William started it! Gmail made it worse by threading it in.
I'd say go ahead and turn off this list (with an autoresponder rejection
email pointing to the new one if you can), people are gonna keep posting to
it by accident...
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Warner Onstine warn...@gmail.com
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Warner Onstinewarn...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm pulling the plug on the site (and this list) in a little over a
week, please sign up over at
http://groups.google.com/group/tucson-jug. Please join (if you want to
keep up with all the goings on and meetings here in
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Andrew Lenardsandrew.lena...@gmail.com wrote:
In other news I want to move the JUG site from Confluence. We have two
options:
1) I can create a quick and dirty WordPress site for it on my new box
2) We can just bite the bullet and move it to a Google Group and
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Andrew Lenards
andrew.lena...@gmail.com wrote:
Is anyone using Hudson (it's an extensible continuous integration engine)?
Has anyone played with it?
I've heard people like it, but I personally prefer something more
lightweight and easily hackable, and in my
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Todd Ellermann todde...@yahoo.com wrote:
After spending a week fighting with cruisecontrol I switched to hudson and
haven't looked back.
Just to be clear, you mean CruiseControl JAVA, not CruiseControl.rb
(in ruby), correct?
If so, I agree with you, CC java
This is really funny:
http://james-iry.blogspot.com/2009/05/brief-incomplete-and-mostly-wrong.html
-- Chad
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http://www.dbunit.org/
DbUnit is a JUnit extension (also usable with Ant) targeted at
database-driven projects that, among other things, puts your database
into a known state between test runs. This is an excellent way to
avoid the myriad of problems that can occur when one test case
corrupts the
Yes. You know what happens if you don't keep your Chias DRY:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chia_pet.jpg
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 6:11 PM, Kit Plummer kitplum...@gmail.com wrote:
Apply DRY principles first.
On Jan 28, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Christopher Sharp wrote:
Out of the blue and
I'm in SF this week, but if you have any materials I'd love to see
them posted. This sounds like a great presentation.
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:45 AM, TR tr...@pobox.com wrote:
All
See you tonight!
TR
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On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Richard Hightower
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ha. I am no troll. This is a Java list after all. I am quite un-trollish in
saying that Java is not dead on a Java list and using evidence to support my
assertion of the un-deadness of Java.
Even though the list and
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Richard Hightower
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
JRuby is cool. If I were going to use Ruby, it would most likely be Jruby.
You've [still] conveniently ignored my point about JRuby being able to
take advantage of both the Java and Ruby ecosystems [as opposed to
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 8:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So what time do we meet at Feast on Tuesday?
Unfortunately, I'll miss this. I'll be in San Francisco, writing Ruby ;)
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To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
For
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Kit Plummer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It has been my overwhelming experience that software
engineers are very bad (for whatever reasons) at recognizing the hammer they
are holding isn't the right one.
I'd rather have a Golden Hammer than a Golden Salami...
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Richard Hightower
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just not such a big fan of the Java is dead stuff.
Yes, but that part was essential to my goal of getting an interesting
thread going on this mailing list ;)
Here's the latest performance numbers on JRuby:
http://antoniocangiano.com/2008/12/09/the-great-ruby-shootout-december-2008/
Summary - JRuby is doing very well; came in second after Ruby 1.9; and
compatibility is good and getting better all the time.
Ok, troll time:
My opinion - definitely try
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If I was from-scratching a website, I'd definitely look at JRuby on JRails.
With JPeanut sauce on my JTofu.
Nick
On Dec 9, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Chad Woolley wrote:
Here's the latest performance numbers on JRuby:
http://antoniocangiano.com/2008/12/09/the-great-ruby-shootout
There was a talk by Jamis Buck (a big java DI guy) at RubyConf where
he claimed DI was unnecessary in Ruby or other dynamic languages.
That's me heckling him at the end. Essence of my comments: I agree
that DI *frameworks* are unnecessary, but I still think the Registry
pattern is a good way to
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 8:29 PM, Richard Hightower
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For now I will stick to Java and Groovy with glee in my heart that I can get
paid for something that I love to do.
Damn, didn't mean for the trollfest to turn ugly. But it's fun to watch.
Anyway, Rick, a few points:
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Christopher Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
I opened what I thought was a message from this group, and found instead
spam on Viagra and other similar products. It was in the form of an image.
I didn't get it. Do you use Gmail? If not, consider it...
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:32 PM, William H. Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've often thought it would be interesting to start meetings with a quick
circle around the room to give people a chance to seek real-time advice on
issues they currently face and/or pass along useful things they've
can we remove this address from the list, then?
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Mark at Weymouth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To whom it may concern,
Mark is no longer with Weymouth Design. Please contact Tom Kraft at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you need assistance.
Thank you.
Great, thanks William. If it were a Google Group, I'd volunteer to co-own,
but anything else is above my threshold of time/effort investment. Don't
want to know any more passwords ;)
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:42 PM, William H. Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A while back Warner mentioned
Hey, I have a java question :)
I have an Ant target (the Jsunit start_server target, actually) which
starts a java process using the java fork=true ... Ant target.
How can I grab the PID for this process, or of the parent Ant process?
Is the PID hidden by the JVM sandbox security, and my only
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Chad Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How can I grab the PID for this process, or of the parent Ant process?
Is the PID hidden by the JVM sandbox security, and my only option is
to grep the output of ps from the process invoking Ant?
Hmm, here is a hack which
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Tim Worden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You said that in IRC you put the code in a paste bin and then send a link,
how do I do this or where can I find out more about this.
http://gist.github.com/
This is cooler than all the other pastie solutions because you can
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 12:01 AM, William H. Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I count Tom as a good friend and valued colleague but I've got to
respectfully disagree with him on this point. I don't see a charter on the
JUG website but for History, I see this: The Tucson Java Users Group was
On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 3:06 AM, William H. Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I'd be happy to see a good demo of TextMate, too! :)
Hehe. Actually, I think textmate sucks pretty hard in its own ways -
such as no directory-tree-specific search (a horribly glaring
omission). I'll often have
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:23 AM, William H. Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just like last year, a lunch-time show of hands at NFJS for Who uses
Eclipse? seemed to raise just about every hand in the room. And, just like
last year, a follow-up from Neal Ford -- Who'd still use Eclipse if they
Here is the GitHub guide on how to delete a remote branch:
http://github.com/guides/remove-a-remote-branch
That guide, and the man page for git push, give me absolutely no clue
on why or how this syntax works.
Can someone explain or give me a link?
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 1:08 AM, William H. Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I took a look at that link but the documentation seems incomplete -- I
didn't see anything about specifying the number of stop bits.
What was it Brian said about Java being the new Assembly?
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Bashar Abdul
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I got your questions right:
Suppose you have this class:
class Article{
String author
boolean published
}
To get all the articles published by Bob:
def articles =
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Bashar Abdul
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
class Person {
String name
def hasMany = [articles:Article]
}
You can use Hibernate's Criteria Builder:
def c = Person.createCriteria()
def results = c.list{
articles{
like('content','Paris
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Thomas Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.artima.com/lejava/articles/javaone_2008_dmitry_jemerov.html
I have to admit, Idea is a very nice IDE, especially for Java. I
think it blows away Eclipse/NetBeans in most areas, except price (it
isn't free). At
These kids and their new-fangled protocols. XML was good enough for
my grandfather, and it's good enough for me! Why, we had to make our
angle brackets out of two sticks and baling wire...
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Very cool Nick, thanks for
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just wanted to send out a quick note to everyone (and Brian) thanking him
for the presentation last night.
Yes, I enjoyed it. Regardless of which flavor we prefer, I think that
having all this momentum behind dynamic
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Andrew Lenards
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you're forced to stay with an SVN repository - I know there is a git-svn
bridge that is bi-directional. So you can pull in an svn repo, branch,
work, and merge within git - then export the result back to svn. I've got
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, William H. Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Executive summary of his presentation: If you're not using git, you're an
idiot, even if Google hired you. Any questions?)
hehe, yeah that is a funny preso. However, Linus did put a lot of
thought and effort into
Which one did you finally pick, Scott?
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Tom, The presentation is now available for download from the JUG Web site
(front page).
-warner
On Jun 13, 2008, at 6:32 AM, Tom Michaud wrote:
Hi Scott,
I don't remember
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Thomas Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really? It's pretty similar in Groovy:
groovy [].class.methods*.name.toList()
=== [get, add, add, indexOf, clone, clear, lastIndexOf, contains, addAll,
OK, that seems to work. Can't say that would have been my first guess
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Thomas Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To partially answer your original question: I use Groovy because it is
built on top of a mature and immense language platform, so I don't
have to reinvent the wheel every time I sit down to code.
How does JRuby not meet
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Thomas Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One thing that has turned me off from Ruby in the past is the fanatical
and proselytizing behavior of the community members. Instead of
just setting up strawmen and snidely knocking them down, why don't you
put down the
On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 4:14 PM, William H. Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As I've mentioned before, I liked Groovy from a distance but I found it to
be frustrating to use. My experience with Ruby was the opposite -- blah at
first, but I quickly came to love it.
Thanks William. I was
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In preparation for the upcoming No Fluff Just Stuff Jay Zimmerman has
graciously offered us a speaker, Brian Sam-Bodden. He has volunteered to
speak on either Groovy Metaprogramming talk or JRuby DSLs for Java APIs.
I
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Andrew Lenards
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
P.S. - I didn't know if I should pass this along to the jug-announce list or
what, so if this is seen as unwanted mail I'll offer my apologies here.
Personally, I am fine with announcing new (but not necessarily
ongoing)
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 12:56 PM, William H. Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the problem with adding static typing rules is one of diminishing
returns. Abstractly speaking, imagine that a body of rules that can be
described in one page of text eliminates 50% of common errors. Ten
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This coming Tuesday Tom Hicks and Randy Kahle will be presenting on the new
JVM language Scala.
Sorry, will be at work in San Francisco. Codin' Ruby ;)
I really think it is a great goal to learn new languages frequently,
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 11:36 AM, William H. Mitchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm game for this but how about a quick show of hands -- who's
planning on coming?
Sorry, couldn't make it this week (and obviously behind on email too).
I'll try for next month, if I'm in town.
Did anybody show,
On Feb 13, 2008 10:29 AM, Thomas Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also would love to hear stuff on Python/Ruby as well, they are
welcome to join us, present, whatever.
I'd like to hear a little of this but, for several reasons, I would
be much more interested in hearing about things which
Good to see you all there. Thanks for the preso Warner, I enjoyed
having a discussion with everyone about the flash world and related
topics.
And greetings to our first time guest - if you are on the list.
Sorry, I'm terrible with names.
Hey - what do you all think about trying Pecha Kucha [1]
http://www.javaworld.com/podcasts/jtech/2007/112007jtech006.html
This great podcast covers a lot of topics:
* Why Ruby is more fun
* Why Ruby is going to keep gaining ground in the enterprise (because of jRuby)
* The differences between jRuby and Groovy
* Why Groovy, cool though it is, will
Man I haven't seen this many big responses on the list in a long time :)
My .02 - many of the smartest developers I've worked with in recent
years have had non-tech degrees like English, Sociology, etc.
On a related note: IMHO, quality companies who get it with regards
to quality programmers
Don't blame him. He didn't send it from his iPhone...
On 8/24/07, Aaron Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you like to use question mark statements.?
:P
- Aaron.?
--- Steve Shucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I agree with Jon and Rob that a degree is
Does everyone else get this when responding to messages? If so, can
whoever is responsible kill this subscription?
On 8/24/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
has not been delivered to the recipient's BlackBerry Handheld.
The returned error status is DB_USER_SUSPENDED_MODE
I'm unable to attend because I'm at Agile 2007 [1], but I'll be there
in spirit...
-- Chad
[1] - http://agile2007.com/agile2007/index.php?page=sub/id=610
On 8/13/07, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This tuesday James Smith will be presenting part 1 of the Adobe Flex/
OpenLaszlo
On 8/13/07, Rick Hightower [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I feel
the productivety gain while using dynamic langauges is not as good as the
productivty gain by using a good Java IDE. I'd rather have a good IDE then
less lines of code. I realize that this may put me in the minority on this
list
More OT-ness, sorry Rick...
I also find many (but far from all) things in Ruby/Rails follow the
Principle of Least Surprise. As for Scaffolding, I actually don't use
it a lot. Since we do Test-Driven Development, I often just start
from scratch. Unless you are doing straight-up CRUD or REST
On 6/20/07, eric biesterfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm putting in a second for Erlang.
I looked at it a bit back, but I'm still waiting for a time to take it
further. (I really want a proof of concept on something at work, but I
think I'll wait for a few more months to present it...)
Just
On 6/19/07, Art Gramlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Erlang - You should at least work through the tutorial for it (and if
you haven't seen it watch the video where they do live updates to the
system).
I think you mean this:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5830318882717959520
It's
Since processors will be multiplying instead of speeding up in the
future, I think erlang or something similar has got a lot of
potential. Having the language handle multithreading for you is huge,
given how hard it is in other languages.
On 6/19/07, Thomas Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At
If your goal is to get a marketable skill, I'd say Ruby/Rails. Lots
of Rails jobs out there, and more every day - especially if you want
to move to the Bay Area :)
On 6/17/07, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
I've posted up a little thing on my blog about what should be my next
of thing that a browser-based platform solves.
Javascript under Firefox works pretty much the same on all platforms.
-- Chad
On 6/3/07, Dennis Sosnoski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chad Woolley wrote:
I can't wait until they get Google docs offline. I don't care about
features, all I want
On 5/31/07, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This I think is pretty slick, offline Web apps through a browser
plugin (firefox, IE, windows, mac, and linux).
I think it's slick too.
http://gears.google.com
They provide an API that lets you run your Web application in offline
mode.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 23, 2007, at 6:58 PM, Chad Woolley wrote:
How OO is it? In Ruby, for better or for worse, everything is an
object. Even classes themselves are objects. This makes it possible
(if not prudent) to do pretty much anything.
How does it support cross-cutting
How OO is it? In Ruby, for better or for worse, everything is an
object. Even classes themselves are objects. This makes it possible
(if not prudent) to do pretty much anything.
How does it support cross-cutting concerns? Lately, I have been
missing the ability to do Aspect-oriented
Sorry if this breaks the no-job-offer taboo, but it's not like I'm a
headhunter, I just want to stop doing so much sysadmin at work :)
Does anyone know a GREAT senior unix sysadmin type? By GREAT, I mean
mature, organized, experienced, responsible, hardworking,
detail-oriented, and
Thanks!
On 3/19/07, Andrew William Petro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quite belatedly, I have the CAS presentation materials posted in the wiki.
Andrew
Chad,
I hope it was good. I'll have materials and links into the wiki this week
but probably not today.
Andrew
I couldn't make this one, unfortunately.
Was it good? Any materials to put on the wiki?
On 2/10/07, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Join us this coming Tuesday for Andrew Petro and Duffy Gillman who
will be presenting on SSO. Specifically CAS (for SSO management) and
Shibboleth
Thanks for getting the homepage updated and moved, Warner...
On 2/10/07, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Join us this coming Tuesday for Andrew Petro and Duffy Gillman who
will be presenting on SSO. Specifically CAS (for SSO management) and
Shibboleth (Federated SSO with authorization,
I'll pitch in for the domain fees, but I won't be in town for the next
two meetings. Paypal or tell me where to send a check.
On 12/19/06, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
Some updates first, this holiday break I will be migrating the
confluence page to be our home page and
I'll be in San Francisco for the next two meetings, but hopefully
after that I can attend (or present).
-- Chad
On 12/13/06, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If enough of you weren't bored to tears hearing me yack about DSLs
last night I'd be glad to put together a real preso on them
Sounds interesting.
On 12/13/06, Andrew Petro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I give a decent talk on the Central Authentication Service.
http://www.ja-sig.org/products/cas/
I figure I should eventually do something to earn my holiday dinner, which
was wonderful, thanks TR.
I'm not sure I can make
The second Tuesday of the month is the regular meeting date, IIRC.
On 12/11/06, Andrew Petro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also have not been to a meeting as of yet. In fact, I'm such a newbie
that I don't even know what date this holiday gathering is happening. Might
I join you all as well, and
I should be able to make it.
-- Chad
On 12/5/06, TR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tucson Jugger
Next week would be the regular meeting but it is close to christmas and
there is nothing scheduled. Warner, Rene and I are inviting all to
join us for dinner. We'll be at Feast on Speedway around 6pm
congrats!
On 12/4/06, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If for nothing else, this will kill all those jokes - So, when is
the book gonna be done?. Yes, that's right, it's out. Here's my blog
entry on it - http://jroller.com/page/warneronstine . You can buy it
here -
things
like meta-objects in a much better way.
It just seems that Groovy is closer than Java making it an easier
sell and less training.
On Nov 10, 2006, at 10:09 AM, Chad Woolley wrote:
I'm not sure that Groovy is a better java integration choice.
Assuming that both can be made to work equally
the major bugs and get a 1.0 out.
On Nov 9, 2006, at 8:38 PM, Warner Onstine wrote:
On Nov 9, 2006, at 8:29 PM, Chad Woolley wrote:
Why groovy vs. Jruby, other than the fact that Sun is endorsing
Groovy? We all know that Sun only endorses usable and technically
viable solutions (like J2EE
Why groovy vs. Jruby, other than the fact that Sun is endorsing
Groovy? We all know that Sun only endorses usable and technically
viable solutions (like J2EE).
OpenLazlo looks pretty cool, especially if it compiles to DHTML.
Haven't used it myself.
-- Chad
On 11/9/06, Warner Onstine [EMAIL
Sorry I can't make this. I have to have at least one free evening
this week. I'll be there in spirit, though!
-- Chad
On 10/5/06, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Next week Tom will be presenting on ESBs using FUSE and Apache
ServiceMix.
Time: 6:30 meet and greet
Where: CCIT
On 9/21/06, josh zeidner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
JUGs will
likely degrade in relevance( a process already in
effect )
Huh-Huh. Huh-Huh. He said jugs.
Dunno about you, but jugs are still very high in relevance to me.
Sorry, just doing my part to keep the quality of discussions on this
Actually, in one of the in-person meetings recently, I believe we
officially decided to allow a wider-than-just-java focus for the
group. We even took minutes, and I think there's a screenshot or
notes somewhere on the confluence wiki. I'm don't have time to find
it now, but it doesn't matter.
On 9/20/06, Nick Lesiecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, and anyone who's in the area for Hackday's welcome to come and
visit the 'plex. Dunno what Yahoo has planned for HackDay, but I
guarantee our cafe food is better on the average Tuesday than it is
at Yahoo's special event.
He's right. The
Finally watched this (it's what Warner was talking about last night).
It's really fascinating and really funny.
I don't think it has much to do with Web2.0 in the, er, traditional,
sense, but it's still fascinating.
-- Chad
On 9/2/06, Steven Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to
calls by many
in the industry for a better or smarter Ruby
development experience. I'm also making it a personal
priority to continue growing the JRuby community,
foster greater cooperation between the Java and Ruby
worlds, and work toward a whole-platform Ruby-on-JVM
strategy for Sun.
-jmz
--- Chad
http://www.seanastin.com/images/9998m.jpg
On 9/12/06, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Forgot to send this out last night - sorry all. Yes, we are having a
meeting tonight, Scott Segal from VMS will be presenting on their
transition from Waterfall to XP and back again and what the
This is an interesting contrast to Ruby on Rails. In Rails, you get
ActiveRecord. No choices required :)
There's probably some other framework ORM-ish Gems out there, but
nobody that I know ever uses them.
The thing is, it works fine for most Rails-sized apps. The only real
point that can
it didn't work out.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
ezmlm-store: fatal: I'm sorry, you are not allowed to post messages to this
list (#5.7.2)
--- Enclosed is a copy of the message.
-- Forwarded message --
From: Chad Woolley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jug-discussion@tucson-jug.org
Date: Tue, 8 Aug
I'm out of town too. Sorry to miss it, Rene!
-- Chad
On 8/8/06, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rene Stone will be giving a presentation on Outsourcing to India:
Everything you always wanted to know but were afraid to ask.
Basically taking a look at outsourcing from someone who is
Just out of curiosity, why isn't dabbledb a contender?
On 7/27/06, Tim Colson (tcolson) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You guessed it, this probably has nothing to do with Java. Go ahead, ban me
from the list. :-P
I'm looking for something that smells like MS Access (or better) Filemaker
that
I was planning on going, and bringing my son. I think I also said I'd
bring some food, but I'll have to check my sent mail to remember what
:)
-- Chad
On 7/12/06, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just curious who all is going Saturday to Mt. Lemmon. I plan on going.
-warner
Well, lets be empirical. Here's a real Rails site: http://communitywalk.com
communitywalk.com is a RoR site that was developed at my current
employer, usually by one or two pairs at a time, with most of the work
done by the site owner (who is an employee too). I didn't work on it
much (was
On 6/24/06, josh zeidner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why is it that every Ruby expert that I run into has
absolutely nothing to show?
I'm definitely not an expert, but I just showed you
http://communitywalk.com in another post. http://zubio.com is another
one we have done. There are a couple
On 6/22/06, Thomas Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dr. Ralph Griswold (creator or SNOBOL and Icon programming languages)
used to say that there's really nothing new under the sun in CS, it's all
recycled.
Yep, you certainly can get a lot of mileage out of just 1's and 0's...
I have to note
Erik,
lowercase web services? What do you use to talk XML on the RoR
side? One of the Ruby SOAP implementations, something homegrown, or
something else?
I work for a Rails shop, and we've done SOAP in one app. The one
thing I noticed it had in common with Java (Axis) was that it NEVER
just
Took me about 2 minutes to call McCain and Kyl - because I had the
numbers right in the email.
Never underestimate the power of big money, soulless corporate
entities, and their lobbyists to spread corruption and evil. I for
one definitely don't mind getting stuff like this on the list. We
The 8th and 15th work for me.
On 6/12/06, Rene Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
For the JUG's anniversary celebration, since it's in the middle of the
hot summer, TR and I were thinking that a pot luck picnic would be fun.
Everyone can bring family friends and we can all get outside for
, Chad Woolley wrote:
I might, depending on the topic, the time, and my availability...
On 4/12/06, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Awhile ago I tried to get a little code sprint going on for people
interested in learning Tapestry and maybe creating something useful.
I would
If we are going to do more stuff on the wiki now, it would be good to
put a link to it on the main JUG home page. And maybe link to the
meeting list on the wiki too, instead of the outdated one on the home
page?
-- Chad
On 4/13/06, Tim Colson (tcolson) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seems like a
Lack of IDE support does suck in Ruby, but there are many other things
to (almost?) make up for it :)
As for the non-Java focus, this is something we discussed in the last
few meetings. Kind of branching out an attempt to give a little more
life to the group, and make it easier to come up with
Thanks Warner, that looks pretty cool. Anything with a session
entitled Behold my Bouncing Balls has to be a winner!
-- Chad
On 4/4/06, Warner Onstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sending this because it looks interesting enough to share with
everyone else. I know it's in Phoenix, but at
I agree here. Comments are valuable, but especially if we are
recording a preso, dissertations from the peanut gallery should be
saved until after the preso and question session is complete. We all
know how geeks love to spout their wisdom, even if they don't want to
step up and do it in the
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