On 4/4/2012 6:33 πμ, waldo kitty wrote:
agreed... plus we do not know how many years the v1.0 of delphi was in
development... we might guess based on TP/BP stuffs but we still do
not know for sure... it can easily be for more years than FP/Laz has
been in development ;)
Not really, this quote
Am 10.04.2012 13:05, schrieb Kostas Michalopoulos:
On 4/4/2012 6:33 πμ, waldo kitty wrote:
agreed... plus we do not know how many years the v1.0 of delphi was in
development... we might guess based on TP/BP stuffs but we still do
not know for sure... it can easily be for more years than FP/Laz
Kostas Michalopoulos schrieb:
So if you think about it, if Borland worked on Delphi more than Lazarus,
then they'd need to work on it before even Windows 1.0 was released :-P.
Lazarus should have released versions 2..7 and following, but the
developers seem to think that a 1.0 version can be
On 4/9/2012 06:25, Bernd wrote:
2012/4/9 waldo kittywkitt...@windstream.net:
interesting... i do not recall useride in what i was looking at in the
makefile but... where do you see this listed as a make target?
A few months ago I noticed a commit regarding this (I have the svn log
in my rss
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:11:37 -0400
waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote:
On 4/9/2012 06:25, Bernd wrote:
2012/4/9 waldo kittywkitt...@windstream.net:
interesting... i do not recall useride in what i was looking at in the
makefile but... where do you see this listed as a make target?
On 4/10/2012 10:16, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012 10:11:37 -0400
waldo kittywkitt...@windstream.net wrote:
On 4/9/2012 06:25, Bernd wrote:
2012/4/9 waldo kittywkitt...@windstream.net:
interesting... i do not recall useride in what i was looking at in the
makefile but... where
2012/4/9 waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net:
interesting... i do not recall useride in what i was looking at in the
makefile but... where do you see this listed as a make target?
A few months ago I noticed a commit regarding this (I have the svn log
in my rss reader) which made me curious
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012 12:25:43 +0200
Bernd prof7...@googlemail.com wrote:
2012/4/9 waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net:
interesting... i do not recall useride in what i was looking at in the
makefile but... where do you see this listed as a make target?
A few months ago I noticed a commit
2012/4/5 waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net:
an ignorant (meaning uneducated!) look at the Makefile in the lazarus root
turns up the following on line 3910...
all: lazbuild lcl ideintf components tools ide starter
which i /think/ indicates that one could leave out the ide target like
On 4/8/2012 06:51, Bernd wrote:
2012/4/5 waldo kittywkitt...@windstream.net:
an ignorant (meaning uneducated!) look at the Makefile in the lazarus root
turns up the following on line 3910...
all: lazbuild lcl ideintf components tools ide starter
which i /think/ indicates that one could
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:33 PM, waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote:
On 4/5/2012 14:54, waldo kitty wrote:
On 4/5/2012 12:53, Marcos Douglas wrote:
In another words, if I used lazbuild I had compile just one time. Is
that you mean?
[...]
so a whole new svn install can go like
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:54:31 -0400
waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote:
On 4/5/2012 12:53, Marcos Douglas wrote:
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:32 PM, waldo kittywkitt...@windstream.net wrote:
BUT i note that your above appears to say that you started fresh with a new
empty directory...
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 12:13:35 -0300
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote:
[...]
Very nice.
I have one question:
If you use make lcl ideintf components [...] and after lazbuild
[...] you probably compiled the same sources twice (first with Make
and then using lazbuild), don't?
lazbuild checks
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Mattias Gaertner
nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 12:13:35 -0300
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote:
[...]
Very nice.
I have one question:
If you use make lcl ideintf components [...] and after lazbuild
[...] you probably compiled the
On 4/6/2012 11:44, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Thu, 05 Apr 2012 14:54:31 -0400
waldo kittywkitt...@windstream.net wrote:
an ignorant (meaning uneducated!) look at the Makefile in the lazarus root turns
up the following on line 3910...
all: lazbuild lcl ideintf components tools ide
On 4/6/2012 12:00, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 12:13:35 -0300
Marcos Douglasm...@delfire.net wrote:
[...]
Very nice.
I have one question:
If you use make lcl ideintf components [...] and after lazbuild
[...] you probably compiled the same sources twice (first with Make
and then
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:18:37 -0300
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Mattias Gaertner
nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 21:59:08 -0300
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:17 PM, waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote:
On 4/4/2012 21:18, Marcos Douglas wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
make clean all is the clean way.
It's recommended if I have an error, right?
ummm... n... please see the
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Mattias Gaertner
nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:18:37 -0300
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Mattias Gaertner
nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 21:59:08 -0300
Marcos Douglas
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net hat am 5. April 2012 um 14:04 geschrieben:
[...]
AFAIK startlazarus should end itself shortly after starting the IDE.
Maybe you were too quick, maybe your virus scanner was still scanning
startlazarus.exe.
Hmm... OK, I did not know that. I will monitor if
2012/4/5 Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de:
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net hat am 5. April 2012 um 14:04 geschrieben:
[...]
AFAIK startlazarus should end itself shortly after starting the IDE.
Maybe you were too quick, maybe your virus scanner was still scanning
On 4/5/2012 07:59, Marcos Douglas wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:17 PM, waldo kittywkitt...@windstream.net wrote:
On 4/4/2012 21:18, Marcos Douglas wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
make clean all is the clean way.
It's recommended if I have an error,
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 4:45 AM, Mattias Gaertner
nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:18:37 -0300
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote:
[cut]
It's recommended if I have an error, right?
Yes.
We use make clean all, get a default IDE and recompile again using
pcp param
On 4/5/2012 08:55, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net hat am 5. April 2012 um 14:04 geschrieben:
[...]
AFAIK startlazarus should end itself shortly after starting the IDE.
Maybe you were too quick, maybe your virus scanner was still scanning
startlazarus.exe.
On 4/5/2012 11:01, Marcos Douglas wrote:
Just for record, a long time that I didn't need to run make clean
all in Lazarus' sources.
Today I tried the technique:
1- I got the sources from SVN /branches/fixes_1_0/
2- Run make clean all
3- I opened the new lazarus.exe using PCP params
4- Build the
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:32 PM, waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote:
On 4/5/2012 11:01, Marcos Douglas wrote:
Just for record, a long time that I didn't need to run make clean
all in Lazarus' sources.
Today I tried the technique:
1- I got the sources from SVN /branches/fixes_1_0/
2-
On 4/5/2012 12:53, Marcos Douglas wrote:
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 1:32 PM, waldo kittywkitt...@windstream.net wrote:
BUT i note that your above appears to say that you started fresh with a new
empty directory... in that case you are quite correct that make clean
can't run because the files have
On 4/5/2012 14:54, waldo kitty wrote:
On 4/5/2012 12:53, Marcos Douglas wrote:
In another words, if I used lazbuild I had compile just one time. Is
that you mean?
[...]
so a whole new svn install can go like this...
1- get the sources from SVN /branches/fixes_1_0/
2- make lazbuild lcl
On 04/03/2012 03:31 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
What part of offline wiki do you want to help with?
Those that I can be sure of being included in the online help by some
automated mechanism. Here of course my theme would be Queued Mainthread
Events, Threads-communication, and friends.
On 04/04/2012 10:38 AM, Michael Schnell wrote:
On 04/03/2012 03:31 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
What part of offline wiki do you want to help with?
Those that I can be sure of being included in the online help by some
automated mechanism.
Grr. Of course I meant to write offline help.
I
On 04/03/2012 04:26 PM, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote:
Or I am missing something?
AFAIU, some parts of the online documentation can't be included in the
offline help yet. (There should be help (at least) on the topics:
Using the help system, IDE, FPC Language, RTL functions LCL
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 10:38:13 +0200
Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote:
On 04/03/2012 03:31 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
What part of offline wiki do you want to help with?
Those that I can be sure of being included in the online help by some
automated mechanism. Here of course my
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 10:40:49 +0200
Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote:
On 04/04/2012 10:38 AM, Michael Schnell wrote:
On 04/03/2012 03:31 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
What part of offline wiki do you want to help with?
Those that I can be sure of being included in the online help by
On 04/04/2012 11:02 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
All normal pages and images will be included in the offline wiki.
Does this mean that the offline Wiki is the upcoming Offline Help ?
Will it be possible to press F1 on a word and the appropriate offline
Wiki page will be displayed ? (I
I'm sorry to mix in a discussion, but I wonder, whats the point of having
an offline copy of the wiki by default?
Why not simply a OpenURL(online-wiki-url); when the user presses F1?
And in de menu help - help a simple form stating the help can only be
viewed when there is a active internet
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:09:27 +0200
Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de wrote:
On 04/04/2012 11:02 AM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
All normal pages and images will be included in the offline wiki.
Does this mean that the offline Wiki is the upcoming Offline Help ?
No. The offline wiki is just the
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 12:21:28 +0200
Rimmert Ooink laza...@ooink.net wrote:
I'm sorry to mix in a discussion, but I wonder, whats the point of having
an offline copy of the wiki by default?
Why not simply a OpenURL(online-wiki-url); when the user presses F1?
That's the current implementation.
On 04/04/2012 11:26, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
There is no 1:1 mapping between word and wiki page.
At the moment there are two searches for the offline wiki pages. Both
have their pros and cons.
There are mappings between some IDE windows and wiki though
--
Martin laza...@mfriebe.de hat am 4. April 2012 um 13:43 geschrieben:
On 04/04/2012 11:26, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
There is no 1:1 mapping between word and wiki page.
At the moment there are two searches for the offline wiki pages. Both
have their pros and cons.
There are mappings
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 3:44 PM, zel...@holobit.net wrote:
Hi all,
As I've already mentioned few weeks ago on lazdevel, today we branched 1.0
:)
branch is here:
http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/branches/fixes_1_0/
wiki with revisions which have to be merged from trunk (also there will
Op 4 april 2012 22:50 heeft Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net het
volgende geschreven:
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 3:44 PM, zel...@holobit.net wrote:
Hi all,
As I've already mentioned few weeks ago on lazdevel, today we branched 1.0
:)
branch is here:
On 4/4/2012 16:50, Marcos Douglas wrote:
I updated my Lazarus today, from SVN trunk, and everything works.
But the splash form shows the old version 0.9.31. However if I click
in HelpAbout the info is correct (version 1.1).
Lazarus 1.1 r36566 FPC 2.6.1 i386-win32-win32/win64
i'm on 36559 and
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Vincent Snijders
vincent.snijd...@gmail.com wrote:
Op 4 april 2012 22:50 heeft Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net het
volgende geschreven:
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 3:44 PM, zel...@holobit.net wrote:
Hi all,
As I've already mentioned few weeks ago on lazdevel, today
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:35 PM, waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote:
On 4/4/2012 16:50, Marcos Douglas wrote:
I updated my Lazarus today, from SVN trunk, and everything works.
But the splash form shows the old version 0.9.31. However if I click
in HelpAbout the info is correct (version
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 21:34:50 -0300
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote:
[...]
To recompile Lazarus I just use the IDE.. I thought the command Build
All recompile everything. If not, how I recompile the startlazarus?
Compile project ide/startlazarus.lpi.
Or use make clean all.
Mattias
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On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Mattias Gaertner
nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 21:34:50 -0300
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote:
[...]
To recompile Lazarus I just use the IDE.. I thought the command Build
All recompile everything. If not, how I recompile the
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 21:38:03 -0300
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote:
[...]
I can't use make all because all configuration, components, etc will gone.
No. Make does not delete/alter configurations.
In fact it does not even know where your configuration is.
That's why it can only build a
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Mattias Gaertner
nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 21:38:03 -0300
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote:
[...]
I can't use make all because all configuration, components, etc will gone.
No. Make does not delete/alter configurations.
In fact
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 21:59:08 -0300
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Mattias Gaertner
nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 21:38:03 -0300
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote:
[...]
I can't use make all because all configuration,
On 4/4/2012 20:34, Marcos Douglas wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Vincent Snijders wrote:
Did you recompile startlazarus?
To recompile Lazarus I just use the IDE.. I thought the command Build
All recompile everything. If not, how I recompile the startlazarus?
as mattias and i have
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Mattias Gaertner
nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 21:59:08 -0300
Marcos Douglas m...@delfire.net wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Mattias Gaertner
nc-gaert...@netcologne.de wrote:
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 21:38:03 -0300
Marcos Douglas
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:17 PM, waldo kitty wkitt...@windstream.net wrote:
On 4/4/2012 20:34, Marcos Douglas wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Vincent Snijders wrote:
Did you recompile startlazarus?
To recompile Lazarus I just use the IDE.. I thought the command Build
All recompile
On 4/4/2012 20:38, Marcos Douglas wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:35 PM, waldo kittywkitt...@windstream.net wrote:
i'm pretty sure you've also seen my exchanges concerning compiling from the
command line instead of svn update and then firing lazarus and compiling a
new laz from in there? if
On 4/4/2012 20:53, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
Or you can use lazbuild to build an IDE with your components in a
console.
+100~
that's what we're working on :)
when i can keep off the side trips and stick to the main task :P
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On 4/4/2012 21:18, Marcos Douglas wrote:
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:09 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
make clean all is the clean way.
It's recommended if I have an error, right?
ummm... n... please see the lazbuild build IDE profiles thread...
We use make clean all, get a default IDE and
On 04/01/2012 08:44 PM, zel...@holobit.net wrote:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_1.0_fixes_branch
http://wiki.freepascal.org/Lazarus_1.0_fixes_branch
Sorry for being a PITA, but neither one of these nor
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_0.99.0_release_notes
seems to say
Michael Schnell mschn...@lumino.de hat am 3. April 2012 um 12:03
geschrieben:
On 04/01/2012 08:44 PM, zel...@holobit.net wrote:
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_1.0_fixes_branch
http://wiki.freepascal.org/Lazarus_1.0_fixes_branch
Sorry for being a PITA, but neither one of these
2012/4/3 Mattias Gaertner nc-gaert...@netcologne.de:
Having an offline would be nice, but it is not a blocker for 1.0.
The way I understand it offline help for the RTL, FCL and LCL already
works. LHelp shows when pressing F1.
Surely there are some issues, and missing features, but that's
On 4/3/2012 16:01, Kostas Michalopoulos wrote:
In any case, 1.0 is just a number. I disagree about the PR part, currently
Lazarus is far from polished, but the world has seen worse. Delphi might had
better documentation in its first releases but it wasn't as stable for example.
agreed... plus
2012/4/1 zel...@holobit.net:
Hi all,
As I've already mentioned few weeks ago on lazdevel, today we branched 1.0
:)
branch is here:
http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/branches/fixes_1_0/
Great! :)
Is it right that on about is reported version 0.9.31?
Regards,
Kjow
--
This needs a big press release!
Carl
On 2 April 2012 04:44, zel...@holobit.net wrote:
Hi all,
As I've already mentioned few weeks ago on lazdevel, today we branched 1.0
:)
branch is here:
Am 02.04.2012 11:03, schrieb Carl Kruck:
This needs a big press release!
And release parties! :)
Michael
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On Monday 02 of April 2012 10:58:57 Kjow wrote:
2012/4/1 zel...@holobit.net:
Hi all,
As I've already mentioned few weeks ago on lazdevel, today we branched
1.0
:)
branch is here:
http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/branches/fixes_1_0/
Great! :)
Is it right that on about
zel...@holobit.net schrieb:
Hi all,
As I've already mentioned few weeks ago on lazdevel, today we branched
1.0 :)
branch is here:
http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/branches/fixes_1_0/
What's the update policy? I just updated examples/fpdocmanager, do I
have to update the new branch,
On 2-4-2012 11:13, Michael Fuchs wrote:
Am 02.04.2012 11:03, schrieb Carl Kruck:
This needs a big press release!
And release parties! :)
Yes to both thanks to Zeljko (and undoubtedly the other developers).
Very good decision to move to 1.0!
Regards,
Reinier
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2012/4/1 zel...@holobit.net:
Hi all,
As I've already mentioned few weeks ago on lazdevel, today we branched 1.0
:)
branch is here:
http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/branches/fixes_1_0/
Everytime I open lazarus.exe with --pcp parameter I get the Welcome
to Lazarus IDE windows to
On Monday 02 of April 2012 10:00:19 Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
zel...@holobit.net schrieb:
Hi all,
As I've already mentioned few weeks ago on lazdevel, today we branched
1.0 :)
branch is here:
http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/branches/fixes_1_0/
What's the update policy? I
On Monday 02 of April 2012 12:33:12 Kjow wrote:
2012/4/1 zel...@holobit.net:
Hi all,
As I've already mentioned few weeks ago on lazdevel, today we branched
1.0
:)
branch is here:
http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/branches/fixes_1_0/
Everytime I open lazarus.exe with
02.04.12 19:54, zeljko wrote:
Don't know ... you should ask Paul or Mattias about it.
I think Paul has already clearly replied before.
Best regards,
Paul Ishenin
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Paul Ishenin schrieb:
02.04.12 19:54, zeljko wrote:
Don't know ... you should ask Paul or Mattias about it.
I think Paul has already clearly replied before.
Quoting yourself?
But since nobody else replied, I assume that dragging is no more
considered a supported feature of Lazarus. A
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 05:12:47PM +0200, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
Don't know ... you should ask Paul or Mattias about it.
I think Paul has already clearly replied before.
Quoting yourself?
But since nobody else replied, I assume that dragging is no more
considered a supported
Marco van de Voort schrieb:
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 05:12:47PM +0200, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
Don't know ... you should ask Paul or Mattias about it.
I think Paul has already clearly replied before.
Quoting yourself?
But since nobody else replied, I assume that dragging is no more
Op 2 april 2012 20:18 heeft Hans-Peter Diettrich
drdiettri...@aol.com het volgende geschreven:
Marco van de Voort schrieb:
discussions suggests to me that it can and will never be made work again. If
not in an outstanding release like 1.0, when else?
Finally a question about drag-drop I can
Hello,
Just an idea for 1.0 (Hopefully sooner than later...)
One single formatting settings that are used by all code formatting
related features.
Now there are lot of settings that are basically all related into the
Code formatting (How to write and or format code)
And there should be
On Sunday 01 of April 2012 23:25:39 Bart wrote:
On 4/1/12, zel...@holobit.net zel...@holobit.net wrote:
Hi all,
As I've already mentioned few weeks ago on lazdevel, today we branched
1.0
:)
Nice indeed.
Whatever happened to 0.99, which as I understood would be the next
(and
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