

it figures.  Every time you take 3 steps forward, they push you back 2.

Vince

- Original Message -
From: "Joseph Lee" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Quantum is coming, and it doesn't like
screen-readers



Hi,
And Narrator won't work with it either.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of cheez
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 8:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Quantum is coming, and it doesn't
like screen-readers

You think Windows Narrator will work, since Narrator works with Edge?

Vince

- Original Message -
From: "JM Casey" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:57 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox Quantum is coming, and it doesn't like
screen-readers



So..

Has anyone Hey folks. Haven't seen any discussion about this yet. On
another list, someone posted an article about this, which I cannot
seem to find the URL for, but if people are interested I guess I
could cross-post it. In
brief: Firefox Quantum has a new "multiprocessing" approach that
means it will be twice as fast for everyone else, but it will not
play nicely with JAWS or other screen-readers. We're essentially at
the same stage now (or will be come November) as we are with Edge, in
that it's going to be a work in progress for quite some time, and
from what I've read, it may be difficult to continue implementing the
virtual buffer concept. This is, to me, annoying to say the least, as
I use Firefox all the time and have been really happy with it up til
now. I also think the virutal buffer a great innovation for web
browsing and would hate to give it up, unless a better alternative
was

developed.



Has anyone thoughts on this? I used to laugh at "old people" (in
quotes there, in case you have punctuation set to "some" or "none")
who moaned about things changing too fast and that they couldn't keep
up. Now, at 37, I'm feeling the bite. I'm happy to no longer be using
Windows XP, yet it seems like every month (since getting Windows 10
and JAWS 18 in particular), there's some new thing I have to fix that
wasn't broken before; some time I have to spend figuring a workaround
to one thing or another, or a doomful press release about how I won't
be able to use this-or-that once a certain update happens.



Fortunately, for us Firefox users, I guess we can still install the
ESR (Extended Support Release) of the browser, and get security
updates, without a Quantum upgrade, until sometime in 2018. Guess
I'll be doing that, then!





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Re: [JAWS-Users] adding accent marks with JAWS

[Jim Pursley]

Brilliant, Mike.  The Ins + 4 list is very handy but it does not have 
everything I need for Portuguese, like the circonflex and the tilde (or 
the uncle as they say here).


The Dodgers have turned murder's row from a batting context to a 
pitching context.  They did lose some 40-50 games during the regular 
season but it's hard to grasp when they'll lose their next playoff 
game.  It looks like L.A. and either New York or Houston.  The Yankees 
seem to have a reserve tank, winning when they must  .


On 10/18/2017 8:05 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Vicki,

If you want to add the accented letters manually you can access several from
the symbols list, Insert / Jaws key + 4, on the number row above the main
keyboard.  When you're typing a word & want to insert an accented letter, at
the spot you want to put the letter, open the symbols list, find the letter
/ symbol, & press enter.  Pressing enter on the symbol will put the selected
letter / symbol at the point where the cursor is located.

Here's a list of symbols that can be inserted using the numpad:
Key Commands for Spanish

Keyboard Commands for Accent Marks and Symbols

Make these accent marks and symbols by holding down the "Alt" key (by the
spacebar) and using the keypad at the right of the keyboard. Be sure the
"Num Lock" key/light is on or glowing. (For use in most word processing
applications/programs in Windows)

SPANISH

Alt 130 = é.
Alt 160 = á.
Alt 161 = í.
Alt 162 = ó.
Alt 163 = ú.
Alt 164 = ñ.
Alt 0209 = Ñ.
Alt 144 = É.
Alt 168 = ¿.
Alt 173 = ¡.
Alt 129 = ü.
Alt 148 = ö.

end

French

Windows users - Hold down the Alt key while typing the four digit code to
make special characters. (e.g. Alt+0252 = ü. You may have to use the number
pad to the right of your keyboard.)

Mac Users - Hold down the Option key, and press the character indicated
above, then release the option key and type the letter you need. (i.e.
Option + U [release] + u = ü)

end

GERMAN

Alt 0228 = ä.
Alt 0246 = ö.
Alt 0252 = ü.
Alt 0196 = Ä.
Alt 0124 = Ö.
Alt 0220 = Ü.
Alt 0223 = ß.

end

alt + 0191 ¿.
alt + 0192 À.
alt + 0193 Á.
alt + 0194 Â.
alt + 0195 Ã.
alt + 0196 Ä.
alt + 0197 Å.
alt + 0198 Æ.
alt + 0199 Ç.
alt + 0200 È.
alt + 0201 É.
alt + 0202 Ê.
alt + 0203 Ë.
alt + 0204 Ì.
alt + 0205 Í.
alt + 0206 Î.
alt + 0207 Ï.
alt + 0208 Ð.
alt + 0209 Ñ.
alt + 0210 Ò.
alt + 0211 Ó.
alt + 0212 Ô.
alt + 0213 Õ.
alt + 0214 Ö.
alt + 0215 ×.
alt + 0216 Ø.
alt + 0217 Ù.
alt + 0218 Ú.
alt + 0219 Û.
alt + 0220 Ü.
alt + 0221 Ý.
alt + 0223 ß.
alt + 0224 à.
alt + 0225 á.
alt + 0226 â.
alt + 0227 ã.
alt + 0228 ä.
alt + 0229 å.
alt + 0230 æ.
alt + 0231 ç.
alt + 0232 è.
alt + 0233 é.
alt + 0234 ê.
alt + 0235 ë.
alt + 0236 ì.
alt + 0237 í.
alt + 0238 î.
alt + 0239 ï.
alt + 0240 ð.
alt + 0241 ñ.
alt + 0242 ò.
alt + 0243 ó.
alt + 0244 ô.
alt + 0245 õ.
alt + 0246 ö.
alt + 0247 ÷.
alt + 0248 ø.
alt + 0249 ù.
alt + 0250 ú.
alt + 0251 û.
alt + 0252 ü.
alt + 0253 ý.
alt + 0254 þ.
alt + 0255 is a y with 2 dots above it and Jaws won't read it for some
reason.
Near as I can figure the alt 0255 is called a diæresis, at least according
to my research any way.  This is according to the research of David Ferrin.



Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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- Original Message -
From: Vicki W.
To: JAWS
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 2:44 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] adding accent marks with JAWS


Is there a way to have JAWS automatically add accent marks in a foreign
language word when writing in English?

For example, if I were to write the name Therese which is a French name but
I am writing the document in English, can the correct accent marks be either
added or automatically set to add any time I write the name?

If I need to add them manually, how can I locate them on the keyboard? Not
all of them are on the standard typing keyboard.

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS 18 build

[Jim Pursley]

Thank you.

On 10/14/2017 8:19 PM, Eric Damery wrote:

I have been asking that support and Test staff spend more time on Thunderbird. 
Please continue to report your results with specifics on versions installed, 
OS, and exact steps with expected results.

Regards,
Eric Damery


On Oct 14, 2017, at 6:43 PM, Maria Campbell 
> wrote:

Uh huh.


lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 10/14/2017 1:24 PM, cheez wrote:
Thunderbird wasn't mentioned in the fix.  I don't think there are many that use 
it.

Vince



- Original Message - From: "Maria Campbell" 
>
To: >
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS 18 build


Really? And why would that be?


lucky1i...@gmail.com

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--St. Francis

On 10/11/2017 12:27 AM, cheez wrote:
I don't think they fix was for Thunderbird. Just Outlook.

Vince

- Original Message - From: "Maria Campbell" 
>
To: >
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 3:55 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS 18 build


I see this build still did not fix the inability to read the amount of messages 
in Thunderbird folders by pressing insert plus num pad 3.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] making jaws work with thunder bird

[Jim Pursley]

    JAWS works fine for me on all versions of Thunderbird.  There's a 
catch, though.  JAWS 18 is the only version which will read the in box.  
Earlier versions of JAWS won't read the in box.  Google any questions 
you have about Thunderbird and an answer will likely pop up from the 
Thunderbird Forum or Thunderbird help.


On 9/23/2017 11:26 AM, joanne wrote:

My friend uses Jaws but for whatever reason her instructor wants her to learn 
Thunderbird.  The instructor isn't real familiar with Windows and said it 
looked like Jaws can't work with this email program.  He said another 
screenreader would work better but, like me, she wants to use Jaws for 
everything.  Are there scripts needed to make it work better?

Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] a way to shorten a link

[Jim Pursley]

I think it has to do with wrap around when copying a long link.  Can 
fragment.  I use www.tinyurl.com (which I think is the first of the 
species).


On 9/18/2017 2:00 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Hey.
I have known about this for a while but never used it, and to be honest,
never really understood the purpose. Maybe I'm weird but when I see people
post links like this I always get kind of annoyed that I can't immediately
read the actual URL before going to the link. Is there a purpose to this
beyond some vague aesthetics? Something to do with a character limit for
posting, say on Twitter? Just chiming in out of curiosity mostly.



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Behalf Of Valiant8086
Sent: September 18, 2017 12:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] a way to shorten a link

Hi.


Paste the original link into the edit field at http://bit.ly. It'll spit out
a shortened link you can copy and distribute, and when the recipients click
on the shortened link it goes to the original URL. Is this what you're
asking?


Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -
http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 9/18/2017 8:39 AM, james wrote:

is their a way to shorten a link that you are trying to open For
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Re: [JAWS-Users] stopping music

[Jim Pursley]

Here's an interesting workaround possibility.  I've noticed that when an 
add or  music starts from a web page and I switch to Firefox View (alt 
control R) the noise stops.  Fireffox view does not work on web pages 
that have security blocks but it works on the majority of them including 
the NYTimes and the Washington Post.


On 9/12/2017 4:01 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Internet Explorer has an option in its preferences to disable sounds in
webpages. You could also try that. I don't use iE myself anymore and I
haven't found this option in Firefox, but I haven't really looked into it
extensively. Some of these pages that autoplay music have a frame in them
with a series of buttons, including one that lets you stop or pause the
audio. So depending on the page, also try navigating to buttons using "b",
or even using the find feature to look for a word like "stop" sometimes
works.

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Behalf Of Valiant8086
Sent: September 12, 2017 2:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] stopping music

Sometimes hitting esc works. If your computer currently supportsx, is not
running the win 10 creaters update, you can make jaws fade away the
background music" pressing insert space, then uh, d?


Cheers:
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http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 9/8/2017 2:36 PM, Vicki wrote:

How can I get the music to stop playing on a webpage when I open the page?

Moving away from the page and going back doesn't work.

Thank  you.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

[Jim Pursley]

    I ran across the same issue with an audible download list box. Alt 
arrow and arrowing did nothing.  I did not stay with the issue because I 
was not really interested in the list box items and moved on to my 
download. But I too have encountred some hoakey list boxes.  Here's the 
following from a google search, leading me to a document on 
/Geocities.com which discussed JAWS and key strokes.  No date, 
unfortunately.

http://www.geocities.ws/jawsnotes/menus_shortcuts.htm

I have not yet tried the instructions.
Here's the relevant text on list boxes
A list box displays a list of choices in a rectangular box where you 
pick your choice from the list. There are two types, open and drop-down. 
An open list
box automatically displays all choices that will fit the box, while a 
drop-down list box displays one choice, and displays the rest by a 
mouse-user clicking

the list box or its arrow button.

There is probably some useful information in the JAWS Keystrokes list.
Arrow down to activate the list box. Then use up or down arrow to scroll 
through options.  The Home key will move the cursor focus to the first 
item in
the list.  The End key will move the focus to the last item.  Type the 
first letter of an option to move focus directly to it in the drop down 
list.


Spacebar selects an item in a list. When you have selected an item you 
can press INSERT + UP ARROW to read the selected item.


Tab selects the option in the List box which is read by Jaws and moves 
to next option in dialog box.


Ctrl Spacebar Selects another item in the list box in non-continuous 
mode.  The same as pressing Ctrl + left click.  Ctrl down or up arrow 
permits non-continuous
selection of items in a list box.  When used for the first time, the 
item that you move away from stays selected.   Shift down or up arrow 
continuous selection

of items in a list box.



On 9/11/2017 9:11 PM, Pam Mahuika wrote:

They aren't combo boxes and alt down arrow doesn't work on list boxes.

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Behalf Of michaeel's mail
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2017 11:52 a.m.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

Try alt plus down arrow on the combo boxes.
That should exspand them.
cheers Michael.

-Original Message-
From: Pam Mahuika
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 9:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

Ok These list boxes are on the gmail web site when setting up a new Gmail
account.  They aren't  combo boxes and using arrows doesn't work so any more
suggestions would be appreciated.

Pam Mahuika

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2017 11:08 a.m.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

If it is a conbo box, use alt down arrow to open it.  A normal list box
should just be able to be navigated with using the arrow kesy.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Mahuika
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

How how do you navigate list boxes using jfw17 and 18?

Pam Mahuika


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 and Open Book

[Jim Pursley]

Try this.  In the pdf, hit control P.  A list of printers should come 
up.  Click on the Freedom Printer and an Open Book file will open with 
the pdf in it.  You can then save it to  various places including a Word 
document if you wish.


On 9/4/2017 3:39 PM, wayne smith wrote:

I have seen that printer listed when I go to print a document.  How do I use it 
to read a graphic pdf?

Wayne

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Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2017 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 and Open Book

Agree.  Open Book carries with it a handy "Freedom printer" which is able to 
open a secure graphically sent pdf so that I might read it.
Nothing else works, not even JAWS OCR.  I suppose that I could print to my HP 
printer, too, but I'd be using quite a bit of paper and would need to 
physically  scan each page.  So, Open Book is my buddy.



On 9/4/2017 1:31 PM, Valiant8086 wrote:

Hi.

According to Erik on the latest episode of the FSCast podcast, Open
book is still relevant. It gives you the 3 OCR engines in one package
for better accuracy, an easy to use self voiced interface, ability to
edit recognized content and a whole host of extra goodies enabling you
to really do a number on scanning that document or book and making it
as good as possible. It's for more serious occasions where JAWS
acquire image OCR capability is for the casual user who wants to check
mail or quickly read a book etc. You could of course acquire the text
of an image then copy and paste it out of the results viewer into word
pad or something similar and there's your editing capability. HJ Pad
for that matter.


So said, right now it doesn't sound like VFO is interested in
discontinuing Open Book in favor of using that OCR which is included
in JAWS.


Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -
http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 8/31/2017 5:58 PM, Blackwell, Clifford wrote:

Does anyone know if with the inclusion of the scanning features in
JAWS 2018 if VFO is intending to end support or development of Open
Book?  It has been quite a while since there were any
updates/improvements to Open Book and this new feature set would seem
to indicate a lack of interest in maintaining Open Book as a separate
product line.

If that is the case, does anyone know what OCR programs are being
used in JAWS 2018 to perform the recognition and will there be ways
to "tweek" the performance as there is in Open Book?

It's an interesting release and future developments will be interesting.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 and Open Book

[Jim Pursley]

Agree.  Open Book carries with it a handy "Freedom printer" which is 
able to open a secure graphically sent pdf so that I might read it. 
Nothing else works, not even JAWS OCR.  I suppose that I could print to 
my HP printer, too, but I'd be using quite a bit of paper and would need 
to physically  scan each page.  So, Open Book is my buddy.




On 9/4/2017 1:31 PM, Valiant8086 wrote:

Hi.

According to Erik on the latest episode of the FSCast podcast, Open 
book is still relevant. It gives you the 3 OCR engines in one package 
for better accuracy, an easy to use self voiced interface, ability to 
edit recognized content and a whole host of extra goodies enabling you 
to really do a number on scanning that document or book and making it 
as good as possible. It's for more serious occasions where JAWS 
acquire image OCR capability is for the casual user who wants to check 
mail or quickly read a book etc. You could of course acquire the text 
of an image then copy and paste it out of the results viewer into word 
pad or something similar and there's your editing capability. HJ Pad 
for that matter.



So said, right now it doesn't sound like VFO is interested in 
discontinuing Open Book in favor of using that OCR which is included 
in JAWS.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy 
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - 
http://valiantGalaxy.com;




On 8/31/2017 5:58 PM, Blackwell, Clifford wrote:
Does anyone know if with the inclusion of the scanning features in 
JAWS 2018 if VFO is intending to end support or development of Open 
Book?  It has been quite a while since there were any 
updates/improvements to Open Book and this new feature set would seem 
to indicate a lack of interest in maintaining Open Book as a separate 
product line.


If that is the case, does anyone know what OCR programs are being 
used in JAWS 2018 to perform the recognition and will there be ways 
to "tweek" the performance as there is in Open Book?


It's an interesting release and future developments will be interesting.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018

[Jim Pursley]

Sure.  Just keep JAWS 18 on your system, access via short cut key, close 
one and open the other.  You can't have both open at the same time.


On 8/31/2017 10:25 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote:

I have a question about it?

Am I able to switch between jaws 18 and jaws 2018?

-Original Message- From: Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 2:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018

You can't make it  magically appear now? :)

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 5:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018

It will magically appear on Thursday, 8/31 at 10:00 AM Eastern Time. You
will find it at www.freedomscientific.com under the "News" heading.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F
727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Danny
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 4:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018

The fscast stated that the beta of 2018 should be available about the 
time
of the podcast.  I have been unable to find the beta file to 
download.  Does

anyone have any idea where I can find this download?

Danny
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[JAWS-Users] Quick JAWS restart

[Jim Pursley]

Someone, I think Maria Campbell, gave the list keystrokes for quickly 
starting JAWS after it goes silent.  Possible to provide again?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox issue - sometimes links and buttons don't actuate

[Jim Pursley]

No, I don't use the No Scripts add on.

I'll pull together a couple of sites on which at least some links did 
not work, but have no time right now.  Thanks, all, for the response.  
As Christopher Robin said, Backson.


On 8/22/2017 8:26 PM, net bat66 wrote:

are you useing a add on called no script or simular?
many web pages use scripts for there links and controls. with the no 
script add on it will prevent many links and buttons from activateing 
unless you disable the scripts for virtually every web page you go to.


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Firefox issue - sometimes links and buttons 
don't actuate


Using Firefos 53, Win7 and JaWS 18 I'moccasionally (a lot more than I'd
like) experiencing buttons and links not actuating when I press the
various mouse substitutes available with JAWS. Sometimes these links
work from the links and buttons lists, sometimes not.  Most of the time
the links and buttons work on IE 11.    Anyone with insight on resolving
my issue other than to change browsers?



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[JAWS-Users] Firefox issue - sometimes links and buttons don't actuate

[Jim Pursley]

Using Firefos 53, Win7 and JaWS 18 I'moccasionally (a lot more than I'd 
like) experiencing buttons and links not actuating when I press the 
various mouse substitutes available with JAWS. Sometimes these links 
work from the links and buttons lists, sometimes not.  Most of the time 
the links and buttons work on IE 11.    Anyone with insight on resolving 
my issue other than to change browsers?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......

[Jim Pursley]

To zap the JAWS virtual ribbons option press ins and j.  Ah and arrow 
down to JAWS setup wizard Alt N to the third screen.  arrow down to turn 
on virtual ribbons and uncheck the box.  You can always recheck  the box 
if you wish.


On 8/20/2017 11:28 AM, Laura Richardson wrote:

Would you or somebody please tell me how to turn off the virtual ribbon?

Laura


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..

I would turn off the virtual ribbon. It is handy, but you become dependent
on them and they don't work as well as the original menus, since they don't
use first-letter navigation. I tried them briefly years ago and decided to
buckle down and just learn to use the ribbons.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Laura Richardson" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 06:58
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..


Hello,



When it comes to navigating MS Word ribbons I'm pretty much a beginner.
I've memorized certain shortcut keys to do very specific things but need to
learn how to navigate these ribbons.



Right now virtual ribbons are turned on .. Would it be easier and more
efficient to learn the ribbons if I turned this off?  I want and need to
learn as much as I can so any feedback and suggestions are greatly
appreciated.



Thanks in advance,

Laura









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Re: [JAWS-Users] excel reading headers.

[Jim Pursley]

The simplest way to mark row and column headers for JAWS reading is not, 
however, always a permanent one.  The process I use is so simple and 
quick that it's OK if I occasionally need to restate them.


Press the JAWS key (insert) but first make sure it's a sticky key so 
that it will stay actuated while you press other keys.  Then hold down 
the alt and control keys while pressing r, then c.  R marks the row 
headers and C marks column headers.  Before you press the short cut keys 
though you need to move the virtual cursor (speaking JAWS) to the 
intersection of rows and columns that you want to speak. Note you may 
mark either R, C or both as you need.  JAWS will speak the header as you 
cross it.


On 8/15/2017 2:52 AM, Micallef Michael at FITA wrote:

Dear jaws Users,

I'm just new user of Jaws, and previously I was using Window-Eyes. So Far So 
good, I manage to learn to use the most basic things in Jaws, but one thing is 
still give me hassle to learn how to do it, and this is how to setup Jaws to 
read the excel headers. I followed the manual but I manage to succeed once, but 
from then onwards I never to succeed to setup jaws to read excel headers.  And 
another point the manual sometimes make it difficult to understand every step, 
so it is possible that I'm missing something here. So can someone do me a great 
faviour and send me step by step instructions how I supposedly should program 
Jaws to read these excel headers.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS & Fix It

[Jim Pursley]

Yep.  VFO ran a repair for me too yesterday using the method Adrian 
listed.  Happy camper.


On 8/8/2017 4:31 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Robin,

Read what's below & give it a try, it works well:

From: Adrian Spratt
Hi. I'm writing to explain the new JAWS repair method I learned today from
VFO. Previously, I'd taken the file of the currently running JAWS build, put
it in the C drive, copied the exact wording into a Windows run dialog, etc.
this procedure failed twice for me today. VFO seems to know about this
because when I called, they had me follow the procedure I'll detail below,
and it worked. I don't know why it is different, but somehow it is. So, here
goes.

First, make sure you have the .exe file on your system for the JAWS build
you're running. You can download it from the FS/VFO website.

Unlike before, it doesn't seem to matter where you keep it on your system.

Close all running apps.

Highlight the JAWS .exe file.

Press shift-F10.

Arrow up to "Copy as path." Press enter.

Open the run dialog with Windows key-r.

Press control-v, then spacebar, then / (the forward slash key), then the
word "type", spacebar, and then the word "repair."

Let me try that command line a different way. After pressing control-v
followed by the spacebar, continue with /type repair

Then press enter.

The process went more smoothly than any JAWS repair I can remember, and it
went all the way to the end.

I hope this is useful.
Adrian
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Robin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 11:12 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS & Fix It


To Whom It May Concern:

Can someone, who is Knowledgeable as it pertains to The Steps
associated with Fixingg JAWS, Please provide me with The Steps?

I need The Steps to Fix My Copies of JAWS (JAWS14) & JAWS (JAWS15) on
My Windows7 PC. My JAWS14 & JAWS15 became Corrupt when I accidently
UpDated My JAWS16 WithOut activating JAWS16 & I was using JAWS14 at
the Time of the UpDate.

Your assistance is Very Much & Greatly appreciated!


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[JAWS-Users] Issue with Thunderbird latest and pdfs resident on the web

[Jim Pursley]

I'm getting a buffering effect on Thunderbird when I scroll the inbox 
and write messages after reading pdf's resident on the internet - but 
not after reading pdf's which come as email attachments.  The key 
response delay happens intermittently, but often enough to be a bother 
until I reboot Windows and Tbird returns to its happy normal self.  
Windows task manager shows no untoward processes running, so I should 
have plenty of processing memory.


Running JAWS 18 latest build, Win7 and Firefox latest.  IE11 insists on 
opening pdf's in the browser no matter what I attempted (even looking 
for the add on to turn off)


FS email tech support suggests uninstalling JAWS 18 and reinstalling it, 
but I'm skeptical that it would accomplish anything.


Anyone else with this issue?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving online Adobe Document

[Jim Pursley]

When all else fails copy to word or notepad using Cntrl A and read/save 
there.


It sounds as if the save command is an unmarked graphic.  I think there 
is a way to custom mark graphics so they are "visible". Ins. F2 gets you 
jaws managers.  Arrow down to custom label to see if that makes the save 
command usable.


On 8/3/2017 10:32 AM, Vicki wrote:
Yes, it is set correctly, but there are certain PDF documents on 
certain websites that will only open on the webpage and then you can 
save them. This is one of those.



- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Pursley" 
<jim.purs...@gaiacapital.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving online Adobe Document


Is your adobe reader configured to read pdf's in the browser? You'll 
find the check box to do so or not do do so in the accessibility 
wizard in your adobe reader.  Alt v for the view menu and arrow down 
to accessibility. Right arrow and select accessibility wizard.  Just 
click next until you reach the last page and uncheck the box read in 
browser.  Online pdf's should read directly on your system.  This 
said, I had to switch to firefox as my default browser from ie11 as I 
could not find a way to get online pdf's to read on my system.


when in the browser navigation is nigh to impossible.

On 8/3/2017 1:33 AM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
Vicki, I wonder if pressing alt-s for save will work at the step 
where you wish to save. In other words, don't try to find the save 
option, but go right to it with the shortcut.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Vicki

Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 12:04 AM
To: JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Saving online Adobe Document

Good Evening,

I have had this problem for quite awhile since my bank changed its 
layout and I'm wondering, if with the updates to JAWS, there is a 
solution.


Here is my issue.

I want to save the Adobe .PDF document of my monthly bank statement 
from the website. Before, all I had to do was select the correct 
one, right click and save target as.


Now, however, I first have to select an item in each of the 
following combo boxes, name of the document, month and year for the 
document and then type of document.


Once that is finished, I then select a button "Get Document."

It then opens up the .PDF online and in the menu when right 
clicking, there are several options, one of them is "SAVE," which is 
not  visible to me. Others are, but not "Save."
  There is no other way to save this document to my computer without 
selecting the "Get Document" button and opening it first.


I have to have someone click on the "Save" button and then it takes 
me to the area where I can name the document, choose the 
destination, etc.


I have encountered this on a few other websites as well.

Does JAWS now offer some way of reading that grayed out area to save 
the document for these types of Adobe .PDF files.


I have found no other way of doing it.

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving online Adobe Document

[Jim Pursley]

Is your adobe reader configured to read pdf's in the browser? You'll 
find the check box to do so or not do do so in the accessibility wizard 
in your adobe reader.  Alt v for the view menu and arrow down to 
accessibility.  Right arrow and select accessibility wizard.  Just click 
next until you reach the last page and uncheck the box read in browser.  
Online pdf's should read directly on your system.  This said, I had to 
switch to firefox as my default browser from ie11 as I could not find a 
way to get online pdf's to read on my system.


when in the browser navigation is nigh to impossible.

On 8/3/2017 1:33 AM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Vicki, I wonder if pressing alt-s for save will work at the step where you wish 
to save. In other words, don't try to find the save option, but go right to it 
with the shortcut.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Vicki
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 12:04 AM
To: JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Saving online Adobe Document

Good Evening,

I have had this problem for quite awhile since my bank changed its layout and 
I'm wondering, if with the updates to JAWS, there is a solution.

Here is my issue.

I want to save the Adobe .PDF document of my monthly bank statement from the 
website. Before, all I had to do was select the correct one, right click and 
save target as.

Now, however, I first have to select an item in each of the following combo 
boxes, name of the document, month and year for the document and then type of 
document.

Once that is finished, I then select a button "Get Document."

It then opens up the .PDF online and in the menu when right clicking, there are several options, 
one of them is "SAVE," which is not  visible to me. Others are, but not "Save."
  
There is no other way to save this document to my computer without selecting the "Get Document" button and opening it first.


I have to have someone click on the "Save" button and then it takes me to the 
area where I can name the document, choose the destination, etc.

I have encountered this on a few other websites as well.

Does JAWS now offer some way of reading that grayed out area to save the 
document for these types of Adobe .PDF files.

I have found no other way of doing it.

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] forwarding a message with thunderbird

[Jim Pursley]

I forward messages using the top line menus.  Alt M gets you the message 
menu and f gets you forward.  No need to remember hot keys. After 
hitting f a new email pops up with the forwarded text below it You 
should land right on the "To" line.  Many roads up Thunderbird mountain.


On 8/1/2017 9:23 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
Sorry disregard previous message.  After pressing control plus l, tab 
to main body of message and then press control plus enter.



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On 8/1/2017 6:44 PM, leonard morris wrote:
I am using  Thunderbird email client v45.8.0 latest jaws and windows 
seven. I was trying to forward an email using ctrl l to bring up 
forward which worked but when I used ctrl enter to send the message 
the email went nowhere. When I looked at the file menu the forward 
option was unavailable. I closed Thunderbird which gave me the option 
to save the message to draft. When I reopened Thunderbird and went to 
draft the message was there but again I could not forward it.






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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and PDF?

[Jim Pursley]

If you have Open Book you'll find that you'll seldom use Convenient 
OCR.  You can read scanned and secure pdf's in Open Book as well as any 
other scanned material larger than a banner (convenient OCR may be 
better for small scans).  You might want to make a short cut  key for 
Open Book (I use O).   To access scanned material just hit Control P and 
your printers will pop up..Open Book is your Freedom printer.  Just 
click on the name and your doc will open in Open Book.  JAWS will now 
work in Open Book, so you don't need to suppress JAWS.  Open Book has a 
really good help section. Just use F6 to toggle.  You may need no 
training to use it.


Mike B. did a marvelous job of listing the preparations JAWS users need 
to make for Adobe DC (latest).  You will need to use the accessibility 
wizard and to uncheck some items in the preferences tree.  In adobe, 
just hit control K and the list will pop up.  Go to enhanced scecurity 
and uncheck protected view.  In the accessibility wizard you will also 
want to uncheck opening the pdf's in the browser.  I particularly like 
reading a whole document, not page by page - even long documents.  Most 
newer computers are fast enough to load even a 70 or so page pdf with 
some ease.


Tehre are of course more detailed instructions to give but you may be 
aable to complete your pdf orientation with the above suggestions.)


On 7/22/2017 8:17 PM, Michele Thredgold wrote:

Hi everyone. I'm still getting my head around JAWS 18. How do you access 
Convenient OCR? Also, I purchased OpenBook a few months ago and am still on the 
waiting list for training. Can anyone give me a few pointers to get started 
with PDFS?

Thanks

Michele

- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt  
To: "jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com"   
Date: Wednesday, 12 July 2017 5:56 am
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and PDF?



Hi, Vicky. I'll answer with a qualified yes. I'm assuming that JAWS 16 doesn't 
have the Convenient OCR feature, but I could be wrong. With convenient OCR, 
JAWS makes it easy to convert PDF files. The typical sequence of keystrokes is 
JAWS key+spacebar, then o for OCR, then d for document. You wait a while, not 
long at all for short documents and maybe a few minutes for longer ones, and 
then the text of the PDF file is displayed in a new window.

If you can live with those steps, the Convenient OCR feature is well 
worthwhile. I use it all the time.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 3:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and PDF?

Hi List, I am wondering if it is worth spending the money to upgrade to 18 from 
the latest 16.  If you say that it can read PDFs without going through 
recognition steps, then, it will be worth it for me.

Please let me know.

Sincerely, Vicky Vaughan
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Re: [JAWS-Users] excel sheet

[Jim Pursley]

You'll need to use the ribbon menus to delete a sheet.

Hit the alt key and arrow down the Home menu to cells submenu. Arrow to 
delete cells.  press enter and you'll find a split button menu.  . Hit 
it and arrow to delete sheet.  make sure that the sheet you want to 
delete is the one you're on and hit delete and zap, it will be gone.


I forgot this routine (it's not exactly obvious) but did a goodle search 
for Excel 2010,delete worksheet and the second answer was a bingo (from 
Microsoft no less).


I tried it and deleted sheet 3 of 3.
The context menu's delete function is for rows or columns (you can get 
there alternatively by using the hot key combo Alt E,d and then 4 
options will pop up - the same 4 as in the context key).


On 7/8/2017 2:53 PM, patti wrote:

Hey Gang,

I'm running jaws 18, and MS excel 2010.

How do you delete a sheet?

I have 4 in a book, but I want to delete the last sheet.

Thanks for any help.

Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Request for suggestion for an accessible rss reader for firefox

[Jim Pursley]

I use the Old Reader (essentially the Google Reader continued).  It 
works fine with IE and Firefox as well.



www.theoldreader.com.

Premium version is $3 a month.
On 7/5/2017 10:28 AM, Jitendra Kumar wrote:

Hello friends, I used sage fx once, and it had the following:
pressing alt+z opens a tree, where you can select items from the
bookmarks menu, and it included all the folders, pressing tab landed
on another tree, which displayed the titles of the articles, if we
press enter on an item, that will open in the page display window, and
if we press enter on a folder from the previous tree, all the articles
were displayed in the page display window, and using virtual cursor
and heading, we could read the articles on one single page,
I now want to have such a nice reader for rss for firefox, some of
them I tried, but unable to find the content of the article. Thank
you.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] starting jaws manually

[Jim Pursley]

In the JAWS set up wizard you can access jaws from the system tray 
(ins/f11), too.

Use whatever hot key combo that you will remember and have not used before.

I use alt/control J for the current one and another letter for a prior 
one (I always keep the current version and the prior one).


On 7/2/2017 10:13 PM, mack wrote:
i'm finally going to install jaws before f s o takes away my window 
eyes migration deal. however, i don't want jaws to load at startup, i 
just want to use it manually. when i first install jaws, i will set 
windows to not load at the log in screen or at windows startup, 
because i know jaws will load automatically, where do i go to stop 
jaws from loading at startup, is ctrl alt j a good hot key to use to 
start jaws manually?




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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS layered keystrokes

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The ins/spacebar/t layered keystroke stays in effect until you hit 
escape or any other key.  You can reactuate table navigation at any time 
in the table.


It goes off when you exit the table.

Some tables are set up by the publisher to read not only the cell in 
question but it's column, too, as you go across a row.


The table keystrokes and the quick title identifier Excel keystrokes 
(Alt/control.R and alt control T, are also awesome navigational aids.


This said, I'm encountering some recently programmed web pages where the 
tagblee consists only of column heads.  Everything else is a "grid".  I 
have not yet found a way to read a grid like a table - vertically as 
well as horizontally.




On 7/1/2017 3:10 PM, Jim Flusche wrote:

I think if you press the Escape key, Jaws will go back to reading the normal 
tables.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of George Martinez
Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2017 1:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS layered keystrokes

Hello,
I have recently seen where I can use JAWS key + Space Bar then select T to help 
announce rows & columns in a Table.
Is this a toggle or does it only stay in effect for the session?
George


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[JAWS-Users] Maximizing windows in Win7

[Jim Pursley]

position on the desktop icon whose windows you want to maximize. Hit the 
applications key, type r and tab a bit down to Run. There are 3 options, 
default is normal window.  Choose maximize .


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[JAWS-Users] A wrinkle on my "clickable" question yesterday

[Jim Pursley]

It's Firefox, not JAWS, that seems to find a clickable element at the 
end of many sentences and at various parts of a web page. So I hit enter 
and all of the other mouse click permutations I know and I do not get 
carried to a new place.  A clickable dud.


I did an experiment.  I ran across a web page in FF that liberally 
spread clickable around.  I copied the link to thepage andpasted it into 
Ie11.  Nada.  Blessed silence save the text.


Any Firefoxers out there who can guide me to reining in he clickables on FF?

Tks.

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[JAWS-Users] How to remove "clickable" from Firefox web pages

[Jim Pursley]

While on web pages using the latest Firefox browser version JAWS 
pronounces the word "clickable" more times than clickable opportunities 
exist.  How to suppress JAWS saying clickable in Firefox Using Win7, 
latest JAWS 18 build.?


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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 and Thunderbird

[Jim Pursley]

J18 is the only version of JAWS currently capable of reading 
Thunderbird's mailboxes, if I'm right.  I'm uncomfortable not having a 
JAWS backup to work my entire system.  Anyone know if J17 can be 
configured with the latest J18 build which lifted the awesome silence 
when opening my Thunderbird in box?  Eric?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to stop Jaws from announcing "super script"

[Jim Pursley]

Try this.  Copy to Notepad and see if you have the same experience.

On 4/11/2017 3:12 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:

Hi Adrian,
I get a daily Bible reading by email and that is where it says super script
before and after every verse number.  So I am wondering if there is a way to
stop this from happening. I know I could stop Jaws from announcing "blank"
by going into the settings center as by Mike B. instructions. I looked
through that this morning but did not see anything to change to stop Jaws
from announcing it. Maybe I missed something and someone has an idea how I
can stop Jaws from announcing super script before and after every number in
my Bible reading.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to stop Jaws from announcing "super script"

So, to be clear, you use Outlook 2010 both for your bible reading and your
email? How strange, then, that the superscript verbalization was omitted
when you sent a message to the list. I figured you were reading the bible in
a different application. As I tried to explain, in my experience, JAWS
doesn't say "superscript" in Outlook, but it does in Word. Sorry, Ed, I'm
really not trying to give you a hard time, just to understand the problem so
that I or someone else can help.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to stop Jaws from announcing "super script"

Hi,
I use Outlook 2010 to read my daily Bible reading. Any ideas on how to stop
it from reading that?
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 10:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to stop Jaws from announcing "super script"

Ed, I find that JAWS announces superscript in MS Word but not in my Outlook
email messages. So you may still have the problem. Which application do you
use to read that bible?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 10:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to stop Jaws from announcing "super script"

Well folks it did not announce super script in this email I sent out as it
must have strip the formatting out.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 9:29 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List 2
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to stop Jaws from announcing "super script"

Hi Again,

Below is a sentence that Jaws announces super script on the April 24 date
below. This is what I am wanting to be able to stop Jaws from announcing in
my Bible reading.

So if you know how I can stop Jaws from announcing this please let me know.

If you want to know how Creators Update is going with screen readers, you
should mark April 24th on your calendars, as Jonathan Mosen (producer of
FSCast) will be talking about Creators Update at Accessible World's Tek Talk
presentation.

  


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

[Jim Pursley]

JAWS stops occasionally on me, too - using latest build of J17/Win7.  
For this reason, I keep J16 live so can have speech.  I had a sense that 
J18 was not quite up to par for Win7 machines so I've held off until I 
see an update which fixes the issue you mention.  I have little patience 
at work with technology not functioning, so I'm super careful not to get 
the latest thing.  Just my way of doing things.


On 3/31/2017 3:32 PM, Tom Behler wrote:

Thanks, Miriam.

At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit
windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the
problem and are working on it.

Miriam

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

  I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my
Windows 7 laptop.

It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word
document.

Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does
the Windows run command.

Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is
to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot.

Definitely not good.

Dr.  tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adam Ferguson
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi all.

Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing
unpredictably.  Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to
happen?  I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10.

Thanks,

Adam.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] numbers

[Jim Pursley]

Try this.

F2 to Settings Center.

Arrow to text processing.  right arrow and down to number and date 
processing.  Right arrow and down to number processing.  Right arrow and 
down to speak single digits.  Right arrow to open.  I set t speak single 
digits at numbers 7 digits or more and never want to hear the hyphen.


Doing this you should hear seventy thousand.
To finish back out and arrow down to OK and hit enter.

On 3/29/2017 10:16 PM, Rick Justice wrote:

Hi Kimsan,
Have you tried looking in the Jaws help topics?

HTH,
Rick Justice

- Original Message -
From: "Kimsan" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] numbers


Hi,

  How do I have jaws pronounce 70 thousand as 70 thousand and not 70 comma
zeero zeero zeero?

  Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

kimsans...@icloud.com

  


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel Column titles

[Jim Pursley]

Brilliant.  I had been using the JAWS quick settings to mark spreadsheet 
columns and rows.  The method you note is far faster.


On 3/16/2017 3:15 PM, Jean Menzies wrote:

Thanks, Justin. It worked.

Jean ,

-Original Message- From: Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel Column titles

Use insert plus alt plus control plus c/r for column or row.
Use, turn off protected mode to save them.
Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On Behalf Of Jean Menzies

Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 1:31 PM
To: JawsUsersList 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Excel Column titles

I know this comes up a lot, but now it’s my turn to ask. lol.

I have an Excel spreadsheet with 17 sheets. I want to define column 
title reading for each sheet. I got it working for the first sheet, 
but I can’t seem to get the others to work. I’m thinking I have to 
define each sheet separately. Is that correct? I’m not sure what to 
turn off and what to turn on to do this.


Also, the spreadsheet is currently in protected mode. Do I have to 
turn off protected mode to make and save these changes for Jaws to 
retain them?


Thanks for any help. I’m not a very good excel user. lol.

Jean
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Re: [JAWS-Users] account in box on Thunderbird

[Jim Pursley]

Tom, your Thunderbird should include as default an In box and draft, 
sent and trash boxes.  You can add other mailboxes by moving the cursor 
above the in box and hitting the applications key.  Arrow down to new 
folder and zap - you have a new folder/box.


On moving back and forth from the Tree View to mailboxes.  Even though 
I've had Thunderbird for about three years I still sometimes tab when I 
should use the arrow keys as I am navigating from mailbox to mailbox 
through the tree view.  Don't be afraid to tab your heart out until you 
find what you want.  Thunderbird is very stable and forgiving, I've found.




On 3/14/2017 5:58 PM, anna vimini wrote:

Hi Tom,

when you first open the program you should land in your in box all you 
Have to do is use the tab key and you jaws will say in box tab so you 
tab once more and you will hear tree view list so you tab a third time 
and you will hear jaws say list view then all you have to do is use 
your arrow keys to select a message.


or if you open the program and jaws says account just use your arrow 
key and down arrow to the in box tree view and then use your tab key 
to get in the in box


I hope this helops


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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to copy a PDF file?

[Jim Pursley]

Control A highlights the entire pdf.  Control C and Controlv copy and 
paste, respectively.


The above works for me when Adobe, as it does occasionally, skips upward 
several lines or several paragraphs.


On 3/7/2017 1:16 PM, Mr. Ed wrote:

Hi Jaws Group,

I have a PDF file that I have opened in Acobat Reader DC. I did the ctrl + A
to highlight the text but it only does this for the first page when I go and
paste it in word. Is there a way I can select the whole PDF file and paste
it in word for reading with Jaws?

Mr. Ed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] compacting folders in Thunderbird

[Jim Pursley]

Dunno...I always compact folders as prompted.  But I do keep my Sent 
file down to a minimum size (I empty the trash down to about 2 months 
worth).  I've found that,even with a computer with large RAM, 
Thunderbird crashes when my Sent file gets too long.


I'll be interested to see others' responses to your question.

On 3/3/2017 5:43 PM, anna vimini wrote:
when performing the task of compacting folders in Thunderbird should I 
be in Thunderbird safe mode?


Thanks in advance


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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to create a new sheet in Excel 2010

[Jim Pursley]

One more..Shift/Control s gives a list of sheets.

On 1/26/2017 3:09 AM, Nate Kile wrote:

Your very welcome Ed.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 7:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to create a new sheet in Excel 2010

Hi Nathaniel,
Thanks for the key strokes. I did not know about the one to go from sheet to
sheet. That is a good one to know.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 1:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to create a new sheet in Excel 2010

Shift F11 to create a new sheet and Control page up and down to navigate
between them.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 1:10 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List 2
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to create a new sheet in Excel 2010

Hi Group,

Does anyone know the Jaws command to create a new sheet in Excel 2010? I
have and Excel spread sheet with many sheets on it. I need to create a new
sheet.

Thanks in advance.

Mr. Ed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Audible or Book Share

[Jim Pursley]

Audible has professional actors reading their books.  Most Audible books 
are commercial audiobooks but somee are actually commissioned by 
audible.  JAWS, thankfully, does not read Audible books nor is their a 
need for it to read them.  NBookshare is another horse entirely.  The 
plus about bookshare is that it comes in text, with speech and it's 
cheap.  I've found its coverage not generally to my liking.  Audible is 
only speech, and should be considered more of a bookstore than the 
library that bookshare is.  Bookshare's original purpose, I think, was 
to provide educational materials while Audible's is to make money by 
providing a wide variety of reading materials.


I get by with Audible and NLS just fine;  they supply me with more books 
to my liking than I can possibly read. By the way, Audible's Platinum 
subscription provides 24 books a year for $229, less than 10 bucks per 
book.

On 1/20/2017 11:41 AM, Justin Williams wrote:

Does audible just have books with the strange speaking voice, or can you
read their books with jaws?
  Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Theodore Cooke
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 7:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Audible or Book Share

I've been using audible regularly for about 5 months now and find it's
great. There's some obscure titles it doesn't have, but that's not
surprising.

When displaying search results, They don't use headings, so I do a control f
for the word wish. Other than that, it's pretty straight forward.

On 1/18/17, Adrian Spratt  wrote:

Kindle is an Amazon product, and Audible is now an Amazon division.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Scorpio
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 7:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Audible or Book Share

Both are extremely accessible, however, Audible is an audiobook
service, and Bookshare is solely and E-book service.  By E-book, I
mean you can download in text format, E-Pub format and synthetic
speech.  I don't believe that Audible has E-book service, as I am a

member, and have never seen that.

They say you can get the Kindle edition of the audiobooks they sell,
but there is a separate cost for that.

Either way, good luck on what ever option you choose.

Scorpio

-Original Message-
From: Tammy
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 1:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Audible or Book Share

I use Book Share.  Yes, it Is accessible with Jaws.


-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of George Martinez
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 11:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Audible or Book Share

Hi All,
I am considering joining an eBook service.  Are Audible and Book Share
both accessible?  Any other comments about them would be appreciated.
Thanks,
George


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Re: [JAWS-Users] email hosting sites and jaws

[Jim Pursley]

We get our email as part of our site at FrontHost (www.frontline.net). 
Frontline has an excellent spam filter which provides me with a  daily 
log of entrapped stuff -so handy, even if it's a day late.  They offer 
secure email, too.  I am not sure if you can use their email server as a 
standalone.


On 1/19/2017 10:09 PM, Tom Clary wrote:

  is anyone out there familiar with an email hosting service that works
well with jaws

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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading PDF documents

[Jim Pursley]

Are you using Adobe DC or 11 or earlier?  DC doesn't want to read 
sometimes, though it's visible on the screen. Open Book works like a 
charm, even with secure documents.  The Kurzeweil 1000 is probably on 
par with Open Book.


I had a problem with  JAWS 17 reading Adobe DC when I downloaded it but 
it seems to be working fine for me now.  I've made all of the 
accessibility settings and checked not to read it in the browser - 
though Adobe DC is forcing me there.  So if I want to email a pdf I get 
on the web, I must save it to my hard drive first..then email.


On 1/17/2017 4:13 PM, Subash wrote:
I am sure others will have different results, as Vicki just said, but 
the Those PDF documents I have used it for, it worked.


-Original Message- From: Nate Kile
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 11:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading PDF documents

Will using the OCR convert it all to a readable?

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Subash
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 7:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading PDF documents

I usually open it using kurzweil 1000 and read it that way.

-Original Message-
From: Vicki
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 9:43 AM
To: JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading PDF documents

I am wondering what the best general settings are for reading PDF 
documents
in Adobe or is there a better program than Adobe for reading them. My 
issue

is consistency.

I am looking for settings in the PDF document, not in JAWS, although if
there are settings that will improve the readability of PDF documents by
changing JAWS settings, I would love to know those as well.
I was doing my bank statement this morning and reading it with JAWS 18 
and

some of it was not reading. When I switched to JAWS 14, the missing items
showed up. No matter which version I use, PDF documents never read in any
correct order, at least the ones I need to read.

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Creating Desktop Shortcut With Firefox

[Jim Pursley]

I'm getting closer to having Firefox as my default browser but thee 
bookmark organization is a bit baffling.  I don't think that bookmark 
access ias an insurmountable issue, though.  I like the idea of putting 
up to eight sites I use a lot as my home page (home tab).


I'm quite at home with Thunderbird so Firefox should not be too 
difficult to learn.


Thanks.

On 1/2/2017 1:17 PM, Flor Lynch wrote:
That's the handy thing about tabbed browsing. You can have up to 8 
sites in different tabs, stored as if on one site in one window. You 
cycle between each one with the ctrl+tab keys; alt+a # 1 through 8; or 
by using the other Quck Tab features.


-Original Message- From: Rick Justice
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Creating Desktop Shortcut With Firefox

Hi Jim,
If you have 1 or 2 websites that you have to access with Firefox, you 
could

try this:
1. Put a portable version of Firefox on your computer
2. Create a Desktop shortcut for the Firefox.exe file.
3. Launch Firefox, and then go to the website you want.
4. Set this website as the home page in Firefox.
5. If you have another website to access, I believe Firefox has the
capability for having multiple home pages.
Now, when you need to access those sites, launch Firefox from your 
Desktop

shortcut, and the web page you want should be right there.
Additionally, any other sites you need Firefox for could be added to the
Bookmarks, and should be easier to access from within that browser.
Doing this would eliminate the need to change your default browser, 
and keep

the sites relative to the browser needed to access them.

HTH,
Rick Justice

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Creating Desktop Shortcut With Firefox

[Jim Pursley]

Thanks, Rick
 What is a simple, menu driven, process in IE is a workaround in 
Firefox!  The number of sites on which Firefox works better has grown to 
three and may grow as I think the IE is a legacy product so far as 
Microsoft is concerned.  I think that for now I'll set the site I use 
most with Firefox as my home page so accessing it is a one click 
operation - just powering up Firefox.


On 1/2/2017 10:46 AM, Rick Justice wrote:

Hi Jim,
If you have 1 or 2 websites that you have to access with Firefox, you could
try this:
1. Put a portable version of Firefox on your computer
2. Create a Desktop shortcut for the Firefox.exe file.
3. Launch Firefox, and then go to the website you want.
4. Set this website as the home page in Firefox.
5. If you have another website to access, I believe Firefox has the
capability for having multiple home pages.
Now, when you need to access those sites, launch Firefox from your Desktop
shortcut, and the web page you want should be right there.
Additionally, any other sites you need Firefox for could be added to the
Bookmarks, and should be easier to access from within that browser.
Doing this would eliminate the need to change your default browser, and keep
the sites relative to the browser needed to access them.

HTH,
Rick Justice

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and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Create desktop shortcut with Firefox

[Jim Pursley]

Hey, Mike  Fluing over the cukoo's nest is no fun!  As Christopher Robin 
may have said, Get wellson.


Backson with a solution to the dt icon when I get around to making FF my 
default browser.  The hang up is the vastly different way FF handles 
bookmarkes over IE's favorites.


Happy All Year!

On 1/1/2017 2:10 AM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Again Jim,

Damn, what an idiot!  LOL  Excuse my last reply!  I misread your last post,
but anyways I've been fighting the flu, & have a hard time concentrating.
You as well as all list members & your loved ones, have the very happiest of
New Years!
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Jim Pursley
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Create desktop shortcut with Firefox


Thanks Mike.  I'll give it a shot.  It also occurred to me to create the
desktop icon with IE and switch the default browser to FF so that
clicking on it brings up the FF version, which for this one site is
preferable to IE.

Keep on truckin'

Jim

On 12/31/2016 10:29 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Jim,

The only way I was able to create a website desktop shortcut was doing the
following:
1. With the website of choice open press, Control + S, to open the save
dialogue.
2. Tab 1 time into a list of save options, & arrow up / down to the option
you want.
3. Tab to the save button & press enter, or press, Alt + S.
This will save a shortcut to the folder, or wherever your saved downloads
go
to by default.  Now copy it or cut it from the downloads location, & paste
it to your desktop.
I'm not going to swear that the steps above will work every time because
they sure as hell didn't for me!  LOL  But, other than saving as a
Bookmark
& copy / pasting this was the best I could do.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Jim Pursley
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 5:47 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Create desktop shortcut with Firefox


How do I create a desktop shortcut for a web site with Firefox v50?
Running Win7, JAWS 17 latest.  Help indicates only mouse maneuver.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Create desktop shortcut with Firefox

[Jim Pursley]

Thanks Mike.  I'll give it a shot.  It also occurred to me to create the 
desktop icon with IE and switch the default browser to FF so that 
clicking on it brings up the FF version, which for this one site is 
preferable to IE.


Keep on truckin'

Jim

On 12/31/2016 10:29 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Jim,

The only way I was able to create a website desktop shortcut was doing the
following:
1. With the website of choice open press, Control + S, to open the save
dialogue.
2. Tab 1 time into a list of save options, & arrow up / down to the option
you want.
3. Tab to the save button & press enter, or press, Alt + S.
This will save a shortcut to the folder, or wherever your saved downloads go
to by default.  Now copy it or cut it from the downloads location, & paste
it to your desktop.
I'm not going to swear that the steps above will work every time because
they sure as hell didn't for me!  LOL  But, other than saving as a Bookmark
& copy / pasting this was the best I could do.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Jim Pursley
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 5:47 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Create desktop shortcut with Firefox


How do I create a desktop shortcut for a web site with Firefox v50?
Running Win7, JAWS 17 latest.  Help indicates only mouse maneuver.



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[JAWS-Users] Create desktop shortcut with Firefox

[Jim Pursley]

How do I create a desktop shortcut for a web site with Firefox v50? 
Running Win7, JAWS 17 latest.  Help indicates only mouse maneuver.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] dumping vipre going to eset

[Jim Pursley]

don't you just love typos?

On 12/28/2016 3:44 PM, wayne smith wrote:

Thanks Jim-you don't look half that age.  What is your secret?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] dumping vipre going to eset

I use Citibank, Bank of America and American Express without apparent
problems.

I've been using NOD32 for about 123 years and have the latest version.


On 12/28/2016 3:23 PM, wayne smith wrote:

I was looking at virus protection options and Eset was on my list.
What effect does the banking encription have on the functionality of
JAWS?  Are you able to review accounts, make transferrs and pay bills and

so on?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 7:10 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] dumping vipre going to eset

Well the problem with new network found must be ongoing. I was trying
how to send vipre an email about the problem and came upon one of their

forums.

They could not reproduce it for one customer and escalated. It is
called the dreaded new network loop. The only solution on the forum was to

dump vipre.

I just look again at eset, I used that many years ago. Their new
software is screen reading software ready. Their internet security
also has banking protection. If you are on a banking sight everything is

encrypted.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] dumping vipre going to eset

[Jim Pursley]

Meditation and more or less clean living.  Oh..and Adopted teenage kids.

On 12/28/2016 3:44 PM, wayne smith wrote:

Thanks Jim-you don't look half that age.  What is your secret?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] dumping vipre going to eset

I use Citibank, Bank of America and American Express without apparent
problems.

I've been using NOD32 for about 123 years and have the latest version.


On 12/28/2016 3:23 PM, wayne smith wrote:

I was looking at virus protection options and Eset was on my list.
What effect does the banking encription have on the functionality of
JAWS?  Are you able to review accounts, make transferrs and pay bills and

so on?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 7:10 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] dumping vipre going to eset

Well the problem with new network found must be ongoing. I was trying
how to send vipre an email about the problem and came upon one of their

forums.

They could not reproduce it for one customer and escalated. It is
called the dreaded new network loop. The only solution on the forum was to

dump vipre.

I just look again at eset, I used that many years ago. Their new
software is screen reading software ready. Their internet security
also has banking protection. If you are on a banking sight everything is

encrypted.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] How To Alphabetically Organize InternetFavorites InInternet Explorer

[Jim Pursley]

I tested Favorites by "clicking" on Organize Favorites near the top of 
the Favorites list.  I selected New Folder and it appeared at the end of 
the list.  Then I hit the letter n a few times to get me to the new 
folder, hit the Applications key and selected sort by name. My new list 
nestled right in the  N's..I think that when you sort one folder, all in 
the main level sort.  To sort fubdirectories within a main directory 
just repeat the sort process.


I haven't had any alphabetizing issues in years.

On 12/28/2016 3:17 PM, Dave wrote:

Tom,

Still I recommend you go ahead and organize them by name, doing it twice, if
the order gets reversed. See if that activity results in the IE
presentation.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Tom Behler" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 08:59
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How To Alphabetically Organize InternetFavorites
InInternet Explorer


Dave:

Interestingly, when I go to my internet favorites in C users under my name,
the favorites are listed alphabetically, just the way I want them.

However, when I bring up internet Explorer 11, the favorites are not listed
alphabetically.  Instead, as I noted before, they are listed
chronologically, according to when I added them to my favorites list.

I'm puzzled as to how to get the favorites list under c users to be
reflected in IE 11 itself, when I bring it up.

Tom Behler

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 11:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How To Alphabetically Organize Internet Favorites
InInternet Explorer

Tom,

Here's what I do in Windows 7

I go to my favorites folder, located in C:\users\[MyUserName] and when the
folder list is being displayed:

View menu
O for organize
Arrow to name
press enter.

If it reverses them, then do a view/organize/name once again to flip.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Tom Behler" 
To: "'Jaws users list'" 
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 08:02
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How To Alphabetically Organize Internet Favorites
InInternet Explorer


Hello.



Can someone tell me how to get my Internet favorites arranged alphabetically
in Internet Explorer 11?



Currently, my favorites are not listed  alphabetically. Instead,  they
appear to be listed chronologically according to when I added the web sites
to my favorites list, with the most recently-added favorites appearing at
the bottom of the list.



Thanks as always!



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] dumping vipre going to eset

[Jim Pursley]

I use Citibank, Bank of America and American Express without apparent 
problems.


I've been using NOD32 for about 123 years and have the latest version.


On 12/28/2016 3:23 PM, wayne smith wrote:

I was looking at virus protection options and Eset was on my list.  What
effect does the banking encription have on the functionality of JAWS?  Are
you able to review accounts, make transferrs and pay bills and so on?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2016 7:10 PM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] dumping vipre going to eset

Well the problem with new network found must be ongoing. I was trying how to
send vipre an email about the problem and came upon one of their forums.
They could not reproduce it for one customer and escalated. It is called the
dreaded new network loop. The only solution on the forum was to dump vipre.
I just look again at eset, I used that many years ago. Their new software is
screen reading software ready. Their internet security also has banking
protection. If you are on a banking sight everything is encrypted.


---

Please visit my web page

It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor

There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

http://www.LennyMcHugh.com

International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to
frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel

[Jim Pursley]

to see all worksheets hit control/shift and s.

On 12/14/2016 11:35 AM, Gene Warner wrote:

Hi Adam!

If I recall correctly control + page up and control + page down will 
switch tabs.


I rarely use them as I configured Excel to only create one worksheet 
in new files. I figured that if I needed more, I could always create 
them.


Also, while you are in Excel, you can press the JAWS key + F1 to get 
Excel specific JAWS help, though come to think of it, the control + 
page up or down are Excel's own hot keys, not JAWS' so they may not be 
in the Excel JAWS help.


hth

Cheers!



On 12/14/2016 6:56 AM, Adam Ferguson wrote:

Hi all.

How can we switch between tabs on an Excel worksheet using JAWS?  This
is a problem which is really frustrating me and which I suspect there
is a very simple answer for.

Many thanks,

Adam.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Blind scripts

[Jim Pursley]

Dunno, I don't use them either.  A few things need workarounds but for 
the most part I find that Thunderbird is quite an acceptable successor to

Eudora.

On 12/9/2016 4:38 PM, Gene Warner wrote:

Hi everyone!

I asked this question on the Do It Blind forums, but after a month, 
got no replies, so...


Is anyone using the Thunderbird Blind scripts? I've been using 
Thunderbird for almost 18 months and can pretty much do anything I 
need to in it without any scripts helping me, unless some scripts came 
with JAWS. So what would using the Thunderbird Blind scripts get me?


Thanks!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

[Jim Pursley]

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing 
instead of arrowing?


The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit 
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my kids 
read me the captcha!


On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:
I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on I'm 
not a robot checked box not checked!


-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label twice,
one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with and
sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous input
field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the time tab
will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is OK
for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create a
problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which won't
work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored because they go
to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only the control is
selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:
I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just 
when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box 
saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so I 
can send my message?

I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Save as in Adobe reader DC

[Jim Pursley]

Try this.

Control, F opens the file menu.  A for save as.  You are probably here.  
You will here read only and then cancel.  Shift tag once to "Use a 
different folder"..Hit


Jim Pursleyenter and you will find your familiar save as layout.

On 11/30/2016 9:37 PM, The Iowa Gal wrote:

Hi group,

I'm using Jaws 18 and Adobe reader 15 and I need to save a document. It is a
read-only form, so I am trying to find my way around the "save as" dialogue
but I can't find where I can type my name for the document. I see the path
where the form is located, but it says read only so I'm not sure what I'm
missing. If anyone can shed some light for me I would appreciate it muchly.

Thanks,
Norma




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Re: [JAWS-Users] how do i insert rows and columns in excel

[Jim Pursley]

Alt I, E, C is correct for columns.

On 11/13/2016 5:23 PM, Jim Pursley wrote:
Alt I for insert and then R for row.  Be sure your cursor is placed on 
the row below where you want your new row to be.  In Excel 2010, Alt I 
still works with a note to continue typing the key sequence of a 
keystroke for Excel 2003.  Be undaunted..Alt I, then R should get you 
a new row.  The cursor can be  any place on the row below your new one.


To insert a column, type Alt I and then C.  Be sure your cursor is to 
the right of where you want your new column to be.


You can probably insert rows and columns using the ribbon menus, too, 
but I find the quick keystrokes easier, as I use them frequently.

On 11/13/2016 4:56 PM, andy wrote:
I have a table and I need to re order some stuff and put in stuff 
that was

left out

How do I insert rows and columns instead of copy and pasting a ton of 
stuff.



Thanks a bunch

andy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how do i insert rows and columns in excel

[Jim Pursley]

Alt I for insert and then R for row.  Be sure your cursor is placed on 
the row below where you want your new row to be.  In Excel 2010, Alt I 
still works with a note to continue typing the key sequence of a 
keystroke for Excel 2003.  Be undaunted..Alt I, then R should get you a 
new row.  The cursor can be  any place on the row below your new one.


To insert a column, type Alt I and then C.  Be sure your cursor is to 
the right of where you want your new column to be.


You can probably insert rows and columns using the ribbon menus, too, 
but I find the quick keystrokes easier, as I use them frequently.

On 11/13/2016 4:56 PM, andy wrote:

I have a table and I need to re order some stuff and put in stuff that was
left out

How do I insert rows and columns instead of copy and pasting a ton of stuff.


Thanks a bunch

andy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] checking for updates is stuck in windows 8.1

[Jim Pursley]

Needs to run about 24 hours.  Try that.  You and a lot of others are 
having this problem, not just you.  Punishment for not having Win10?  
You might call the Microsoft Accessibility desk at 800-936-5900.  The 
first time I called I got the problem resolved for 3 weeks then it 
started again.  I've called 3 other times and now nothing 
downloads..nothing even shows in the cache for important updates.


My tech says just hang in there and let the machine run 24 hours or so 
and it'll download and install.



On 11/9/2016 9:12 PM, Annette Carr wrote:

I cannot get my Windows7 machine to get past checking for updates, or
downloading a silver Lite update.  I've tried several times and let it try
all night with no success.

Annette


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Behalf Of anna vimini
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 5:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] checking for updates is stuck in windows 8.1

I went to check for updates in windows updates ande it seems to be stuck I
started checking for updates this morning and it is now five thirty seven
p.m.

does any one know how I can cancel this action?

I am using windows 8.1  and jaws 15


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Moving from JAWS 17 to 18

[Jim Pursley]

I find it helpful to maintain the two most recent JAWS versions on my 
system, the older one as a back up.  As such, I would keep J17 and 
install J18 "over" it.  If you maintain J17 at least until you install 
J18 your  J17 settings will be preserved if you so elect.


On 11/9/2016 11:15 AM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:

Regarding the installation of JAWS 18, do I need to uninstall JAWS 17 first, or 
can I just insert the disk and install it over the current version? Thanks.

Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] Unusual Recaptcha experience

[Jim Pursley]

Confirming a subscription, I had to verify being human by completing a 
"challenge".  Selecting an audio challenge I needed to match several 
choices with x boxes with a topic, such as fish stew and dance.


The audio challenge was in JAWS-readable text.

I checked appropriate boxes and passed - the third time around.  A young 
person with only a high school education may have had difficulty with 
passing as fish stew included Italian and French stews most people could 
not pronounce (cioppino).


Bottom line, though - the audio challenge was a refreshing change from 
garbled sounds

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[JAWS-Users] Row and column title speaking

[Jim Pursley]

Re: [JAWS-Users] How to make jaws announce rows and colum in MS Excel
The best way to make row and column titles read with JAWS is to mark 
them on the spreadsheet itself, but I admit I still use the 
Excel-specific quick formatting.


Place the PC cursor at the intersection of the row and column you want 
to have titled.  Then press ins +v.


Arrow down the open Excel choices until you come to Workbook, Worksheet 
and Region Settings.

Arrow down to Title Reading.
Arrow down to Define name column and row titles override.  Set for the 
current file by pressing the spacebar.
Arrow down to Title Reading Detection.  Space bar to both column and row 
titles.

Press Enter and you should be good to go
On 11/3/2016 12:51 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay wrote:
block quote cited from 
mid:CAMudc6wBBLqa0GFEaHDhc2uP=0rjm-vddsy_by0grh7+bnk...@mail.gmail.com

Hi members, I wanted to make jaws announce the title of the current
row and column in MS Excel. I am doing settings after going into
insurt+v, and setting it to row and columns, but it is not announcing
both, though it is announcing the latest one.
For instance, if I am on an active worksheet, I press insurt+v, set it
on row first and then on column second, then jaws is announcing only
the title of the column and not of the row. So please tell me how to
set it in such a way that it could announce both titles, row and colum
as wel.
I am using Jaws 17 and MS excel 2003.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to make jaws announce rows and colum in MS Excel

[Jim Pursley]

The best way to makerow and column titles read with JAWS is to mark them 
on the spreadshett itself, but I admit I still use the Excel-specific 
quick formatting.


Place the PC cursor at the intersection of the row and column you want 
to have titled.  Then press ins +v.


Arrow down the open Excel choices until you come to Workbook, Worksheet 
and Region Settings.

Arrow down to Title Reading.
Arrow down to Define name column and row titles override.  Set for the 
current file by pressing the spacebar.
Arrow down to Title Reading Detection.  Space bar to both column and row 
titles.

Press Enter and you should be good to go
On 11/3/2016 12:51 PM, Mohib Anwar Rafay wrote:

Hi members, I wanted to make jaws announce the title of the current
row and column in MS Excel. I am doing settings after going into
insurt+v, and setting it to row and columns, but it is not announcing
both, though it is announcing the latest one.
For instance, if I am on an active worksheet, I press insurt+v, set it
on row first and then on column second, then jaws is announcing only
the title of the column and not of the row. So please tell me how to
set it in such a way that it could announce both titles, row and colum
as wel.
I am using Jaws 17 and MS excel 2003.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Jim Pursley]

Maybe Optilec/Freedom Scientific should subsidize list expenses as 
surely traffic which would have gone to tech support flows througgh the 
list.  I had a dog of a time with ribbon menus and from time to time an 
issue comes up which I pose to the list. I'd feel lost without the 
sharing support I and other members receive from not only the list but 
the resources you've prepared.


On 10/12/2016 7:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote:

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same.

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study.

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] signing out of thunderbird

[Jim Pursley]

Was the blind leading the blind on that one.  HTH.

On 10/11/2016 1:04 PM, Tom wrote:

works like a charm. thanks so much

-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley Sent: Tuesday, October 
11, 2016 10:24 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: 
[JAWS-Users] signing out of thunderbird
Alt T takes you to the tools menu.  Arrow up to Account settings. Tap 
the letter s.  You should see your current and only email. Tab once to 
a button menu.  Tap the space bar and press enter on email account.  
Follow the wizard.


On 10/11/2016 12:13 PM, Tom wrote:
very nice, but right now, I have only 1 address, how do I put in 
another?
-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley Sent: Tuesday, October 
11, 2016 9:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: 
[JAWS-Users] signing out of thunderbird
Let's figure you're in the inbox of one of your email addresses, 
email A.   Shift tab to the tree view (I employ the JAWS ribbon 
option) through mailboxes to find your current  email address. JAWS 
will say your email address and announce open.  Arrow to the left, 
JAWS announcing email A closed.  Arrow down and you should find your 
second email address...assuming you've enabled it on Thunderbird.


Now reverse the process.  Open your second email by arrowing to the 
right and then arrowing down through the tree view.  I find the 
method I described faster than the easier way - (here it is)


From your email A in box press shift tab to the tree view.  Arrow down 
through your current email's boxes to your second email..then keep 
arrowing down until you find the box you want and tab to it.


?Seems bit tricky but if you do it enough you'll get proficient.

Warning. If you tab a bit too far you might get something like 
Welcome To Thunderbird.  In that case just keep tabbing until you 
hear your inbox and navigate from there.10/11/2016 10:23 AM, Tom wrote:

how do I do this jim?

-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] signing out of thunderbird

You need not sign out.  Just get into the mailbox tree view, one level
up from the in box and scroll to the other account.  then go along the
ribbon to your in box or wherever you want to go.in the new email 
address.


On 10/11/2016 9:52 AM, Tom wrote:
I use thunderbird for email, but have no idea how to sign out of 
the email account I have open on tb now, so that I can use another. 
can anyone help me? jaws 17

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Re: [JAWS-Users] signing out of thunderbird

[Jim Pursley]

Alt T takes you to the tools menu.  Arrow up to Account settings. Tap 
the letter s.  You should see your current and only email.  Tab once to 
a button menu.  Tap the space bar and press enter on email account.  
Follow the wizard.


On 10/11/2016 12:13 PM, Tom wrote:

very nice, but right now, I have only 1 address, how do I put in another?
-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley Sent: Tuesday, October 
11, 2016 9:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: 
[JAWS-Users] signing out of thunderbird
Let's figure you're in the inbox of one of your email addresses, email 
A.   Shift tab to the tree view (I employ the JAWS ribbon option) 
through mailboxes to find your current  email address. JAWS will say 
your email address and announce open.  Arrow to the left, JAWS 
announcing email A closed.  Arrow down and you should find your second 
email address...assuming you've enabled it on Thunderbird.


Now reverse the process.  Open your second email by arrowing to the 
right and then arrowing down through the tree view.  I find the method 
I described faster than the easier way - (here it is)


From your email A in box press shift tab to the tree view.  Arrow down 
through your current email's boxes to your second email..then keep 
arrowing down until you find the box you want and tab to it.


?Seems bit tricky but if you do it enough you'll get proficient.

Warning. If you tab a bit too far you might get something like Welcome 
To Thunderbird.  In that case just keep tabbing until you hear your 
inbox and navigate from there.10/11/2016 10:23 AM, Tom wrote:

how do I do this jim?

-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] signing out of thunderbird

You need not sign out.  Just get into the mailbox tree view, one level
up from the in box and scroll to the other account.  then go along the
ribbon to your in box or wherever you want to go.in the new email 
address.


On 10/11/2016 9:52 AM, Tom wrote:
I use thunderbird for email, but have no idea how to sign out of the 
email account I have open on tb now, so that I can use another. can 
anyone help me? jaws 17

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Re: [JAWS-Users] signing out of thunderbird

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Let's figure you're in the inbox of one of your email addresses, email 
A.   Shift tab to the tree view (I employ the JAWS ribbon option) 
through mailboxes to find your current  email address. JAWS will say 
your email address and announce open.  Arrow to the left, JAWS 
announcing email A closed.  Arrow down and you should find your second 
email address...assuming you've enabled it on Thunderbird.


Now reverse the process.  Open your second email by arrowing to the 
right and then arrowing down through the tree view.  I find the method I 
described faster than the easier way - (here it is)


From your email A in box press shift tab to the tree view.  Arrow down 
through your current email's boxes to your second email..then keep 
arrowing down until you find the box you want and tab to it.


?Seems bit tricky but if you do it enough you'll get proficient.

Warning. If you tab a bit too far you might get something like Welcome 
To Thunderbird.  In that case just keep tabbing until you hear your 
inbox and navigate from there.10/11/2016 10:23 AM, Tom wrote:

how do I do this jim?

-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 8:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] signing out of thunderbird

You need not sign out.  Just get into the mailbox tree view, one level
up from the in box and scroll to the other account.  then go along the
ribbon to your in box or wherever you want to go.in the new email 
address.


On 10/11/2016 9:52 AM, Tom wrote:
I use thunderbird for email, but have no idea how to sign out of the 
email account I have open on tb now, so that I can use another. can 
anyone help me? jaws 17

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need format cells command in Excell 2010

[Jim Pursley]

Shift plus control plus f works too.  You can format cells 
individually.  You can also use the applications key to format cells.  
Are you wanting to format an entire worksheet?  I have no answer for 
that one.


On 10/11/2016 11:10 AM, Justin Williams wrote:

Alt h o will get you to the format menu.  What are you trying to do.
Control number 1 will also get you to the format menu, but that format menu
is different.
  Justin

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need format cells command in Excell 2010

I'm suffering a brain freeze/senior moment  and cannot remember the command
to format cells in Excel 2010.

Thanks for any help.

  


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Re: [JAWS-Users] signing out of thunderbird

[Jim Pursley]

You need not sign out.  Just get into the mailbox tree view, one level 
up from the in box and scroll to the other account.  then go along the 
ribbon to your in box or wherever you want to go.in the new email address.


On 10/11/2016 9:52 AM, Tom wrote:

I use thunderbird for email, but have no idea how to sign out of the email 
account I have open on tb now, so that I can use another. can anyone help me? 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Going to the top of a particular column in Excel

[Jim Pursley]

Control and up arrow moves you up the column - to the top most of the 
time.  Just repeat the move if you don't get to the top the first time 
you use the key combination.


On 10/6/2016 1:36 AM, Kurt Miller wrote:

Hi list members,

I am wondering if there is a key command that will take you to the top of a
column that you are in. I know that I can use the go to command and type in
the cell of the top of the column, but I am just wondering if there is
another way to get there. The home key will take you to the beginning of the
row so I was wondering if there was something for the top.

If there is, I haven't ran across it yet and using the go to is not a
problem. I just thought I would ask. This is something that has crossed my
mind several times.

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Kurt

  


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Re: [JAWS-Users] thunderbird keystrokes

[Jim Pursley]

Try this link.  I pulled it from my bookmarks.  It should be live for you.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts

On 9/26/2016 7:21 PM, Tom wrote:

tried the link, this is part of what opened:

404: File Not Found
/support/*thunderbird*/keyboard/

We are sorry, the file you requested could not be found.

Please check the spelling and punctuation. Our servers are case 
sensitive, so also be sure that the address has the correct case. You 
can use the links on this page or the search Mozilla feature at the 
top to find the document you were looking for.


 




-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 5:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] thunderbird keystrokes

Try this link.

www-archive.mozilla.org/support/*thunderbird*/keyboard


On 9/26/2016 5:01 PM, Tom wrote:
does anyone on the list  know how to find the jaws keystrokes for 
thunderbird?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] thunderbird keystrokes

[Jim Pursley]

Try this link.

www-archive.mozilla.org/support/*thunderbird*/keyboard


On 9/26/2016 5:01 PM, Tom wrote:

does anyone on the list  know how to find the jaws keystrokes for thunderbird?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] an optional windows update Kb 3,184,143

[Jim Pursley]

I'd recommend only downloading "important" updates.  Skip the 
recommended updates.  iI checked the option in the Windows Update 
control panel to "Check for updates but let me install them".


Still all of this caution did not prevent the Get Windows 10 onslaught.

On 9/20/2016 5:48 PM, John Fitzgerald wrote:

Are there any other updates that I need to look out for?  I have updates
turned off and have not updated for quite awhile to keep from being infested
by the get windows 10 bug.  Now that the W 10 flap is over I'd like to
update but am not sure which one's to look out for.  I am running windows 7
and jaws 16.

Thanks,

John Fitzgerald
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] an optional windows update Kb 3,184,143

Hi Anna,

Here you go, it sounds like an update to install, info below:

optional windows update Kb 3,184,143

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3184143

About this update
This update removes the Get Windows 10 app and other software related to the
Windows 10 free upgrade offer that expired on July 29, 2016. For a complete
list of the software removed by this Windows Update, see the update
replacement information.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3184143#bookmark-kblist

This update replaces the following previously-released software:
KB 3035583
  -- Update installs Get Windows 10 app in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1 KB
3064683
  -- Windows 8.1 OOBE modifications to reserve Windows 10 KB 3072318
  -- Update for Windows 8.1 OOBE to upgrade to Windows 10 KB 3090045
  -- Windows Update for reserved devices in Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 SP1 KB
3123862
  -- Updated capabilities to upgrade Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 KB 3173040
  -- Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1 end of free upgrade offer notification KB
3146449
  -- Updated Internet Explorer 11 capabilities to upgrade Windows 8.1 and
Windows 7


Take care.
Mike
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 12:49 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] an optional windows update Kb 3,184,143


I just want to know if I am understanding things right about this
optional windows update

Kb 3,184,143

it removes all windows updates pertaining to the get windows 10 update?

I am using windows 8.1  and jaws 15

isn't that funny the way they come out with things after it is all over

Thanks in advance


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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to get to a different sheet in Excel 2010

[Jim Pursley]

You can also use Control + Shift S to view all of your pages.  Arrow to 
the one you want and press enter.


On 9/17/2016 5:18 PM, James Macdonald wrote:

Hi ed The shortcut to change sheets in a workbook in excel is control plus page 
up and control plus page down here is a threat that list shortcuts check it out
http://www.geocities.ws/jawsnotes/excel.htm
Cheers James


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On 18 Sep. 2016, at 05:57, Joeylamperis  wrote:

Control shift S

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On Sep 17, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:

Hi Everyone,

If I am on an Excel sheet and I want to go to a different sheet what is the
shortcut key to do this?

Another words go from sheet 1 to sheet 2?

Ed

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