Re: use of LFS_TGT in relesed lfs 6.4 book

2009-01-18 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Chris Staub wrote: I had a user in IRC insisting they were looking at LFS 6.4, specifically the pdf - http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/stable/LFS-BOOK-6.4.pdf.bz2 - and that it mentioned $LFS_TGT in that command. I tried checking the pdf myself to be certain, but I'm having

Re: Where do I find the Linux-2.6.27.4 API Headers?

2008-12-16 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Dustin W. wrote: Hello all, I'm following LFS 6.4. Where do I download the files for this section: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter05/linux-headers.html ? I used the wget-list to download everything else, but I don't see it, and it's not in the package list (from

Re: book 6.3 ch 5.3.1 questions

2008-12-01 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Stealth wrote: /tools: symbolic link to '/mnt/lfs/tools' Looks good then. If you follow everything step by step, you should be fine. I bet you just forgot to run 'make install' with gcc-pass1 last time. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ:

Re: LFS 6.3 ch 5.2 questions

2008-12-01 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Trent Shea wrote: On November 30, 2008 10:29:25 pm Stealth wrote: Is there anything on this page (book 6.3 ch 5.2) that needs to be done before going to 5.3 to follow the binutils build instructions? Everyone has been amazingly patient with your criticism of the book. Just for the record,

Re: LFS 6.3 ch 5.2 questions

2008-12-01 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Trent Shea wrote: Everyone has been amazingly patient with your criticism of the book. Just for the record, this comment is more about the historical attitude of the LFS community, not about the questions raised. Sorry, this sounds like it was my comment... :) What I

Re: Chapter 6 building against /tools still?

2008-12-01 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Greg Schafer wrote: Simon Geard wrote: One other thing I wonder about, in the find 6.4 book. As I noted before, one of my earlier problems was that libtool was ending up with hardcoded references to /tools/bin/grep, which I corrected by moving grep to be build a little earlier. However, the

Re: 6.3 ch 5.7 same problem

2008-12-01 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Stealth wrote: If you are one of those growing tired of my mail don't read it, just delete it. Save us both some aggravation. If you really want to help and not insult, then read on. Blame Trent for this opening paragraph. This was unecessary. I have arrived at the exact same place as

Re: 6.3 ch 5.7 same problem

2008-12-01 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Chris Staub wrote: You forgot the in the command. Good eye. I knew it was something small like that... :) -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: 6.3 ch 5.7 same problem

2008-12-01 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Chris Staub wrote: Just practice - that's been a frequent issue mentioned in the IRC channel. Apparently a number of users assume the in that command in the book is just the secondary bash prompt, not part of the command. I suppose the could be moved to the end of the 1st line or

Re: 6.3 ch 5.7 same problem

2008-12-01 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Chris Staub wrote: As I said, I don't think it's unclear. None of the other commands in the book (including the multi-line ones) have the bash prompt there, and as the book says in the Typography page, all the stuff in the command blocks is to be *typed* exactly as seen. But I guess since

Re: LFS 6.3 chpt 5.7 step cmd problem

2008-11-30 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Stealth wrote: On Sunday 30 November 2008 03:33:05 pm Wolfgang Messingschlager wrote: Stealth wrote: On Sunday 30 November 2008 02:17:30 pm Herman Gerritsen wrote: gcc -dumpspecs | sed '[EMAIL PROTECTED]/lib/ld-linux.so.2@/tools@g' \ `dirname $(gcc -print-libgcc-file-name)`/specs and I

Re: LiveCD LFS book 6.3 chapter 5 questions

2008-11-27 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Stealth wrote: Does chapter 5.1 and 5.2 actually give instruction that is supposed to be done at that time? This is not clear to me. Yes. The first big red (okay, pink) note labeled 'Important' in section 5.1 answers your question. Read it carefully and try again. What I haven't found is

Re: LiveCD LFS book 6.3 chapter 5 questions

2008-11-27 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
DJ Lucas wrote: Stealth wrote: I have read the book from start to chapter 5.3.1 about 6 or 7 times trying to figure out what I missed. I don't see anything unless 5.1 and 5.2 actually have steps that I am supposed to do. 5.3 He said he was using the 6.3 book, which is why I said

Re: root passwd

2008-05-29 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Gernot Jander wrote: What is wrong? Just guessing, but you may need a populated /dev, too. Try: mount --bind /dev /home/jhalfs/dev -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: saving time

2008-05-05 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 12:53:07AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After finishing lfs install i must say the lfs is the best linux/GNU yet! However i would be thankful if someone could clarify this: would it be possible to skip to chapter 6 when installing glibc in 5 chapter, meaning

Re: grub hangs without error message on mac mini

2008-04-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jon Fullmer wrote: Does GRUB work with Open Firmware? The Mac Mini may be Intel-based, but it doesn't have a PC BIOS (which is what you would normally use with GRUB). It uses Open Firmware. I would think that you would need to use yaboot. Careful what 'facts' you spread around here.

Re: grub hangs without error message on mac mini

2008-04-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jon Fullmer wrote: Jeremy, thanks for the correction. I use LFS on a lot of Macs, but none that new. ;-) No problem. Sorry if it sounded gruff. It's been a wet rainy day today and I haven't been feeling well. I take it you use LFS on PowerPCs then? More help testing the JH branch which

Re: Grub Hangs

2008-03-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Ken Moffat wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 11:17:23AM -0600, Wehner y Asociados wrote: “Stopping dhcpcd on the eth0 interface - LEASEINFO Test Failed! - dhcpcd is not running [WARN]” Not relevant, you were in chroot so this is from the host system's initscripts, and anyway it isn't a

Re: LFS for x86_64: x compile ?

2008-03-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
lanas wrote: Folks, I'm still unclear about the very simple following thing. I've built successfully a LFS system using VmWare running a 32-bit version of Fedora 8. That's all sweet and nice. The host is Fedora Core 6 x86_64. I'm about to embark on building a x86_64 version using CLFS

Re: LFS for x86_64: x compile ?

2008-03-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
lanas wrote: Obviously I haven't read the CLFS book from A to Z. Do you mean by that, that it'll go natively because of the 'chroot or boot' choice, even though there was an extra step (compared to plain LFS) at building and using a cross-compile toolchain in the first place ? Yes. The final

Re: LFS for x86_64: x compile ?

2008-03-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Rod Waldren wrote: Just to satisfy my curiosity. Is there any reason not to just build a 32-bit static grub with Pure64? I realize it isn't pure at that point but it's only to kick things off. I think I found the idea on the CLFS lists, I just googled and found alot of references to

Re: LFS 6.3 - 6.12. picky question

2008-03-05 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 11:19:38AM -0800, Dan Nicholson wrote: On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Clyde Forrester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the end of Chapter 6.12. I gave the following commands: rm -v dummy.c a.out dummy.log cd .. rm -rf gcc-4.1.2 rm -rf gcc-build Did I just

Re: LFS 6.3 - 6.12. picky question

2008-03-05 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Wed, Mar 05, 2008 at 02:08:50PM -0600, Clyde Forrester wrote: I think that the book's instructions place those dummy files rather specifically, Well, not really. The instructions take place relative to your current working directory, which, depending on how you view it, may or may not be

Re: chapter 6.7 /tools/bin/gcc file doesnt exist error

2008-03-04 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 05:24:35PM +, Ross Nesbitt wrote: i get the error message as follows: /sources/linux-2.6.22.5/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: /tools/bin/gcc: No such file or directory /sources/linux-2.6.22.5/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: /tools/bin/gcc: No such file or

What next? [Was: Re: LiveCD or No LiveCD?]

2008-02-26 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Huntwork wrote: * Does the community still want the LiveCD project? (Consider that a couple of the arguments above imply that the LFS LiveCD by its nature is degrading the quality of LFS) * If so, is the community prepared to lend help in keeping it alive? Thank you all for your

Re: LFS 'screen' in VmWare

2008-02-26 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Henty wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 12:05:28PM +, support wrote: I guess for the livecd it'd be easier to pass it as a kernel parameter with VGA=option. Does VGA=... work on anything except lilo? I could never get it to work under grub and every solution I Googled

Re: What next? [Was: Re: LiveCD or No LiveCD?]

2008-02-26 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: So we see at least two non-empty camps. One wants a strictly minimal CD, and one wants packages beyond it. The most democratic solution would be to make two CDs (and that's, in fact, the origin of the talks about package management), but we don't have enough

Re: What next? [Was: Re: LiveCD or No LiveCD?]

2008-02-26 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
support wrote: Multiple 'windows' don't require X, personally i logon to 2 or 3 virtual terminals, carry out the lfs build work in terminal 1 and have a copy of the book open via lynx in terminal 2, then i can simply select with the mouse to highlight and right click in VT1 to paste. To open

LiveCD or No LiveCD?

2008-02-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hello Everyone, It has recently been suggested to me that the LFS LiveCD project be killed. The main arguments for this are, essentially: 1) It is currently unmaintained 2) It removes the essential prerequisite of being able to configure a Linux system 3) It leads to less testing from other

Re: LiveCD or No LiveCD?

2008-02-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Howard_apfc6 wrote: - Seems like the ultimate build platform for newbs. That's exactly what I am against. LiveCD users create 90% of support requests. Noobs (not to be confused with newbs) should be filtered out, e.g., by telling them to install and

Re: LiveCD or No LiveCD?

2008-02-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Eric Stout wrote: (that is, tools for raid, not the specific package raidtools.. mdadm is much better in my opinion) When was the last time you used the CD? mdadm has been available on it for a long time. Or were you saying that there are other tools it is missing? -- JH --

Re: LiveCD or No LiveCD?

2008-02-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Eric Stout wrote: But main stream distros these days have a lot more tools available to them than the LiveCD can even dream of (simple technological fact due to the storage capacity of the medium; CD/DVD versus HD) and typically include a very simple means of installing what tools you don't

Re: LiveCD or No LiveCD?

2008-02-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Wit wrote: All MHO - inaccuracies and all. dons flame-retardent suit and activitates fire suppression system No need to do that, at least not on my account. That was a very interesting response and it has given me a good deal to consider. I enjoyed the read thoroughly. Thank you. -- JH

Re: LiveCD or No LiveCD?

2008-02-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Wit wrote: Follow the KISS principal, not the inverse KISS principal (i.e Keep it Stupid, Simple). ;-) Yeah, don't get me wrong, I wasn't offering to add more items. On a related post in another list I was already proposing to make the next CD bare-bones and design a better core system. If

Re: LiveCD or No LiveCD?

2008-02-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
support wrote: As for community involvement, if there was an easy way to see a list of things to be done, i'm sure more people would get involved, at the moment the contribute page on the website doesn't offer any way to get involved in the development. Good point. Noted and will look into

Re: LiveCD or No LiveCD?

2008-02-25 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Wit wrote: Not to be presumptive here, but don't get the cart before the horse. I'm sure there are many good ideas available from both you and the potential user community. But first focus only on getting a Yea or Nay about the desirability and viability of the project. Those who have a

Re: LFS 6.1.1 on PPC

2006-05-19 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jon Fullmer wrote: You don't need CLFS. I built a couple of systems just using a slightly modified LFS (i.e., obviously GRUB is not needed). The first base system was running Mandrake PPC on a beige G3 PowerMac. The biggest difference to watch for is the name of your dynamic linker. On x86,

Re: LFS 6.1.1 LiveCD: adding files

2006-05-06 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Angel Tsankov wrote: How can I put some files on the LFS Live CD? Read the README: http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/livecd/browser/tags/6.1.1-3/README -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the

Re: Section 5.8

2006-05-06 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Ken Moffat wrote: I think this is an old version of the book ? (certainly, glibc-kernheaders sounds old). I'm not familiar with the Live CDs, and slightly surprised that asm-i386 isn't there - surely the full version of whatever is being used to supply these headers [ sounds like the kernel,

Re: LFS 6.1.1: how do I log into LFS?

2006-05-03 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Chris Staub wrote: Angel Tsankov wrote: How do I log into LFS after build and reboot? You type your username and password. :D -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Using --strip-all everywhere

2006-04-22 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Byron wrote: Thanks for the info; I'll keep this in mind for future builds. It's certainly easier to use the '-s' flag than selectively stripping later and might shave some time off the builds on slower systems. FWIW, the LFS LiveCD uses '-Os -s' in its CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS, so most

Test, please ignore

2006-04-18 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Testing to various lists that were closed to non-subscribers earlier today. Please ignore. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Thank you

2006-04-08 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 06:50:56AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (a) I had the CD in hand. Which CD? The first official CD for LFS was for version 6.0. There were a few individuals that made and released LFS-based CDs before that but nothing that was actually part of the LFS project. Not that

Re: Kernel panic

2006-04-04 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
fox man wrote: note: i have boot as /dev/hda1ext3 and root as /dev/hda4 ext3 Are you specifying the root=/dev/hda4 option in your grub settings? What exactly is your grub configuration? -- JH --

Re: To Indiana LFS'ers

2006-04-02 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Eric Stout wrote: It would make large scale operations easier too. Instead of trying to figure out if the manager wanted something done 8am his time or 8am your time (or if it even matters), you would just know it has to be done at 0800hrs. I say abolish time altogether. Who needs it? It just

Re: Gentoo LiveCD

2006-03-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Nikolai wrote: Is it possible to build the base LFS system from a Gentoo livecd, fetching the packages from the Windows partition? Not really - at least, not without some major tweaking. Gentoo doesn't include dev tools on their LiveCDs. Have you tried the LFS LiveCD? -- JH --

Re: jhalf 0.2 svn question

2006-03-12 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
marco van der grient wrote: thanx for the suggestion... althoug gcc does not exist on the server (4.0.3) and changing the packages list to the correct one, it also search for a non-existing patch for groff... I also downloaded this one from a different location (patches) but this conflicts

Re: help

2006-03-11 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
himanshu pahuja wrote: [snip] it say sit cant create file /toools/lib/perl5/5.8.7 permission denied What do you do, as an experienced Linux user, whenever you get a 'Permission Denied' error? If you have met the required prerequisites for the LFS book, you should be able to figure this

Re: installing binutils

2006-03-04 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello I'm having problems installing binutils in book 6.0 I get the following error checking host system type ...i686-pc-linux-gnu checking target system type ...i686-pc-linux-gnu checking build system type ...i686-pc-linux-gnu checking for bsd compatible install

Re: swap drive / boot logging

2006-03-03 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Julien Lecomte wrote: How do I know it's mounted and used ? cat /proc/swaps cat /proc/meminfo How can I turn on logging of the boot process to a file so I can check what happens ? Must I modify the 'functions' file in /etc/rc.d/init.d to turn on boot logging or is there an easier way ?

Re: GCC3.4.1 compile error

2006-03-03 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Shivkumar Iyer wrote: I compiled LFS 5.0 long time back when I had a Debian Sarge system and a Pentium IV processor but this my first attemp with a 64-bit system. Can anyone suggest anything? http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/clfs/ -- JH --

Re: expect-5.43.0 Issues

2006-02-02 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Dan Nicholson wrote: Sorry, this is an important issue. The expect people took 5.43.0 off of their web page, and we haven't tested the newer ones. In the meantime, you can download it from here: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~randy/expect-5.43.0.tar.gz It would probably be better if we

Re: first successful boot with GRUB floppy

2006-01-31 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Josh wrote: hda is my Windows XP, without which, i couldn't have joined this mailing list or search for information online. I chose to completely preserve the MBR (and all of my first hard drive) as it is my lifeline if something goes wrong. The next task at hand is to figure out how to

Re: spawnig too fast

2006-01-31 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: Matt Darcy wrote these words on 01/31/06 09:28 CST: http://redora.redhat.com It looks like that dog in the old Jetsons cartoon typed this. What was its name, Astro? :-) Ruh roh. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ:

Re: syslog

2006-01-31 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
mrdaniel wrote: hi, i got another situation here that the following messages appeared in the boot process :- starting system log daemon ... nice: syslogd: no such file or directory starting kernel log daemon nice: klogd: no such file or directoty. we had checked and the

Re: tclsh symlink + static IP config using LiveCD

2006-01-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Monnet wrote: Ah yes, one other question: is it possible to configure the network otherwise on the LiveCD? I have a small home network, with 192.168.1.1 acting as a gateway. We're on dialup here, and the connection is shared via IP masquerading. How could I attribute a static IP

Re: errata or not

2006-01-24 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
mrdaniel wrote: [1] in ch 6.21.1, pg114 - ncurses-5.4, doing the link line :- ln -sfv libncurses.so /usr/lib/libcurses.so note that the 'n' is not present in the word after /lib. so i added the 'n' into libcurses becomes and it became libucurses. is it ok. No. libncurses.so is the real

Re: errata or not

2006-01-24 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
mrdaniel wrote: and i had already go all the way to the end of ch6, pg 190 what do i need to do to get back that link without breaking anything. Install Fedora Core. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html

Re: Book on LiveCD

2006-01-20 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Paul G Rogers wrote: Yes, I suppose so. Why so much resistance to putting a copy of the book outside in the sources directory? Isn't it trivial to do? It would certainly help users, if that's important. I still run my 486 everyday and it can't boot a CD, but it CAN copy files out.

Re: admin password for knoppix liveCD

2006-01-19 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
mrdaniel wrote: its the order of the day, will do and will come back with LFS related matters. And before you post to this list again, please read the following link: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/index.html#netiquette -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support

Re: 5.7 got there at last.

2006-01-19 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Hari wrote: PS. If this message of mine is against the majority of what this community feels, I take it back. No, it's agreed. There's always lfs-chat if you're feeling chatty. Also our channels in IRC are a little bit more informal in nature. However, if you ask for support in IRC, be

Re: The e key suddenly stopped working in 'chroot'[SOLVED]

2006-01-19 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Dan McGhee wrote: export INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc to export INPUTRC=/etc/profile :) Good one. I'm sure I've done worse. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: (no subject)

2006-01-18 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I suggest that in future releases the LiveCD also contains the book relevant for each specific release? Um, the CDs already do. Read the greeting at the initial console prompt. :) -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ:

Re: (b)lfs and wireless

2006-01-16 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Rainer Peter Feller wrote: On the other hand, it is not me who has anything to say :-) Sure it is. :) You don't have to be an editor to have your opinion count. LFS needs more of its community to speak up and voice opinions on issues like this. Thanks for the comments, Rainer. -- JH --

Re: LFS 6.1- Chapter 6 doubt

2006-01-10 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
David Lyne wrote: But... surely $LFS/sources does not exist once you've chrooted. The directory containing sources is now just /sources. I see what you're thinking, but after chrooting, unless you explicitly set LFS again, that variable is empty. So $LFS/sources should still resolve to

Re: compiling Glibc-2.3.4 LFS 6.1 Host Debian 3.1 did fail

2006-01-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Clemens HAUPT wrote: While searching and seaching I found that: Is it of any use? Seriously, you'd get more support if you didn't use attachments, or if you do, use non-compressed text attachments. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ:

Re: Building glibc in section 5.6

2006-01-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Clemens HAUPT wrote: FATAL: kernel too old make[2]: *** [/mnt/lfs/sources/glibc-build/sunrpc/xbootparam_prot.stmp] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/lfs/sources/glibc-2.3.4/sunrpc' make[1]: *** [sunrpc/others] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/lfs/sources/glibc-2.3.4' make: ***

Re: Building glibc in section 5.6

2006-01-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Clemens HAUPT wrote: Absolutly right. BUT! You can't do anything with all this nice packages, they are all of no use. One might present them to grandma, but neither oneself nor grandma can do anything with it when you don't have a LINUX Kernel not 2.6 on a single machine. The liveCD in

Re: gcc error

2006-01-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
tcp wrote: Trying to install from the livecd v. 6.1.1.3 stable version and also the 6.2 pre2 version using the ALFS script but I cannot seem to be able to get pass the binutils compiling. If I am able to get pass the binutils I get the same error when it tries to compile the glibc-2.3.4.

Re: binutils compile problem

2006-01-04 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jim Gifford wrote: Is your time on your computer ok, I've seen this happen only if the clock is skewed. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/index.html#netiquette Specifically, Trim quoted text, especially signatures. But do not trim so that it is confusing to read your reply without

Re: About chapters 6.5 and 6.6

2005-12-20 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Michiel Faber wrote: How you guys solve this? Of course i can do everything as root, but i learned; only use root when you have to man su man chroot -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above

Re: About chapters 6.5 and 6.6

2005-12-20 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Richard A Downing wrote: sudo - nice package, solves the problem of scripting su. It's not in BLFS (but should be), however it's a straight CMMI package. Yes it is. :D Recent addition. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/postlfs/sudo.html -- JH --

Re: About chapters 6.5 and 6.6

2005-12-20 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: Isn't this discussion somewhat moot (unless it is pertaining to building BLFS packages) as in LFS you are either: 1) the LFS user (no harm can be done) or 2) the root user in a chroot environment (no harm can be done). The discussion isn't about whether you *should*

Re: About chapters 6.5 and 6.6

2005-12-20 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: So, only if the root account is compromised can it be dangerous. And, if root is compromised, you're already in big trouble. Not quite. Scenario: User is given access via sudo to run all root commands but without requiring a password. User logs in to machine. User gets

Re: About chapters 6.5 and 6.6

2005-12-20 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Randy McMurchy wrote: So, because I've never needed to do it, I just naturally thought nobody else did. What a dumb thought, huh? No problem. :) I probably never would have known it either if I hadn't gotten so many requests to automate my build process for the LiveCD. -- JH --

Re: lfs optimization qury

2005-12-19 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Andrew Benton wrote: Me too! I needs them too. I also need a spellchecker that knows what I meant to say... Yeah, we all could use that. :) Hard to code though... -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html Unsubscribe:

Re: lfs optimization qury

2005-12-19 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Richard A Downing wrote: And then you'd need to decide if it was going to use a Real Language, or American. ;-) What's wrong with Armenian? You sound like you're prejumadiced. -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/faq.html

Re: missing gmp.h can't compile binutils

2005-12-18 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Sebastian Salich wrote: Hallo everyone I have some problems to compil binutils (2.15.94.0.2.2) without errors, the config.log says that gmp.h is missing so compiling binutils always fails with ar.o: In function `mri_emul': ar.c:(.text+0x23): undefined reference to `yyparse'

Re: many Chapter 6 gcc-build pch failures

2005-12-14 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Dan Nicholson wrote: Don't worry about the patch for now. If later you decide that you want to upgrade the kernel and you want your gcc to be bug free (or less buggy, maybe), you can rebuild gcc. That's perfectly safe. But it might cause a slight rash and periodic sneezing. :P -- JH --

Re: login question

2005-12-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Ryan Moszynski wrote: i recently finished my main installation. i used the lfs live cd as host and everything went smoothly. In fact so smoothly that i'm not quite ready to give up that environment just yet. I am attempting to install lynx so i can read the blfs book while actually running

Re: can LFS be built over Debian

2005-12-07 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Chandan M. C. wrote: Hai , Can LFS be built over Debian ... As Debian is not supporting kernel 2.6 , What I should do ... As we need our distro to be developed over Debian ,to be bundled with Deb packages .. I need to try LFS over Debain as a host system Is it not possible to build

Re: Error in Entering the Chroot Environment

2005-12-07 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Chandan M. C. wrote: We r getting chroot: cannot run command `/tools/bin/env': No such file or directory error Well the first place to start should be the obvious one. It says no such file or directory for /tools/bin/env. Have you tried verifying that exists? Something like 'ls -l

Re: instalation dependences

2005-12-06 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
thorsten wrote: ok, i already did a lfs once, but i want build a litle lfs, so a want remove some packages... I suggest, do a normal LFS-Install by the Book, tar it up in a secure place, and start to remove things afterwards. In this case you can always recover your system once it is messed

Re: FC4 as a host [Was: Re: file format not recognized from ld right from the start????]

2005-12-02 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Kevin Barnard wrote: I think you are right about GCC most of that I think is around GCJ (loads of fun) 1) Please don't post in HTML 2) Please don't top-post http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/index.html#netiquette -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ:

Re: Problems unpacking sources

2005-12-01 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Syòndil Boscoverde wrote: Instead, if I execute the same command ('tar -zxvf bin...tar.gzip') as root, everything goes ok. any help? thanks. This is not a LFS issue, this is a general Linux issue. The fact that you're asking for help on this point reveals that you haven't met the LFS

FC4 as a host [Was: Re: file format not recognized from ld right from the start????]

2005-12-01 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Andrew Benton wrote: Bing. You hit the nail on the head there. As Richard said, Fedora Core 4 isn't a suitable distro to build the stable version of the book. It should work OK for the development version but that may not be suitable if it's your first attempt at LFS. I've had good results

Re: grub setup problem

2005-11-30 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Jeremy Byron wrote: thorsten wrote: As far as I know, this stage1-5 is not needed. Yes it is. The book tells you to copy the necessary stage1-5 files just below the copy command for the stage 1/2 files. If you are following the book, all you need is the e2fs-stage1-5 file. If you use

Re: Errors building gcc 3.4.3

2005-11-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Matt Darcy wrote: I'd do final pass 3 - don't polute your toolchain, just your final system. But thats just a personal opinion. Ugh. Did you not just see the post I sent in reply to Chris? Please *try* to trim your posts. I like you guys, but I find your lack of trimming very annoying. --

Re: installing GRUB

2005-11-13 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
IraqiGeek wrote: Hi, I am in 8.4, making the LFS system bootable, and was wondering whether I am supposed to enter the grub shell from the chrooted filesystem, or exit from chroot and enter the grub shell??? If you want to use the version of grub you just compiled you should do it from

Re: installing GRUB

2005-11-13 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
IraqiGeek wrote: Thats what I want to do, but I cant execute root (hd0,2), where the lfs filesystem is at hda3. In fact, I can execute any root command inside grub. It keeps telling me that the selected disk doesnt exist. Sounds like you rebooted your machine and then tried entering into

Re: 6.14 GCC question

2005-11-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
rick wrote: At section 6.14 I missed performing the sed substitution. I did not catch my mistake until I had performed the configure and make. What are my options from this point? Go back to the sed substitution and start from there or do I have to begin section 6 again? Yes, that

Re: 6.14 GCC question

2005-11-09 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
rick wrote: I hadn't performed the make install, but would it be advisable to go ahead and remove the /usr/bin/gcc anyhow or is this wasted effort? If you didn't do a make install there shouldn't be a /usr/bin/gcc :) -- JH -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ:

Re: Parallel makes

2005-11-08 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
David Fix wrote: Hey folks, just wondering if, when building the LFS system, we can use parallel makes (make -j2, make -j4, etc)... I have a dual-xeon box that I'm building on, and was wondering if this would mess anything up... :) Thoughts on this? :) Dave

Re: steps to take after reboot

2005-09-19 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Albert wrote: This may not be 100% correct, but it got me past a similar rebooting problem. Near the end of section 6.2 the book says: Remember that if for any reason you stop working on the LFS system and start again later, it is important to check that these file systems are mounted

Re: Cannot build binutils

2005-09-10 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm building LFS, following the instructions of the LFS Book. I run an Mandrake 10.2 with kernel 2.6.11 and gcc 3.4.3. When trying to compile binutils (1st pass), I get an error with the following messages : in ar.o : In function mri_emul : undefined reference to

Re: ncurses cannot find libstdc++ in chapter 6.21

2005-09-05 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
Chris Staub wrote: [snipped a lot of the previous thread] You shouldn't have to symlink anything unless it tells you to in the book. If you do have to then you need to go back and figure out what's wrong before going any further. You should go back to the gcc installation in chap. 6, and

Re: 5.6 Glibc-2.3.4 Showing Error regarding kernel

2005-09-01 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 11:20:13PM +0530, Smruti Ranjan Mandal wrote: checking for kernel header at least 2.6.0... too old! configure: error: *** The available kernel headers are older than the requested *** compatible kernel version Simply upgrading the kernel should have been fine. A few

Re: Strange warnings from MCE

2005-08-31 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 02:38:13AM +0200, Michael Stather wrote: Hi, I downloaded the latest LFS liveCD and booted it. Unfortunately there are many messages like this MCE: non-fatal correctible incident found at CPU 0 which mess up the console. What does this mean and can I suppress

Re: Problems with Bash and the Letter T.

2005-08-28 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 01:44:41PM -0400, Xander Biglin wrote: Now I'm doing BLFS and just configured bash. Now it doesn't work again. I tried en_US, en_US.iso8859-1, en_US.iso8859, en_US.iso88591.. variations that I've seen before, and tried the loadkeys us after each one, but to no avail.

Re: Minor Problem with virtual terminals

2005-08-27 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 09:06:23AM -0400, Mike Clawson wrote: Hello Linux Folks, I have gotten a 6.1 system working. Had some trouble, but was eventually able to work through it. But now there is a very minor but annoying feature - tty1-6 all have a mysterious '(K' just before the login

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