Re: [LegacyUG] Find - Modified Date

[Dennis Murphy]

went looking for this and never found it

what do you mean by the "main window"???

did not find a "small box" to hover over.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 10:17 PM, Denise Moss-Fritch <
d.mossfri...@comcast.net> wrote:

> Ian,
>
>
>
> From the Help system:
>
>
>
> “Modification Date and Time
>
>
>
>  This window is reached by clicking on the *Modified Date* in the lower
> right corner of the main window.  (Click on the small box that appears when
> your mouse cursor hovers over that area.)
>
>
>
> The *Last Modified * window shows a grid displaying the date and time
> when the Husband, Wife and Marriage records were added and last modified,
> along with a field showing if the records originated from an import.
>
>
>
> On any input or edit screen, clicking *Save* updates the Modified Date
> entry even if no change has been made to the information.  To avoid this
> update if no change has been made to the information, use *Close* or
> *Cancel* to exit the window.
>
>
>
> *Note*:  If you change marriage information for a couple, the modified
> dates for the marriage and for each of the individuals is updated.”
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Ian Thomas
> *Sent:* Monday, July 31, 2017 7:07 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Find - Modified Date
>
>
>
> The facility to create a list of individuals which I have Modified
> (edited) on or after a particular date is very useful – even though I don’t
> often use Legacy FT on more than the one computer.
>
> But where can I see the Modified Date / Last edited date for a particular
> individual?
>
>
>
> Ian Thomas
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error problem, need help

[Dennis Murphy]

never thought of that - good tip!

how do you think that might fix things - curious

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 7:08 PM, J.M. "Jay" Ingalls <jay_inga...@pipeline.com
> wrote:

> Try the compact, then repair.
>
> On 7/9/2017 5:45 PM, Dennis Murphy wrote:
>
> problem doing so in the nearly 25 years I have been using Legacy until NOW!
>
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[LegacyUG] Error problem, need help

[Dennis Murphy]

I have a mater database of 75K+ from which I am trying to extract my family
line of about 54K.. I never had any problem doing so in the nearly 25 years
I have been using Legacy until NOW!

I keep getting the message "Location 18835 not found" followed by a series
of numbers in parentheses such as (1, 19846) with the latter number often
different.

The screen instructs me to run the Repair/Check program under File
Maintenance, which I keep doing to no avail and no fix. Afterwards I get
"ERROR 3021 - no current record" I then looked up the Error number in the
Legacy Help menu and followed all suggestions. Sill I get the same results.

In desperation I tried the last suggested fix, which was to export the file
as a Gedcom, but that brought me back once again to the "Location 18835 not
found." So now I'm really stumped.

Does anyone know what that means? Is it referencing a geological location
or a person's data., marriage, event. etc.??


murf


In short, any ideas how to fix this and save 30 years of work?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error problem, need help

[Dennis Murphy]

Thank you Cathy, you saved the day!

Indeed it was a missing story that caused the error and it would seem that
those numbers in parentheses are a clue to the Legacy location. (1, 18835)
The error occurs in my RIN #1 though I'm not sure about the 18835 as I do
not have that many stories in my file. But when I went to RIN #1 and tried
to open the story, I got my old familiar error message. I deleted the link
and then I was able to extract my family file from my master database with
no problems or errors.

Many Kudos Cathy 

PS: if other list members have the same situation and get errors, here's a
little tip: When you go to back up the extracted file be sure to close the
other file or you will get "Backup Error 527" Close the master or larger
file and it will go without incident.

murf

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 10:59 PM, Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dennis,
>
> Have you added any Stories?
> A couple of people on Facebook have had a similar error message doing
> different things to you and each other.
> They both tracked it to a problem with a seemingly blank Story location.
> I can't force it to happen so I'm not sure what is causing it.
>
> I can just suggest checking Stories. The error occurs as well when you try
> to open the problem Story.
> The numbers in brackets may be RIN numbers.
>
> Do let Support or me (as a Legacy Tester with an interest in this
> particular issue) know if this is the problem.
>
> Cathy
>
> George wrote:
>
>
> Dennis:
>
> Contact support. I had a problem a couple of weeks ago and could not
> open my file.  Support was able to fix it for me.
>
> George
>
> *From:*LegacyUserGroup
> [mailto:legacyusergroup-bounces@legacyusers. com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis
> Murphy
> *Sent:* July 9, 2017 7:46 PM
> *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Error problem, need help
>
> I have a mater database of 75K+ from which I am trying to extract my
> family line of about 54K.. I never had any problem doing so in the
> nearly 25 years I have been using Legacy until NOW!
>
> I keep getting the message "Location 18835 not found" followed by a
> series of numbers in parentheses such as (1, 19846) with the latter
> number often different.
>
> The screen instructs me to run the Repair/Check program under File
> Maintenance, which I keep doing to no avail and no fix. Afterwards I
> get "ERROR 3021 - no current record" I then looked up the Error number
> in the Legacy Help menu and followed all suggestions. Sill I get the
> same results.
>
> In desperation I tried the last suggested fix, which was to export the
> file as a Gedcom, but that brought me back once again to the "Location
> 18835 not found." So now I'm really stumped.
>
> Does anyone know what that means? Is it referencing a geological
> location or a person's data., marriage, event. etc.??
>
> murf
>
> In short, any ideas how to fix this and save 30 years of work?
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Locked out of Legacy

[Dennis Murphy]

There must be some sort of glitch in Legacy 9 as I have gotten the Error
3021 on several occasions while doing different tasks. Hopefully the
programmers will look into and fix the problem in the next update.

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:06 PM, Billy Mittelstadt Jr <
bmittelstad...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Did a manual merge of individual, and got message can't find individual ID
> 44475 (this was not the record numbers of either ID). And then Error
> Checking for shared events. Error 3021: No current record. When hitting
> user prompt "YES" for try again get endless loop. When hitting "NO" prompt,
> back to individual ID 44475 not found and message Run-time-error 440: No
> current record. How do I get Legacy back?
> If I do have to revert back to backup file, is there a way to restore
> sources to SourceWriter format?
>
> Thanks for your help.
> Bill
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[LegacyUG] digest mode?

[Dennis Murphy]

Does this mail list have a digest mode and, if so, sub URL please.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Hand-wring about MyHeritage and and Version 9

[Dennis Murphy]

Good point and new question: How do I permanently DELETE my file in the
Legacy cloud?

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> Subject: Hand-wring about MyHeritage and and Version 9
> I am amazed at the amount of recent anguish and hand-wringing about
> MyHeritage and Legacy. My take is that putting your info in the cloud is to
> promote sharing. You see my tree, I see your tree. It's give an take. If
> you just want to surf the web and check everyone else's data but are
> unwilling to open your site to others, then I consider you to be greedy. I
> see no reason to make your file private. If you just want to use it as a
> backup, why put it up there in the first place.? Why not keep your data on
> your desktop or if you're so paranoid, put it on 3x5 cards in a shoe box
> and put it under your bed. There is plenty of security built in if you
> would try using it instead of complaining about it.
> Same holds true on upgrading to Version 9. I used to keep my data on
> chiseled sandstone, then they invented paper and pencil, Oh Heavens, should
> I upgrade? Then they invented computer programs, with each version making
> improvements. Bite the bullet and learn to use the latest technology.
> Do you still use 5 inch floppy disks, and maybe cassette Basic?
> Flame-off
> Wayne Barner
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger

[Dennis Murphy]

I also have used Legacy for years after trying every genealogy program in
the market, as well as some that no longer exist. In my opinion the
corporate concept that "bigger id better" was born from either sheer greed
or total ignorance. My first voyage into the online data posting was with
Rootsweb, because it vowed to always "remain free." Then along comes
Ancestry and they gobble up Rootsweb, adding their databases to Ancestry
World Tree. I know this to be a fact as beginner errors in my original
Rootsweb Gedcom have transferred over to the Ancestry database.

And now along comes MyHeritage and they "merge" with Millennia, which is
likely a quaint euphemism for "buy everything you got" including and
especially their programmers..The handwriting on the wall reads "open your
wallet" as we're going *a la carte..*

I quit using Family Tree Maker due to their corporate greed in making sure
each new version was incompatible with earlier versions, thus forcing you
to buy the next upgrade. And now Jack has his thumb in Legacy's plumb pie
and I wonder how long it will take before all prices go up.

Last but not least, it was but two weeks ago that I had to vehemently
protest to MyHeritage and one of its contributors about data posted on
their site concerning my "living" relatives. They did remove it but there
is no telling how long it was there and who may or may not have downloaded
it. While many sites do remove details about living persons, they do NOT
remove their names; none of the online databases that I know do this - but
they should! As any decent genealogist and/or identity thief knows, it's
not that difficult to find all sorts of information about a person given
their parents and siblings names.

There had better be a sure-fire way to "opt out" of any automatic grabbing
of any Legacy data by MyHeritage or I will be looking for yet another
genealogy program.

Worried

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 4:05 AM, Jean Gobel  wrote:

> Shane, and Donna:   I had the same experience.  I finally managed to
> cancel my subscription, but large pieces of my family tree were extended,
> some correctly, some definitely incorrect.  I, too, have used Legacy since
> *long* before it became “Legacy”, and thru the years convinced many
> friends to become Legacy users.  I still haven’t mastered all the benefits
> available in Legacy 8, and  I have resisted upgrading to Legacy 9.  Now I
> am sure I will stay with Legacy 8 as long as it still functions on my
> computer.  I’m disappointed, but hope this works out for Millennia.
>
> Jean
>
>
> *From:* Shane Abdelnour
> *Sent:* Friday, August 04, 2017 11:22 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Merger. Like Donna, i tried my heritage
> some years age, I found someone had copied large chunks of my family tree,
> so Iimmediately
> I immediately cancelled everything and continued using Legacy. I have used
> Legacy .ever since. I refused to upgrade to version 9 ..now  I will stick
> to what i know.
>
> Shane
>
>
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 at 06:47, DonnaMR  wrote:
>
>> I do not have a MyHeritage account, but when I looked at it again after
>> the merger announcement, it seems to be a family tree website.  I searched
>> for some of my ancestors and saw errors in just the little bit they let me
>> see without an account, just as when I search the Ancestry trees.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have used Legacy just about from its beginning, through all the
>> versions.  I do not used the search features; I just want good software
>> that lets me document names and personal data, events, and sources in an
>> efficient manner, and then lets me print useful and well-formatted
>> reports.  I also use it to create webpages for my own family history
>> website.  I don’t upload family trees to sites like Ancestry and MyHeritage
>> or Genii.  I want a website that shows complete source documentation and
>> event notes that are as long as I want.   The thing I would like Legacy is
>> to allow drag and drop on the webpages instead of just source code.  I have
>> tried TNG more than once, including having them set it up, etc., and then
>> paying someone to help a bit, but I just can’t master it.  Legacy webpages
>> are easy for the reader to maneuver, and I like that uncluttered aspect.
>>
>>
>>
>> Through the years I have tried most of the other genealogy software, but
>> Legacy has fit my needs better than any.   I do genealogy research on a
>> client basis also, and I use Legacy if the project is large enough to merit
>> it.  It creates footnotes for me to paste into the narrative report I write
>> for the client, as well as printing reports when needed and creating a
>> simple family tree for the client, if the project is large enough.  I
>> create a family file and point them to the Legacy free download so they can
>> see literally all my research.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am hoping for the best.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] a Warning, and another problem with the FAG

[Dennis Murphy]

Perhaps I'm missing something as I had this happen only once so far. I
found it annoying that Legacy only lists the FAG memorial number without so
much as the Legacy RIN or at least the name(s) of the individuals involved.
This forces you to exit Legacy, go to FAG site then plug in the listed
memorial number, just to find one of locations or persons involved. The
program should list the person's name and ID with the error message, not
just the FAG number alone.

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 12:15 AM, Ian Macaulay  wrote:

> I would very much like the FAG numbers to be unique, however the current
> situation where if you have a duplicate number and run "File Maintenance"
> you get a message that says
>
> Duplicate Find a Grave IDs have been found.  You will need to re-add the
> Find a Grave ID back to the individual the ID belongs to.  You can search
> Find a Grave using the ID(s) listed below for who it should be added to.
> ==
>
> Find A Grave ID = 77730037
>
> And it wipes out both the good and the bad numbers.,  Now while the good
> is easy to recover because  they capture it and report ,   the bad is
> lost.  So in effect Legacy programmers have programed a scenario that
> looses a clients data.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Ancestor Book Report

[Dennis Murphy]

I abhor blanks as well so I always use "Unknown" when a person or date is
unknown. Since my reports are usually sent to relatives and/or other
genealogists, I advisee them to please contact me regarding any of my
unknowns for which they may have better information. Also it's nice to be
able to readily spot this missing data and create Legacy search lists for
particular unknown items before heading out to the various repositories. To
keep my Master Name index in a logical order, I have a Master Surname as
(Unknown) so that a completely unknown person appears in my database as
Unknown (Unknown) - first with no parentheses and surname with parentheses.
It may seem awkward but it works and keeps well with lists and indices.

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Ruth Mohr <2rgm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> ​  If I go back several generations I have several great (6, 7 , etc)
> grandparents  with whom I do not know the name of their spouse or I should
> say the other parent of their child.
>   When the report is created it shows for example "John Green married
> someone".  Is there a way to get rid of this statement as I do not they way
> this looks in reports.
>   I am using Legacy 9 Deluxe with the latest build.
>   Thanks in advance for any help.
> Ruth Mohr
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Grayed-out names

[Dennis Murphy]

can someone explain "nulls" to me?

I have a large database and within it is my family tree so not all are
connected to it

In the past I have simply added, linked or merged folks as needed then
exported my line into a new Legacy file.

The last time I did this and then ran a Check/Repair I got a large log and
the message "fixing all nulls" or such

>From the log it looked like it had some to do with a child and parent but
no further explanation.

Since this had never happened before in all the years of the same
procedure, I wonder what's up.

I do this nearly every month and the previous version or file was about
27,000 KB larger despite the latest file containing 186 more individuals
and their data.

I am worried something may not be right.

Can anyone explain or expound?

Dennis

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 12:33 AM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Carl,
>
> Check that the son doesn't have two sets of parents in Legacy. One pair
> may be blank/unknown.
>
> Cathy
>
> Carl Cox wrote:
>
>
> I am using the FamilySearch add-on, transferring names from FS/FT to
> my database. I am starting with a couple, and getting  their children
> onto my computer. I notice that he has parents listed on FS, so I
> transfer them over. I notice that they are greyed out when I pull up
> the Legacy/FS screen that shows them. Also when I pull the parents up
> on Legacy they show with their son, as they should. However, when I
> pull the son to the main position, no parents are shown. If I try to
> link him to his parents, the program says they are already linked - do
> I want to link them again?
>
> How do I get the grayed out connections to show?
>
> Carl
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage - not free

[Dennis Murphy]

Amen Pauline; automatic renewals should be outlawed. I guess they think we
are all too stupid to check credit card statements. Perhaps it's just
another covert method to separate folks from their money in this all too
capitalistic society. Now even the internet is a bad as TV with pop-up
commercials to BUY, BUY, BUY. Genealogy used to be an enjoyable pastime;
thank you corporate America for ruining it. Go buy another politician and
leave us alone!

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 2:38 AM, Pauline B. Cramer 
wrote:

> I was reviewing a lot of comments about MyHeritage on the Legacy User
> Group  and ran across the comment Carrie Pillow wrote mentioning "you can
> transfer your raw DNA to MyHeritage for free.  You must have an account
> with MyHeritage to do this but you can create a free account which allows
> you to have a tree up to 250 people."
>
> Sorry.  Be wary of anything "free" from MyHeritage.  My husband and I
> first did autosomal testing with 23andMe in about 2013.  They also had a
> crude tool for entering family tree history.  I detested the clunky format
> and did not enter much data on it.  Later, 23andMe informed us they were no
> longer going to support family tree data, and they had sent our DNA and
> family tree data to MyHeritage.   That was in February of 2014.  I had
> previously opened an account on WorldVitalRecords, and in February 2014,
> MyHeritage informed me that WorldVitalRecords had been merged with
> MyHeritage,  so in February 2014, MyHeritage said they had given us "a free
> empty MyHeritage account for one year, which is a gift worth $119, for
> free,  and we would have access to World Vital Records and My Heritage
> both.  The Premium Plus account will not renew automatically.  By creating
> your family tree on our site, you will automatically receive your matches
> for free. "
>
> In February 2015, email from MyHeritage thanked me for purchasing an
> annual bundle of data subscription plus PremiumPlus family site. You have
> been charged US $99.95 ...We have upgraded our existing family site Cramer
> Family Site to PremiumPlus.  I had to request a new password, because I had
> not been using it and had not recorded the password.  The next day, they
> sent another email starting with "An error occurred while renewing your
> MyHeritage Data Subscription.  It was not possible to extend your
> subscription and it expired. " They offered a MyHeritage Data subscription
> that will cots US $71.40 for one year, instead of the usual  $119.40.
> About two weeks later I requested a new password again and tried entering
> data again, but did not like the user interface.   Again in Feb 2015,  I
> requested a new password.  So I remember I put a few photos on the tree,
> but I really did not like the data entry format. That was about the last
> time I remember even looking at the MyHeritage website, until I started
> noticing funny little orange icons turning up on my  Legacy Family Tree on
> my desktop computer.
>
> Apparently my desktop computer was getting messages from MyHeritage asking
> me to verify something someone else had entered on their trees, and smart
> matches found my entries, which I found very annoying, since whenever I saw
> these messages, my mind was always focused on something else far away.  I
> have been a subscriber to Ancestry.com for many years, and I have been
> focusing on AncestryDNA and growing my trees on Ancestry.com and on my
> Legacy Family Tree file,  and looking for my 1000+ living cousins on
> AncestryDNA, and how I am connected to them, and also on FTDNA and
> 23andMe.  And I had no interest in working on the  old trees on
> MyHeritage.  And I never considered buying DNA analysis from My Heritage.
> But I noticed people on the Legacy Family Tree user group talking about My
> Heritage DNA testing.
>
> Unfortunately, a few days ago, Februrary 2018, I noticed an email from
> MyHeritage saying I was charged $250.74.  This shocked me because  I
> thought my subscription had expired.  I asked my husband to check charges.
> He had just paid it that morning.  He also found we had paid $238.80 in
> 2016, etc..  Which was another shocker.  He immediately sent an email
> cancelling the 2018 payment he had just made.  It took a couple of years to
> look at 5 years of paper trail.  We appear to have have charged over $750
> for something I did not ask for in the first place  and did not like when I
> attempted to use it.  I have been using Legacy Family Tree for over 15
> years, since 2002, but, if Legacy Family Tree is now owned by My Heritage,
> my first impulse is just to give up on genealogy.
>
> Pauline
> On 1/12/2018 1:43 AM, Carrie Pillow wrote:
>
>
> You can transfer your raw DNA to MyHeritage for free. You must have an
> account with MyHeritage to do this but you can create a free account which
> allows you to have a tree up to 250 people.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3021-Dennis Murphy

[Dennis Murphy]

I'm trying to keep this thread going as per instructions and hope I'm doing
it correctly.

Anyway, whoever sent me the fact that the first number in the parentheses
refers to the location (RIN) of the problem, I thank you as it has allowed
me to fix the export problem. Despite all the Check & Repair runs, it seems
that some of my story links have been lost somehow. After fixing the
initial problem and attempting another export to a Legacy file, the dreaded
Error 3021 popped up again with different locations (three additional times
to be exact).  When I searched for the story associated with the individual
and clicked on it, again an error message. However a double click restored
the link and now those issues seem to be fixed. I was thus able to export a
smaller Legacy file from my master database without further errors.

Not sure if this incident is attributable to my system (new Dell - Win 10)
or a glitch in the software. Sent the issue to support but no reply as yet.

Hope this helps others if they have same problem.

Dennis

On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 8:01 PM, J.M. "Jay" Ingalls <jay_inga...@pipeline.com
> wrote:

> Dennis,
>
> Try a major clean up of your locations list. Remove all "USA" from names.
> Then add it back. Then use the option to merge all of same places. Go into
> the list, sort by City, County, State, Country. Do a manual edit and merge
> of matching locations. Use the option to delete all unused locations. Do
> all the cleanup and merging of locations possible.
>
> Repeat: Remove all "USA" from names. Then add it back.
>
> Jay
>
>
> *From:*LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
> *On Behalf Of *Dennis Murphy
>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 March 2018 4:11 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Error 3021
>>>
>>> This is not the first fight with this Error Number but it's the first
>>> one on which all the Help menu suggestions fail to solve. The final resort
>>> and ultimate "import to Gedcom" has not and likely, will not, be attempted
>>> due to it's source alterations.
>>>
>>> I have run the Check & Repair multiple times, even twice in one complete
>>> Maintenance session. I have rebooted computer, tried again. Not sure if
>>> reinstalling the Legacy program will work but that may be next.
>>>
>>> The error message reads" Location 19152 not found (1009, 81) Error 3021"
>>> It pops up every time I try to export a portion of my large database to
>>> smaller Legacy family files. Running File Maintenance on the master or
>>> larger database produces no errors; it only happens on the attempted
>>> extraction of portions of the larger file - at least that's when I notice
>>> it always.
>>>
>>> My questions:
>>>
>>> Does "Location 19152" refer to a specific geographical location?
>>>
>>> How or where can it be found?
>>>
>>> Do the numbers in parentheses refer to individual ID numbers where the
>>> location is missing?
>>>
>>> I have the latest Legacy build but hope for a new update soon to see if
>>> that will fix the problem. There seems to be a lot of glitches still
>>> floating around in Version 9 as these error messages pop up quite often.
>>> Usually they can be fixed by following the suggestions but these LOCATION
>>> ones seem to be a bear on the loose. Please help: I am open to any and all
>>> suggestions
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3021-Dennis Murphy

[Dennis Murphy]

Thanks Cathy, that helped me fix the problem

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:35 AM, Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Jay,
>
> That's NOTHING to do with this error however much a location list clean up
> is a good idea.
>
> Location not found errors are almost always to do with a story location
> that has been purged with the use of List Cleanup as I've already
> explained. The RIN of the person with the story that has lost it's location
> is the first number in the brackets.
>
> Cathy
>
> J.M. "Jay" Ingalls <mailto:jay_inga...@pipeline.com>
>> Wednesday, 7 March 2018 9:01 AM
>> Dennis,
>>
>> Try a major clean up of your locations list. Remove all "USA" from names.
>> Then add it back. Then use the option to merge all of same places. Go into
>> the list, sort by City, County, State, Country. Do a manual edit and merge
>> of matching locations. Use the option to delete all unused locations. Do
>> all the cleanup and merging of locations possible.
>>
>> Repeat: Remove all "USA" from names. Then add it back.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>>
>> *From:*LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
>> *On Behalf Of *Dennis Murphy
>>
>>
>> Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea...@gmail.com>
>> Wednesday, 7 March 2018 8:08 AM
>> Ian,
>> I've answered on the other thread. The crucial error is the Location not
>> found error.
>>
>> I've given up on expecting people on this list to use proper list
>> etiquette and start a new email for a new topic. It's not a lot of point
>> just changing the subject line. The emails are still threaded with the
>> original.
>>
>> However some email providers seem to break the thread even with normal
>> responses .
>> Note this new one has already been highjacked by Leo talking about
>> something else.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>>
>> Ian Thomas <mailto:il.tho...@outlook.com>
>> Wednesday, 7 March 2018 5:40 AM
>>
>> Dennis – I’ve re-titled your last post so that others can use the subject
>> – perhaps to give you some help on your problem.
>>
>> (those interested in Peter Astle’s quite different problem may be a
>> little confused)
>>
>> I wonder if your problems are due to the size of your database, including
>> images etc?
>>
>> Perhaps Cathy Pinner can recall if other users of Legacy have had as much
>> data as you, without having this error?
>>
>> Regards, Ian  Thomas
>>
>> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>>
>> *From:*LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
>> *On Behalf Of *Dennis Murphy
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 March 2018 4:11 AM
>> *To:* Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Living/Deceased Status of Mothers with children
>> where no Father details are entered
>>
>> Error 3021
>>
>> This is not the first fight with this Error Number but it's the first one
>> on which all the Help menu suggestions fail to solve. The final resort and
>> ultimate "import to Gedcom" has not and likely, will not, be attempted due
>> to it's source alterations.
>>
>> I have run the Check & Repair multiple times, even twice in one complete
>> Maintenance session. I have rebooted computer, tried again. Not sure if
>> reinstalling the Legacy program will work but that may be next.
>>
>> The error message reads" Location 19152 not found (1009, 81) Error 3021"
>> It pops up every time I try to export a portion of my large database to
>> smaller Legacy family files. Running File Maintenance on the master or
>> larger database produces no errors; it only happens on the attempted
>> extraction of portions of the larger file - at least that's when I notice
>> it always.
>>
>> My questions:
>>
>> Does "Location 19152" refer to a specific geographical location?
>>
>> How or where can it be found?
>>
>> Do the numbers in parentheses refer to individual ID numbers where the
>> location is missing?
>>
>> I have the latest Legacy build but hope for a new update soon to see if
>> that will fix the problem. There seems to be a lot of glitches still
>> floating around in Version 9 as these error messages pop up quite often.
>> Usually they can be fixed by following the suggestions but these LOCATION
>> ones seem to be a bear on the loose. Please help: I am open to any and all
>> suggestions
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 1:24 AM, Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com > genea...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Living/Deceased Status of Mothers with children where no Father details are entered

[Dennis Murphy]

Error 3021

This is not the first fight with this Error Number but it's the first one
on which all the Help menu suggestions fail to solve. The final resort and
ultimate "import to Gedcom" has not and likely, will not, be attempted due
to it's source alterations.

I have run the Check & Repair multiple times, even twice in one complete
Maintenance session. I have rebooted computer, tried again. Not sure if
reinstalling the Legacy program will work but that may be next.

The error message reads" Location 19152 not found (1009, 81) Error 3021" It
pops up every time I try to export a portion of my large database to
smaller Legacy family files. Running File Maintenance on the master or
larger database produces no errors; it only happens on the attempted
extraction of portions of the larger file - at least that's when I notice
it always.

My questions:
Does "Location 19152" refer to a specific geographical location?
How or where can it be found?
Do the numbers in parentheses refer to individual ID numbers where the
location is missing?

I have the latest Legacy build but hope for a new update soon to see if
that will fix the problem. There seems to be a lot of glitches still
floating around in Version 9 as these error messages pop up quite often.
Usually they can be fixed by following the suggestions but these LOCATION
ones seem to be a bear on the loose. Please help: I am open to any and all
suggestions


On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 1:24 AM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Peter,
>
> I've been doing some testing on this and you appear to be right.
>
> I can't see it entered as a bug so I've entered it (I'm a beta tester) and
> noted you as the reporter.
>
> They're not options I've used for a long time. I don't make Gedcoms often
> and lately just for DNA purposes so everyone except me in it is deceased
> and I've mostly just edited out my details.
>
> Cathy
>
> Peter Astle via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>
>> This is my first message to the user group - so apologies if this query
>> has been aired before.
>>
>> In my database I have a number of females who were living in the mid-late
>> 1800's, and their living status is set to NO.
>>
>> In the process of exporting the family file via a Gedcom to view on a
>> website, I used the privacy options within Legacy to suppress the details
>> of living individuals as follows:-
>>
>> /Suppress details for deceased spouses of living individuals, change name
>> to deceased./
>> /
>> /
>> /and/
>> /
>> /
>> /Suppress details for deceased children of living individuals, change
>> name to deceased./
>>
>> After uploading the Gedcom to the website I reviewed the family file
>> details that were displayed and I was surprised to see the following
>> pattern.
>>
>> In most cases, the names and other details of females who were born in
>> the 1800s and whose living status is NO would be displayed as normal.
>>
>> However, if the female had a child, but the relevant father details had
>> not been entered,  the mother appears as "Deceased" and her actual name and
>> other details are suppressed.
>>
>> The name and details of her /"illegitimate"/ child are not suppressed
>> however and appear in full.
>>
>> It looks rather odd to have an individual's details suppressed and their
>> name  replaced by "deceased" when they died well before 1900. It appears
>> that Legacy has made this decision for me - as the mothers concerned are
>> not the spouses of a living individual as under the suppressing option I
>> selected above.
>>
>> I can understand the need to protect the privacy of people where
>> apparent  and actual illegitimacy is concerned, but if that is the
>> intention/design of Legacy, should the child's name and details be
>> suppressed too?
>>
>> I realise as a relatively new user of Legacy I may have misunderstood, or
>> overlooked a setting option or a work around for this, so I'd be grateful
>> for views/advice.
>>
>> I was considering entering some details for the "unknown" fathers,
>> perhaps that would solve the issue, but I don't think entering people as
>> name "unknown" is good practice - is it??
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Peter
>>
>
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[LegacyUG] My problem

[Dennis Murphy]

Several decades ago, when my genealogy journey began, I was using Family
Tree Maker. After experimenting with Legacy, I was hooked and became a
convert. Back then the only way to bring your data into Legacy was to
create a Gedcom and import the same. As we know, the Gedcom format has its
own set of issues. The problem is as follows:

The process left me with lots of items unceremoniously dropped into the
Locations field of Legacy. Case in point for this email; I have had 570
social security numbers resting as "locations" in individual Events
sections. For some time now I have vowed to fix the matter once and for
all. Unless I am missing something (and I do so often) the only way I see
to delete them is by the painfully slow and tedious method of opening the
Events sections of each person, one at a time, doing the edit there, then
moving on to the next item. And so I ask the list: Does anyone know a
faster or easier method?

BTW all of the SSN are available in my Notes sections so there is no need
to save them in any way elsewhere; I just need some sort of batch delete
without losing all other "good" locations. Is that even possible or am I
forced into the previously mentioned "hard labor?"

Any and all help appreciated.

Dennis
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Re: [LegacyUG] Programmers?

[Dennis Murphy]

it will likely go further downhill now that MyHeritage has it's thumb in
the pie

On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:03 PM  wrote:

> I wholeheartedly agree and have had the same experience with Legacy as
> you.  And thank you for your service!
>
>
>
> Donald Quigley
>
> Safety Harbor, FL
>
> Quigley Doyle Family Tree 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup  *On
> Behalf Of *Gene Hutson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:29 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Programmers?
>
>
>
> Well not really speaking for anyone other than myself, but having used this
>
> product for what seems like eons and seen first-hand where it has come
>
> from and where it appears to be going, (I, We, They) don’t like what I’m
> seeing.
>
>
>
> As far as my language, I’m a retired combat Marine, I tend not to
> pussyfoot around
>
> and head straight for the heart of the matter. If I hurt someone’s
> feelings, which
>
> also seems to be the norm these days, then so be it, get a tougher skin.
>
>
>
> Hoping to see some improvements.
>
>
>
> Gene
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Tim Rosenlof 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 18, 2018 11:45 AM
> *To: *legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> *Subject: *Re: [LegacyUG] Programmers?
>
>
>
> Post to myself :P
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:06 AM Tim Rosenlof  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 7:11 AM Gene Hutson 
> wrote:
>
> It’s not that simple, they set the precedent by being timely and efficient,
>
> this is a product *we* bought and paid for, they advertise continuous
> updates
>
> and new features to keep it fresh and up to date. We are not just *whining
> *to
>
> *whine*, *we* are being let down and they need to know that *we* as
> customers
>
> will hold them to their own desired standards.
>
>
>
> *Most of us* love the program, *we* just need some genuine customer
> service,
>
> which sadly, seems to be a thing of the past, *we* want results, not lip
> service.
>
>
>
> 1. Don't classify Me as "*Most *of us or *We*. look above
>
> 2. How do know how many users on this list ?
>
> 3. Complain to support@legayfamilytree
>
> 4. A few words in your are offensive. Go back and read the User Guidelines
>
> 5. Move on
>
>
>
> Somewhere in that list should be that I have been using Legacy since v3.
> So I must like it ? Yes.
>
> I bothers me to have someone speak for me.
>
>
>
> Tim Rosenlof
>
> Former employee of Millennia (Legacy)
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Looking for Ideas for Event Name - Before Marriage

[Dennis Murphy]

Presently I have 14 user defined events pertaining to Marriage such as
Marriage Bans, Marriage License, Marriage Certificate, Marriage Official,
etc. I try to set up Events that have documents or images associated with
them as event photos/images print with various books and reports.

In the case of your marriage ring, proposal, engagement, etc., there are
several possibilities that come to mind. In older times, engagement photos
were quite common but finding them among family heirlooms may not happen.
Into more modern time, newspapers often published engagement notices with
photos.

>From your post I get the impression that there might be some interesting
story or facts surrounding the marriage ring and/or proposal in question.
If so, I would create an event called Marriage Proposal, write the full
story in MS Word (or your favorite word processor), then attach the
document to the Marriage Proposal event. You could add images to the
document or simply attached the separately in the event.

Just a suggestion

D.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 5:06 PM s megraw  wrote:

> I would like to set up an event for to cover dates when a couple met, he
> proposed, he presented the engagemet ring and  the couple announced their
> engagement. Looking for suggestions for a suitable "Event Name" I can use.
>
> Stan
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