Re: Re[2]: [lace] domain name change

2022-12-05 Thread Karen Bovard
 I agree with Sue about only needing one listserve group.  I used to love
having only one place to go for all things 'lace' and miss the old days. 
Sue's right about the old days needing a separate lace-chat group.  We were a
large group and the real lace content needed to be separated from the non-lace
chatter.  This is not the case anymore.
Karen Bovard-SayreThe ShuttleSmithNeedle Lace ArtsTHESHUTTLESMITH.COM


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On Monday, December 5, 2022 at 08:10:22 AM MST, Sue Babbs
 wrote:

 Liz

We are very grateful to you for continuing to maintain this lacelist.
Many of us have been on it for a long time and appreciate it even though
we don't use it as much as we used to.

I think it would be fine to no longer have lace-chat.  It was created
when we were a very busy list and was a place where non-lace topics
could be chatted about with our lace friends.  Is there an archive for
lace-chat, or only lace? If there is one, is there anyway it's archive
could be kept?  I'm not sure if there is anything we'd want to refer to
in lace-chat archives

Sue

suebabbs...@gmail.com


-- Original Message --
>From "Liz Reynolds" 
To "N.A. Neff" 
Cc "Arachne" 
Date 12/5/2022 8:18:17 AM
Subject Re: [lace] domain name change

>It would change the mailing address you use to request archives, it
>shouldn’t otherwise affect them. I will be sure to test retrieval.
>I’m sure if there are bugs I can get it to work
>-Liz
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>  On Dec 5, 2022, at 9:14 AM, N.A. Neff  wrote:
>
>  Hi Liz,
>  How will this affect the archiving of traffic, or will it? I'm not
>  clear on how the archives are created, managed, or stored.
>  Thanks for making us possible!
>  A happy Arachnid,Nancy
>  Connecticut, USA
>
>  On Mon, Dec 5, 2022, 08:47 Elizabeth Reynolds 
>  wrote:
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>    Greetings to all of you!
>
>    I’m dropping by to let you know that I’ve accepted an
offer
>    for the
>    arachne.com domain.  Although I’ve been inactive myself for
>    quite a few
>    years now, I’m still happy and honored to host the lace list,
>    so I have
>    obtained a new domain for it - arachnelace.com...
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Re: [lace] Lace Advent Calendar 2022

2022-11-30 Thread Karen ZM
Thank you Jean. Something to look forward to.

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Re: [lace] Lorelei Halley

2022-11-17 Thread Karen Bovard
 It's a relief to know that Lorelei's work and heritage will continue on.  I
am relieved that the IOLI has taken over this body of information.
Karen Bovard-SayreThe ShuttleSmithwww.TheShuttleSmith.com
On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 11:50:21 AM MST, N.A. Neff
 wrote:

 Thanks Devon. I will do so, and see if there's anything I can do to help
out.
Nancy

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:52 PM DevonThein  wrote:

> ...
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> I think that questions about it should be directed to Prabha Ramakrishnan
> the IOLI Vice President because she oversees media for the IOLI. Her email
> is vicepresid...@internationalorganizationoflace.org
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Re: [lace] DFZ22 Symposium?

2022-11-12 Thread Karen Bovard
 I for one am really in the dark about DFZ!  When the tutorials were coming
out several months ago and there was chatter about DFZ and Angharad, it seemed
that several if not many of the participants knew what Angharad was dealing
with.  This was frustrating to me because I did not have a clue as to what
was going on.  I just knew that I had paid pretty good money to have access
to the DFZ and there was little if nothing coming out about it.
On Thursday, November 10, 2022 at 07:47:27 PM CST, Carolyn Wetzel
 wrote:

 Hello Arachnids,

There is some concern about Angharad Rixon, because the Doily Free Zone
Symposium is supposed to be coming up soon and no one has heard
anything from Angharad about it, and she has not been answering questions
on the DFZ site.

Do any of you know anything about how she is or what is happening with DFZ?
Is there anything that we can do to help her?

Thanks,
Carolyn
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Carolyn M. Wetzel
Massachusetts, USA

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Re: [lace] The Lace Dress.

2022-09-28 Thread Karen ZM
Does anyone have the email address for Kirsten Brinkmann, as I and perhaps
some other Maltese lacemakers would like to participate in her project, so
I would like to contact her as, I believe, registration had to be made
until September (now).

Karen in Malta.


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[lace] Tønder Lace Festival

2022-05-03 Thread Karen Thompson
Just received my digest.  I am wondering if anyone here will be attending
the Tønder Lace Festival in Denmark this year? It is the first weekend in
June.
I plan to be there, hoping COVID will not stand in my way.  Regretfully, I
will be missing you at the IOLI Convention, as I will be teaching my
classes virtually from home.
-Karen on the Atlantic Coast in Delaware

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Re: [lace] IOLI UnCon 2.0

2021-04-29 Thread Karen ZM
This sounds really, really interesting and makes it possibly for those of
us who live very far from the USA to take part just the same. Waiting with
baited breath for more details.

Karen in Malta


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Re: [lace] How do you line a lace jacket?

2021-02-07 Thread Karen ZM
If your friend intends to use flat fell seams, she may need a tad more
allowances than the original pattern for the lace.
Karen in Malta

On Sun, 7 Feb 2021 at 08:48, Alice Howell  wrote:

> I'm looking for advice.  I hope there's someone on the List who has done
> this.
> My friend is just finishing the lace for a jacket.  She's trying to figure
> out the best way to line it when it's done.  The lace sections do contract
> a
> bit when the lace is off the pins so the pricking is a bit larger than the
> finished lace.
> Should she use the lace or the pricking for her lining pattern?  If she
> traces the actual lace, she will need to add seam/hem allowance.  Perhaps
> the
> shrinkage of the lace would mean the pricking is large enough for
> seams/hems,
> thus eliminating the need to trace the lace.
>
> She's planning to use flat feld seams so there's no raw edges.  And she
> expects to hand baste the lining to the lace along the seams and around the
> edges.  The lace does have some large-ish spaces so she thinks a lining is
> necessary.
>
> Comments and/or suggestions are welcome.
> Thanks so much.
> Alice in Oregon  --  where I'm staying home with my 17 yr old cat, and
> keeping busy with all kinds of projects, including lace.
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[lace] Lace: Arizona site for old books

2020-10-12 Thread Karen Thompson
Dear Arachneans,
Does anyone know what the current procedures are for submitting scans of
out-of-copyright books to the Arizona site?
https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/topic_lace.html

Thank you.

-Karen on the coast in Delaware, where we are having rain and strong winds
today. Always beautiful.

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Re: [lace] Lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread Karen Thompson
Antje and other potential virtual teachers,
I like to keep the virtual classes very small, 4-6 depending on their level
of lacemaking skills.  You can have the students send photos or have them
scare their screen. Then you can annotate but that all takes extra time.  I
teach on Zoom and use "spotlight" to watch each student in turn, like
walking around the classroom. For the beginners, I have them use bright
colored threads, so I can say "the red pair, etc."  which helps a lot.   If
the threads are all the same color, it is pretty much as you say "take the
second pair on the left and pull very slightly to the left... no, not so
strong... a bit further up!!..."  It is a bit crazy.  Having good, clear
diagrams helps a lot, and demonstrating with large threads and pins also
helps.   Virtual teaching is different from in-person teaching but a lot
better than no teaching at all as far as I am concerned.  I practice by
logging into a second device from a different email account so I can see
what the students see.  In Zoom I have bought a subscription so I can stay
on for more than 40 minutes at a time. Some lace guilds here have invested
in that, so their members can use the account for teaching.  Since we are
all interested in promoting lacemaking, we need to adapt.  The virtual
classroom is especially good for introducing younger students to lace.


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[lace] Lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-29 Thread Karen Thompson
Hello all,
I realize I need to clarify my response to the virtual lace classes.
  As a student, I have a large monitor, such as a desktop, laptop, or iPad
in front of me to watch the demonstrations, and for the teacher to see me.
Then I have a second camera, such as a phone, mounted over my lace
pillow so the teacher can follow what I am doing, and give
instant feedback.
Hope this helps.
-Karen

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[lace] lace, Virtual lace classes

2020-09-27 Thread Karen Thompson
Some of my random thoughts on virtual lace classes: Having both taught and
taken several virtual lace classes, I think they are here to stay.  There
are both positives and negatives as with most things in life.  I like that
people can join from anywhere in the world without the expense and time of
travel. It is a way to learn new lace techniques while being forced to be
apart due to the Coronavirus. Quite a number of people have some extra time
on their hands due to the lack of commuting and travel and are eager to
learn something new. It is great to be able to socialize virtually until we
are able to do so again in person.  Many of us have an abundance of
supplies that we don't have to pack up and hope we can get on board a
plane. We just have to pull them out and get ready for class.   As a
teacher, I prefer teaching in-person and being able to demonstrate
new techniques in front of the students and helping them on their pillow,
but demonstrating under a good camera works quite well and can be repeated
as many times as needed. Also as a teacher, I prefer the students having a
camera mounted over their lace pillow so I can see what they are doing and
give real-time feedback. We have had several successful classes for total
beginners in bobbin lace and many of them have communicated that they are
continuing to make lace. I feel the class sessions should be 2-3 hours long
with a break. It seems more tiring to be sitting in front of a computer
screen than being in a classroom.  The price of virtual classes can be much
lower as there is no travel, hotel, and room rental cost.
-Karen

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Re: Re[2]: [lace] Miniature lace pillow

2020-01-28 Thread Karen ZM
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> The miniature lace pillow is awesome. Thanks for sharing the photos.

Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] Photo sharing, Oz Fires and "house space"

2020-01-05 Thread Karen ZM
That is one amazing collection. Hope I remember to spend some time with it
as soon as I can.
Thank you so much for sharing it.

Karen in Malta.



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Re: [lace] 2019-2020 Arachne 25th Anniversary Interchange

2019-11-13 Thread Karen ZM
I am intrigued...what is a silver lacer spoon?

Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] Lassen question

2019-06-23 Thread Karen ZM
Thanks Bobbi. and I also have the diagrams attached. I will print your
message with the diagrams to keep for future reference.

Karen in Malta


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Re: [lace] Lassen question

2019-06-23 Thread Karen ZM
Thanks for the reply.
Karen in Malta


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Re: [lace] Lassen question

2019-06-23 Thread Karen ZM
Interesting to follow the discussion on lassen.

What I am still trying to understand, though, is that once the extra piece
of lace is cut away, what is there to keep it looking neat over time (i.e.
not have a frayed edge)?

Karen in Malta

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[lace] lace identification websites and books

2019-05-13 Thread Karen Thompson
We are really fortunate to have Jean Leader providing her new website
www.lacetypes.com  I just tested it on my hp desktop, and it is terrific. I
also often use Jean's Lace app on my i-phone. It is also very, very useful.
The symbol is a lace cap if you are looking for it. The cost is very
minimal and well worth it. Elena pointed out the V's site
http://www.dressandtextilespecialists.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Lace-Booklet.pdf
which
I also find extremely helpful, especially for identifying the machine made
laces.  Santina Levey's Lace - A History along with Pat Earnshaw's books on
lace identification are all fantastic. There are certainly many more, but
these are the ones I find most useful for most laces.

-Karen on the Atlantic coast in Delaware - and sometimes Washington, DC

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Re: [lace] Arachne v. Facebook

2019-05-11 Thread Karen ZM
I must admit that I do use FB very much as it is so much less complicated
when it comes to sharing photos.
But I always love receiving Arachne emails too- but am guilty of not going
to see photos as, very often, I don’t manage to get to see them (forgotten
links, passwords, names etc). In fact, I only had the digest for a short
while as it used to bother me. I preferred to get individual emails, no
matter how many there were. It was also good for me because if an email had
some information worth keeping, then I saved it in my Lace file in the
computer.
Perhaps, now that the list is mostly quiet, you could consider changing
from digest settings to receiving each email as it comes.

Karen in Malta.


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Re: [lace] the very start of Arachne

2019-04-28 Thread Karen ZM
I cannot remember exactly when I discovered and joined Arachne, but I do
know that 25 years ago, Malta did not yet have Internet or, if at all, it
may have been only available to large companies and only dial-up if at all.
When we bought the first family computer, it was around 23 years ago and
then we only had limited dial-up at an exorbitant cost.our costs for
internet and mobile phone here are still some of the highest in Europe and
in the world too.

Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] Bucks ornament & questions about false picots & Wiltshire area bobbins

2019-03-31 Thread Karen ZM
I have often pondered over the issue of the different tools
(pillows/bobbins/pins/thread) used for the different types of lace. Had I
furthered my studies beyond University Diploma level, I would have liked to
tackle this issue in detail.

Were the bobbins made with a particular wood or bone and to a particular
shape because there was an abundance of the material in the area? Or were
they sourced and shaped because it made working the particular lace easier?

Similarly, what determined the shape and size of the (traditional to a
particular lace) pillow, or the stuffing used?

I do have batches of different bobbins and do like to use the correct type
of bobbins whenever possible.

Karen in Malta.

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Re: [lace] re: Lace Hats

2019-03-09 Thread Karen ZM
Thanks for your reply Susan. I will try to source a book.
Karen

On Sat, 23 Feb 2019 at 22:49, Susan Vossier  wrote:

> Christine Mirecki has designed lots of hats, several of which are sold
> published separately, but the ones which fitted Karen's description
> (rounded crown, wide brim) I have only seen in the first book, Sommerhute,
> which has twelve patterns in all.  She has just brought out another book of
> hats, which I haven't as yet seen (and won't buy anyway, as twelve lace
> hats would be enough for anyone!)
>
> Sue, who usually lurks in France's Rhone valley
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[lace] Lizbeth thread

2019-02-18 Thread Karen ZM
I would like to ask for some help regarding thread size and pricking size
for Torchon lace and/or Guipure style lace (Cluny perhaps).

Can anyone tell me the wpc of Lizbeth sizes 10, 20 and 40 and the grid
sizes I would need to use for each of them.

The information is easily found in the Threads for Lace bible BUT I put it
in a “safe” place a year ago, when I packed all my lace books prior to
moving and now cannot find it! I did not pack it with my lace books because
I use it more than any of my other lace books. Whereas I could survive
without all my others, I though I should leave Threads for Lace out, but I
have been looking for it for more than a week now. In nearly a year of
having moved, my lace, miniatures and embroidery stuff is still totally
disorganised, with some of them still packed away and in storage, where
they will have to stay until my daughter leaves home after getting married
next October. Then I will have the luxury of a second(!) room dedicated to
my hobbies.admittedly, they are really tiny rooms 🙂

I would like to design some lace for my outfit for her wedding and need to
get going on it.

Perhaps someone could also be so good as to point me in the right direction
to finding a basic pattern for a hat that I can then adapt to my preferred
style. What I would like is one that has a rounded crown to “mould” on
the
head with a flat brim, sun hat style and I would like to work it in
something like half stitch, perhaps with some linen/whole stitch for
stability. Another question. Would it be better to use a sinnamay base for
this?

I’d be grateful for any help.

Thanks,
Karen in Malta.

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Re: [lace] New Web site devoted to Lace Bobbins.

2018-12-25 Thread Karen ZM
That is a fantastic piece of work and an excellent resource. Thank you.

Hope your op in January will be successful and your recovery will be a
speedy one.

Karen in Malta

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[lace] re: Ebb 'n' Flow

2018-10-12 Thread Karen Thompson
It is with great interest I have read about Jane Atkins' Ebb 'n' Flow
exhibit. I will be in London on the last weekend of the exhibition and hope
to somehow get there. Is it possible with public transport?

-Karen on the Atlantic beach in Delaware where fall arrived last night.

Karen Thompson
Phone: 703-282-3420

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[lace] New Zealand Lace happenings?

2018-10-12 Thread Karen Thompson
Dear Arachne friends,
Is there anything lace related happening in New Zealand, especially around
the Wellington area, in early December? My husband and I will be in
Wellington for a meeting on Dec. 6 and plan to travel around New Zealand
for several days before and after. We just learned about this, so nothing
has been planned yet, including tickets.

Karen in Delaware, USA

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Re: [lace] 12 pair crossings

2018-09-10 Thread Karen ZM
That is very unusual. Usually we Maltese work a flower motif where the
tallies would be crossed in the centre. It would be more likely to have a
row of flower motifs, ‘sun’ motifs or Maltese crosses on one band that
would be joined to another band of motifs or ground stitches.

Karen

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Re: [lace] 12 pair crossings

2018-09-10 Thread Karen ZM
That would definitely not be traditional Maltese.

Karen in Malta

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[lace] Working with black thread [was "Thread"]

2018-09-05 Thread Karen Thompson
Interesting discussion about working with black thread.  I have worked
many, many hours with black silk thread while reconstructing the Ipswich,
Massachusetts laces from 1789-1790. I do not find it hard to work with when
using light grey pricking stock. The preserved Ipswich lace samples from
the late 1700s were made with black silk thread, not dyed later. Possibly
imported black sewing silk. One of the many areas still needing more
research. The Japanese companies YLI and Clover make nice black silk
threads for this lace. It is also sometimes sold as Tiger.  In regard to
the laces made in Ipswich, MA in the late 1700s, some were made with white
or ecru linen. Regretfully we don't have those samples available to study.
Only the black silk samples from 1789 have been located with correspondence
to Alexander Hamilton.

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Re: [lace] Cilaos needle lace

2018-08-27 Thread Karen Bovard
I see this 'Cilaos' pieces as an embroidery form, not so much a true lace. 
You are right that it is a form of Teneriffe/Sol lace in that woven & knotted
elements are worked on a foundation of weft threads.  I have seen this type
of sol-like embroidery in many older drawn thread work linens.  It is used to
embellish a corner. It appears to me that it is embedded in a fabric base, not
a stand-alone piece of lace.
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 I agree with Sue B., it's got to be a form of Teneriffe (Nanduti, Sol, etc.,
is there a single name to encompass the whole lot?).  Lots of local names for
the same basic technique.  Lay threads radially across a circular "frame"
(could be nothing more than a ring of pins, or could be an object designed and
devoted to this function), weave and interlace threads, usually in a circular
pattern, though and around the radials, then do an edging to hold it all
together.  I don't remember ever seeing so many fine threads bundled
together, though.  The thick, needle-woven rays on the outside of this piece
are like the needlewoven boxes in hedebo and hardanger, but are also often
found in the Teneriffe family.  Not usually so big and fat, though.

Robin P.
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(Little things amuse little minds)

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A friend sent me a photo so I posted it to Arachne Flickr. Perhaps someone
knows more about this?  Cilaos is near Madagascar so maybe Sue Babbs is
familiar with the technique?  Just when we thought we couldn't find any more
lacy stuff to investigate this summer!!  Sincerely, Susan Hottle USA

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Re: [lace] Lace in England?

2018-07-18 Thread Karen ZM
Oops...sorry Girls (and some Guys).if forgot to trim before hitting
send. Mea culpa, I usually trim before I type in the message.
Karen in Malta


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Re: [lace] Lace in England?

2018-07-18 Thread Karen ZM
Lynn
Why not consider renting an automatic car? We always do that, especially if
we are to drive “on the other side of the road”. It takes the headache
out
of shifting with the “other” hand and leaves us to concentrate fully on
the
road.
Karen in Malta

On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 at 12:29 AM,  wrote:

> I know there must be things in the archive about places to see lace in
> England, but I am not smart enough to be able to figure out how to find
> it.  We will be in Peterborough, England, taking a class next April.  We
> are hoping not to have to rent a car, but can do so.  Shifting with the
> left hand is the really hard part.  We are looking for places with lace
> museums, examples of lace, that sort of thing.  These things change over
> time.  Honiton is a bit far, but I had a glorious time there in 2002,
> although I believe the shop on the High Street is gone.  I assume the
> museum is still open.  I know that the V & A's lace collection is
> elsewhere, but I don't know where.  Help!  This is the time to make room
> reservations.  lrb
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[lace] lace: IOLI Bulletin

2018-07-11 Thread Karen Thompson
I, for one, was thrilled to see the IOLI Bulletin being offered in digital
version.  Like most others I much prefer having a printed version, BUT, we
are in the process of downsizing to much smaller space, so I simply do not
have enough storage space for all the wonderful Bulletins.  I hope at some
point in the future the old Bulletins will be digitized, and there will be
a nice digital index of articles and patterns, so they can be searched.
However, since I am not able to do it, it is just wishful thinking.

Hopefully, we can get together at the IOLI Convention.

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[lace] Re: the archetype of the lacemaker- books

2018-05-28 Thread Karen Thompson
Janine Montupet The Lacemaker from 1988 is a fictional story of a needle lace 
maker in the 17th century.  I remember enjoying reading this book years ago, 
thinking that since the author also has written book(s) on lace identification, 
I remember thinking that it probably was fairly accurate. At least a 
fascinating read.

-Karen, usually in Washington, DC, or Delaware, but in Minnesota at the moment

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Re: [lace] Lace projects

2018-05-28 Thread Karen ZM
On Mon, 28 May 2018 at 9:10 PM, Sue  wrote:

> Wow Karen, (not something I often say).  Incredible and it sounds
> absolutely
> fantastic.  I just wish we could see pictures of the finished dress and
> veil
> and also the Mother of both brides in her outfits.
>


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remember the passwords etc. to get into and post to the Flickr album.

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Re: [lace] Lace projects

2018-05-28 Thread Karen ZM
For the past two years, I have been working only wedding lace.

I have had my youngest daughter’s “all or nothing” lace veil on the
pillow,
after about two other years of planning strategy and drawing the pattern.
This was to be a 1.15 metre diameter circular piece worked in bands for
portability, but then joined while working other connecting bands. Now
things have changed and this veil is to have only the three outer bands
forming a border that will be mounted onto tulle. This is because she chose
a dress that is a slightly different ivory to the Piper’s Silk Ivory that I
am using and the dress also has chemical lace appliqué on it which, I feel
will not quite blend in with an “all or nothing” lace veil. (All or
nothing
we’re always her words!)

Now, in order to create some cohesion between the veil and the dress, we
have chosen a tulle that is a shade in between the dress colour and the
silk colour. I will be using some of this tulle and the silk thread to make
flowers, which I traced off the flowers of the dress lace, and we will fix
these flowers on top of the others on the dress - sort of 3D idea, but the
flowers I am making are flat. So far, I am outlining the flowers in
buttonhole stitch and raising the edges, as is done with needlelace. I am
also passing a thin wire around the flower, which will also be covered by
the buttonhole stitch so that it will not curl in on itself.

Last year, Ilaria’s lace was on hold while I prepared a 10 metre border to
edge my elder daughter’s veil. I had only six months in which to do that,
because at first she said she would not be wearing a veil and she didn’t
want any lace either. Then she changed her mind! I used to work half a
metre a week, and only managed it because it was only an inch or so wide,
but I formed the pattern into scallops because she wanted a scalloped edge.
Her idea was for deep, scalloped lace, but I told her I was not a machine
and would definitely not manage it as I also had to sew four bridesmaids’
dresses and my own outfit too.

I also made a flower to wear in my chignon, covered some of a bought
handbag in lace and made a fan in the last three weeks for myself. Oh...and
I had to work two 1.5 metre lengths of very narrow braid for the edge of my
poncho-like top as I couldn’t find a trim in the right colour!

Meanwhile, just after Rebecca’s wedding last June, I worked a modern piece
to put into a frame to take to the UK for a family wedding.

I also have a traditional Maltese lace piece (a centerpiece) on another
pillow

Karen in Malta.

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[lace] Lace: Making lace before diagrams

2018-05-22 Thread Karen Thompson
Karen: I have heard that color-coded working diagrams were developed in
Belgium in
the 1930s

> Marianne Stang: may I make a little correction? The color code was invented
in Bruges in 1911/12.
> The lace school had more than 70 students, so it became necessary to solve
this problem. That's why they came to the color code.
Karen: Dear Marianne,
That was exactly what I was hoping for. That somebody would know and correct
the myth. Thank you. I was surprised nobody had answered before.


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[lace] Re: Lace: Making lace before diagrams

2018-05-21 Thread Karen Thompson
Elena, and other friends,

I have heard that color-coded working diagrams were developed in Belgium in
the 1930s. Before that a numbering system was used by some authors, with
lengthy explanations for each number corresponding to the hole in the
pricking.

Frieda Lipperheide, 1898, Das Spitzenkloppeln

https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/books/lf_lace_1.pdf

developed a fascinating grid system of explaining the stitches. Even if you
cannot interpret the Old German Gothic text and writing, the illustrations
are still fascinating. See page 3 of the book (not the pdf) for the
formula, and then scroll further to see it used. Ms. Lipperheide also uses
the tiny numbers by each hole, as was also used by other authors in the
late 1800s and early 1900s, such as Sara Rasmussen in 1884, and the Torchon
Company in the early 1900s. You will find that the Torchon Lace Company
copied most of their material from Sara Rasmussens book Kloppelbuch.

https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/books/rs_lace.pdf

The Torchon Lace Company
https://www2.cs.arizona.edu/patterns/weaving/monographs/tor_v1_1.pdf

You can read more about the Torchon Company in my blog written for the
Smithsonian
http://americanhistory.si.edu/blog/torchon-lace-company-fine-line-between-entrepreneurship-and-fraud
I am not using the umlaut and apostrophe on purpose to avoid the strange
symbols that show up in the Arachne posts.

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Re: [lace] Computer coding

2018-05-20 Thread Karen ZM
On Sun, 20 May 2018 at 10:20 AM, Gilian Dye <gild...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It is often forgotten that one of the earliest computer programmers was a
> woman - Ada Lovelace...


Ironic to this discussion that her surname was Lovelace 🙂

Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] Duchess of Sussex veil

2018-05-19 Thread Karen ZM
On Sat, 19 May 2018 at 5:11 PM, Susan <hottl...@neo.rr.com> wrote:

> What a knock out veil!


I thought so too.

Karen in Malta

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[lace] Re: Lace: Ipswich, Massachusetts

2018-05-14 Thread Karen Thompson
Liz, yes, the lace on the pillow in the first picture is the one I made. It
is a reproduction from the pattern at the Smithsonian and the corresponding
lace (number 9) in the Library on Congress. It has been on display since
2001.
Karen,
I enjoyed reading the article.  Is the reproduction lace that you made the
one that is shown on the reproduction pillow in the article?
Liz R, Raleigh NC


Date: Sat, 12 May 2018 06:39:10 -0400
From: Karen Thompson <karenhthomp...@gmail.com>
Subject: [lace] lace. Ipswich, Massachusetts, lace

The Smithsonian Museum in Washington, DC, where I volunteer with the lace
collection just published my blog on the Ipswich lace Industry.
You can find it here, or search american history si blog ipswich lace
http://americanhistory.si.edu/blog/ipswich-lace

Hope you enjoy the blog, and please let me know if you can add anything to
the Ipswich story or have questions. There is still much to learn, such as
where the original teacher came from and when.  It is very interesting that
the lace was made on a round bolster pillow, approximately 30 inches (76
cm) circumference and the sewing edge was on the left.  I am guessing, but
have no concrete evidence, that the Ipswich lace makers got most of their
patterns by copying snippets of imported lace. It is also interesting that
only one of the samples they sent to Alexander Hamilton in 1790 has point
ground (c-t-t-t or probably t-t-t-c as they used bolster pillows). The
point ground is used as a filling only in this one sample, not as a ground.
The grounds are kat stitch (Paris ground) or variations on torchon ground.
You are welcome to share the blog with your local guilds.

Karen in either Washington, DC or Bethany Beach, DE

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[lace] lace. Ipswich, Massachusetts, lace

2018-05-12 Thread Karen Thompson
The Smithsonian Museum in Washington, DC, where I volunteer with the lace
collection just published my blog on the Ipswich lace Industry.
You can find it here, or search american history si blog ipswich lace
http://americanhistory.si.edu/blog/ipswich-lace

Hope you enjoy the blog, and please let me know if you can add anything to
the Ipswich story or have questions. There is still much to learn, such as
where the original teacher came from and when.  It is very interesting that
the lace was made on a round bolster pillow, approximately 30 inches (76
cm) circumference and the sewing edge was on the left.  I am guessing, but
have no concrete evidence, that the Ipswich lace makers got most of their
patterns by copying snippets of imported lace. It is also interesting that
only one of the samples they sent to Alexander Hamilton in 1790 has point
ground (c-t-t-t or probably t-t-t-c as they used bolster pillows). The
point ground is used as a filling only in this one sample, not as a ground.
The grounds are kat stitch (Paris ground) or variations on torchon ground.
You are welcome to share the blog with your local guilds.

Karen in either Washington, DC or Bethany Beach, DE

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Re: [lace] Arachne Anniversary

2018-04-17 Thread Karen ZM
On Tue, 17 Apr 2018 at 9:40 PM, miriam gidron <miriam.gid...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Miriam said: I have met a lot of
> lace makers this way,visited them in their homes while travelling and made
> many new friends.
>
>
> I was lucky enough to meet Miriam when she came to Malta several years ago.


I also met a woman, who is now one of my closest friends, through Arachne.
I think we have known each other for about 14 years. Ironically enough, at
the time she lived just a three minute drive from where I lived, but we had
to meet through an international lace forum!

Suffice to say that I can’t imagine my life without Arachne messages to
read

Karen in Malta.

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Re: [lace] Arachne Anniversary

2018-04-13 Thread Karen Bovard
 (No ranting/ravving/crying over the loss of the 'old Arachne' in this post!)
I got involved with Arachne in the mid 90's, pretty close to it's arrival on
the internet and it has been a vital part of my life for all these decades. 
I'm a tatter and needlelacer and I can say I learned a lot about those lace
types here.  I have made friends throughout the world too.  On one trip to
Europe (wedding related) I asked about lace things in Berlin, Germany and
Copenhagen, Denmark.  In both cities I was invited to a lacemaker's home and
had the most enjoyable evening--both vying for being the most memorable part
of my trip.  
I can only hope that at some point, something I said was appreciated a little
bit to start to pay back for the huge amount of information and friendship I
have received from this list!!!
Karen Bovard SayreThe ShuttleSmithOmaha, NE/Council Bluffs,
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Re: [lace] Lacemaker survey

2018-04-09 Thread Karen ZM
>
> 1. Who taught you to make lace?

My first teacher was a woman who, unfortunately, died young of cancer. I
attended lessons with her at a private institute and then moved on to
Government-run evening classes, but still with her as teacher. The woman I
can credit with teaching me most of what I know today is Mrs Edith Grech. I
have been attending lessons with her for about seventeen years, and have
never looked back. She is an excellent teacher as she explains the “why”
to
everything.

>
> 2. At what age did you start to learn?

I was nineteen - now I’m 55.

>
> 3. What attracted you to lacemaking?

Watching the fascinating way Gozitan women threw their bobbins around while
creating something so beautiful when I was still a very young child.

>
> 4. Where do you see lace going in the future?

I believe it will be more of a hobby for those who can spare the time.

>
> 5. Why is lace important to you to preserve?

It’s an ago old art and part of our Maltese culture and history.

>
>
> I, too, enjoyed the recent discussion tremendously.


Karen in Malta.

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[lace] Re: lace books from Lowell Textile Museum

2018-04-06 Thread Karen Thompson
 Jeri wrote: And then, the American Textile History Museum (mostly about 
weaving) in Lowell Massachusetts closed a couple years ago...  I cannot find 
where the
conservation/restoration staff relocated, or where the huge library (including
lace books) was sent...

>From a very reliable source I have learned that most of the lace books went to 
>Cornell University Library.  Most of the sample books went to Henry Ford 
>Museum.  

-Karen
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[lace] Lace revival of the 1970s

2018-03-26 Thread Karen
Very interesting stories in this topic. This is my own version. While in high 
school in Denmark, I saw my mother making bobbin lace. I think she learned it 
as a young girl in the 1910s. In the 1960s adult education classes were offered 
in communities in Denmark, and she finally had a little spare time. In 1974, 
after I had settled in Indiana in the US, I realized I had not seen anybody 
make bobbin lace here. So when my parents visited us I asked her to show me. 
She sent me Sina Kielberg’s book and soon after I found Doris Southard’s book. 
Working on my own from these books, I made very slow progress, especially 
because one was cross twist and the other twist cross. Very confusing for a 
total beginner. In the late 1970s a few friends and our children asked me to 
teach them, so barely one step ahead of them we made progress. We started the 
Lafayette Lacers. Guess this fits in with learning in Europe or from European 
teacher. 

-Karen

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[lace] lace, Bayeux Tapestry

2018-03-26 Thread Karen Thompson
Thanks to Lyn Bailey for pointing out that I seem to have given you the
general blog site. If you search Bayeux Tapestry in the search box you will
come to this:

http://americanhistory.si.edu/blog/2012/09/the-bayeux-tapestry-at-the-smithsonian-yes-but-who-made-it-when-where-and-why.html

-Karen

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[lace] lace, Bayeux tapestry

2018-03-26 Thread Karen Thompson
In response to the inquiry about the Bayeux Tapestry, I was reminded that I
might not have added that we now know who made the needle lace version of
the Bayeux Tapestry at the Smithsonian, and also approximately when. See
http://blog.americanhistory.si.edu/ or search Bayeux tapestry Smithsonian.
Thanks to Michel Bouvot of Caen, who found a catalog from Melville and
Ziffer with a piece that is almost identical, minus the lettering, that
they exhibited in 1906 in Paris. “Les Grandes collections de dentelles
anciennes et modernes'” Exposées au pavillon de Marsan, 1906 –
exposition
de l’union centrale des arts décoratifs - Paris.
They also stated in another catalog from the early 1900s they had
difficulty keeping up with the demand from Americans for this type of lace.
Just another interesting tidbit of lace history.

Karen in sunny but cold Washington, DC

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Re: [lace] Valencienne bobbin

2018-03-13 Thread Karen ZM
The hole in the bottom of the bobbin (to reduce weight?) sounds rather
interesting. I don’t think I’ve ever come across one before. I’d like
to
know more.

Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] Threads for Lace book

2018-02-13 Thread Karen ZM
Well done. I just love it.invaluable when starting any project.

Karen in Malta

On 13 February 2018 at 17:46, Brenda Paternoster <paternos...@appleshack.com
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> Dear Spiders
>
> After a long wait I’m pleased to tell you all that I expect to be
> collecting
> Edition 7 from the printers tomorrow.
> All the info is at:
> http://paternoster.orpheusweb.co.uk/threads/threads.html
>
> I would like to take this opportunity thank all the lacemakers around the
> world who have helped me with this and previous editions with generous
> donations of thread samples.
>
> Brenda in Allhallows
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Re: [lace] re vintage pattern books

2018-01-21 Thread Karen ZM
>
> I wonder how many of us have copies of the classic DMC *Encyclopedia of
> Needle work*?


I had bought a copy of that book for sentimental reasons. My mother was
given one that belonged to my father’s aunts and, as a little child, I used
to love poring over it. Hence, it was one of the first books in my
needlework book collection.

Unfortunately, it is packed away in one of (till now) 145 boxes, ready for
moving in 6 weeks’ time, and it won’t be one of the first boxes I unpack
either. When I do, I will check the publication date, now that this thread
has made me aware of where to find it.

We are moving to a much smaller place, so I may need to (very sadly and
unwillingly) say goodbye to a number of my much loved books, but this will
not be one of them, unless my mother passes her (probably older one) on to
me.

Karen in Malta.

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Re: [lace] Newsletter of Bizzilla (Malta Lace Guild)

2018-01-20 Thread Karen ZM
On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 at 3:51 PM, Clare Lewis <clareandver...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Does anybody know if Is-Seher tal-Bizzilla is still being published?



I’ve checked for you and have been told that apparently, for the time
being, it is not being published.

Karen in Malta

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[lace] Date for Bucks point

2017-12-12 Thread Karen
This little snippet about Toender lace changing to tulle ground cttt. Charlotte 
Paludan. The Museum of Decorative Art, 2000. Published in CIETA Lace group 
newsletter number 31 in September 2000 on Toender Lace. ‘At the end of the 18th 
century, the centre of fashion shifted from the Flemish towns to the northern 
French town of Lille, where the open, gossamer-light twist net gave lace a 
totally new appearance. At the same time, this lace was inexpensive, since the 
twist net could be produced quickly, leading to a sudden upsurge in the demand 
for lace. People in Toender were quick to adapt and soon Lille lace came to 
dominate production in Toender.’  Still no closer than at the end of the 18th 
century. 

-Karen

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[lace] date for Bucks point

2017-12-11 Thread Karen Thompson
Thank you Alex and Devon for chiming in on the question of beginning of the
point ground laces. Devon, it would be interesting to see your pictures. It
seems reasonable that the lighter, airier fashion in the late 1700s with
tiny sprigs lent itself to the double thread ground c-t-t-t as opposed to
the 4-thread grounds like Droschel, Mechlin and Valenciennes. Santina
Levey: Lace A History, p. 71: "...the eighteenth century saw a steady
reduction in the density of pattern" but says nothing about the
construction. The first mention of simple, twist net ground is Fig 352
showing Lille lace from ca.1800.  Judyth Gwynne writes in The Illustrated
Dictionary of Lace p. 32 about blonde: Laces with fond simple ground
(1754-93)... with no reference to where that information came from.
The price of linen certainly also could have contributed to using less
thread, as well as the beginnings of the machine made point ground like
nets. Hannover and Eslykke both say the point ground Tønder laces are
imitating Arras lace around 1800, but I cannot find reference to Arras lace
history.

Karen - currently in Washington DC, where my lace books reside.

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[lace] Smithsonian Ipswich lace pillow

2017-12-11 Thread Karen Thompson
Dear Janice, Lorri and others,
Thank you for all the interest. Hopefully this thread will help shed more
light on a very important part of American handmade lace history.

Janice writes: "One thing I did notice though was that the Smithsonian lace
had a left footside whereas most English lace to my knowledge have a right
hand footside.  Maybe Karen can explain why the change of side if the lady
who produced the lace originally came from England
​."

Elizabeth Lord Lakeman was born in Ipswich​, MA in 1767 and moved to
Hallowell, Maine upon marriage. She worked one of the original Ipswich lace
patterns as a young woman living in Ipswich, MA. It is now in the
Smithsonian collection, where you can see it at:
http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_645070
​
or

as the last object
​ ​
by searching Smithsonian lace collection
​.​
 It corresponds to one of the samples from 1789-1790 at the Library of
Congress
​ (number 9)​
.  Later in her life she made the white point ground lace
​ that is​
left on her Ipswich pillow when she died at the age of 94.
​
At this point we do not know where the first lace teacher in Ipswich, MA
came from or when, but since about 600 lace makers made lace in Ipswich, MA
in 1790, lacem​aking had been practiced
there
​ ​
for a long time. Most likely the original teacher came from the
​c
ontinent or the Downton area as the footside is on the left.
​
Lorri writes:
"
If the bolster was situated opposite of the photo, wouldn't the foot side be
​
on the right.
​"​
 The bobbins are no longer attached, but the direction is still clear from
the finished lace in the back and the broken threads from the bobbins in
the front of the pins. This and all the Ipswich, MA samples have the
footside at the left.

Karen - in sunny and cold Delaware, USA ​
 ​

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Re: [lace] Winding Idrija bobbins for use "palms up" on a bolster

2017-12-11 Thread Karen ZM
In Malta and Gozo we wind clockwise and work palms down.

Karen in Malta.

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Re: [lace] Bucks Point-Hallowell, Maine

2017-12-09 Thread Karen Thompson
I am not sure Jeri's pillow belonged to Mrs. Lakeman. There could have been
other lace makers in Hallowell. Moreover, Jeri's pillow from Hallowell is
much larger than any pillow I have seen from the era of the Ipswich lace
industry. The prickings I have seen from the late 1700s at the Ipswich
Museum are about 30 in or 77 cm long to fit around the Ipswich bolster
pillow. See
http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_645070 or the
last object on the webpage for the Smithsonian lace collection.
-Karen



On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 3:42 PM, DevonThein <devonth...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not to argue with the general premise that Mrs. Lakeman was entitled to
> make point ground on a Ipswich pillow. But she must have had two pillows
> because Jeri acquired hers in Hallowell, Maine. Inquiring minds want to
> know more about this. It can’t be a co-incidence.
>
> Devon
>
>
>
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[lace] Smithsonian Ipswich lace pillow

2017-12-09 Thread Karen Thompson
Hi Susan,
The white lace on the Smithsonian Ipswich pillow is a simple point ground
lace made about 70 years after the Ipswich lace industry.  Moreover, as
Adele pointed out, the Ipswich lace makers made white linen laces in the
late 1700s. We don't have samples, so we don't know what kind it was. The
lace on the pillow is made with cotton thread, which was not commonly used
for lace until the 1830s after gassing (burning off the fuzz of spun cotton
thread) became common. This was well after the Ipswich lace industry had
lost out to machine made laces.
-Karen

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[lace] Bucks Point

2017-12-09 Thread Karen Thompson
To get back to point ground: When was point ground c-t-t-t or t-t-t-c first
used in England, France, or other places? There seems to be mention of it
in the last quarter of the 18th century, but so far I have not been able to
pinpoint an even approximate date from a reliable source.  (I am not where
my books are at the moment, so cannot cite exact sources, but know I tried
in Santina Levey's Lace - A History as well as other reference books).

There has been some confusion about point ground and Ipswich. They are
really two separate issues, as Ipswich (MA) lace from the late 1700s in not
a point ground lace. The confusion has arisen from the fact that a
lacemaker (Mrs. Lakeman) made point ground lace on an old Ipswich pillow.
She might not have had the luxury of owning two pillows, and there is no
reason why a bolster pillow cannot be used for point ground. She might
still have been making lace to sell after she was married, so she would
have changed to a pattern that would be in demand at that time, such as
point ground lace. Moreover at the age of 90, her eyesight might not have
been good enough to work the more complicated patterns she had worked
earlier in her life.
Karen - in snowy Delaware this weekend

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[lace] Re: Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Karen Thompson
Yes, there is a point ground lace on the Ipswich (Massachusetts) pillow at
the Smithsonian. It was being worked on by a 90+ year old lace maker in the
1860s. She had worked Ipswich lace during the late 1700s on the same lace
pillow while living in Ipswich, MA. Not surprisingly she was still using
the equipment she brought with her from Ipswich when she got married and
moved to Hallowell, Maine. It is hard to know where she got her point
ground pricking, but since point ground lace was very common in the 1860s
she could have received that pricking from anywhere. Or maybe she made it
herself from a snippet of lace? We don't know. I think the extra rows of
pinholes makes it possible to make the lace anywhere from 1 1/2 cm to 3 1/2
cm wide. Whether the lace maker used wirkiepin or sewing edge would not
make a difference on the pricking, just the number of bobbins she used.
Hope this helps.
-Karen
F
​rom Devon:​

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 2:19 PM, DevonThein <devonth...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Karen writes:
>
> Ipswich Massachusetts lace is NOT a point ground lace. From a distance it
> might look like it, but as it now has been pointed out, the grounds are
> Torchon variations and Kat stitch.  The only time point ground was used in
> the 22 samples we have from 1790 is as a filling in a motif.  You may want
> to see them in my book The Lace Samples From Ipswich, Massachusetts
> 1789-1790.  It is available through some lace dealers as well as Amazon
>
>
>
> But, isn’t the lace on the pillow at the Smithsonian, made by the 90 year
> old lacemaker in 1860, who had worked lace in the 1780s and 90s in Ipswich,
> MA a point ground lace? This conversation started out as a discussion of
> working point ground lace without pins, which this pillow appears to
> confirm. What are we looking at?
>
>
>
> Was the 90 year old lacemaker well into her dotage and essentially winging
> it, perhaps for a demonstration?
>
> I have been working the Running River and am planning to do it at the Bust
> Craftacular in Greenpoint, Brooklyn tomorrow. (Brooklyn Expo Center, 11-7.)
>  The Brooklyn Lace Guild will have a booth. I was thinking of trying out
> the idea of working pinless in the point ground. I share Lyn’s confusion
> about why there are two rows of pin holes that are not used. I, for one,
> think that the 90 year old lacemaker should have made the row that she used
> as her edge row a winkie pin row, and the row to the left of that her edge
> row. I think that the winkie pin (hope that is the right term for pinning
> to the side of the pair when returning to the edge)  would help to align
> the entire row.
>
> Devon
>
>
>
>
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[lace] Ipswich lace

2017-12-09 Thread Karen Thompson
Maureen, Nancy and others,
Ipswich Massachusetts lace is NOT a point ground lace. From a distance it might 
look like it, but as it now has been pointed out, the grounds are Torchon 
variations and Kat stitch.  The only time point ground was used in the 22 
samples we have from 1790 is as a filling in a motif.  You may want to see them 
in my book The Lace Samples From Ipswich, Massachusetts 1789-1790.  It is 
available through some lace dealers as well as Amazon. 
Since I subscribe to the digest version I have not been able to respond 
immediately. My apologies.

-Karen

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[lace] Ipswich Lace pillow

2017-12-08 Thread Karen Thompson
Dear Ann,

I think two Ipswich, Massachusetts lace pillow entries are mixed here. Jeri
wrote about her very interesting pillow under Ipswich style pillow.  Under
the Bucks Point discussion I gave a link to the one with the tag, which is
in the Smithsonian Museum collection in Washington, DC, USA. You can find
it by searching: Smithsonian lace collection, and scrolling to the next to
the last object or
http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_644978
By clicking on the title of the Ipswich lace pillow entry, several pictures
are available. The text on the label says: "She lived to be over 90, worked
on this pillow the day she died. She feared she lacked "dying grace" but
God took her while she knelt in prayer". Hope this clarifies.

Karen, currently at snowy Bethany Beach, DE, but as often in Washington, DC


Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2017 21:46:33 +
From: Ann Humphreys <ann.humphr...@talktalk.net>
Subject: [lace] Ipswich style pillow

I didn’t receive any replies to my question so I will  try again.
I can read the first few lines of the tag.
(She lived to be over 90 and worked on this pillow the day she died)
I can’t decipher the rest but would like to know.

Ann
UK

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Re: [lace] Bucks point - on Ipswich-style Pillow at Smithsonian

2017-12-07 Thread Karen Thompson
There is not necessarily a relationship between American Ipswich Lace and
England's Bucks Point, except that Mrs. Lakeman, who had made Ipswich lace
in the late 18th C, used her equipment from that period to make the newer
Point ground lace later in her life.

-Karen

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[lace] Bucks point

2017-12-07 Thread Karen Thompson
You can see the pricking on an original Ipswich pillow from the late 1700s
on the Smithsonian lace collection website:
http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_644978
Click on expand, and then there are 9 images.
Note that the foot side is on the left.

To see the rest of the 45 objects currently on the website, search:
Smithsonian lace collection, plus the War Laces at: Smithsonian War Lace
 Yes, regretfully still only very few of the approximately 6,000 lace
objects...  I keep working on it, trying to get past the bureaucracy...

-Karen in Washington, DC

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[lace] Re: [lace] Buck’s pricking

2017-12-06 Thread Karen Thompson
I have tried working without the pins in the ground, and find it hard to
keep the right tension, but I am sure with practice it would be fine. It
certainly would be much faster and cheaper.

Karen
On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Devon Thein <devonth...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Karen, have you tried working it without the pins?
> Devon
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[lace] Buck’s pricking

2017-12-06 Thread Karen
In the Smithsonian Museum collection in Washington DC there is a well used 
Bucks pricking without holes pricked for the ground. It was used in the 1860s 
by a lacemaker who had made lace in Ipswich during the late 1780s and early 
1790s. She used very fine threads for the simple Bucks edging. I have 
reconstructed it. 

-Karen in sunny but cold Washington DC

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Re: [lace] Bucks Prickings

2017-12-03 Thread Karen ZM
I've been following your discussion with interest - now it's time to
comment.

In Maltese lace, we never pre-prick our patterns - at least not to my
knowledge - and this was never mentioned in lectures of Maltese lace
history either. If a pattern is pricked (has holes) it means it has been
used to work on.

We also work the boll stitch (punt tal-balla) without any pins, except at
the edges. The stitch is used where lots of ground is needed, and
especially in ecclesiastical garments, both with fine threads and thicker
ones, just because it can be worked up relatively fast.

May I take this opportunity to wish everybody a happy festive season.

Karen in Malta.

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Re: [lace] Advice wanted please

2017-10-26 Thread Karen ZM
What I usually do is first cut the elastic to the needed size + a little
extra for sewing (about 1 inch overlap). I then stretch this as much as I
can while machine sewing the blue ribbon directly to the elastic. I usually
sew very close to both edges to avoid the ribbon from turning in.
Alternatively, if it is very narrow, I have sometimes used a zig-zag stitch
as wide as the ribbon. I then pass this new "elasticated ribbon" through
the garter. After sewing the ends together, I make another little bow,
sometimes with something decorative in the centre, and stitch it to hide
the overlap.

I hope you can understand my explanation.

Karen in Malta.

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Re: [lace] FW: Quaker samplers from Ackworth, Doing Research at Museum Sites

2017-10-10 Thread Karen ZM
Thanks for those links Jeri.
I usually put them aside for times when I am not too busy and can afford to
spend time browsing.

Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] Twelve years is a long time

2017-09-12 Thread Karen ZM
I will miss your informative emails very much, as I'm sure many others will
too.

Karen in Malta


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[lace] re: Ipswich Lace sampler book

2017-06-08 Thread Karen Thompson
Thank you so much for your support of my Ipswich Lace sampler book. It is
very gratifying to hear that my efforts are appreciated. A special thank
you to Jeri for your positive review and good advice on The Lace Samples
from Ipswich, MA, 1789-1790.
Please let me know of any mistakes you find that need to be addressed in a
possible future revised edition. On first read-through of the printed
version I found that p.10, line 4, (fig.3) should be (fig.2).

Those of you coming to the IOLI Convention in July can pre-order the book
from me (privately) before July 1 with a $2 discount ($22), with payment
and pick-up at Convention. The book will also be available through Holly
Van Sciver and Maria Provencher, as well as Amazon.  Canadian friends: I
have been informed that the book will be listed on Amazon-ca after June 25.

Looking forward to seeing more Ipswich lace embellishing clothing and being
made, displayed, and demonstrated. I find it to be a fun and challenging
lace. Warning to those of you wanting to make corners. Only a few of the
patterns are on 45 or 60 degree grid.  In order to get the motifs as close
to the original as possible, I used different angles for the grid in most
of the reproductions (Thanks to the Lace8 program). Besides, corners in
lace were not common in 1790 in this type of lace. Straight borders were
gathered or folded for corners.

Happy lacing
-Karen on sunny and warm East Coast of the US

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[lace] Book on the Ipswich Samples from 1789-1790

2017-06-06 Thread Karen Thompson
The samples of black silk lace edgings made in Ipswich, Massachusetts, in
1789-1790 are finally available to all lace makers and historians.
"THE LACE SAMPLES FROM IPSWICH, MASSACHUSETTS, 1789-1790. Patterns and
Working Diagrams for 22 Lace Samples Preserved at the Library of Congress"
ISBN 978-0-9990385-0-5, by Karen H. Thompson is now in print!!
Over the last many years I have been working on and off reconstructing
these wonderful samples, and have now made the complete set available in a
book format for everybody to enjoy. The soft-cover book has a short
introductory history, building on Marta Cotterell's Ipswich book from 2003.
A few pages are dedicated to basic technical information, including the key
to the color-coded diagrams. The main section is the patterns. Each pattern
has 2 facing pages with an image of the original sample, the reconstructed
sample, the color-coded diagram and the the full-size pricking.  The
pricking is located close to the edge of the page, so it can be copied (for
personal use only, please). A couple of the more complicated patterns has 2
extra pages with detailed diagrams.   The book is available through Amazon,
both in the US and on other continents. It retails for $24, or the
equivalent in other currencies. You will be able to preview several pages
on the Amazon site. At the IOLI Convention in Philadelphia July 16-22, 2017
the book will be available from Holly Van Sciver and Maria Provencher, and
by pre-order from me directly, as long as I receive the order before July
1. Please contact me privately.
It is my great hope my many long hours with this project will be of benefit
and pleasure to the lace community.

Karen on the East coast of the US

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Re: [lace] "Continental Lace Bobbins" (Lace Bobbins of the world?)

2017-05-26 Thread Karen ZM
Hi Brian,

I do have quite a large collection of bobbins and many old/antique
continentals and Honitons too. Since I am preparing to move house (although
I haven't found a new one yet but have sold this one), I will soon be
packing these and will be happy to let you have any photos you need while I
am in the process, if you want to give me further details.
I will definitely need a few more weeks though as my daughter is getting
married tomorrow week and I am right in the swing of finishing wedding
lace, flowers, favour etc. Once the wedding is over, I am expecting to be
exhausted for a while till I come down off my adrenaline high..it
always happens to me after a big job!

Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] Rauma lace

2017-05-03 Thread Karen ZM
When I have a lot of tallies in my work, and I do MANY tallies, I usually
try to hide a knot in the centre of the tally. I switch threads, if need
be, with a tally passive. Alternatively, if this is not positive and the
thread is fine, I put the knot up and out of the work by lengthening the
thread and support it on a pin. I carry on working as usual and then,
eventually, cut that thread close to the pin and knot it, placing the knot
as close to the work as usual. Since we work on the 'wrong side' of the
lace, the knot is then on the underside of the work.
Hope this reply is helpful and that I have explained myself clearly enough.

Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] Malta

2017-03-13 Thread Karen ZM
Unfortunately Julie, there is not much lace on display in Malta and no
dedicated museum, though a few pieces could be found here and there.

Perhaps if you tell me how long you are here for (and which days of the
week), I will ask at a lesson I attend in Qormi. The parish church of St
George dos have a beautiful collection of lace and embroidery - not all on
display - but I will have to check when they are open. I also know of a
private collection in Valletta and perhaps you can make arrangements to see
some of the lace. It is in an old, beautiful house worth seeing, but the
lace is not on display - it would have to be brought out specially.

Also, if you have enough time to go to Gozo (sister island), there is a
small museum with a wonderful collection there.

If you wish, you may write to me off list.

Karen in Malta.

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Re: [lace] Lacemaking

2017-03-09 Thread Karen ZM
I was only 19 when I started to learn lacemaking. As many of you probably
know, our traditional Maltese pillow is a long, upright, bolster sort of
pillow (perhaps like a roughly rolled cigar). I used to put this into a
long bag and strap it to my back to ride on my little motorcycle to my
lessons. Whenever I met a friend on the way, they would ask what strange
thing I was carrying and whenever I replied that it was a Bobbin lace
pillow, the retort always was, "But you're too young to work lace!!!"

Nobody says that any more since I am now 54 🙂

Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] Lace: Point ground laces

2017-02-17 Thread Karen Thompson
Devon, Thank you for correcting this. I am away from my books at the
moment. It makes much more sense that he studied the point ground laces in
the early 1800s, when there is no question they were made. Another sample
of disinformation in some of the old articles.
Karen - in sunny and cool Delaware

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Re: [lace] Lace: Point ground laces

2017-02-16 Thread Karen Thompson
Lorelei,
I agree completely. I have never read anywhere that the lace made in
Buckingham in 1750 was point ground. What made me pause on this article was
that Mr. Heathcoat supposedly learned to make lace from the Buckingham lace
makers around 1753 and imitated the point ground on his Loughborough
machine. But the machine was not made until 1809, and we know that point
ground was made before that. So could he have tried, unsuccessfully, to
imitate other grounds, like Mechlin, earlier? and not until the point
ground was made by hand could he make it by machine? Also, we have no idea
what background Mr. Smiles had for writing his article in 1859.
As usual, more questions than answers.
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Re: [lace] Lace: Point ground laces

2017-02-16 Thread Karen Thompson
Thank you for the comments on the point ground. Hopefully there will be
more. As Devon and Lorelei say, it makes sense that due to fashion changes
in the late 1700s to much simpler and lighter laces and clothes in general,
the point ground provided a lighter background for the motifs. At the same
time it was also quicker to make.
Point ground is also the ground that was imitated on the early twist net
lace machines. By looking online I found this when searching for John
Heathcoat, lace machine.
http://victorianweb.org/technology/inventors/heathcoat.html Here we can
read that John Heathcoat at the age of 21, in 1753, 'laboured to compass
the contrivance of a twist traverse-net machine. He first studied the art
of making the Buckingham or pillow-lace by hand, with the object of
effecting the same motions by mechanical means'. From Samuel Smile's
Self-Help (1859). If this is true, lace makers in Buckingham made point
ground lace in 1753. It would be great to ascertain this from other
sources. Mr Heathcoat's fist successful lace machine making bobbin net was
set up in 1809.
-Karen

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Re: [lace] Lace: Point ground laces

2017-02-16 Thread Karen Thompson
The angles of the samples are anywhere from about 33 to 68, sometimes in
the same piece! Some of this might be due to distortion of the samples
between being made in 1789 and being mounted on acid-free board in the
1970s or 1980s at the Library of Congress. Or the prickings might have been
distorted by having been copied a number of times - or from the snippet of
lace they made the pricking from.
-Karen

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[lace] Lace: Point ground laces

2017-02-16 Thread Karen Thompson
It is with great interest that I have followed the conversations about
Mechlin, Valenciennes, Binche, etc. and am wondering if the conversation
can continue with point ground. So far, I have not been able to find a date
(approximate) for the start of point ground laces. The closest I have come
is late in the 1700s.  Of the 22 Ipswich lace samples made in Massachusetts
between 1789 and 1790 and preserved at the Library of Congress, only one of
them employ point ground, and that is as a filling. Most of the grounds are
Paris ground/Kat stitch or some version of Torchon, including honeycomb. My
guess is that point ground was fairly new, but one of the lace makers
figured out how to make it from a snippet of imported lace.  Any help will
be greatly appreciated.

-Karen  - usually in Washington, DC or Delaware

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Re: [lace] Lace on my window

2017-01-23 Thread Karen ZM
That is a beautiful piece of lace. I just love the Spanish laces and I have
the three catalogues in the same series as the one you have given the link
from. I don't think I've actually worked any of the pieces as they are, but
they serve as inspiration when I want to start a new project or design a
piece myself.
I have been to Camarinas to participate, on behalf of Malta, in the Easter
week lace fair about 9 years ago and it was a wonderful experience.

Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] posting issues and a new lace adventure

2017-01-17 Thread Karen ZM
Cindy from Dallas wrote: "when I have added Jeri’s e-mail address to the
contacts section on the Gmail website interface, I finally started receive
her e-mails again!"
You're lucky Cindy. My gmail still doesn't like Jeri's address and I have
to keep checking my spam box to read her (very interesting and informative)
messages.

Karen in Malta




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Re: [lace] Re: Pincushion

2017-01-12 Thread Karen ZM
Joy Beeson - I loved reading all about your pincushions. The account
reminded me a little of the essays we would sometimes be asked to write in
lower secondary school, e.g. I Am a Pencil 😊
A very colourful account indeed.

Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] Re: "Lace" Magazine Number 164 Raffle Winner

2016-12-11 Thread Karen ZM
Congratulations Amanda - enjoy the magazine.
Thank you for organizing this Sue.
Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] Re edgeing

2016-09-19 Thread Karen ZM
It's a lovely piece of work.
Karen in Malta

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Re: [lace] Gertrude Whiting - Potted Biography?

2016-09-07 Thread Karen ZM
​Well done Brian. I am sure that this will be a valuable resource for
lacemakers worldwide.
Thank you.
Karen in Malta​


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Re: [lace] Dividing pins help

2016-08-30 Thread Karen ZM
I use super glue.
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Re: [lace] Translation help?

2016-08-28 Thread Karen ZM
Although I have no idea of this pattern or the translation, you have me
intrigued. What is a kiss stitch?
Karen in Malta

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[lace] Needle Tatting

2016-08-26 Thread Karen ZM
I have a question for the tatters who can help.

What does one do if a pattern calls for two shuttles when you are needle
tatting? I am struggling to progress with needle tatting as I find it too
painful to tat with a shuttle. I have tried looking for some videos, but
cannot find anything specific.

Grateful for any help.

Thanks,
Karen in Malta.

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Re: [lace] Lace on display in London?

2016-08-22 Thread Karen ZM
The V & A lace is now ​at Blythe House, just off Kensington Olympia - That
is the nearest train station.
You must liaise with them as early as possible. For a while when my
daughter was living in the UK (and just round the corner from Blythe
House), I only managed to visit once for an informative visit on how they
store everything, but never managed to secure a date for a study visit as I
would only know I was going from four to six weeks before, and it was never
enough!
Karen in Malta

PS - Hope this message has former messages trimmed off as I cannot see them
anywhere to delete them

On 22 August 2016 at 09:49, J-D Hammett <jdhamm...@msn.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> You have to get organised as the whole of the lace collection of the V
> has
> been moved to another large house in or near London. I cannot remember the
> name of it, but you have to contact the V to gain access anyway so you
> can
> liaise with them.
>
> Joepie
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Re: [lace] Wearing lace

2016-08-02 Thread Karen ZM
😂😂😂😂😂😂

Good one Brian.

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Re: [lace] Lace The Torchon Lace

2016-07-23 Thread Karen
Dear Antje and arachneans,

Mr. Lewis copied most of his material, including the lace pillow from the
Danish author Sara Rasmussen's Knipling (also published in German at the same
time). And maybe the Swedish lacemaker he saw was using a Danish style pillow.
-Karen


> On Jul 23, 2016, at 3:35 AM, AGlez <antje.gonza...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What an interesting article, Karen! I had heard in Arachne about the
Princess Pillow, but didn't really know what you were talking about!
>
> Now, a question arises after reading your article: here in Europe I have
seen the Danish pillows, which are so similar to this "machine". Did Lewis
copy it or, at least, get a lot of inspiration?
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> Thanks a lot for sharing your article!
>
>
> Antje González, inSpain
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> www.vueltaycruz.es
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[lace] Lace The Torchon Lace

2016-07-22 Thread Karen
This is my blog about the Torchon Lace Company, which made the Princess Lace 
Loom in the early 1900s in the USA and later also Australia


http://americanhistory.si.edu/blog/torchon-lace-company-fine-line-between-entrepreneurship-and-fraud

Still at the IOLI Convention in Indianapolis
-Karen

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Re: [lace] finishing lace garters.

2016-06-29 Thread Karen ZM
Perhaps you can just pull the elastic as tightly as needed, cut off the
extra (just leaving a bit to overlap). Then with needle and thread, sew the
elastic and let it pull itself into the casing. You could also have a small
blue rose at hand (something blue) to sew onto the place where the casing
meets to hide the joint.
Karen in Malta.

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Re: [lace] 2016 Bookmark Exchange website now open

2016-06-25 Thread Karen ZM
Well done to all who participated, and thank you to Jenny Brandis for
taking the work to update the site.
There are many lovely bookmarks.

Karen in Malta

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[lace] ​ [lace] "Tribute to Ardoye" war lace

2016-06-13 Thread Karen Thompson
​Hi Vickie,

In response to your question:

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I have a construction question about the second piece on the first page of
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the war laces section.  It's a table runner titled "Tribute to Ardoye".


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The embroidered emblems surrounded by lace ground on the border of this
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piece appear to have button hole stitch edges.

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Would they have been appliquéd using a buttonhole stitch onto a large area
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of ground after the lace was complete or would the ground have been sewn
onto
​
the buttonhole stitches as the lace border was made?


The embroidered emblems on the Tribute to Ardoye War Lace are embroidered
​on woven ​fabric
with satin stitch and French knots. No buttonhole stitches are used. The
outside of each emblem is bordered with tightly spaced satin stitches. The
ground is made to fit, not carrying behind the emblems. The back of each
emblem has a 1/16th inch wide (about 1.5 mm) tightly woven(?) ring,
possibly made with bobbin lace, to which the ground and emblems are
whip-stitched.



http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/object-groups/world-war-one-laces



-Karen in Washington, DC​

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Subject: [lace] "Tribute to Ardoye" war lace

2016-06-08 Thread Karen Thompson
Hi Vickie and other Arachneans,

Great question about the Tribute to Ardoye War Lace:










* I have a construction question about the second piece on the first page
ofthe war laces section.  It's a table runner titled "Tribute to Ardoye".
The embroidered emblems surrounded by lace ground on the border of
thispiece appear to have button hole stitch edges.  Would they have been
appliquéd using a buttonhole stitch onto a large areaof ground after the
lace was complete or would the ground have been sewn ontothe buttonhole
stitches as the lace border was made?*

I will check next week when I am back at the Smithsonian and let you know.
I am spending a week at the beach making lace and do not have access to any
more images of the laces than you do this week. Instead of answering what I
think it is, I will check before answering.

You can see the War Laces and samples from the Lace collection at

http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/object-groups/world-war-one-laces

http://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/object-groups/lace-collection

When you click on Expand in the upper right corner and then View full
record in the lower right you can see more images for some of the laces.
These images can be enlarged on your screen.
Many more will be added to the lace-collection group.

​-​
Karen
​in sunny Delaware on the Atlantic coast​

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