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--- Comment #62 from Timur
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--- Comment #61 from Dieter ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #60)
> In any case, now QA has a reliable aid for evaluating "Add to List" bug
> reports.
I agree
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another version using unordered list instead of table
Here is another version, using
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How "Add to List" works
(In reply to Dieter from comment #0)
>For me it is very difficult to
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--- Comment #58 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
Suggest changing summary to something like:
How "continue previous numbering" / "Add to List" actually works and should
work
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--- Comment #57 from Dieter ---
I think we've reached a very specialized discussion. I'm afraid, that no new
people will join the discussion and read all (or most) comments. So my initial
question was: How should command work? Heiko gave
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--- Comment #56 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #53)
> wrong terminology creates seeming inconsistency (so the terminology is wrong).
Let me try without terminology. My interest is to highlight
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--- Comment #55 from Mike Kaganski ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #54)
> > 1. Get the topmost point of the last selected chunk;
> "topmost" means sequential position in the document.
> And this is the same as what you called
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--- Comment #54 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #51)
> There is only one rule. One and only one. And it is explained already.
Cool. Just need one point of clarification, which I asked about before.
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--- Comment #53 from Mike Kaganski ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #52)
> From a UI/UX point of view, it is inconsistent to have "Add to List"
> disabled in some cases where there is nothing to change, but not in all
> cases,
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--- Comment #52 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #50)
> and so no need to try to make it a special case.
Wasn't trying to make a special case. Only speculating a possible reason
because did not have
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--- Comment #51 from Mike Kaganski ---
Oh...
There is only one rule. One and only one. And it is explained already.
1. Get the topmost point of the last selected chunk;
2. From that point, go to the previous paragraph;
3. Check if
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--- Comment #50 from Mike Kaganski ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #49)
> But it is not so intelligent, because it also uses itself as a list,
> so it sometimes shows itself as active, when there is nothing to
>
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--- Comment #49 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #46)
> No, and actually your test 4 is the example that you ask for:
Thanks. It is tricky (impossible?) to summarize succinctly, because there are
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--- Comment #46 from Mike Kaganski ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #45)
> Probably my simple test document is too simple to be able to see the
> significance of *start* of active chunk over "cursor position".
No, and actually
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--- Comment #45 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #44)
> Let me describe the internal logic here. Maybe that would help you.
Definitely. I prefer (that word again...) theoretical knowledge over
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--- Comment #44 from Mike Kaganski ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #33)
> ---test document here ---
> Para 1 – top of page
> 1. List entry 1
> 2. List entry 2
>
> ---end of test document---
>
> Test 1
> ...
>
> Test
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--- Comment #43 from Dieter ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #42)
> Possible final version for "Add to List" help
Yes, no further comments from my side.
> Perhaps you also imagine a "guide" page, that gives some
> examples of
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Possible final version for "Add to List" help
(In reply to Dieter from comment #41)
> So
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--- Comment #41 from Dieter ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #40)
> Proposed alternative:
>
> Select paragraphs to be added to a list. Paragraphs can be in a different
> list or no list at all.
I was talking about the "target"
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--- Comment #40 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Dieter from comment #39)
> "1. Select ... added to a different list."
Because selected paragraphs do not have to be in a list, "different list" would
not always be meaningful.
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--- Comment #39 from Dieter ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #38)
> Created attachment 170533 [details]
Thank you. Two remarks:
"1. Select ... added to a different list."
After step 3: "Result: Selected paragraphs get the
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Second proposal for Help to Add to List
Here is a help page proposal, based on the analysis
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--- Comment #37 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Dieter from comment #36)
Thanks for thorough checking of my hastily written proposal, which was meant to
check whether I found a valid "simple" description (but written for
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--- Comment #36 from Dieter ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #35)
> This might make the documentation very easy.
> 1. Select paragraphs to be added to a list.
> 2. Place cursor in the list.
> 3. "Add to List"
For me behaviour is
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--- Comment #35 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #31)
> If it happens to be in the middle of a list, it simply
> happens that the closest previous paragraph-in-a-list is the previous
> paragraph that
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--- Comment #34 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #33)
> 1. Why should “continue previous numbering” be inactive in Test 1? (given
> Test 3)?
Correction: "Test 3" -> "Test 2" (because Test 2 shows that
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--- Comment #33 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
---test document here ---
Para 1 – top of page
1. List entry 1
2. List entry 2
---end of test document---
Test 1
1. Select (some part) of Para 1
2. Press Ctrl, while selecting (some
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--- Comment #32 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #31)
> It adds to the list that is the list of closest paragraph-in-a-list *prior*
> to this paragraph. If it happens to be in the middle of a list, it
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--- Comment #31 from Mike Kaganski ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #30)
> I prefer to called it ...
Heh. You just put it from feet to head, and prefer that ...
It adds to the list that is the list of closest
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--- Comment #30 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #29)
> ... which would be confusing for a paragraph that is first in a following
> list. It is already in a list - where should it be added to?
Yeah,
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--- Comment #29 from Mike Kaganski ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #27)
> I propose to change the command name from "Continue previous numbering" to
> "Add to List"
... which would be confusing for a paragraph that is first in
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--- Comment #28 from Dieter ---
+1
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--- Comment #27 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
I propose to change the command name from "Continue previous numbering" to "Add
to List"
Reasons:
1. Possible to add paragraphs:
(a) that appear prior to a list.
(b) that appear both
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--- Comment #26 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to Dieter from comment #25)
> Are all techniques desired or is there a technique, that should be changed?
Only question I see is the directional Easter egg, and we have a discussion
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--- Comment #25 from Dieter ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #24)
> So I'm the wrong person to ask about documentation.
I don't ask for documentation, but for functionality. Comment 15 describes four
different techniques how
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--- Comment #24 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to Dieter from comment #23)
> What do you think, Heiko?
It wouldn't be helpful to me because I approach the page from either the
command itself being interested in its functionality or
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--- Comment #23 from Dieter ---
Thanks again for your work. My comment:
- Is the sentence "Choose the list to get additional list items" necessary
(because you already inform how to access to the command). But if you think it
is
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proposal for initial help page about "Add to Previous List"
"Continue previous numbering"
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--- Comment #21 from Mike Kaganski ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #20)
Heh, funny to see the inconsistency, when some correct terms (outline
numbering) get replaced with "layman" terms ("chapter numbering"), and others
go in
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--- Comment #20 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #19)
> What is "ordered" and "unordered"? Do we use these terms somewhere?
bug 139667, comment 12
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--- Comment #19 from Mike Kaganski ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #17)
> Add selected paragraphs to immediately preceding ordered or unordered
> list.
What is "ordered" and "unordered"? Do we use these terms somewhere?
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--- Comment #18 from Heiko Tietze ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #17)
> Add selected paragraphs to immediately preceding ordered or unordered
> list.
No need to be too short, and "immediately preceding" is not super simple
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--- Comment #17 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
Proposal for "tooltip" for .uno:ContinueNumbering -- in connection with
renaming to "Add to Previous List"
Add selected paragraphs to immediately preceding ordered or unordered list.
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--- Comment #16 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #15)
> Note -- this is *not* an issue of DF vs. list styles
And not an issue of numbers vs. bullets either.
The directional techniques work the same with
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How to combine items from three lists with two selections
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--- Comment #14 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #13)
> making the label depending on the context involves a lot of coding
fwiw probably not much coding would be required, because a TargetURL to
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--- Comment #12 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
*Suggestion*: For non-list paragraphs, rename "Continue previous numbering" to
"Add to previous list", and rename "continue previous numbering" to "Combine
lists" for paragraphs with a list
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--- Comment #11 from Dieter ---
(In reply to Dieter from comment #6)
> I propose:
> 1. Add an icon to "Continue previous numbering"
That's bug 126689.
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--- Comment #10 from Timur ---
This needs no complication more than needed.
I see 2 issues here
1. is Continue action from Comment 3 is correct? looks so.
2. it should be in Help, just where? F1 on Continue gives missing help for
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--- Comment #9 from Dieter ---
(In reply to Timur from comment #7)
> Icon is not a proper idea, there's already a bug with drop-down proposal
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117233.
To be precise bug 117233
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--- Comment #8 from Timur ---
For tracking in UI, it's seen, click in front and all list is shaded.
Revisiting bug 36220, Help I proposed in 135895 also works here: just select
1st and numbered and it will work in step 5. Or select all
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Icon is not a proper idea, there's already a bug with drop-down proposal
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117233.
I don't see point in this bug, I just closed a few pf these bugs from
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--- Comment #6 from Dieter ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #4)
I propose:
1. Add an icon to "Continue previous numbering"
2. Make that icon visible in toolbar by default
3. Add informations about it to
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--- Comment #5 from Dieter ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #3)
> The action of "Continue previous numbering" is:
> For the paragraph where the cursor is placed, assign the list id for the
> last list that appears before this
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--- Comment #4 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Dieter from comment #0)
> because there is no documentation about that command in LO Help.
There is a mention in Writer's Guide 6.4 (p. 182, p. 266), but it seems to be
wrong.
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--- Comment #3 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> "Continue previous numbering" command works on different list styles
> and overrides the current style with the previous one.
The action of
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--- Comment #2 from Mike Kaganski ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
I suppose that UX-wise, for Benjamin (who is the main audience of DF numbering
applied through toolbar buttons, where indeed each time a new list style is
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