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Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 13:03
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
I am wondering, where would I find a list of the shortcut keys to do basic
commands in word? I want to center top to bottom a text and wonder how to do
that.
but where
are they?
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Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 1:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
I might
PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Just so the fighting has stopped is my main concern.
It probably has gone on long enough, this is true. One problem might be that
everybody does not review all messages. Oh more is the pity
@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
I'm not slagging any person in this thread and certainly not Rose, who has
been really forthcoming and helpful to those in doubt/with questions, but
this thread is getting so incredibly long and repetitive
, 2017 2:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
If you use the setup wizard you will have a choice to turn it on or leave it
off. Also under quick setting, insert V, it will let you know its status,
pressing spacebar
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Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
How would one know if the ribbon or the virtual ribbon is in use?
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws
t 22, 2017 3:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Rose,
Agree completely. It's fine for folks to tell of their experience with a
particular feature, but to insist that a particular method is best for a
blind person seems to
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Rose,
Agree completely. It's fine for folks to tell of their experience with a
particular feature, but to insist that a particular method is best for a
blind person seems to be dogmatic.
Dave
Oregonian
Enough already, we get it discussion closed. Nobody is wrong but you are all
starting to get on my last nerve.
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Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Hi Dave, you are wrong, I never said a blind person must use the Jaws
virtual ribbons. They can use them or not use them, this is a personal
choice. However, in my opinion, I think th
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Rose,
Agree completely. It's fine for folks to tell of their experience with a
particular feature, but to insist that a particular method is best for a blind
person seems to be dogmatic.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer
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Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 08:36
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
I am not sighted either, however, not being able to avail myself of
frequently used shortcut keys I have known since Word 97 is
, 2017 1:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Yes, I guess that explains why you don't use the Jaws virtual ribbons. I can
see where you were trying to interact with the sited computer users where
you worked. That's fine
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Yes, I guess that explains why you don't use the Jaws virtual ribbons. I can
see where you were trying to interact with the sited computer users where you
worked. That's fine and understandable. But what I am
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 4:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Hi, Jim.
The reason I don't try the JAWS virtual ribbon is the one I gave you
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Moi? Well, then either that was the one and only time I've been wrong, or as
you say, things have changed. Take your pick.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
al Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf
Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 2:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
OK, just wondering, you say, I neither use no
...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 12:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Hi, LeDon. If you use any Office application, such as Word or Outlook, chances
are you already use the Microsoft
Yes, I agree, thanks.
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Of Vicki
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 2:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
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I've followed
. Just my
two cents worth! Smiles.
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 3:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual
, 2017 3:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
That makes sense to me. As far as I understand the functioning of the virtual
ribbons, too (someone correct me though if I am wrong), JAWS may not be keeping
up
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf
Of LeDon
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2017 11:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
OK, I must confess, I have not followed this thread
Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Hi, Laura.
Rose previously posted a message that was critical of the JAWS virtual
ribbon that I agree with. For one thing, it prevents you from
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David, so you are saying that life is a beach?
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
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From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To:
my neighbor, in her 90's, takes on the
challenge of just about anything.
Vicki
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Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learnin
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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 8:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Hi Laura,
I experimented with checking & unchecking the Virtual Ribbon option from the
Startup Wizard, & I
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Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
David, so you are saying that life is a beach?
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
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From: "David Fe
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
No, Jim is not wrong. LOL. I have just given my humble opinion on why we
should use the virtual ribbons with Jaws just like all other members have
given their opinions on why not to use the virtual ribbons. A
ading a software license agreement. In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: Laura Richardson
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
As you
-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 6:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Hello,
When it comes to navigating MS Word ribbons I'm pretty much a beginner.
I've memorized certain shortc
rom: Laura Richardson
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Would you or somebody please tell me how to turn off the virtual ribbon?
Laura
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From: JAWS-Users-List [m
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Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 6:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Hello,
When it comes to navigating MS Word ribbons I'm pretty much a beginner.
I've memorized certain shortcut keys
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Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 3:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Thanks David, I like that, it takes all of us and our opinion working together
to finish the beach. Thanks,
these.
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Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 2:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
For what it is worth I myself
.
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From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Guess where I got it from? One of your messages some years ago. But if you
posted it, it was right a
-list@jaws-users.com
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Opinions are like pebbles of sand, they are all different. No one is worth more
or less than any other as they all come together to form a beach.
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From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday
heart desires.
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Of Dave ...
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 2:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Moi? Well
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Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 07:32
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Control+F1 turns the virtual ribbon on and off. That's what my notes say.
I've never done it.
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-b
?
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From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 1:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Guess where I got it from? One of your messages some years ago. But if you
posted it, it was right at the time
aws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:02
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Guess where I got it from? One of your messages some years ago. But if you
posted it, it was right at the time, and probably what you say here explains
it. Rega
of. Just my two cents worth. Smiles.
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 1:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual
of the whole wide world.
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf
Of Dave ...
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 11:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Adrian,
I
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
>
> I would turn off the virtual ribbon. It is handy, but you become
> dependent on them and they don't work as well as the original menus,
> since they don't use first-letter navigation.
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
>
> I would turn off the virtual ribbon. It is handy, but you become
> dependent on them and they don't work as well as the original menus,
> since they don't use first-letter
: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Would you or somebody please tell me how to turn off the virtual ribbon?
Laura
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf
Of Dave ...
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:17 AM
.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
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From: "Laura Richardson" <laurak...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 06:58
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .
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Happy learning! God bless!
Sincerely: Jim Flusche.
Owner of the Windows 10 and Jaws and The River Yahoo groups.
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf
Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2
: Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
When someone helped me set up Office 365, I think the virtual ribbons were
turned off. However, I'm not sure that they're turned off now because I
haven't needed
s.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 09:05
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
When someone helped me set up Office 365, I think the virtual ribbons were
turned off. However, I'm not sure that they're turned off now because I
haven't needed to use the ribbon
Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Hi, Laura.
Rose previously posted a message
Sunday, August 20, 2017 07:32
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Control+F1 turns the virtual ribbon on and off. That's what my notes say.
I've never done it.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behal
.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
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From: "Laura Richardson" <laurak...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 06:58
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not .
dson
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Would you or somebody please tell me how to turn off the virtual ribbon?
Laura
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Would you or somebody please tell me how to turn off the virtual ribbon?
Laura
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf
Of Dave ...
Sent: Sunday, August 20
, Musician, and Pioneer
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From: "Laura Richardson" <laurak...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 07:28
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Would you or somebody please t
58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Hello,
When it comes to navigating MS Word ribbons I'm pretty much a beginner.
I've memorized certain shortcut keys to do very specific things but need to
learn how to navigate these ri
to use the ribbons.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
- Original Message -
From: "Laura Richardson" <laurak...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 06:58
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Learnin
, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
- Original Message -
From: "Laura Richardson" <laurak...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 06:58
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..
Hello,
When it
Hello,
When it comes to navigating MS Word ribbons I'm pretty much a beginner.
I've memorized certain shortcut keys to do very specific things but need to
learn how to navigate these ribbons.
Right now virtual ribbons are turned on .. Would it be easier and more
efficient to learn the
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