:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
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mmmmmm, i am not talking about porting xor integration. i
am talking about php beeing a _frontend_ in the depest
meaning. unfortunately
In the early days of Java, I read that a large retailer had about 70 Java
programmers because it was a business decision. It was the only tool
available that they could use to integrate their systems.
Most likely, Marc's decision to use PHP on the website is a business decision
as well. The
Title: RE: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] PHP
+1. Very Nice.
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, marc fleury wrote
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, marc fleury wrote:
[snip]
Hmm. There broken links on the site. Some stale .jsp(team.jsp(from the front
page) is a 404).
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2003
Hi all,
I just noticed that many of the pages on the website end in .php. Has it always
been this way, or is it new? I'd be very interested in hearing the rationale for
using PHP over a servlet-based or other solution. I'm not all-to familiar with PHP,
but I'm seeing it a lot lately...
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Munz
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:38 PM
To: JBoss Developers Group (E-mail)
Subject: [JBoss-dev] PHP
Hi all,
I just noticed that many of the pages on the website end in
.php. Has it always
, January 09, 2003 1:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP
new website. Its PHP and PostNuke. Its OK. JSP/Servlets/J2EE is better,
but PostNuke is a good Content Management System. Julien Viet is looking
into porting it to the Java world. We're gonna call it JNuke
Bill,
Don't worry, I'm not going to blast you for not eating your
own dog food.
you should.
JSP/Servlets/J2EE is better, but PostNuke is a good Content
Management
System.
This statement, in and of itself, is a rationale for using
J2EE instead of PHP ;) Could you divulge
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Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP
Bill,
Don't worry, I'm not going to blast you for not eating your
own dog food.
JSP/Servlets/J2EE is better, but PostNuke is a good Content
Management
System.
This statement, in and of itself, is a rationale for using
J2EE instead of PHP
OK so we are really in a bind here. The script kiddy code may be
functional, this lack of caching is really killing us. The site is
pegged at 100 with dips at 50% on occasion but all in all the profile
looks pretty bad. The Java code was 3 times faster. I feel good on one
hand because this is
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Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP
Funny, I was just doing research for a CMS that offers webdav
access, versioning
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MM From: Bill Burke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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MM Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP
MM new website. Its PHP and PostNuke. Its OK. JSP/Servlets/J2EE is better,
MM but PostNuke is a good Content Management
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From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:56 PM
To: Jboss-Development@Lists. Sourceforge. Net
Subject: [JBoss-dev] PHP problems
OK so we are really in a bind here. The script kiddy code may be
functional, this lack of caching
IWE. Go Go Julien Viet!
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt
Munz
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:16 PM
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Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP
Marc group,
Thanks for the details.
We tried to rewrite
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Subject: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] PHP
What's good in PN is that the underlying model is proven to work.
Also reusing all HTML, CSS and icons is very good.
I am a java coder not a web designer. While developping forums app,
the lack of HTML
I agree Julien. HTML/CSS sucks. Takes about 80% of my time
when I do it. In fact, the port to PostNuke would have taken
me 1 or 2 days less.
given that it took you 4 days that would be a feat indeed :)
marcf
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From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: [JBoss-dev] PHP problems
OK so we are really in a bind here. The script kiddy code
may be functional, this lack of caching is really
are going to have a blast doing that port.
marcf
Not the best situation...
- Matt
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From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:39 PM
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Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP
Bill,
Don't worry, I'm
Matt Munz wrote:
Marc,
If you're writing tissue-paper code (write once, never modify, throw
away when broken), script kiddie languages are great.
If not, be prepared to eat it in the long run on man
hours / maintennance.
And remember that eating used tissue-paper is never a good thing.
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From: Bill Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP
new website. Its PHP and PostNuke. Its OK. JSP/Servlets/J2EE
is better,
but PostNuke is a good Content Management System. Julien
What's good in PN is that the underlying model is proven to
work. Also reusing all HTML, CSS and icons is very good.
yes all the functionality is KICK ASS. Just take it and solidify it
with a refactor port to JBoss as you are moving forward with it.
I am a java coder not a web designer.
-Dev
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Subject: FW: PostNuke / JNuke (Fw: [JBoss-dev] PHP)
Screw em. We have the development community and development
process. They don't.
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From: Andreas Kuckartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:54 PM
what's a pronoun? :)
- Matt
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From: danch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Matt Munz wrote:
Marc,
If you're writing tissue-paper code (write once, never modify, throw
Matt Munz wrote:
Marc,
If you're writing tissue-paper code (write once, never
modify, throw
away when broken), script kiddie languages are great.
If not, be prepared to eat it in the long run on man
hours / maintennance.
And remember that eating used tissue-paper is never a
with the Servlet server, the latter by the Java
extension.
at: http://php.benscom.com/manual/kr/ref.java.php
bax
Von: Holger Baxmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I thought about
: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] PHP
anybody thought about integrating php (and this way the
cms-whatever-this-is
thingy) into the the containers? maybe by calling the zend
engine natively?
layer rules ...
just an idea ..
bax
Von
://php.benscom.com/manual/kr/ref.java.php
HB bax
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I thought about it, but that wouldn't solve the case. Direct DB
would still
.
let's do both
bax
Von: julien viet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Datum: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:14:23 +0100
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we already tried to investigate that way a couple of month ago.
but servlet and PHP
what is the zend engine?
marcf
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To: Holger Baxmann
Subject: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] PHP
I thought about it, but that wouldn't solve the case
by ten.
marcf
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mmmmmm, i am not talking about porting xor integration. i
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Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 6:27 PM
To: Holger Baxmann
Subject: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] PHP
I thought about it, but that wouldn't solve the case. Direct
DB would still be used and slowness would still be there, PHP
db functions
the php 'vm'
bax
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what is the zend engine?
marcf
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:27 PM
To: Holger Baxmann
Subject: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] PHP
I thought about it, but that wouldn't solve the case. Direct
DB would still be used and slowness would still be there, PHP
db functions would be mapped to JDBC.
The problem is not PHP, it's the way PHP guys code.
Anyway
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fleury
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:35 PM
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Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] PHP
holger,
we totally agree and we are talking about the same thing. I already
proposed it to Julien back when we wanted to go PN. The idea
: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] PHP
holger,
we totally agree and we are talking about the same thing. I already
proposed it to Julien back when we wanted to go PN. The idea is indeed
to RUN PHP APPS AS IS in JBoss but with the merit of same VM cache
access. That is what it is all about and what
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I've been looking into this as you speak. Seems from reading
doco that you
can't go Java-PHP-Java which is what we need. Not sure what
would happen
if PHP called from Java created a JVM. Too bad there isn't a PHP Jython
like thing
seems not a problem for me.
let's do both
bax
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Datum: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:14:23 +0100
An: Holger Baxmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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we already tried to investigate that way a couple of month
What about just writing a shell script to walk the tree of jboss.org via
the PHP every x min or hours, spit out static HTML, and only offer paths
to the PHP-based pages for POSTing of new forum stuff? Would that be a
bit faster and reduce your server load at the PHP end for read-only
stuff, before
On Thu, 9 Jan 2003, marc fleury wrote:
Nukes on JBoss is going to be SUCH A GREAT PROJECT. Finally ENTERPRISE
CMS for the MASSES.
Well, we have been playing with OFBiz(www.ofbiz.org) lately. It uses it's own
entity engine(which I know you guys don't like), but their GenericValue
objects are
fleury
Subject: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] PHP
To my mind creating an PHP compiler/interpreter/whatever on a java VM
is feasible but would require lot of resources.
I did a pascal compiler in my early courses, but the context was
very different. With pascal you have things that are well defined
, but Post-Nuke vs. a J2EE-based CMS that
apparently DNE.
Not the best situation...
- Matt
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From: marc fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:39 PM
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Bill,
Don't worry, I'm not going
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IWE. Go Go Julien Viet!
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Marc
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IWE. Go Go Julien Viet!
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Marc group
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] PHP
anybody thought about integrating php (and this way the
cms-whatever-this-is
thingy) into the the containers? maybe by calling the zend engine
natively?
layer rules ...
just an idea ..
bax
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Holger Baxmann
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anybody thought about integrating php (and this way the
cms-whatever-this-is
thingy) into the the containers? maybe
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