I make and teach Romanian Point Lace and have always thought that it
should/could be considered a 'Tape Lace'. It uses the same principles that
Battenberg--couch down the tape/cording and then do needlework filling
stitches to make the materials into a cohesive piece of lace.
Yes the
cording
In response to Susan:
There are many ways of making lace, employing different tools or only the
fingers (in some cases). I think it difficult to start to re-define.
We've tried this before and fallen into confusion over exceptions. You
asked
about Battenburg, Russian Idrijan, and
Hello All! The online photos of the Scranton Lace facility are mind boggling!
Thanks for posting--I can hardly wait to see the TV program. Thanks also for
the tape braid discussion. After making Battenburg as tape lace, I was
surprised when friends labeled Russian Idrija as the same.
Subject: Re: [lace] Definitions
Thie 'thread' makes me smile!My late husband, if anyone asked him what
on earth I was doing with my pillows and bobbins (seemingly, neither of
which had some of them ever seen before) always used to tell people that I
was 'joining holes together with bits
I really like your definitions... sounds logical...
Faye
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I must question the use of scaffolding, as it implies
what a great poem
Faye of Drumore, PA USA
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Carol, as you said you're fairly new to Arachne, you probably haven't seen
That would include the wire fences made with BL techniques and die-cut paper
doilies.
It is very difficult to write a definitive definition of lace which includes
everything which is lace but excludes what some people might say is not lace!
Personally I would include almost everything that's
Thie 'thread' makes me smile!My late husband, if anyone asked him what
on earth I was doing with my pillows and bobbins (seemingly, neither of
which had some of them ever seen before) always used to tell people that I
was 'joining holes together with bits of yarn'. It did make some people
sections,
i.e.holes, are necessary to the design.
Regina Haring
New York
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That would include
Carol
I really like the joining holes together with bits of yarn definition! I
have always thought that the holes were more important than the thread. Lace
is the artful juxtaposition of different kinds of holes.
Lorelei
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This 'thread' makes me smile!My late husband, if anyone asked him what
on earth I was doing with my pillows and bobbins (seemingly, neither of
which had some of them ever seen before) always used to tell people that I
was 'joining holes together with bits of yarn'. It did make some people
Try researching needlelace to it's beginning, where a lot of times, in
books, it was called all sorts of things, including by the embroidery terms.
It gets very confusing. I'll think I'm reading about needlelace, then
suddenly realize I've been reading about embroidery of some sort all along!
I must question the use of scaffolding, as it implies it as an part of an
infrastructure, when scaffolding is essentially a structure with scaffolds
(akin to sophisticated ladder) to provide access by a worker, that never
supports the structure itself, but rather access to be able to execute the
Carol, as you said you're fairly new to Arachne, you probably haven't seen
this poem of mine before - apologies to those who already have:
What is lace?
Lace is just air
Surrounded by thread
Without us lacemakers
The skill would be dead.
Lace can be bobbins
Flung about with great speed
Weaving
Some things to consider:
In English, a first meaning of lace is a string thing that lassos
(encloses). eg shoelace.
'braid' is a way to make a 'lace' and braid on a military uniform is often
referred to as 'military lace' (we've gone down this road before on arachne
LOL).
The English word
Noelene I LOVE it
Sue in EY
On 1 Jul 2010, at 23:17, Noelene Lafferty wrote:
Carol, as you said you're fairly new to Arachne, you probably
haven't seen
this poem of mine before - apologies to those who already have:
What is lace?
Lace is just air
Surrounded by thread
Without
;-D) I have been reading these very clever and scholarly definitions
of lace. The other day I was cleaning out something-or-other and a slip of
paper fell to the floor. You must remember that I am an incurable keeper
of bits of paperwith little thoughts of mine or others!
This
That's according the Encyclopädia Britanica lace is an ornamental openwork
fabric formed by looping, interlacing, braiding or twisting threads. what I
found and I agree with it Ilske
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The only challenge is, it leaves out cutting/making holes in textiles such as
hardanger, or chemical, and so
My request, Please share your ideas about definitions for bobbin lace and
needle lace. has grown into a lively discussion about definitions of lace.
How do you clearly and distinctly define bobbin lace and needle lace?
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Going back to my original definition:
A textile fabric constructed from one or more threads which are interwoven or
looped together to form a decorative pattern of open and close areas within
that fabric.
Bobbin lace is a textile fabric with a decorative pattern of open and close
ares,
Margaret
Defining the difference between bobbin lace and needle lace is probably the
easiest part of the question.
Bobbin lace is a weaving technique in which the warps are not permanently
fixed to a beam but are weighted by bobbins (which also serve to store the
thread and serve as a handle for
Happened to notice in the current IOLI Bulletin that the Powerhouse Museum
in Australia is sponsoring an International Lace Award. Their goal is to
redefine traditional expressions of lace and its design applications.
They say -
For the purposes of this award we define lace as: an openwork
Hand made lace techniques include: knitting, crochet, tatting, embroidered and
tamboured nets, sprang, needle laces made with buttonhole stitches.
Machine made lace includes: warp knitting, weft knitting, chemical lace.
Brenda
On 29 Jun 2010, at 01:07, margaret palen wrote:
Brenda, please
In the 19th century real lace was bobbin lace or needle lace. Tatting,
crochet and all the other techniques including machine made lace was not real
lace!
On 29 Jun 2010, at 00:21, colonialart...@frontier.com wrote:
There are so many types they call lace... and some say there are only 2
Here in Germany, we still think like this:
In the 19th century real lace was bobbin lace or needle lace. Tatting,
crochet and all the other techniques including machine made lace was not real
lace!
And in my opinion it would be better to add to crochet, knitting and others
knitted-lace or
That's
according the Encyclopädia Britanica lace is an ornamental openwork fabric
formed by looping, interlacing, braiding or twisting threads.
what I found and I agree with it
Ilske
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In the 19th century real lace was bobbin lace or needle lace
I'm usually a lurker and now your ideas are needed about definitions for
bobbin lace and needle lace. There are various descriptions of many kinds of
bobbin lace or needle lace but they are not definitions of either term. True
handmade lace is weaving in contrast to other forms of making objects
Some hand made lace is weaving - some is not.
Some machine made lace is woven, some isn not
Some weaving is lace, some is not.
As a starting definition I would describe lace as:
A textile fabric constructed from one or more threads which are interwoven or
looped together to form a decorative
In message c40badad-fc41-4843-9924-a6158828f...@appleshack.com, Brenda
Paternoster paternos...@appleshack.com writes
What does anyone else think?
Brenda
I'd agree with you, Brenda. I think we once got it down to lace being
holes surrounded by thread. Restricting to bobbin and needlelace (as
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Some hand made lace is weaving - some is not.
Some machine made lace is woven, some isn not
Some weaving is lace, some is not.
As a starting definition I would
Hello everyone,
Well, Jane O'Connor wanted me to post this so here goes... Modern and
Contemporary are so close in meaning that I think they should be tossed out.
It should be:
1.. Traditional
2.. Mixed Lace
3.. Or - give it a new name.
Lacemakers who design are:
1.. Traditionalists
On Mar 21, 2005, at 9:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Devon) wrote:
Finally, I said, the white stuff thus confirming that he was not
going deaf or failing to recognize an exotic word.
White stuff is what he shovels off his driveway some winters; lace
isn't something so totally unknown (not necessarily
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