Re: [LegacyUG] Cemeteries

[Susie Zada]

Hi Jean,

Cathy gave you a good link to achieve what you're trying to do.

Hopefully you've entered cemeteries using one of those methods.

If not, explain to us how you've entered the cemeteries.

It can also be a good opportunity to tidy up your entries for cemeteries.

Hope that helps.

Regards ... Susie Z

September 16, 2018 5:50 PM, "Jean Gobel"  wrote:

> Susie Zada, that is exactly I mean. I have like fifty people buried on one 
> cemetery. I would like a list of them.
> 
> -Original Message----- 
> From: Susie Zada
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 9:11 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Cemeteries
> 
> Hi Jean,
> 
> Do you mean the people in your Legacy database buried in a particular 
> cemetery?
> 
> Regards ... Susie Z
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Re: [LegacyUG] Cemeteries

[Susie Zada]

Hi Jean,

Do you mean the people in your Legacy database buried in a particular cemetery?

Regards ... Susie Z

September 16, 2018 12:36 PM, "Jean Gobel"  wrote:

> How can I get list list of everyone buried in a particular cemetery?
> Jean Gobel
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Re: [LegacyUG] Web pages - fonts

[Susie Zada]

I am using the latest version of Legacy and still use LTools for the web / css 
option - works fine. Obviously I always make sure I have a backup before using 
it and I don't use it for other options, but definitely OK with this one.

Regards ... Susie Z

June 26, 2018 1:54 AM, "Gordon Small"  wrote:
I've not seen any comments on this forum about LTools in a long time and don't 
know if it works with Legacy 9 but it looks like it can still be downloaded at 
http://www.zippersoftware.com/wp/ltools/download-ltools 
(http://www.zippersoftware.com/wp/ltools/download-ltools)  
(if you care to try it) 
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[LegacyUG] Sometimes Mailing Lists remind me of Chinese Whispers

[Susie Zada]

Do you remember back when we used to play Chinese Whispers?

If not, some of the messages on this Mailing List remind me of Chinese Whispers 
:-)

Next time you send a messsage on a Mailing List, smile while you're typing it - 
makes a BIG difference.

Kind regards ... a smiling Susie
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mailing List please unscribe me from mailing list

[Susie Zada]

Hello Alan,

It's Susie, not Suzie :-)

I was not the person who wanted to unsubscribe - I was replying to the VERY 
rude person who had a got at the person who said they unsubscribed some time 
ago and were getting even more emails - I interpreted their message to indicate 
that their unsub hadn't worked! There was also another person wanting to unsub.

I DON'T want to unsub!

Regards ... Susie Zada

March 8, 2018 1:03 PM, "Alan Torrance"  wrote:
Hello Suzie, 

Your mail caught my eye. Please have a look at the bottom of this and 
other emails. There is a link (very plain it is too) for managing and 
unsubscribing. 

Alan. 
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
(mailto:mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com)] On Behalf Of Susie Zada
Sent: Thursday, 8 March 2018 2:49 p.m.
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Good grief – is there any need to be so rude and inconsiderate! 

There should be a link and instructions at the bottom of the email – 
have another try. If you still have problems I’m sure the administrator of this 
mailing list will help. 

All the best … Susie Z 
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Sent: Thursday, 8 March 2018 12:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mailing List please unscribe me from mailing list 
Then do it again DUMMY 1 
AJM 
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I unsubscribed a while back and now I get more emails than I ever did 
before. 
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You subscribed Judith, so you need to unsubscribe yourself also. 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mailing List please unscribe me from mailing list

[Susie Zada]

Good grief – is there any need to be so rude and inconsiderate!

 

There should be a link and instructions at the bottom of the email – have 
another try.  If you still have problems I’m sure the administrator of this 
mailing list will help.

 

All the best … Susie Z

 

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Sent: Thursday, 8 March 2018 12:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mailing List please unscribe me from mailing list

 

Then do it again DUMMY 1

 

AJM

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mailing List please unscribe me from mailing list

 

I unsubscribed a while back and now I get more emails than I ever did before.

 

From: Michele Morrison 

Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 6:28 PM

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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mailing List please unscribe me from mailing list

 

You subscribed Judith, so you need to unsubscribe yourself also.

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage - not free

[Susie Zada]

I find it interesting that the majority of complaints are directed towards 
MyHeritage and not Ancestry, FindMyPast etc. who all use the same business 
practices and who also share information we provide to them (i.e. our own 
family trees).

Well I for one WANT them to share my information - that's how I have made 
contact with other researchers. As a resident of Australia, I get a tad snitchy 
with the US-Centric sites that are pretty much useless for the majority of 
Australian research.

BUT I have had huge success with my German records on MyHeritage, and also the 
huge number of smaller country newspapers (NSW, Australia) - these smaller 
local newspapers have wonderful information on local people that is not 
available through other resouces (TROVE / National Library Australia). I've 
lost count of the number of personal articles I have for my family thanks to 
MyHeritage. If you don't want to expand your own family history research, then 
don't subscribe to ANY of the major subscription sites then you won't have 
anything to complain about.

Oh - apart from the records and newspaper articles I have found on MyHeritage I 
have had some terrific DNA matches on MyHeritage - moreso than the other 
companies! One great thing with DNA Matches - you know the other people at 
least have some interest in family history if they've bothered to pay for DNA 
tests!

I won't apologise for being a fan of MyHeritage - and as all the major subs 
companies do the same, I don't get caught out paying for something I don't want 
- I read the fine print!

Regards ... Susie Z

February 17, 2018 8:30 AM, "Susan Pitcher"  wrote:
 I may sound a little unreasonable because if not for my heritage etc, doing a 
family tree would be much more difficult, however it really annoys me that we, 
the members are actually providing the info which allows them to continue 
running their business and for that they charge us very high fees! 
On 16 Feb. 2018 11:31 pm, "tamaram1"  wrote:
Thank you for the information, I will be very careful with my dealing with 
MyHeritage. I am a long time user of ancestry.com (http://ancestry.com), family 
search.com (http://search.com), and findagrave.com (http://findagrave.com), 
coming from rootsweb long ago. I have noticed a few times MyHeritage has sent 
things for me to fill in on my lineage on their site, I have answered yes, this 
is my family but I knew the records were indeed mine from other sites, I will 
be very careful to watch and make sure they are not charging me for my own 
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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage - not free

[Susie Zada]

Hi Pauline,

You're talking about two totally different things - subscription to MyHeritage 
data etc. and FREE to upload DNA data from other companies if you're not a 
subscriber.

It sounds like you were using MyHeritage Online to add to your tree and haven't 
been using the MyHeritage Family Tree Builder which is the FREE genealogy 
program you can run on your desktop and sync to your online tree if you have 
one there.

So people recently talking about FREE MyHeritage are all referring to uploading 
their Ancestry DNA and FTDNA results to MyHeritage.- particularly since 
MyHeritage have upgraded their algorithms and people are getting heaps more 
accurate matches than previously! I can personally vouch for that with some 
excellent matches in the last few weeks.

Hope that explanation helps.

Regards ... Susie Z

February 16, 2018 6:39 PM, "Pauline B. Cramer"  wrote:
I was reviewing a lot of comments about MyHeritage on the Legacy User 
Group and ran across the comment Carrie Pillow wrote mentioning "you can 
transfer your raw DNA to MyHeritage for free. You must have an account with 
MyHeritage to do this but you can create a free account which allows you to 
have a tree up to 250 people." 

Sorry. Be wary of anything "free" from MyHeritage. My husband and I 
first did autosomal testing with 23andMe in about 2013. They also had a crude 
tool for entering family tree history. I detested the clunky format and did not 
enter much data on it. Later, 23andMe informed us they were no longer going to 
support family tree data, and they had sent our DNA and family tree data to 
MyHeritage. That was in February of 2014. I had previously opened an account on 
WorldVitalRecords, and in February 2014, MyHeritage informed me that 
WorldVitalRecords had been merged with MyHeritage, so in February 2014, 
MyHeritage said they had given us "a free empty MyHeritage account for one 
year, which is a gift worth $119, for free, and we would have access to World 
Vital Records and My Heritage both. The Premium Plus account will not renew 
automatically. By creating your family tree on our site, you will automatically 
receive your matches for free. " 

In February 2015, email from MyHeritage thanked me for purchasing an 
annual bundle of data subscription plus PremiumPlus family site. You have been 
charged US $99.95 ...We have upgraded our existing family site Cramer Family 
Site to PremiumPlus. I had to request a new password, because I had not been 
using it and had not recorded the password. The next day, they sent another 
email starting with "An error occurred while renewing your MyHeritage Data 
Subscription. It was not possible to extend your subscription and it expired. " 
They offered a MyHeritage Data subscription that will cots US $71.40 for one 
year, instead of the usual $119.40. About two weeks later I requested a new 
password again and tried entering data again, but did not like the user 
interface. Again in Feb 2015, I requested a new password. So I remember I put a 
few photos on the tree, but I really did not like the data entry format. That 
was about the last time I remember even looking at the MyHeritage website, 
until I started noticing funny little orange icons turning up on my Legacy 
Family Tree on my desktop computer. 

Apparently my desktop computer was getting messages from MyHeritage 
asking me to verify something someone else had entered on their trees, and 
smart matches found my entries, which I found very annoying, since whenever I 
saw these messages, my mind was always focused on something else far away. I 
have been a subscriber to Ancestry.com for many years, and I have been focusing 
on AncestryDNA and growing my trees on Ancestry.com and on my Legacy Family 
Tree file, and looking for my 1000+ living cousins on AncestryDNA, and how I am 
connected to them, and also on FTDNA and 23andMe. And I had no interest in 
working on the old trees on MyHeritage. And I never considered buying DNA 
analysis from My Heritage. But I noticed people on the Legacy Family Tree user 
group talking about My Heritage DNA testing. 

Unfortunately, a few days ago, Februrary 2018, I noticed an email from 
MyHeritage saying I was charged $250.74. This shocked me because I thought my 
subscription had expired. I asked my husband to check charges. He had just paid 
it that morning. He also found we had paid $238.80 in 2016, etc.. Which was 
another shocker. He immediately sent an email cancelling the 2018 payment he 
had just made. It took a couple of years to look at 5 years of paper trail. We 
appear to have have charged over $750 for something I did not ask for in the 
first place and did not like when I attempted to use it. I have been using 
Legacy Family Tree for over 15 years, since 2002, but, if Legacy Family Tree is 
now owned by My Heritage, my first impulse is just to give up on genealogy. 

Pauline 
On 1/12/2018 1:43 AM, Carrie Pillow wrote: 
You 

Re: [LegacyUG] identify template already created

[Susie Zada]

And if you do it again with the left hand border of that column it uncovers
another one!

 

Regards . Susie Z

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of John S. Adams
Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2017 12:27 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] identify template already created

 

Thanks, Susie. I thought that just changed the column width, but it appears
to uncover a hidden column.

 

Sent from Mail   for Windows
10

 

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From: LegacyUserGroup  > on behalf of
sz...@zades.com.au    >
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 4:56:06 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] identify template already created 

 

Hi John,

Go up to the title / header and just hover your mouse near the left hand
margin of the SOURCE LIST NAME header - you'll see "half" a cross hair - a
vertical line with an arrow to the right. When you see that, click and hold
your mouse and drag to the right.

Hope that helps ... Susie Z

November 29, 2017 11:36 AM, "John S. Adams"  > wrote:

What am I missing? I don't get a "cross hair" symbol when I click left of
"Source List Name"; or right, on, or around it. I have ver. 9.0.0.198.

Sent from Mail   for Windows
10


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From: LegacyUserGroup  > on behalf of Monique
Riley  >
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 12:33:16 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] identify template already created 

Go into the Master Source list and click on the top left of the title
"Source List Name" and drag the cross hairs that appear to the right. A
column will appear of the template number (if created with Source Writer) or
it will show Basic if the source was created under basic.

Monique A. Riley, AGR


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From: LegacyUserGroup  > on behalf of BARTON LEWIS
 >
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 1:24 PM
To: Legacy
Subject: [LegacyUG] identify template already created 

Is there a way to know what Legacy template you have created a source
based on using SourceWriter? I seem to recall there is but can't find
it poking around while in/on the source.


Thanks,


Barton

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 - date change after latest update

[Susie Zada]

Hi Folks,

As many of my BDM references are in New South Wales or Victoria in
Australia, unless I have purchased the certificate or have other reliable
references I am restricted to the indexes.  For those states, only a year of
registration is given.  Unless you are able to interpret the registration
numbers with absolute certainty it is possible that the person was born in
the year before registration (i.e. late December).

ABOUT / Abt
For those situations from the BDM indexes, I use About / Abt because it is
confirmed and generally within one year of the registration.  (a bit like
the English quarters - registered at the beginning of a quarter but born the
previous quarter which could be the previous year for the first quarter).

CALCULATED / Calc
For years of birth based on age at marriage, death or age on other siblings'
birth certificates, or other reliable sources, I use calculations and as we
all know they can vary greatly.  e.g. if it's an age on emigration /
passenger lists, the person / family may have applied one or more years
before the event.

ESTIMATED / Est
Where there are NO reference years I will do an estimate based on 25 +/-
years and take into account the birth of the siblings - e.g. is this the
first child, seventh child etc.  Based on this I would ESTIMATE that the
parents were born 25 +/- years before the birth of the first child to give
at least one reference point.

PUBLISHING
When I have 'published' a printed family history for family members (updated
every couple of years) I include my decision of using Abt / Calc / Est in
the introduction to make it clear to all.  I'm now looking at including that
somewhere on my family trees on the web.

WARNING
If you have an Est date - i.e. Born: Est 1828 - if anyone copies your data
and puts it on Ancestry, that conglomerate gets VERY 'Helpful' by hinting
that the person in question was born in ESTONIA!  And before you know it,
your direct gg-grandfather came from Estonia ... grrr

Regards ... Susie Z

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brian Kelly
Sent: Friday, 29 September 2017 7:13 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 - date change after latest update

I suppose I could call those calculated dates but since I only use a year in
those kind of calculations I prefer about 1834 instead of Calc 1834. I
reserve Calc for dates when I can figure out the day month and year.

Brian Kelly



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Re: [LegacyUG] Comparing commercial websites

[Susie Zada]

McAfee is well known for 'exaggerating' - nothing wrong with the link / site
for the handout.

 

It's well worth getting over your aversion for videos to watch this one - I
hate videos as well but this was worth it.  Watch it on your desktop if you
can to appreciate it fully - otherwise why not watch it at your local
library - a much UNDER utilised resource.

 

Regards . Susie Z

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: Thursday, 7 September 2017 12:02 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Comparing commercial websites

 

I do so hate videos and MUCH prefer the written word, but unfortunately, the
site for the handout is a "dangerous site" according to McAfee!

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Comparing commercial websites

[Susie Zada]

Hi Gordon,

 

Thank you SO much for those links – EVERYONE who has been asking the ‘same old’ 
questions re which is best should do themselves a favour and watch this video 
and download the handout.

 

THANK YOU … Susie Z

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Gordon Findlay
Sent: Thursday, 7 September 2017 9:05 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Comparing commercial websites

 

While considering whether My Heitage is "worth it" and wondering about other 
sites, you might find this presentation from Sunny Morton useful:


https://www.rootstech.org/videos/sunny-morton

 

If you like watching hour-long videos as much as I do, you might just look to 
the handout, which I found in many places, such as

 

 
http://victoriafhc.org/~geneologyvictori/pdf/2017Big4-Comparing_Ancestry,FamilySearch,Findmypast
 

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage 50% off offer question

[Susie Zada]

But if you have the free My Heritage database on your desktop and keep that 
synced then it really doesn’t matter if your data is deleted online because you 
always have it in your possession.  And if you are uploading your DNA results 
from elsewhere presumably you have them located ‘elsewhere’ as well as having 
them on your desktop.

 

Regards … Susie Z

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Hogrooter .
Sent: Monday, 4 September 2017 9:18 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] MyHeritage 50% off offer question

 

One caution:  I read recently that all your data stored at MyHeritage is 
deleted if you cancel your subscription.  I suggest you confirm or deny this 
before you cancel an existing subscription to take advantage of the new offer.  

Dean Adams

 

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[LegacyUG] Fake news and vitriol

[Susie Zada]

Hi Folks,

I suggest that everyone take a big deep breath and read the facts and not
fly off at ignorant statements.

It is very sad to see some of the mis-information followed by unwarranted
attacks on both MyHeritage and LegacyFamilyTree / Millennium.  I am a very
happy user of both and yes they all have their faults but firstly you can't
blame either for incorrect data on the trees on their sites.  You should be
aiming your anger at the poor research done by some people - but hey, is
there ANYONE who hasn't made a mistake on their tree on this list?  BE
HONEST!

READ exactly how the hints and matching work - NO-ONE has stolen your data.

And I know this statement might upset a lot of people but this IS a fact - I
joined MyHeritage and have had some wonderful assistance with their various
matches and suggestions because there are so many non-Americans involved -
in other words it's not USA-centric!  And don't start arguing about that or
denying that as an issue - go back and look at how many messages comment on
the LFT location 'rules' don't fit the rest of the world.

I love Legacy and still use it.

I love My Heritage and definitely use it.  I have made more progress with
hints in recent times from My Heritage than any other research I've done.

A very happy customer of both!

Regards ... Susie Zada
Geelong, Victoria, Australia with ancestors in Australia, Germany, France,
Italy, Prussia, England and Ireland - with just a couple of family detouring
via the USA


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Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

[Susie Zada]

Your Legacy files are protected by not uploading them to the web!

Millenium don’t have your data, neither do Ancestry, Findmypast, Family Search, 
or MyHeritage UNLESS you have given it to them!

If you decide to upload your data, learn how to protect it FIRST not AFTER 
you’ve uploaded it!

Regards … Susie Z

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Behalf Of Douglas Tighe
Sent: Sunday, 6 August 2017 12:12 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Concerns about MyHeritage

Hi all,

Can anyone with the knowledge advise us all how to protect our Legacy files 
from now on please. 

Cheers
Doug Tighe in marvellous Queensland





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Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

[Susie Zada]

In this 'recent' discussion about graphics, Gene is the first to point out
the issue of bandwidth and/or download limits.

People need to remember that Legacy is an international product AND there
are users all around the world - many don't have access to unlimited
reasonably access!  And I'm speaking from experience here - living in
country Victoria in Australia.

Think of others.

No-one would dispute the value of images when explaining things but I would
dispute the value of open-slather on this list.  If you want why not put
your images on the Legacy Facebook page and include a link to, but don't
exclude the rest of the users from this list!

Regards ... Susie Z

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Young
Sent: Tuesday, 9 May 2017 6:09 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Graphics being posted to the list

On 5/8/2017 1:51 PM, Ed Ladendorf wrote:
> It seems that there are people who would like to have the ability to add
embedded images to posts, and possibly some who are against that (although
that might not be the case). Since the membership of the list is not what it
once was, maybe the ones who make the rules would be open to putting it to a
vote of the remaining members??


Is it possible to get a virus from an embedded image? I don't know the
answer to that, but I know a lot of forums allow that, so I doubt it's a
problem. Who would like to have a vote? If that's acceptable, count me in
for allowing it. If not, I'll abide by the rules.

embedded images are sent with the email as attachments, so yes, they can
easily send viruses.  Some people have limited bandwidth due to various
reasons; financial, locality & availability of cable service.  It is not
fair to hammer their limited access.  It is a simple matter to post your
image to a reputable hosting site and post the link.  Every body benefits
and no one suffers.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report - mixture of Abt and Circ

[Susie Zada]

Hi Cathy,

 

I really do appreciate the effort you’ve put in.  I might sent it to support – 
perhaps it’s a known issue.

 

Regards … Susie Z

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2017 6:14 PM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report - mixture of Abt and Circ

 

Susie,

I can't help you more.

If you really have gone back to Options - Customise 5.7 and changed the display 
for Circa to Circa or similar and NOT About/Abt and saved out of 
Options-Customise and then done a File - File Maintenance - Check/Repair
and then still you have only Abt on the screen but differences in reports,
contact Support.

Cathy

Susie Zada wrote:




Hi Cathy,

I understand what you are saying but I have two people who have Abt 
 for both birth and death for both of them.

When I do a Family Group Sheet for HIS parents, so these two people 
appear as son and daughter-in-law – and his dates show as Abt  for 
birth and death – this is correct.  Her dates show as (Cir -Cir )

When I do a Family Group Sheet for these two people, HIS parents (entered as 
Abt) both appear as (Cir  – Cir ).  HER parents 
both show as (-) which is correct as there are no dates and no 
Abt etc entered.

So something else is happening in there.

Regards … Susie Z

*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[ <mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> 
mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Cathy 
Pinner
*Sent:* Thursday, 26 January 2017 5:38 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group < <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report - mixture of Abt and Circ

Susie,

You said that you changed the Display of Circa to About.

So they're not all About. Some are recorded as Circa.
The bracketed dates in reports are not taking notice of what you've 
entered for the Display but of the base date prefix.

So to get cir in reports you do have some dates entered from the Circa.
That's why I said to change the disp lay of this at 5.7 to find them 
and then change them to Abt - the real About - via Search and Replace 
or one by one

Is that clearer?

Cathy

Susie Zada wrote:


Hi Cathy,

Thanks for the suggestions – unfortunately it’s not a case of change
any Circa etc dates to Abt because they’re all Abt anyway.

The exactly same dates – Abt birth and Abt death appear differently
depending on whether the couple are the son and daughter -in-law and
the exactly same couple are shown as Husband and Wife in the Family
Group Report! I’ve eliminated all the various versions for the dates
and prefixes which is why I wondered if I’d found a bug or missed a
setting!

Regards … Susie Z

   ;  *From:*LegacyUserGroup
[ <mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> 
mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Cathy
Pinner
*Sent:* Thursday, 26 January 2017 3:18 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group < <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com%0b   
%20%3cmailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report - mixture of Abt and
Circ

Susie,

The display option in 5.7 has some relationship to what is used in
Reports but it isn't exact, especially in the bracketed dates.

I suggest you change the display for Circa back to Circa or something
and then find those dates and change them to Abt if that's what
you want.

You can use Search - Search and Re place on various Date fields to
mak e
this a fast process. Just make sure you're only replacing the found
    text and not the whole field.

Cathy

Susie Zada wrote:


Hi Folks,

Is this a bug or have I missed a setting somewhere for Date
Prefixes - I
have this set in Customise 5.7 - Prefixes

If I type About / Abt / A it is to display as Abt
If I type Circa / Cir / C it is to display as Abt

In the Family Group Sheet - this prefix displays correctly UNLESS
it is in
bracket s which are automatically used for date ranges for Father,
Mother and
Spouse.

Example - Son James has Born Abt 1856, Died Abt 1905 BUT Spouse
Elizabeth
(Cir 1859 - Cir 1909)

If I look at the son and daughter-in-law they both display dates
with Abt
and not Circ

If I change the family to be the son and daughter-in-law as the
main people,
both Husband and Wife appear with the correct prefixes of Abt for
both born
and died BUT their parents Father and Mother have dates in
brackets showing
(Circ 1834 - Cr 1905)

In Australia when getting BDM Registrations from the indexes I
always use
Abt unless I have actual dates. This is because a birth cou

Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report - mixture of Abt and Circ

[Susie Zada]

Hi Cathy,

 

I understand what you are saying but I have two people who have Abt  for 
both birth and death for both of them.

 

When I do a Family Group Sheet for HIS parents, so these two people appear as 
son and daughter-in-law – and his dates show as Abt  for birth and death – 
this is correct.  Her dates show as (Cir -Cir )

 

When I do a Family Group Sheet for these two people, HIS parents (entered as 
Abt) both appear as (Cir  – Cir ).  HER parents both show as (-
) which is correct as there are no dates and no Abt etc entered.

 

So something else is happening in there.

 

Regards … Susie Z

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2017 5:38 PM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report - mixture of Abt and Circ

 

Susie,

You said that you changed the Display of Circa to About.

So they're not all About. Some are recorded as Circa.
The bracketed dates in reports are not taking notice of what you've entered for 
the Display but of the base date prefix.

So to get cir in reports you do have some dates entered from the Circa. 
That's why I said to change the display of this at 5.7 to find them and then 
change them to Abt - the real About - via Search and Replace or one by one

Is that clearer?

Cathy

Susie Zada wrote:




Hi Cathy,

Thanks for the suggestions – unfortunately it’s not a case of change 
any Circa etc dates to Abt because they’re all Abt anyway.

The exactly same dates – Abt birth and Abt death appear differently 
depending on whether the couple are the son and daughter -in-law and 
the exactly same couple are shown as Husband and Wife in the Family 
Group Report!  I’ve eliminated all the various versions for the dates 
and prefixes which is why I wondered if I’d found a bug or missed a 
setting!

Regards … Susie Z

*From:*LegacyUserGroup 
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Cathy 
Pinner
*Sent:* Thursday, 26 January 2017 3:18 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report - mixture of Abt and Circ

Susie,

The display option in 5.7 has some relationship to what is used in 
Reports but it isn't exact, especially in the bracketed dates.

I suggest you change the display for Circa back to Circa or something 
and then find those dates and change them to Abt if that's what you want.

You can use Search - Search and Replace on various Date fields to mak e 
this a fast process. Just make sure you're only replacing the found 
text and not the whole field.

Cathy

Susie Zada wrote:


Hi Folks,

Is this a bug or have I missed a setting somewhere for Date
Prefixes - I
have this set in Customise 5.7 - Prefixes

If I type About / Abt / A it is to display as Abt
If I type Circa / Cir / C it is to display as Abt

In the Family Group Sheet - this prefix displays correctly UNLESS
it is in
bracket s which are automatically used for date ranges for Father,
Mother and
Spouse.

Example - Son James has Born Abt 1856, Died Abt 1905 BUT Spouse
Elizabeth
(Cir 1859 - Cir 1909)

If I look at the son and daughter-in-law they both display dates
with Abt
and not Circ

If I change the family to be the son and daughter-in-law as the
main people,
both Husband and Wife appear with the correct prefixes of Abt for
both born
and died BUT their parents Father and Mother have dates in
brackets showing
(Circ 1834 - Cr 1905)

In Australia when getting BDM Registrations from the indexes I
always use
Abt unless I have actual dates. This is because a birth could have
been
registered at the beginning of a year but the actual event could have
occurred at the end of the previous year - until I have t he real
dates they
have to be Abt because they could have been either year - hope
that makes
sense.

So why is the information appearing in brackets as part of the
standard
Family Group Report showing as Cir and not Abt?

Regards ... Susie Z

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Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report - mixture of Abt and Circ

[Susie Zada]

Hi Cathy,

 

Thanks for the suggestions – unfortunately it’s not a case of change any Circa 
etc dates to Abt because they’re all Abt anyway.

 

The exactly same dates – Abt birth and Abt death appear differently depending 
on whether the couple are the son and daughter-in-law and the exactly same 
couple are shown as Husband and Wife in the Family Group Report!  I’ve 
eliminated all the various versions for the dates and prefixes which is why I 
wondered if I’d found a bug or missed a setting!

 

Regards … Susie Z

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2017 3:18 PM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report - mixture of Abt and Circ

 

Susie,

The display option in 5.7 has some relationship to what is used in Reports but 
it isn't exact, especially in the bracketed dates.

I suggest you change the display for Circa back to Circa or something and then 
find those dates and change them to Abt if that's what you want.

You can use Search - Search and Replace on various Date fields to make this a 
fast process. Just make sure you're only replacing the found text and not the 
whole field.

Cathy

Susie Zada wrote:




Hi Folks,

Is this a bug or have I missed a setting somewhere for Date Prefixes - I
have this set in Customise 5.7 - Prefixes

If I type About / Abt / A it is to display as Abt
If I type Circa / Cir / C it is to display as Abt

In the Family Group Sheet - this prefix displays correctly UNLESS it is in
bracket s which are automatically used for date ranges for Father, Mother and
Spouse.

Example - Son James has Born Abt 1856, Died Abt 1905 BUT Spouse Elizabeth
(Cir 1859 - Cir 1909)

If I look at the son and daughter-in-law they both display dates with Abt
and not Circ

If I change the family to be the son and daughter-in-law as the main people,
both Husband and Wife appear with the correct prefixes of Abt for both born
and died BUT their parents Father and Mother have dates in brackets showing
(Circ 1834 - Cr 1905)

In Australia when getting BDM Registrations from the indexes I always use
Abt unless I have actual dates.  This is because a birth could have been
registered at the beginning of a year but the actual event could have
occurred at the end of the previous year - until I have the real dates they
have to be Abt because they could have been either year - hope that makes
sense.

So why is the information appearing in brackets as part of the standard
Family Group Report showing as Cir and not Abt?

Regards ... Susie Z

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[LegacyUG] Family Group Report - mixture of Abt and Circ

[Susie Zada]

Hi Folks,

Is this a bug or have I missed a setting somewhere for Date Prefixes - I
have this set in Customise 5.7 - Prefixes

If I type About / Abt / A it is to display as Abt
If I type Circa / Cir / C it is to display as Abt

In the Family Group Sheet - this prefix displays correctly UNLESS it is in
brackets which are automatically used for date ranges for Father, Mother and
Spouse.

Example - Son James has Born Abt 1856, Died Abt 1905 BUT Spouse Elizabeth
(Cir 1859 - Cir 1909)

If I look at the son and daughter-in-law they both display dates with Abt
and not Circ 

If I change the family to be the son and daughter-in-law as the main people,
both Husband and Wife appear with the correct prefixes of Abt for both born
and died BUT their parents Father and Mother have dates in brackets showing
(Circ 1834 - Cr 1905)

In Australia when getting BDM Registrations from the indexes I always use
Abt unless I have actual dates.  This is because a birth could have been
registered at the beginning of a year but the actual event could have
occurred at the end of the previous year - until I have the real dates they
have to be Abt because they could have been either year - hope that makes
sense.

So why is the information appearing in brackets as part of the standard
Family Group Report showing as Cir and not Abt?

Regards ... Susie Z


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Re: [LegacyUG] Thanks Ward

[Susie Zada]

Hi Brian,

Good answer but I think you're missing a few zeroes ... 0.001%

And for the people who don't care, it IS important - despite your belief
that the rest of the world get high speed Internet connections and the size
of message is irrelevant - it IS relevant - from one who doesn't often have
access to high speed unlimited internet connection.

Thank you to Millenia and this user group for continuing to think of the
less fortunate.

Regards ... Susie Zada

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot
Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2016 7:08 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Thanks Ward

> Does this method of users group not impact Internet Provider traffic?

This is a good question but the answer is absolutely not. These LUG messages
are text only and when compared to the amount of audio and video streaming
on the Internet, the text messages probably comprise less than .001% of the
available bandwidth.

(The .001% is purely a guess but based on knowledge of bandwidth
saturations; Google it if you want a more definitive number.)


Brian in CA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Comprehensive .pdf?

[Susie Zada]

Hi Cathy,

 

Yes I have – but in fact the Individual Reports provides an excellent Location 
Index as well as Name Index. 

 

As I said, having now played with it I can really see the benefit of the 
Individual Report for EVERYONE in our situation.  Everyone’s and every group’s 
situation will differ – it’s just I can now see this option working really well 
for us!

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 2:55 PM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Comprehensive .pdf?

 

Hi Susie,

Sorry, I misread you.
Guess I'm really dense this morning as I can't see how a PDF or paper copies of 
the Individual report could help.

You have discovered the Location Report for tagged locations showing the people 
and all their events that use that location?

Cathy

Susie Zada wrote:




Hi Cathy,

Thanks for the update and suggestions.  As a One-Place study [not 
one-name] the PDF individual report is ideal and of course having each 
Individual Report starting on a new page is perfect for extracting 
individuals to pass on.

One of my “problems” with Legacy – there are SO MANY options and until 
you play with them you just don’t understand the benefits of different 
options!

After years of using Excel for historic reports I prefer to avoid them 
because of the date issues – prefer to go straight to Access or 
something which copes better with the dates! J

I’ve used different options of web page creations etc etc etc for the 
different one-place study our group needs but having now played with 
this I can see a lot more options to suit our needs.

So thank you to the OP for asking the question!

Regards … Susie Z

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Pinner
*Sent:* Friday, 18 March 2016 2:21 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Comprehensive .pdf?

Pat,

Name List Report
You can Print from the Name List.
You can choose to include the fields you want in that report.

I use it mainly to print a Search List to csv so you can sort in a 
Spreadsheet program.

Susie,
For a one-name study, if you haven't discovered the Name List Print to 
csv, it may be the answer you are looking for.
If you are using Excel as your Spreadsheet program, because it doesn't 
recognise dates before 1901, it's a good idea to change your date 
setting before you export to -MM-DD at Options - Customise 5.1 so 
a text sort on the date column sorts them in date order.

Martha, you might need to contact support direct re the error you are 
getting.

Cathy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Comprehensive .pdf?

[Susie Zada]

The Individual Report can be found by selecting CHART REPORTS.

 

I just experimented and was rather pleased with the result – and I don’t have 
the biggest system and run Windows 7 with the latest Legacy Deluxe.

 

Individual Report:

 

Selected ALL options except Chronological Report.

Included images everywhere including event images – for example I have one with 
more than 50 events and more than 40 with images!

 

I have a PDF Printer installed so I PRINTED to that printer.

 

14 minutes from start to finish.

 

29355 Individuals

9617 Families

322 Sources

 

Result 30,973 pages

 

Name Index: pp. 30178-30973

 

Source citations: 26950 pp. 29444-30177

 

Individual Reports: pp. 1-29443

 

Playing with this has given me ideas on how to use it for my “one place study” 
– previously I used to extract via GEDCOM to another program then spend days 
modifying and keeping my fingers crossed.  This may be a better solution!

 

Hope that helps someone.

 

Regards … Susie Z

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Pat Hickin
Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 10:36 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Comprehensive .pdf?

 

Thanks for your detailed instructions, Robert.  But what is a name list report; 
I can't find it.

 

Pat

 

On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Martha Graham  > wrote:

Good Morning Sherry,
I did as you suggested and tried to create a pdf of the whole database.
The process gets as far as letting me create a file name, then goes to 
"collecting", then shuts down the program.

Martha




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Re: [LegacyUG] Comprehensive .pdf?

[Susie Zada]

Hi Cathy,

 

Thanks for the update and suggestions.  As a One-Place study [not one-name] the 
PDF individual report is ideal and of course having each Individual Report 
starting on a new page is perfect for extracting individuals to pass on.

 

One of my “problems” with Legacy – there are SO MANY options and until you play 
with them you just don’t understand the benefits of different options!

 

After years of using Excel for historic reports I prefer to avoid them because 
of the date issues – prefer to go straight to Access or something which copes 
better with the dates! :)

 

I’ve used different options of web page creations etc etc etc for the different 
one-place study our group needs but having now played with this I can see a lot 
more options to suit our needs.

 

So thank you to the OP for asking the question!

 

Regards … Susie Z

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Friday, 18 March 2016 2:21 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Comprehensive .pdf?

 

Pat,

Name List Report
You can Print from the Name List.
You can choose to include the fields you want in that report.

I use it mainly to print a Search List to csv so you can sort in a Spreadsheet 
program.

Susie,
For a one-name study, if you haven't discovered the Name List Print to csv, it 
may be the answer you are looking for.
If you are using Excel as your Spreadsheet program, because it doesn't 
recognise dates before 1901, it's a good idea to change your date setting 
before you export to -MM-DD at Options - Customise 5.1 so a text sort on 
the date column sorts them in date order.

Martha, you might need to contact support direct re the error you are getting.

Cathy




 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Changed Password; Now What?

[Susie Zada]

I'd love to know the URL of the website - I presume that might have been in
the so-called email that all subscribers were supposed to receive together
with the mysterious new password?

 

I went to the other one suggested - definitely no "LOGIN" option so I
subscribed instead - promptly got told I was already subscribed . go figure!
:)

 

Regards  Susie Z

 

From: Legacyusergroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of William Boswell
Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2016 1:50 PM
To: Legacy Family Tree List 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Changed Password; Now What?

 

I just went online to the website where we're supposed to change our
password using the temporary one.  I changed the temporary password to
something else.

Is there something else we're supposed to do?  Are we still going to get
messages with attachments?

This is also a test message just to see what happens because all of the
other messages are going to my spam folder.

Bill Boswell

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Re: [LegacyUG] New Mailing List Software and Servers

[Susie Zada]

I READ IT!

 

And nothing you described appears on the link you provided.

 

No LOGIN option and definitely no LOGIN button!

 

Regards . Susie Z

 

From: Legacyusergroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Don McRoberts
Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2016 1:25 PM
To: 'Mailing List for users of Legacy Family Tree software'

Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New Mailing List Software and Servers

 

TO EVERYONE PLEASE READ THIS!!!

 

While most of us have simply been deleting all of the "bogus" messages we
have been receiving, there is a quick fix for getting your account setup
again the way you want it. Just go to the Legacy User Group List manager
webpage. Link is below:

 

*
http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com

 

Once there, if you don't see the Log in with a box for your email in it,
click on the  "Log in" button and enter only your email address and then
click on the Log in button again. You'll get an error message at the top of
the page but don't worry about it. Then, click on the Password Reminder
button that is down the page a ways. You will probably get another error
message but again, don't worry about it. A short while late you should see
your password reminder message in your email with your "NEW" password. Go
back to the Legacy User Group list webpage and then log in with the password
that was in your email. That will get you back to where you can then change
your password and adjust your list settings to whatever you want them to be.
Mine had not changed so it appears only the password was changed with the
move to the new server.

 

Good luck,

Don

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] New Mailing List Software and Servers

[Susie Zada]

And a real pity I can't find a welcome message or if I have I can't read it!

Looks like we'll just disappear into the ether

Regards  Susie Zada - a member of this mailing list for many years -
maybe not for much longer?

-Original Message-
From: Legacyusergroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Brian L. Lightfoot
Sent: Tuesday, 23 February 2016 12:17 PM
To: Legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] New Mailing List Software and Servers

Just make sure you give everybody 2 or 3 days notice ahead of time as to
what will be happening otherwise the list will be flooded with messages from
users wanting to know why they're being signed up on a new mailing list.


Brian in CA



-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 2:45 PM
To: Legacy Test; Legacy User Group
Subject: New Mailing List Software and Servers

We have had to migrate our old mailing lists to a new server and software.
As part of that migration all users had to be resubscribed to the "New"
List. Everyone on the List will receive a welcome message.

The new list server and software requires a password for you to manage your
list subscription. A default password is included in your welcome message
along with the link to your new list account management page where you can
select list options.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
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RE: [LegacyUG] Source List Name

[Susie Zada]

Hi Pat,

The first BOOK s are actually B Zero Zero K - numbers sort before letters of 
the alphabet.

Regards ... Susie Z

From: Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 28 July 2015 9:48 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Source List Name

Can someone explain to me why these Source List Names appear in the following 
order??

INET - B00K - BIO - P_McC_Bea_DYSART-James by Griffith
INET - B00K - EXTR - PRICKETT-JohnPrerog Ct of Cant   Mocavo
INET - B00K - ORAL HIST - PRICKETT-Charles F fam  UCLA
INET - B00K - ORAL HIST - PRICKETT-MaudieF fam  UCLA
INET - BIO - BOGARDUS_Anneke_JansBerne
INET - BIO - L_Gis_VINEYARD=WEINERT-Johan Nicholas   USGenWeb
INET - BIO - L_Gis_VINEYARD-WEINERT--Johan N - PA-Berks Co-usgenarch
INET - BOOK - BIO - NJ_MORRIS P_JACKSON   RootswAnc
INET - BOOK - CHURCH - BRETHREN  - Builders  - M_KLINE-JFlory   Mocavo

I have copied each just as it appears.

Naturally I want all the INET - BOOKs to appear together and not be separated 
by the INET - BIOs.

When I first noticed these I assumed there was a spacing problem, but there 
isn't!

Pat





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RE: [LegacyUG] Fw: Latest Build Issues

[Susie Zada]

Hi Laurel,

I can repeat the problem and have a PDF of a Family Group Sheet showing that 
exact error.  Version 8.0.0.467 Deluxe just installed.  Please feel free to add 
my email and offered copy of FGS showing the error to your Report Issues if you 
think it will help.

Regards ... Susie Zada
sz...@zades.com.au

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From: gregandlau...@gmail.com [mailto:gregandlau...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 18 February 2015 11:53 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Fw: Latest Build Issues

Never mind - I found the form to Report Issues.
___

So no one has had the below issue after the latest build?  Sorry, I just 
noticed that I referred to the symbol that has replaced the periods in Reports 
as 2 horizontal lines – not sure where my head was, but it should be
2 VERTICAL lines. I just did a google search and it is called a vertical broken 
bar (or double vertical broken bar in my situation).  I have since noticed that 
this only happens to Events in Reports. Even if I go and delete the event and 
re-enter a new event with the same wording, the vertical broken bar shows up in 
the same place when I run a Report.  For example, the abbreviation St. -- 
anywhere that I have referred to St. Paul's Cathedral, or St. John, the period 
is removed and the broken bar symbol is in it's place.  If I go to the event 
and delete the period, the Report looks fine.
If I go back and add the period, the broken bar symbol is back in the Report.  
The broken bar symbol is also replacing periods between sentences.
How do I report this to Legacy?  Thanks for your help. Laurel 
__

I just downloaded version 8.0.0.467 and have come across the following after 
the update:  1) Additional spaces between words were added to my transcribed 
sources under the Text of Source screen in Master Sources. About 25% of my 
sources were affected.  The extra spaces were just random – anywhere from an
additional one to 5 spaces between words.  (Eg: a BronzeMemorial has
beeninstalled).  I was able to go in and delete all these added spaces –
it was just time consuming to have to do so.  2) Anything that was bolded was 
particularly affected - there were extra spaces before and after many bolded 
words.  But after removing the extra spacing around bolded words and saving, 
the extra spacing would come back. I actually had to change the words from bold 
to normal to be able to remove the extra spaces. If I tried to rebold the word 
afterwards, the extra spacing would come back.  3) In reports – Indiv., 
Family, Ancestor  Desc., in random places the period and any spaces around the 
period, have been replaced by 2 horizontal lines.
(Eg: Married in the Anglican Church of St||Paul’s||Witnesses were
Sally).   The horizontal lines have a break in the middle, but I don’t
have the symbol on my keyboard to show you.  I have ran a Check/Repair, Compact 
File and booted my computer, but these issues are still there. I can live 
without the bolded words, but the reports don’t look too pretty with the 
missing spaces and || in place of periods. Is anyone else noticing this?
Laurel





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RE: [LegacyUG] Problem With Descendant Book Report

[Susie Zada]

Hi Tom,

Not the same report but similar problem a few weeks ago [Legacy 8.0.0.459 
Deluxe].  I thought I was going nuts as the new events were there where I added 
them but only the old events were appearing in the report and not the additions.

I was copying and pasting these events - only minor changes each time [year 
etc].  I obviously unintentionally clicked on the PRIVATE box and was then 
copying this setting through all the new entries.  Once un-clicked, they all 
appeared as they should.

Check that your problem doesn't have anything to do with Privacy options - 
either for people, events, entries, or reports.

Regards  Susie Z


From: Tom Weiss [mailto:tomgwe...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 3:02 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Problem With Descendant Book Report

I tried to find an answer to this online, but couldn't. So...

I entered some new data on a relative, George Wilkes Beckett, Jr.

I  then ran a descendant book report starting with his father, Georges Wilkes 
Beckett. The new data didn't show up in the report. Furthermore,  I had checked 
the box for all generations, but only two showed up.

I then ran a descendant narrative book report on George Wilkes Beckett, and 
everything showed up  - all the new data, and through all five generations.

I cannot figure out what is going on. Something obvious, no doubt, but I'm 
tearing out my hair trying to figure it out!!

Any help...

tom







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RE: [LegacyUG] Hourglass chart

[Susie Zada]

Hi Pat,



Do you have the Deluxe version?



I just tried both the Hourglass Chart and the Bow Tie Chart – no problems – you 
need to specify the number of generations above and below the selected couple.  
i.e. you start with the central couple in the standard view then select Legacy 
Charting and the type of Chart.



Regards ……. Susie Z



From: John S. Adams [mailto:oldbr...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 2015 3:36 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Hourglass chart



Sorry, didn't know you wanted grand kids, too.  I don't see any way to do what 
you want other than to create 2 charts and cut and paste.

John S. Adams

Ventura, CA



  _

Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 18:39:46 -0500
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hourglass chart
From: pph...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com

Thanks, John,



However, I don't see how to show current couple, current couple's parents, 
current couple's children and grand children.



Pat



On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 4:20 PM, John S. Adams oldbr...@hotmail.com wrote:

Try the Bow Tie Family chart in Legacy Charting.

John S. Adams

Ventura, CA

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RE: [LegacyUG] Tiny tafel

[Susie Zada]

Oh no – showing my age here … I remember them well, particularly with our old 
Bulletin Boards when it was so important to save every character as you paid 
for every second online!  That was when we used offline Readers for our 
prehistoric emails!  I guess that means that you're too young! vbg

Jane, if you explain exactly what data you want in your report, you'll probably 
find that Legacy definitely offers options that will meet your needs.

I looked for an old TT file but couldn't find one on my system - even in the 
archives.  Found an example on Wikipedia ... 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiny_Tafel

Regards ... Susie Z

From: Paula Ryburn [mailto:paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2014 11:44 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Tiny tafel

I've never heard of this Tiny Tafel.  Can you describe the report you want to 
produce?  --Paula

From: Jane Sarles sarlesinsi...@gmail.com
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 12:33 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Tiny tafel

I did a search of Help for Tiny Tafel, but found nothing.  I suppose a
report might be constructable to do one, but I am not sure how to go
about it.  Ideas?

Jane S.



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RE: [LegacyUG] Family view Individual is not the same options

[Susie Zada]

Hi Syble,

The Family View is just that - a view of certain fields.
When you go to the Individual Information page that allows you to update the 
key fields that belong in that area.

The Cause of Death [I presume that is what you mean by DthCauthen ?] is added 
in the Notes screen - there are three tabs - General; Research; Medical - it's 
the Medical Tab where you enter Cause of Death.

Hope that helps ... Susie Z

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Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2014 12:40 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Family view  Individual is not the same options

The Family View page is showing the 5 information options as: Born, Age, Died, 
Bur, DthCauthen when I go to the same person's Individual Information page the 
options to fill in are: Born, Chr, Died, Buried,  why and how to do fix 
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[LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart sources

[Susie Zada]

Hi Folks,

Is there a setting I'm missing or is this how it's meant to be or is it a
bug?

Version 8.0.0.364

Sources are only appearing for MALES in the Pedigree Chart - no sources for
FEMALES unless they are the No 1 person on the chart - and then for no other
females on the chart.

Continuation pages - same as for first page - No 1 person has sources
regardless if they are Male or Female, then rest of entries on the page,
sources for all males and none for females.

Any suggestions?

Regards  Susie Z




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RE: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart sources

[Susie Zada]

Hello Brian,

I'm haven't focussed on what appears in the list of sources [endnotes] but the 
fact that there are no source reference numbers beside birth or death 
information for any females except if they are the starting person and then 
only on the starting person.

All males have source references numbers for birth, marriage and death.

I have run Check / Repair and also Compact Family File.

I have RESET all reports.

I have closed down Legacy.

I have closed down my PC.

I have opened and converted different family files.

I have tested this with a completely new unconnected family added to the 
database since the upgrade to Legacy 8.

I have tested this with family that existed prior to upgrade to Legacy 8 with 
no changes to any of the individuals.

And yes, I have checked that the females all have sources for basic birth and 
death information.

The results are still the same - NO sources showing for females but for the one 
exception mentioned above.  By the way I have also done Reports / Pedigree 
Chart with males as the starting person - the norm for the ones I wanted.

My initial request - what setting am I missing or what am I doing wrong - I can 
repeat the above again and again and again.  I can see it in Preview, on 
printed report, and on report saved to PDF - all the same.

So can someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Regards . Susie Z

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From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 2:24 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart sources

I am getting all my sources for females when I create a pedigree chart.
I did not do an audit to make sure every citation number on the chart matched 
in the sources list but I did not see any number gaps in the list at the end of 
the report which indicated citations on the chart were not in the list.

Brian
Customer Support
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RE: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart sources

[Susie Zada]

Thanks Kurt and Joseph - have reported the problem.

Regards  Susie Z

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Kneeland [mailto:kurt-kneel...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013 9:10 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart sources

That's the difference - Basic vs Sourcewriter sources.

=  Pedigree Chart report, females not in first position, Basic sources aren't 
being recognized/included.

-Original Message-
From: Susie Zada [mailto:sz...@zades.com.au]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 3:49 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Pedigree Chart sources

Hi Joseph,

That's a relief!  Now all we need is for someone to tell us what we're doing 
wrong!

Is it possible it has anything to do with Basic Sources or Sourcewriter?  ALL 
of mine are Basic Sources - what about yours?

Regards  Susie Z




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[LegacyUG] Family Group Sheet error

[Susie Zada]

Hi Folks,

Another problem which has been reported ...

If you use the List Style formatting for your events, the first person
appearing after the first page will have events that have retained the
Description, Date and Place of the last event for the previous person and
keep repeating those details for every event in the rest of the report!

If you change to Event Sentence Formatting the problem disappears.

One of those errors that isn't obvious unless you're really studying the
report but very disconcerting when you realise that it is actually printing
incorrect data for individuals.

Regards ... Susie Z




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RE: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

[Susie Zada]

Hi Anne,

FILE / BACKUP FILE / select name and location for Data Backup and/or Select 
Name and Location for Media Backup.

Regards ... Susie Z

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Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2013 7:43 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

Every time I exit Legacy I do a back up to an external hard drive. When I was 
using Legacy 7.5 it remembered my settings and automatically backed up to where 
I wanted it on the external drive.

However when I exit v8 it automatically defaults to the C/ drive for back ups 
and I have to change it to the E/ hard drive every time. I have checked the 
user manual and the help in the programme but cannot find how to set the 
default backup to the E/ hard drive.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

[Susie Zada]

Hi Anne,

Sorry I don't have an answer to this - I also changed the location for backup 
of both data and media and they have definitely stuck for me.  I do not backup 
to external / removable drives - I wonder if that makes a difference.  It 
sounds like it's not finding the default settings - did you move the location 
of these files?  Others might be able to make suggestions.

Regards  Susie Z

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Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2013 9:15 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backup to external hard drive

Yes, that is what I do. But the next day when I use Legacy it has defaulted 
back to the C/ drive. Is there a way to make the E/ drive the default?





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[LegacyUG] Well done Legacy Sales and Customer Service

[Susie Zada]

Hi Folks,

Almost a week ago I paid for my upgrade from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8 and I
messed up big time - was trying to do it while I was at work and I got every
email address WRONG.  I was not surprised I didn't get my customer number
etc and decided I'd wait until I had time at home to follow it up properly.

Home is in Ocean Grove, Victoria, Australia.

I sent a new email this morning [Saturday morning, Australian time] and
within minutes of hitting send the phone rang.  It was Kenny from Customer
Service - obviously in the USA.  Friendly, polite AND understanding - he
gave me my new customer number over the phone AND sent copies via email to
make sure I could download the new version and get up and running.

Now that's what I call Customer Service.

Congratulations and Thank You to Legacy / Millennia.

Regards .. Susie Zada
Ocean Grove, Victoria, Australia
A happy Legacy user for many, many years - now even more impressed.




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[LegacyUG] Problem with Family Group Record report

[Susie Zada]

Hi Folks,

Is this a known problem - any suggestions?

When printing or previewing a Family Group Record report, on second or
subsequent pages, if the page starts with a child, the line that has a grey
background in the first box and usually contains child number, sex and name
is grey but no text in the line.  The contents text [number, sex and name]
appear near the bottom of the same page.

The second problem / change - if the husband [1st person] has a photo, the
details for that person [born etc.] do not start printing until the bottom
of the photo leaving a big blank space in the report.

I'm using Version 7.5.0.219

I don't know when these problem appeared - you need the right number of
children and circumstances for this to happen.

Another copy of this report for a different family has the grey box at the
top of the page, the child number on the next page, the child sex on the
next page and the child name on yet another page, then no heading / details
at the top of the next page but the rest of the report continuing normally
about 1/4 of the way down the page.

I have plenty of correct examples saved as .pdf files.

The same results occur in preview, print or .pdf forms.

I use A4 paper and have not changed any printer settings etc.

I have RESET and redone my options to no avail.

I have RESET and redone options one at a time and the problems appear as
follows: if I include:
Events for children
Photos for children
Event List style

So far OK

Include Event photos - problem with first photo and blank space but children
OK

As soon as I add events for husband and wife the children go wrong - as
detailed above.

As asked at the beginning - is this a known problem or any other
suggestions?

Regards ... Susie Z





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RE: [LegacyUG] Genviewer_please help!

[Susie Zada]

Hi Darlene,

For GenViewer to go http://www.mudcreeksoftware.com/downloading_genviewer.htm 
and click on the link in option 1) [mudgv123.exe].  Save to your hard drive, 
then instal - you will be asked for your lines of code to copy and paste.

For GenMatcher go to http://www.mudcreeksoftware.com/genmatcher.htm and click 
on the DOWNLOAD link in the box on the right.  Save to your hard drive, then 
instal - you will be asked for your lines of code to copy and paste.

Both of the above links are found by clicking on the Downloads menu.

Regards .. Susie Z

From: Darlene  Don Hicks [mailto:darca...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 19 Feb 2012 1:06 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Genviewer_please help!

Please Help!
  I bought both GenViewer and Genmatcher.  I waited for the e-mails of 
confirmation and got my special code number for each.  I looked for a download 
to click on, but found none.  I went back in to the website at Mudcreek Sales 
but can not download it without buying it again.  I looked for a place to put 
in the code exactly as they had sent it to me, but found none, and also no 
apply button.  Help!  I bought it, but how do I download it without paying all 
over again?

   Thanks for any and all help in advance!

Darlene Hicks
darca...@yahoo.com




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[LegacyUG] Family Group Report and Event Pictures problem

[Susie Zada]

Hi Folks,

Am I missing something or is this a bug and if so is it a known / reported
one?

Select Report / Family Group / Report Options / Include / Event pictures

Regardless of how many times I save the settings and/or load them, the Event
pictures won't stick.

Event pictures option ALSO appears under the Pictures tab as well as the
Include tab.

If Event pictures is NOT selected in the Include option, the Pictures option
shows Event pictures greyed out and blank check box
If Event pictures IS selected in the Include option, the Pictures options
shows Event pictures greyed out and a tick in the check box

The ONLY way Event pictures are included in the report is for Event pictures
to be selected in the Include option

If you print a report then select another one, the Event pictures selection
doesn't stick and the next report does not include them - EVEN if you don't
close the Select a Report box.

Any suggestions?  It's driving me nuts trying to remember to select it EVERY
time I want to do a report.

Regards .. Susie Z





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RE: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report and Event Pictures problem

[Susie Zada]

Thanks Sherry - saves me having to put in an error report!

Many thanks  Susie Z

-Original Message-
From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 04 Dec 2011 12:55 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report and Event Pictures problem

LDS options are only available if you have the LDS information enabled.

The problem you're having is a known bug which has been fixed for the
next update.


Sincerely,
Sherry
Technical Support
Legacy Family Tree



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[LegacyUG] Family Group Record missing dates locations - a known problem?

[Susie Zada]

Hi Folks,

I have Legacy Deluxe 7.5.0.112 running on Windows XP

I have recently noticed a problem when producing the Family Group Record
report ...

I have my options set to use Event Format = Use List Style formatting.

If I Preview, Print [to printer] or Print to pdf  a number of Events don't
show the Date or Location fields / data.

I have 27 events for George FUSSEN, 11 events for Mary McNEIFF [his wife],
and 3 events for their marriage.

The first 5 events for George are OK, the next 5 are missing Date  Location
[there is no field divider for these ones], number 11 is OK, 12-18 no date
or location, 19 is OK, 20  21 not, 22 is OK, 23-27 not.

For Mary 1-7 are OK, 8-11 are not.

For their marriage all 3 events are OK.

Testing what does and doesn't work - if I create the Family Group Record as
Text or Html all data appears OK.

If I create a web site for my database, all data is OK - see ...

http://www.zades.com.au/susiez/family/7.htm

If I change the Event Format to Use event sentence formatting and number
each event or use bullet points all data appears OK.  Interestingly if I
change it back to Use List Style formatting the list style includes either
numbers or bullet points [hangover from event sentence formatting option.
To clear these I need to select event sentence formatting and no numbers
or bullets then change it back to use list style formatting to clear the
bullets or numbers.

I don't want to use the sentence formatting - definitely the list style but
it's useless without the dates and locations.

I have reports produced previously where this was not a problem.  At a best
guess I think it was fine with version 6 and has changed more recently.

I also have this problem in a separate database created in version 6.

Note: sources are BASIC and not SOURCEWRITE - shouldn't make a different but
who knows?

Any suggestions?

Regards . Susie Zada





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RE: [LegacyUG] Family Group Record missing dates locations - a known problem?

[Susie Zada]

Hi Jenny,

Glad you can reproduce the error.  I've searched the archives and can't find a 
similar problem discussed.

I've submitted an Error Report in the meantime.

If you find any common factors, let me know!

Regards . Susie Z

Rest chopped ...




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RE: [LegacyUG] Family Group Record missing dates locations - a known problem?

[Susie Zada]

Hi Brian,

Do you mean if the full event listing [Event name, description, date  
location] doesn't print on a single line in list mode then the following events 
won't print date  location?

Mine appear to follow that pattern - in fact after this first occurs it takes 
an event that DOES have the description on the second line for the date  
location to print again and then of course the following one doesn't.

Can you tell me what version this started happening in?

Regards .. Susie Z

-Original Message-
From: Brian/Support [mailto:br...@legacyfamilytree.com]
Sent: 01 Nov 2011 12:46 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Family Group Record missing dates  locations - a known 
problem?

We have a problem in our tracking system on this. If the description
line for an event carries over to a following line then the events which
follow that carry-over are missing the date and locations.

Look at your problem reports and see if they are the same. If they are
different please submit a problem report, with a sample PDF report attached.

Brian
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
br...@legacyfamilytree.com
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Thanks.

On 31/10/2011 5:55 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

 I have recently noticed a problem when producing the Family Group Record
 report ...

 I have my options set to use Event Format = Use List Style formatting.

 If I Preview, Print [to printer] or Print to pdf  a number of Events don't
 show the Date or Location fields / data.

 I have 27 events for George FUSSEN, 11 events for Mary McNEIFF [his wife],
 and 3 events for their marriage.

 The first 5 events for George are OK, the next 5 are missing Date   Location
 [there is no field divider for these ones], number 11 is OK, 12-18 no date
 or location, 19 is OK, 20   21 not, 22 is OK, 23-27 not.

 For Mary 1-7 are OK, 8-11 are not.

 For their marriage all 3 events are OK.

 Testing what does and doesn't work - if I create the Family Group Record as
 Text or Html all data appears OK.

 I can confirm this.  I just tried FGRs for 2 members of my family.  On
 the first one the Preview showed all Events fine except for one for
 Address (which was the 7th of 12 Events) where the Date and Location
 fields were missing (Desc and Notes not used.)  With the 2nd FGR there
 were quite a few Census Events and with some of these the Date was
 pushed onto a lower line and overwritten by the Desc line.  HTML was fine.

 I think it might be something to do with the Desc line - whether or not
 the Event has a Desc and if so how long it is, but I need to test
 further to check this out.



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