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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] db test VM

2011-11-03 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 10/31/2011 10:19 AM, Petr Mladek wrote:

What is your opinion, please?


Hard to tell without trying it out, I'd say.  Maybe pick some random 
test now done via testtool and see if it can be ported to 
subsequenttest's pure UNO approach and is better afterwards.



My feeling is that many people do not like testtool because it is:

+ gives random failures:
+ sleeps and waits everywhere in the test code


The root problem here probably is that in some cases appropriate 
notification channels are missing, so test code inserts little waits. 
Some other places are probably test didn't work first, inserted a 
sleep, test then worked, no idea why that should rather be analyzed fully.



+ hard to debug:
+ unclear error messaged
+ complex mapping between the elements in the testtool
   code and LO code (icons, dialogs)
+ need to run the test several times to understand what
   happens there =  quite time consuming
+ hard to maintain:
+ menu entries are accessed by the position in menu =
   new item breaks tests


On the other hand, this did find errors in the past.  ;)  (Some menus or 
drop-down lists maintained items in the order as provided by configmgr, 
relying on configmgr providing them in a specific order; after the 
configmgr rewrite, the items were in a different order, and the actions 
associated with the items no longer matched the items' text...)



IMHO, the best solution would be to involve developers into maintaining
the tests. We need some technology that they would like and accept.


Yep.  Ideally, such higher level tests should be understandable, 
writeable, and maintainable by both QA and Dev folks.  testtool is 
probably something that neither camp particularly likes.


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[Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 in LO 3.5

2011-11-25 Thread Stephan Bergmann


Hi all,

Support for Oracle's Java 7 had been enabled in Linux LO 3.5 for some 
time now (see 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=549e54fb2f8113502743c443d6deadfe648dede1), 
and I duplicated the relevant code so that it should also be enabled in 
Windows LO 3.5 today (see 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=f95052c29b076995a54b1d3f7c0becf35ebcd23f). 
 The relevant issue is 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39659 Java 1.7.0 not 
recognised.


It would be great if people could give this a try, check that (a) an 
installed Java 7 is indeed detected by LO, on both Windows and Linux, 
and (b) there are no as-yet-undiscovered problems with the combination 
of LO and Java 7, on either Windows or Linux.


Thanks a lot,
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[Libreoffice-qa] Java 7 support in LO 3.4.5 (was: [Libreoffice] minutes of tech. steering call ...)

2011-12-09 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 12/08/2011 05:19 PM, Michael Meeks wrote:

+ back-port Java 7 to 3.4 if no show-stopping regressions in B0 
(Stephan)
AA: + enable Java 7 in 3.4.5  check RC1 feedback (Stephan)


Support for Java 7 (both Linux and Windows) is now also enabled for the 
upcoming LO 3.4.5.  I just checked on Linux that a JRE 1.7.0_01 can be 
enabled on the Tools - Options... - LibreOffice - Java tab page, and 
that File - Wizards - Letter... (which uses Java) looks reasonable.


Would be great if somebody could check Java 7 more thoroughly, for both 
upcoming LO 3.4.5 and 3.5.


Thanks,
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[Libreoffice-qa] Check recent master wiki-publisher.oxt

2012-05-14 Thread Stephan Bergmann


Hi all,

As explained at the end of 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46509#c16 MediaWiki 
export broken comment 16:  But for the other differences, I do not 
know if any of them are by design or in error.  Therefore, I would 
appreciate it if somebody knowledgeable about how to operate 
wiki-publisher.oxt would check whether everything works as expected in a 
master build including the fix from comment 15, and mark this bug as 
fixed then.  If that is the case, I intend to get the fix from comment 
15 backported to libreoffice-3-5.


So, if anybody here is experienced with wiki-publisher.oxt (aka 
MediaWiki extension), it would be great if they could test its 
functionality in very recent master builds.  For example, 
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/Linux-x86_64_11-Release_Configuration/master/2012-05-13_12.41.51/master~2012-05-13_12.41.51_LibO-Dev_3.6.0alpha0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz 
apparently includes the necessary fix from bug 46509.


Thanks,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Using same User Profile with various users and / or LibO Versions

2012-06-11 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 06/10/2012 10:08 AM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

it would be great if an expert could add some brief notes on
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile concerning following
questions:

- Is it allowed/possible/useful to use the same User Profile with
more than 1 User?
- Is it allowed/useful/ to use the same User Profile with
different LibO Versions?


see 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/index.php?title=UserProfileoldid=51149


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Using same User Profile with various users and / or LibO Versions

2012-06-11 Thread Stephan Bergmann


[putting libreoffice ML back on cc]

On 06/11/2012 05:18 PM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

The facts you mentioned cause some problems for me: I often try various
Versions to find out where the Bug appeared, some of them intended with
the same profile to unify test conditions. I do not believe that it will
be a hard restriction to use all versions with their own profile, but
you never know ...


In practice, this will likely work just fine most of the time, I assume.


An other problem I see if someone decides to downgrade. Do we have to
recommend to do a backup of the existing User Profile before an update
because there might be problems after the downgrade?


* If users do not force the user profile to a non-default location, LO 
should largely be able to handle a downgrade just fine.


** If the relevant versions use different default user profile 
locations, nothing bad can happen.  (Just note that once a given user 
profile has been marked as migrated, it will not be used for migration 
again.  So any changes the user makes to the downgraded version's user 
profile will be lost should the user later upgrade again.)


** If the relevant versions use the same default user profile location, 
there *is* a chance that data stored there has changed in a 
forward-compatible but not backward-compatible way.  (I doubt anybody 
takes care to prevent that; or am I mistaken?)  In such a case, it might 
indeed be advisable to make a backup prior to downgrade.


* If a user explicitly forces the user profile to a non-default location 
and reuses it across the downgrade, then chances are things will not 
work as intended, and it is definitely advisable to make a backup (and 
even more advisable to not reuse in the first place).


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.0 RC4 test builds available

2012-07-30 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 07/29/2012 10:55 AM, khagaroth wrote:

I just installed RC4 and the bug of not starting on first run (only
the splash shows up and then nothing) is back (it was there for 3.5
and then fixed if I remember correctly).


This is an unfortunate consequence of the fix for 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51252 LO cannot start 
(reports runtime error with Visual C++ Runtime Library), see 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51252#c56 and I will see 
to get my fix for issue 43989 backported for LO 3.6.1, though.


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-09-07 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 09/06/2012 06:55 PM, Michael Stahl wrote:

On 06/09/12 17:42, Michael Meeks wrote:
i don't have an opinion whether --enable-dbgutil should by default
enable symbols or not.


First of all, note that --enable-symbols is a misnomer.  It is not 
per-se about any kind of symbols (like not stripping internal symbols on 
ELF, etc.), but rather about debugging information.  (With GCC it 
enables -g Produce debugging information 
[http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.7.1/gcc/Debugging-Options.html#Debugging-Options] 
(or -g2, -ggdb2), with MSVC it enables /Zi enable debugging 
information [cl /? output].)


My main concern for assert-enabled (i.e., --enable-dbgutil) builds is 
that if they abort, it is easy to get a decent backtrace.  For that, it 
is important that internal symbols are not stripped, but much less so 
that --enable-symbols--controlled debugging information is available.


Therefore, I have no decided opinion either on whether --enable-dbgutil 
should imply --enable-symbols by default.


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [Bug 52022] CONFIGURATION: Part of data in userdir is lost on 3.5 - 3.6 upgrade

2012-10-05 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 10/04/2012 06:09 PM, bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org wrote:

Roman Eisele mailto:b...@eikota.de changed bug 52022
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52022
WhatRemoved Added
Severitymajor   critical

*Comment # 22 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52022#c22
on bug 52022 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52022 from
Roman Eisele mailto:b...@eikota.de *

Let me be brave (or rude, just as you want to see it ;-) and change the
severity of this issue from “major” to “critical”. I know that this does not
help anything to fix a bug; and I am not a fan of setting every bug to highest
priority, either. But this bug


Hi Roman,

Bringing bugs back to developers' attention is highly appreciated, be it 
via a bugzilla mail that results from modifying the bug's severity 
(where the change of severity in itself often doesn't change anything, 
indeed) or through any other channel.  Just getting re-exposed to a bug 
report sometimes helps making that click in your head that was missing 
before...


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ToDos rename 3.7 to 4.0

2012-11-14 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 11/13/2012 07:35 PM, Thorsten Behrens wrote:

Roman Eisele wrote:

But there is a problem: at least on a quick check, I get the
impression that LOdev does NOT migrate any settings from the
/LOdev/3/user to the /LOdev/4/user/ profile -- not even the general
settings, like my user name, or the selected JRE appear in
/LOdev/4/user/ profile. It seems that the new (4) user profile is
created from scratch, without attempting to copy any data from the
old (3) user profile folder.


I Cc Stephan  Cedric, who IIRC both mentioned intention to work on
profile migration.


No, I never intended to work on user-profile migration between now and 
feature freeze.  I had merely tried to express my hope that those who 
promote this late 3.7 to 4.0 rename would have that covered on their agenda.


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ToDos rename 3.7 to 4.0

2012-11-14 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 11/14/2012 02:46 PM, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol wrote:

Am 14.11.2012 13:31, schrieb Petr Mladek:

BTW: It should work on Windows out of box.


I don't think so:


See the discussion of the MIGRATED flag file at 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57061#c5.


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-11-23 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 11/23/2012 02:37 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:

Stephan Bergmann wrote (23-11-12 14:19)


What is rather missing, IIUC, is that LOdev builds do not try to migrate
user data from existing LibreOffice builds, right?


For testing that is useful indeed.
And when one also wants to test with a fresh profile, that can be done
easily by the tester him/herself.

On the other side, we face a different problem: when an old user profile
is used, in the menu is customised, new menu items do not show up (e.g.
currently Format  Conditions ... in Calc).


...which is completely unrelated to the above, right?  (Just to make 
sure.)  And you probably filed a bug for it?


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2012-11-28 Thread Stephan Bergmann

On 11/27/2012 11:31 PM, Cor Nouws wrote:

Petr Mladek wrote (27-11-12 17:54)

We listen :-) Well, the testing can be done even with Dev builds. I
installed the daily build from
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/Linux-x86_64_11-Release-Configuration/master/current/

and did the following steps:

1. started the official libreoffice3.6, modified some settings, and
stopped it
2. removed ~/.config/libreoffice/3/MIGRATED
3. removed ~/.config/lodev/4
4. started lodev4.0

Result: Most of the setting changes were migrated.

That is clear.
Can one of you please tell me if there is a different result when one
does what you did and between manually copying the user profile to the
new versions' user directory?

You mean, rm -rf ~/.config/lodev/4 mkdir -p ~/.config/lodev cp -a
~/.config/libreoffice/3 ~/.config/lodev/4? This can be problematic for
various reasons:

* LO contains code to only selectively copy parts of an existing user
profile. One example where that is used is to drop per-user installed
instances of the Presenter Screen and PDF Import extensions (where it
was possible to have them installed per-user even though they were
already bundled), as those changed from (bundled) extensions to core
code parts in LO 4, and having them installed in both forms can lead to
trouble.

* Those parts that LO does not migrate at all might confuse it if they
appear nevertheless in a new profile (where LO would no longer write
them, say). One example is that I still plan to move the location of a
flag file from user/extensions/bundled/buildid to
user/extensions/buildid for LO 4. In this case it would be harmless if
an extra user/extensions/buildid would show up by the naive copying, but
you get the idea.

IMHO, the question is if we really need to spend resources on special
dialog or special support. Note that we do not migrate configuration
between minor releases. So this testing is needed only once every few
years.

On the other hand, also between minor release there may be differences
that interfere with the user-profile.
Therefore testing it with a new and with the existing user profile make
sense, IMO.

Indeed. One more reason why I think it is better to have QA people know
the underlying mechanisms so they can make educated decisions how to set
up their tests scenarios, than to try and have an automated mechanism
for LOdev builds.

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[Libreoffice-qa] Extension migration to LO 4 (was: minutes of ESC call ...)

2012-12-12 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 11/14/2012 09:07 AM, Stephan Bergmann wrote:

On 10/17/2012 01:14 PM, Michael Meeks wrote:

* 4.0 plans / naming / ABI stability etc. (Kendy)
+ user-installs labelled with '4'
+ migration code to do a one-shot config / setup fix.
+ can loose old back-compat code.
+ we get the berkeleydb removal as part of re-basing.


BTW, did anybody look into that berkeleydb removal code, regarding its
ability to migrate from existing user profiles (as berkeleydb files are
used in the user profile to keep track of installed extensions)?


So migration of per-user installed extensions from a pre-4 user profile 
to LO 4 appears to work fine now after 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=bd9c4510ff13ab7e935ed12c5b6d1f132c6f2b79 
Take extra cache/uno_packages/*.tmp_/*properties files into account, 
even filtering out those blacklisted via 
/org.openoffice.Setup/MigrationStep/ExcludedExtensions, with one exception:


Per-user installed extensions that had been explicitly disabled in the 
old user profile are enabled in LO 4.


To put that into perspective, the fix for 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32263 Config file 
location (first appearing in LO 3.5.0?) that required migration of 
user profiles from ~/.libreoffice/3 to ~/.config/libreoffice/3 on Linux 
appears to have had that defect too, in addition to the more severe 
defect of erratically not migrating some per-user installed extensions 
at all thanks to the problem now addressed with 
bd9c4510ff13ab7e935ed12c5b6d1f132c6f2b79 -- at least, that's my 
observation when trying to re-enact that migration with a current 
libreoffice-3-6 build.


And I see no cheap way to fix that, and am not sure it would be worth it 
to try hard.


(This sounds similar to 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57224 CONFIGURATION: 
Deactivated Extensions become active but is rather unrelated 
technically.  That issue is strictly about upgrades within a LO 3.x or 
LO 4.x series.)


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[Libreoffice-qa] Poor migration of user profiles to LO 4 (was: What are Preferences when moving from 3.x to 4.x?)

2013-02-04 Thread Stephan Bergmann


[getting the dev list into the loop]

On 02/04/2013 12:39 PM, Stephan Bergmann wrote:

On 02/01/2013 06:21 PM, Pedro wrote:

I just updated LO from 3.6.4.3 to 4.0 rc3
Thanks to the patch from Stephan Bergmann
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57061) some items are now
migrated to 4.0

Items migrated: User Data, View preferences (such as icon theme and size)
Items NOT migrated: Recent Document list, Extensions

Is this expected? Shouldn't it pick up all items so that you continue
from
where you left off?


I just updated https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57061#c27,
comment 27 to  Not all personal data imported during install from /3
User Profile, with some rationale and details.


Quoting https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57061#c27:

In general, what parts of an old user profile are migrated is 
controlled by configuration settings in the 
/org.openoffice.Setup/Migration tree (see 
officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Setup.xcu).  The data that is 
present there is apparently mostly what had been there for the migration 
from OOo 2 to OOo 3 already.  The reason why certain parts of a user 
profile had been excluded from migration back than are probably lost to 
history.


Note that this user profile migration code already kicked in on Linux 
during the LO 3 timeframe, when 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=9276f7d5740a28b342db2a9bcd8644ff2f4f5742 
'fdo#32263' moved the location of the user profile from ~/.libreoffice/3 
to ~/.config/libreoffice/3 and 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=6b522673373797bbf53d795d53e0ec45175a5d67 
'default config location has changed, look in old config dir when 
migrating' enabled LO's migration code to migrate from an existing 
~/.libreoffice/3 to a new ~/.config/libreoffice/3.


Therefore, at least my assumption would have been that that migration 
worked acceptably, or else (Linux) users would already have complained 
when upgrading from old LO 3 versions (that used ~/.libreoffice/3) to 
newer LO 3 versions (that used ~/.config/libreoffice/3) about settings 
getting lost.  However, re-checking that now, things like the list of 
recently used documents indeed were not migrated back then, either. 
Apparently nobody looked at the migration machinery in detail, whether 
it works acceptably for migrating individual settings to a new LO 4 user 
profile.


I'm not sure what our position should be on that.  Given that it didn't 
work any better in the Linux case discussed above, do we consider this 
good enough?  Or is it severe enough to consider it a blocker for 4.0.0?


In any case, I'm personally not familiar enough with the various stuff 
actually stored in the user profile (apart from the extension stuff, for 
which I checked that it should be generally covered) to judge what to do 
about it, so I would ask people who do know specifics about certain 
parts of the user profile to step in.


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Poor migration of user profiles to LO 4

2013-02-04 Thread Stephan Bergmann

On 02/04/2013 02:04 PM, Petr Mladek wrote:

Stephan Bergmann píše v Po 04. 02. 2013 v 12:54 +0100:

Quoting https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57061#c27:

In general, what parts of an old user profile are migrated is
controlled by configuration settings in the
/org.openoffice.Setup/Migration tree (see
officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Setup.xcu). The data that is
present there is apparently mostly what had been there for the migration
from OOo 2 to OOo 3 already. The reason why certain parts of a user
profile had been excluded from migration back than are probably lost to
history.

Note that this user profile migration code already kicked in on Linux
during the LO 3 timeframe, when
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=9276f7d5740a28b342db2a9bcd8644ff2f4f5742
'fdo#32263' moved the location of the user profile from ~/.libreoffice/3
to ~/.config/libreoffice/3

I'm not sure what our position should be on that. Given that it didn't
work any better in the Linux case discussed above, do we consider this
good enough? Or is it severe enough to consider it a blocker for 4.0.0?

IMHO, it is not a blocker but it would be nice to improve it in the
upcoming bugfix releases.

But note that such improvements in LO 4.0.x will only benefit users who
didn't already install LO 4.0.0.

I think that it is not a blocker because it partly works. It was good
enough for Linux in the past and I am not aware of complaining users.

I guess https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57061 qualifies
as one.

In any case, I'm personally not familiar enough with the various stuff
actually stored in the user profile (apart from the extension stuff, for
which I checked that it should be generally covered) to judge what to do
about it, so I would ask people who do know specifics about certain
parts of the user profile to step in.

Is it mostly about modifying the include/exclude parts in
officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Setup.xcu? Or do you think that
some more extensive coding is necessary, please?

I would assume that it is indeed mostly about the former.

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] What are Preferences when moving from 3.x to 4.x?

2013-02-05 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 02/04/2013 03:30 PM, Pedro wrote:

Stephan Bergmann-2 wrote

Can you be more specific about extensions not being migrated?  In
general, they should be.


I installed a Portuguese dictionary for All users under 3.6
It doesn't show up on the Extension Manager list.


Ah, extensions installed for all users are never actively migrated 
across LO upgrades.  (Technically, an extension installed for all users 
manifests itself as data added to the share/uno_packages/ directory in a 
LO installation.  So if you upgrade LO versions by installing the new 
version into the same place as the old one, it will carry any extensions 
installed for all users across.  If like on Windows however the default 
installation path for LO 3.6 is something like C:\Program 
Files\LibreOffice 3.6 while that for LO 4.0 is C:\Program 
Files\LibreOffcie 4.0, the extensions installed for all users will 
effectively get lost.  This would imply that those extensions also 
effectively got lost when upgrading from, say, LO 3.5 to LO 3.6 on 
Windows; adding András on cc about that.)


If you want any changes here (and note that behavior is highly dependent 
on installation specifics, which in turn are highly platform-specifc -- 
like what shall happen if an admin on Mac dragged a 3.6 LibreOffice.app 
to /Applications/foo and now drags a 4.0 Libreoffice.app to 
/Applications/bar?), I guess it's best to file feature requests.


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Looking for PyUno Contributor(s)

2013-02-24 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 02/22/2013 07:29 PM, Joel Madero wrote:

Several developers have told me that python and uno will be needed to
extract the data from FDO, create a spreadsheet from this data and then
create the graphs/summaries that I am hoping we can create automagically.


If I'm incorrect, please let me know what is correct - but I'm pretty
sure that someone with some PyUno skills will be needed.


Sure, for the create a spreadsheet [and] graphs/summaries part using 
LO via UNO sounds like a viable option.  (I had just been curious, 
having no real idea what exactly you wanted to achieve.)


Stephan


On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Stephan Bergmann sberg...@redhat.com
mailto:sberg...@redhat.com wrote:

On 02/20/2013 04:11 PM, Joel Madero wrote:

I am one of the members of the Quality Assurance team with
LibreOffice
and we are looking for a volunteer to work with myself designing
(and
coding) the framework to start automating our stats. It's been on my
list for much too long and I just don't have the technical know
how to
do it. If there are are users or developers who can slowly get this
accomplished it would greatly help QA as well as Marketing as
our stats
are done almost completely manually at this point, not only is
this time
consuming but it's also likely that there could be mistakes or
missing
data.


How is the above related to PyUno (i.e., the Python-UNO bridge)?


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bug Report Incorrectly Marked as NEW

2013-06-15 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 06/15/2013 02:52 PM, Florian Reisinger wrote:

Am 15.06.2013 um 14:50 schrieb Christian Lohmaier
lohmaier+libreoff...@googlemail.com:

On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:34 AM, Florian Reisinger reisi...@gmail.com wrote:

Pedro is it true, that this has changed? IMHO we had this nasty
problem once, but IMO all new bugs should be UNCONFIRMED.


Bugs reported via the BugAssistant should be UNCONFIRMED, but the
default when creating bugs on bugzilla directly unfortunately is
NEW. Users could manually change it to file it as unconfirmed, but
most don't.


Really..? That is definitely NOT the way it should be I am quite
sure that this changed recently...


Isn't the default initial state of a bug tied to the reporter's 
canconfirm permission or somesuch, NEW if you have canconfirm perm, 
UNCONFIRMED if not?


Stephan

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[Libreoffice-qa] DDE on Windows

2013-07-29 Thread Stephan Bergmann


Hi all,

Does anybody happen to know enough about DDE on Windows to be able to 
help me along with the below?


The Windows-specific SfxAppEvent_Impl (sfx2/source/appl/appdde.cxx) is 
supposed to decompose a command string into a command (Open, 
Print) plus parameters.


At least one way it is called is from DdeInternal::SvrCallback 
(svl/source/svdde/ddesvr.cxx), case XTYP_EXECUTE, - 
ImplDdeService::SysTopicExecute (sfx2/source/appl/appdde.cxx) - 
SfxApplication::DdeExecute (sfx2/source/appl/appdde.cxx), and I assume 
that command string should be decomposed according to the syntax 
described at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms648995.aspx 
WM_DDE_EXECUTE message.


However, I have doubts that the code works according to that 
specification, or else that my assumptions about the syntax for the 
SfxAppEvent_Impl input are correct.  For one, the MSDN docu specifies 
that commands are enclosed in [...], but I see no code on our side to 
strip those away.  For another, the MSDN docu specifies that multiple 
parameters are separated by commas, but again I see no code on our side 
to remove those when converting the parameters into our internal format 
(see below).  (And for a third, the MSDN docu specifies that double , 
((, )), [[, ]] in the parameters should be interpreted as single ones, 
but again I see no code on our side to do that---though that may just 
be crappy coding ignoring the gory details.)


I'm asking because with 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=787940e0ac285aa1101ca8964d252faaab3ea8c1 
fdo#54264: Fix multi-argument ApplicationEvent::TYPE_OPEN/PRINT I 
wanted to fix that code, as our internal format that multiple parameters 
need to be converted into has changed a while ago from a single string 
with parameters separated by newline characters to a vector of strings.


However, I do not know how to trigger that (Windows-specific anyway) 
code, but I would like to be able to verify that the new code works as 
intended (whether or not the old code did) before backporting this to 
libreoffice-4-0 and -4-1.


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DDE on Windows

2013-07-30 Thread Stephan Bergmann

On 07/29/2013 03:51 PM, Noel Grandin wrote:

On 2013-07-29 15:31, Stephan Bergmann wrote:

However, I do not know how to trigger that (Windows-specific anyway)
code, but I would like to be able to verify that the new code works as
intended (whether or not the old code did) before backporting this to
libreoffice-4-0 and -4-1.

Normally, those messages would be used by the Windows context menu stuff
to run commands for individual files e.g. PRINT and OPEN.

But it looks like our file associations are configured to simply exec()
a new copy of LibreOffice.

Way back in the day DDE was also used as a primitive form of
Inter-Process Communication, but that has long since been superceded by
COM/OLE.

So I'm guessing that this code is pretty dead.

So, any attempt of mine at digging deeper here went back to square one
(like, you can associate a file extension with a ddeexec command in
the Windows registry, but then need to come up with the syntax for that
command yourself anyway), so I finally decided to give up and keep the
code as is for now, with at big fat warning at
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=04f4d4bfb708ef477618fa47d5f17779f4e4cf3c
Add TODO comment expressing doubts about existing code (and got the
whole thing backported to libreoffice-4-1 towards 4.1.1).

If anybody wants to pick up from there, that would be most welcome.

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Need help in compiling and running Test cases in Libreoffice

2013-09-20 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 09/10/2013 01:50 PM, Tushar wrote:

I was trying to run some unit test cases in Libreoffice code to take an
example
core/sc/qa/extras/regression-test.cxx in a following manner :

/make -rf  CppunitTest_sc_chart_regression_test.mk
qa/extras/regression-test.cx http://regression-test.cx/x

however it is giving _make: Nothing to be done for
`qa/extras/regression-test.cxx'._


sc/CppunitTest_sc_chart_regression_test.mk is special in that it is 
commented out in sc/Module_sc.mk since 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=782c3ccb3bc608a24483a64ae6bbaebcd917ce0d 
disable chart test for now.  If it were not, the way to run that test 
would be make CppunitTest_sc_chart_regression_test (optionally 
preceded by cd sc for faster turnaround).


Moggi, is disabling that test still relevant?

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [GSOC] about:config utility a.k.a Expert Config - Weekly Report #13

2013-12-06 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 09/16/2013 07:45 AM, Efe Gürkan YALAMAN wrote:

This weeks work was implementing list datatypes to the page. It is done
right know.

So currently page works with all datatypes.(all integers, float, double,
boolean, string, list types.)


For the record, the attached test.xcd contains properties of all the 14 
different data types supported by the configuration.  Copy it into your 
LO installation's share/registry/ directory and find corresponding 
/TEST.test... entries in the Expert Configuration Page.


Stephan

?xml version=1.0?
oor:data xmlns:xs=http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema; xmlns:oor=http://openoffice.org/2001/registry;
  oor:component-schema oor:name=test oor:package=TEST
templates
  group oor:name=test
prop oor:name=boolean oor:type=xs:boolean
  valuetrue/value
/prop
prop oor:name=short oor:type=xs:short
  value-10/value
/prop
prop oor:name=int oor:type=xs:int
  value-100/value
/prop
prop oor:name=long oor:type=xs:long
  value-10/value
/prop
prop oor:name=double oor:type=xs:double
  value1.23/value
/prop
prop oor:name=string oor:type=xs:string
  valueABC/value
/prop
prop oor:name=hex oor:type=xs:hexBinary
  value0041FF/value
/prop
prop oor:name=boolean-list oor:type=oor:boolean-list
  valueittrue/ititfalse/it/value
/prop
prop oor:name=short-list oor:type=oor:short-list
  valueit-10/itit10/it/value
/prop
prop oor:name=int-list oor:type=oor:int-list
  valueit-100/itit100/it/value
/prop
prop oor:name=long-list oor:type=oor:long-list
  valueit-10/itit10/it/value
/prop
prop oor:name=double-list oor:type=oor:double-list
  valueit1.23/itit-456.789/it/value
/prop
prop oor:name=string-list oor:type=oor:string-list
  valueitABC/itit//value
/prop
prop oor:name=hex-list oor:type=oor:hexBinary-list
  valueit0041FF/itit//value
/prop
  /group
/templates
component
  set oor:name=test oor:node-type=test/
/component
  /oor:component-schema
  oor:component-data oor:name=test oor:package=TEST
node oor:name=test
  node oor:name=test/1 oor:op=replace/
/node
  /oor:component-data
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Performance issues with Template Manager

2014-01-07 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 01/07/2014 09:39 AM, Sophie wrote:

Le 07/01/2014 09:34, Alex Thurgood a écrit :

I have noticed for a while now that starting the Template Manager from
the Start Center on my own daily dev builds, which include the extra
templates takes _50_ seconds or more from clicking the Templates button
to complete display of the Template Manager.

Has anyone else noticed this ?
Are there any bug reports about it ?
Is anything being done about it ?


I assume opening the Template Manager dialog has always been slow when 
you have lots of templates (which you normally do not have, unless you 
e.g. configure --enable-extra-template; so this might just have never 
gotten much attention).



I think it's this one
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70717


I filed that issue because the re-worked start center originally 
instantiated the template data (which is what takes such a long time) 
always, even if you did not open the Template Manager.  (That is, 
displaying the start center was always unacceptably slow if you have 
lots of templates.)  That bug has since been fixed (the template data is 
now only instantiated on demand when opening the Template Manager 
dialog, when you click on the start center Templates button or choose 
File - New - Templates), but it may be OK to re-use that issue to 
track that opening the Template Manager dialog can be slow.


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[Libreoffice-qa] Test spadmin with moztrap?

2014-02-27 Thread Stephan Bergmann


Hi Sophie, all,

In the light of https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75540 
spadmin throws exception, where Linux-only spadmin tool no longer 
starts at all on LO 4.2, would moztrap be a good place to add a manual 
test to verify that spadmin at least starts up and shows a GUI?  (Which 
couldn't be easily tested programmatically.)


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Mail Attachment Bug - Needs Non Ubuntu Tester

2014-03-07 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 03/07/2014 11:33 AM, Sophie wrote:

Just for information, Mutt shows a syntax error in File
/opt/libreoffice4.1/program/../program/python-core-3.3.3/lib/codecs.py
line 1046
return {i:i for i in rng}
Syntax error: invalid syntax


That is most likely due to 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64597 Unset PYTHONPATH 
when shelling to operating system where Mutt presumably resorts to the 
system's Python, which is apparently too old to understand that syntax, 
but we erroneously force it to use LO's Python libraries.


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[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-06-26 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Participants: Stephan, Christian, Adam, Miklos, Michael S., Caolan,
  Eilidh, Cedric, Andras, Robinson, Astron

* Completed Action Items
+ invite Muthu (Michael)
+ get Board involved to listen / interact over 'titles' (Astron)

* Pending Action Items:
+ research / seek a saner access2base solution for master (Stephan)
+ ask UX advise wrt. wrench icons (revert or not ?) (Astron)
+ scripting to generate / list last week's UI changes (Cloph)
+ started
+ review crazy SfxItemPool hash speedup patch (Kendy)
+ blog about the sad realities of web plugins (Bjoern)
+ poke potential Boston Hackfest hosters again (Michael)

* GSOC Update (Cedric)
+ mid-term evaluations this week [!]: 23rd-27th June.
+ all mentors did evaluatins, all going well, Cedric keeping an
  eye on it

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 4.2.5 retrospective
+ released last Friday
+ no update check yet, tbd today (incl. 4.1 - 4.2.5)
+ 4.3.0 UI and string freeze:
+ 1 review needed after the tag for rc1
+ 4.3.0 RC2 status
+ deadline next Monday, branch-off next week
  (2 reviews req. after that)
+ Android / iOS remote
+ no pending patches
+ Late features ?
+ OpenGL pieces / status
   + impress work as well ?
+ pending GL capabilities check to avoid crashes
   + mostly affects Linux ...
+ pending various fixes for GLTF rendering.
 [ starting to be at risk ! ]
   + experimentalising 3D chart bits.
   + at risk [ Tamas to look at that ]
+ Calc performance fixes (?)
+ Writer performance fix
   + did see crashes with that on the stack (Stephan)
   + not sure if that's related
   + in 4.3 by now

* Crashtest update (Markus)
  + new result based on build from Sunday, June 15th

http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/76f0a1307f779faf4f590fefafc445c077a39f26
  + summary is available as

http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/76f0a1307f779faf4f590fefafc445c077a39f26/exportCrashes.csv

http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/76f0a1307f779faf4f590fefafc445c077a39f26/importCrash.csv

http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/76f0a1307f779faf4f590fefafc445c077a39f26/validationErrors.csv
  + memcheck results
  + thanks to the City Of Largo
  + http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/memcheck.zip
  + grep for 'Invalid' or 'conditional jump'
  + most serious already fixed
  + machine rebooted itself unhelpfully midway through... (Cloph)

* Certification Committee (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy)
 + waiting until ~September

* writerfilter / XSLT - python (Miklos)
 + started working on it, code gen via XSLT dubious,
   done via Python now

* AOO merging / regressions (Caolan/Miklos)

   The 78908 and 79158 are probably both the same problem and are due to
   the integration of Armin's stuff. I test-merged the remainder of his
   stuff and it definitely fixes 78908, but then clobbers our character
   border feature, sigh. I pushed all of that to the

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/log/?h=feature/aoo-fillattribute 
branch


+ Miklos plans to look at branch next week

* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ Paris Hackfest:
+ June 27-28th
+ please add yourself to the wiki:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Paris2014
+ 12 people listed so far
+ Boston Hackfest:
+ July 26-27th
+ 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/US_Summer_Hackfest

+ Tough to line-up mentoring devs
 + would appreciate developers via Google Hangout etc.
+ QA is happy to recruit programmers for our internal
  projects, but would like to share w/the dev team.
+ poke potential hosters again (Michael)
+ (possible) Seattle
+ Oct 25-27
+ Straw poll: Who could make these dates?
+ prolly better to ping people individually (Michael)
+ Be great to have -really- easy easy hacks for devs (Bjoern)
+ Toulouse Hackfest ...
+ Confirmed for Nov. 15-16th
+ more details: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Toulouse2014


* HackFest Box (Kendy)
+ did we get board approval for that yet ?
   + no - in the budget extensions, but no ranking yet (Michael)

* QA (Robinson)
+ Unconfirmed count ?
+ down to 972
+ Needadvice
+ Bibisected regressions still increasing ...
+ help appreciated.
+ bug hunting session last weekend starting Friday.
+ went well
+ buzilla migration (Norbert)
+ hoping we can do it in June/July timeline.
+ channel busier again now

* UX Update (Astron)
+ title resolution ?
+ team positions in the design team, took discussion to

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-17 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 10/17/2014 11:13 AM, Jan Holesovsky wrote:

* LibreOffice 4.4 bibisects repo creation (Bjoern)
 + Bjoern creating, but Robinson should take over
 + but has time for that? - bugzilla migration a priority... (Bjoern)
 + Bjoern can do that at the time of the tag, but then is traveling
 + will update the baseline to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
 + and not add to the 10GB 43all repo. Lets start a new repo with this 
release and baseline
 + we are still stuck with gcc 4.6 anyway (Stephan)
 + the old binary will still work on the 14.04 LTS (Norbert)
 + use Amazon's EC2? (Cloph)
 + can only update the baseline, and run it, nothing more (Bjoern)


Would not the best thing to do be to do bibisect builds on the release 
baseline, as is done for the TDF builds?  That way, the builds should 
work on as many machines as possible.


Stephan
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2014-10-16

2014-10-17 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 10/17/2014 12:12 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:

Then again, as per:

  
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect#Manual_setup_.28download_a_tarball.29

there are currently _no_ reports of recent build being not universal.


Fine then.  (I've no experience consuming those bibisect repos, it's 
just something that occurred to me upon reading the ESC minutes.)


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] No activity warnings - EasyHacks

2014-10-24 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 10/24/2014 11:59 AM, Jan Holesovsky wrote:

I suppose we shouldn't be sending these to EasyHacks - I guess it's
worth treating them separately :-)  Is it possible to skip EasyHacks
when sending these, please?


See Joel's Spam Apalogies sent yesterday.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 50 max bibisect repository

2015-06-03 Thread Stephan Bergmann


Putting Matthew in the loop:

On 06/03/2015 02:56 AM, Terrence Enger wrote:

I was really excited to see the 50 max bibisect repository appear on
the wiki page How to bibisect.

However, im my (chroot to) debian-sid environment, soffice.bin fails
for lack of librtmp.so.0.  debian-sid offers librtmp1 but not
librtmp0.

I am a bit surprised to meet this problem, as I have been regularly
running versions from the Linux dbgutil repository.  Hmm, then again,
the wiki page does not reveal the build platform for those versions.

I do have debian-wheezy, but it lacks the needed versions of glibc.
For reasons which have receded into the mists of time, I thought that
I cannot or do not want to install the needed glibc in wheezy.


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] daily dbgutil bibisect: Calc fails since 2015-06-05

2015-06-11 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 06/11/2015 12:14 PM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

Le 11/06/2015 09:58, Lyubomir Yotov a écrit :

I have the same issue with this on FreeBSD 10.1.
Have you managed to find a workaround?


This is now fixed for me on OSX with current master.


...so it might have been 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=2b121ad11a4e465bff94816513f6e390061aa811 
Fix Mac OS X install names of external liborcus.


Though it would be interesting to learn whether the problem still 
persists on FreeBSD.  (A similar problem with liborcus---against which 
the sc library links---has been fixed for Linux with 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=371cc81bd9ccbfbed25f810e70899c044280349e 
external/liborcus: Fix Linux RPATH, but that was more of a cosmetic 
nature and shouldn't have caused loading of the sc library to fail.)


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] No 64 bit master for Windows

2015-06-01 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 06/01/2015 08:22 AM, Robinson Tryon wrote:

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 2:03 AM, Florian Reisinger
flo...@libreoffice.org wrote:

I switched to pastebin to easify updating the daily builds download links.
I realized, that no 64-Bit master is available :/


Hmm... did we have a 64bit tinderbox running at one point?  (I don't
see one listed here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Tinderbox) I can check
w/cloph about that.


LO 5.0 Windows 64-bit builds should start to be produced now AFAIU, see 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/minutes-of-ESC-call-tp4149832p414.html.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2015-06-29 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 06/18/2015 07:04 PM, Michael Meeks wrote:

AI:  + dig out documentation on compiling SDK examples - odk/README 
(Stephan)


http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=8c30d8bbb8a0b3682160252ee065befabf613a7b 
Explain how to test SDK examples


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] minutes of ESC call ...

2015-11-02 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 11/02/2015 05:44 PM, Pedro wrote:

Are the VS2015 builds better (in some way) than those compiled with VS2013
or is it just a case of keeping up with Microsoft?


The builds are supposed to be functionally identical.  (They are done to 
ensure that development can proceed with new Microsoft toolchains.)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bibisecting: Over 1000 bibisects served!

2015-10-19 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 10/16/2015 11:40 PM, Robinson Tryon wrote:

A big thanks to everyone who's been helping us out with bibisection of
regressions, and a hearty congratulations to Terrence Enger for being
the lucky one to perform the 1000th one (and the 1001st one, too)!


A reminder when updating a bug with information about a successful 
bibisecting:  Do not only paste the commit message of the first bad 
bibisect repo commit, but:  "please [also] provide either the commit 
message of the (last good) commit in the bibisect repo directly 
preceding this [first bad] commit, or at least the URL of the bibisect 
repo (so I can determine that preceding commit myself).  (Individual 
commits in bibisect repos often correspond to a range of source commits, 
so it is always important to know that full range.)" 
()

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Using Valgrind

2015-08-27 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 08/26/2015 07:25 PM, Aleksandr P wrote:

Usually I use Valgrind with command:
$ valgrind [parameters] program

With LibreOffice another variant is possible
(https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport/Debug_Information):

$ soffice --valgrind

What is the difference between these variants? How to use valgrind
parameters with the second one?


soffice is a shell script that ultimately runs soffice.bin.  With the 
first variant, you valgrind that shell script (plus, recursively any 
children, incl. soffice.bin, depending on valgrind's --trace-children 
setting).  With the second variant, the shell script takes care to just 
valgrind the soffice.bin child (plus setting some useful default 
valgrind options and some other useful env vars; see the shell script 
for details).


Valgrind itself reads options from a VALGRIND_OPTS env var, so you can 
use that to tunnel in further options in the second case.  See the 
valgrind documentation for further details.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Dealing with Corrupt Profiles

2015-11-27 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 11/27/2015 01:55 PM, m.a.riosv wrote:

- The corruption is with registrymodifications.xcu, only renaming/deleting
this file solves the issue.

IMO, we could modify the user profile wiki page
(https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile), so the people test first
only renaming the registrymodifications.xcu, in this way they only need to
rebuild a few things, basically modified options, and user data, and all in
the Menu/Tools/Options.


but note  
"after removing registrymodifications.xcu the existing 
user/basic/dialog.xlc and scrip.xlc are overwritten and custom colors in 
user/config/standard.soc are lost"

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-Jun-17

2016-06-20 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 06/17/2016 09:31 PM, Heiko Tietze wrote:

On Freitag, 17. Juni 2016 16:13:46 CEST Stephan Bergmann wrote:

On 06/17/2016 03:47 PM, Heiko Tietze wrote:

Enhancements and proposals
+ Push extensions (Heiko)

Just to clarify: You're talking about .oxt extensions here?


If you want so, yes. Whether binary code or python script, extensions should be 
utilized in a similar ways as for Mozilla's software. I'm aware of the 
problems, beginning with the increased effort to enable external access rather 
than code directly.


Both binary code and Python scripts (and many other things) can be 
included in (.oxt) extensions.  In short, everything that is managed via 
"Tools - Extension Manager..." and everything available at 
<http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center> is such an extension.


I just asked because sometimes "extension" is used with different meanings.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-design] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-Jun-17

2016-06-17 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 06/17/2016 03:47 PM, Heiko Tietze wrote:

Enhancements and proposals
+ Push extensions (Heiko)
  + e.g. tdf#71176, tdf#91874, or color replacer, or overall paragraph 
changer etc.
  + Extensions keep the main UI clean and simple but allows to enhance the 
app for special use cases
  + Suggestion is to have a separate component/keyword in the bugtracker 
for tasks that can be enhancements
  + Find users/coders to work on extensions
  + We have a component extension (kendy), qa team should make clear what 
it is used for (Jay)
  + Would need some needDevEval before moving a bug to this component (Jay)
  + Will bring it up to ESC for pushing it to the community


Just to clarify: You're talking about .oxt extensions here?
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Possibility of monitoring LibreOffice code with SonarQube

2016-04-13 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 04/13/2016 09:51 AM, Pasqual Milvaques wrote:

The coverity scan actually is done with gcov/lcov and is quite useful as
you say, SonarQube can do code coverage analysis also by importing gcov
info (http://docs.sonarqube.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=531) so
at the end it would present the same data with another gui but it's not
clear if this could more useful than the current UI.


Coverity Scan is a tool to find programming errors via static analysis. 
 I do not know that it would also address code coverage (which is what 
gcov/lcov do).  (We do have a setup to monitor LO code coverage with 
gcov/locv, too, .)



The interesting apportation is that SonarQube can give more information
about other aspects of the project code quality, all the features are
summarized here:
http://www.sonarsource.com/products/features/


From that web site, SonarQube appears to offer a portfolio of features, 
including some means to find programming errors ("Enfore coding 
standards and eradict bugs"), presumably statically.


There are many tools to statically find programming errors, and we 
already use a variety in LO development: compiler warnings, Clang 
plugins, Coverity Scan, Cppcheck, ...


The problem with any such tool is that it typically reports many errors 
and reports false positives among them.  To be practically useful, the 
rate of errors it reports must be driven to zero (by modifying the LO 
source code, and/or by modifying the tool), to make reports about newly 
introduced errors noticeable.  That means that any false positives must 
be addressed, by either massaging the LO source code or by enhancing the 
tool.


From my own experience, doing the latter against a closed-source tool 
is a very frustrating experience.  Especially if the tool's provider is 
not very responsive (as has been the case with Coverity in my 
experience).  When there is a false positive for which you do not 
understand why it is reported by the tool, you need to massage the LO 
source code in a trial-and-error way to hopefully make the false warning 
from the tool go away.  (Which easily leaves the LO source code in a 
poorer state than it was in before.)


That is, I'm personally rather reluctant to deploy any further tool to 
find programming errors, when it is unclear whether that tool can be 
used by LO development in a way that helps more than it hurts.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2016-08-11

2016-08-17 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 08/11/2016 05:07 PM, Jan Holesovsky wrote:

* "make debug=T" doesnt build with symbols anymore (Bjoern)
+ instead "make debug=T enable_symbols=T" is needed
+ not objecting to this in principle (Bjoern)
+ in fact, I would have objections (Thorsten)
+ me too (Jan-Marek)
+ for the command line a new env var doing both might be a compromise 
(Bjoern)
+ what is the use-case, actually? (Eike)
+ want to have enable_symbols implied by debug too (Thorsten)
+ no idea what was the reason (Bjoern)
AI: + explain the reason / bring it to some ESC when Stephan is here (Stephan / 
Bjoern)
+ let's have this talk when Shephan is here


 
"'make debug=t' enables debuginfo again" should restore the expected 
behavior.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Java installation not found

2017-01-17 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 01/12/2017 12:38 PM, Denis Niblett wrote:

I am an ex Windows/Access user that recently migrated to Apple Macintosh.

LibreOffice Base seems to be the ideal replacement for Access, so I
installed it 30 minutes ago.

It reported that it needed the JRE to run so I installed that latest
version of Java and had it confirmed as the latest version.

LibreOffice Base still insisted it was not installed.

So I turned off my Mac and turned to on again. LibreOffice Base still
insists Java is not installed.

What more can I do to get it running?


Since LO 5.1, on macOS you need to install a full JDK, not just a JRE 
().


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[Libreoffice-qa] Large-scale warning fixes in Windows-only code

2016-10-17 Thread Stephan Bergmann

I finally managed to get our Clang loplugin working with clang-cl on 
Windows.  This caused lots of warnings, in Windows-only code (as the 
generic code is routinely run against the loplugin on Linux and macOS 
already), that have been fixed in a bunch of recent master commits, 
split into one commit per code module.


Many of the fixes are trivial, semi-automated ones, but some are not. 
And the likelihood of regressions is certainly non-zero in such an 
amount of changes.  However, the nature of such all-across-the-codebase 
changes makes it hard to adequately test for regressions upfront.


Hence this heads up:  If you come across any Windows-only regressions on 
master, it might be to do with this bunch of changes.  They got split 
into the following three blocks:


* 974b7fe6dfa8935a2068365e416b8d886f9d2a32 "clang-cl loplugin: sal" from 
Oct 4


* 
613213240a84327a0a72bb5ee98cc88d50c1fd0e--85876a11ceb9bf144ae8365ff3a9fedd8c363ef2 
"clang-cl loplugin: xmlsecurity--shell" from Oct 15


* 
918d85a82d6535932118247a7fb754dde9f49cd1--6d4f7734ad63998b067f50b6564639a527bf34e3 
"clang-cl loplugin: sfx2--avmedia" from Oct 16

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[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2016-11-17 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Miklos, janI, Stephan, Heiko, Christian, ohallot,Norbert, Bjoern,
  Xisco, Stefan W., Eike

* Completed Action Items:
+ tweak Xisco's script into some UX form (Heiko)
 done by Jan, some small issues still open

* Pending Action Items:
+ dig out tooling on license verification for JanI (Michael)
+ poke at MSDN licenses (Michael)
[ a friend is working on the topic ]
ongoing

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.2.4 RC1 status - Nov 29th
+ 5.3.0 Beta1 & branch - Nov 22nd - ~2 weeks time.
+ Late features:
+ misc. PDF signing / embedding bits (Miklos)
+ ODF / XFastParser merge (Michael)
+ ?
+ probably no beta2; depends on late features
+ translations pulled from pootle Mon/Tue
+ beta1 is full languages; LibreOfficeDev variant for parallel 
install

+ not string freeze yet
+ Android & iOS Remote (Cloph)
+ tinderbox breakage, fixed

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Working on new Help-content-on-a-browser (AKA HC3).
 + Implemented  in XSLT, allowing multimedia in XHP
   files (Browser only, inactive in HC2)
 + play videos, audio and embed html directly
 + Can map other media to  in HTML5.
 + Tweaks in HC3 javascript, XLST, CSS and HTML
+ Patches and cleanups in HC2
   + Use modern fonts in CSS (Adolfo Jayme)
 + don't use non-open fonts? (Heiko)
font-family: "Segoe UI", Ubuntu,Cantarell, "Noto Sans",
"DejaVu Sans", "Lucida Sans Unicode", "Helvetica Neue",
Helvetica,Tahoma,sans-serif; }
   + Rework some contents (Lera Goncharuk)
+ New contributors showing up (Christina)
+ Documentation status-quo assessment for BoD

* UX Update (Heiko)
   + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
   256(256) bugs open, 22(22) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
   + do you want the needUXEval fix in here, then I will add then
 to the script ? (jani)
  (not Draw, libO, UI though), please mail me directly with the
   changes you want.
   + Updates:
   BZ changes   1 week   1 month3 months   12 months
added 7(-4)164(-67)   802(3) 1879(14)
commented 8(2) 101(-24)   448(7) 1225(12)
  removed 1(1)  69(-11)   139(-2) 355(5)
   + top 10 contributors:
  * needsUXEval total 480 (+2)
  Draw +2, LibO -1, UI +1
  * Hot topics
+ LibreColor
  + 


+ New logo/website
  + 



* Crashtest update (Caolan, no update)
+ ?? import failure, ?? export failures
+ ?? coverity.

* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ next venues / suggestions
+ 33c3 CfP open (Bjoern):


+ FSFE will be there, we can meet up with them.
+ opportunity to do workshops there
+ poke Bjoern if you want to show up.
+ FOSDEM - confirmed dev-room (Michael)
+ 4th/5th Feb 2017 - core FOSDEM dates
+ 6th/7th Feb 2017 - Hackfest at Beta Coworking.
+ Board / infra meetings too (?)
+ CfP going out at some stage.
+ collect talks nearer the event.
+ MintForum/MintTag Hamburg 2016-11-22/23
+ 
+ 


+ anyone wants to drop in there?

* Mentoring / easyhack update (janI)
   + openhub statistics based on analysis from 2016-11-10
 1594(1594) people did in total: 443245(443245) commits in
 8280467(8280467) lines of code
 290(290) people did in 12 month: 16006(16006) commits
   + gerrit/git statistics:
   committer...   1 week 1 month  3 months 12 months
   open  24(-8)  55(-11)  61(-12)   61(-12)
reviews 296(-48)   1231(-132)   3671(-196)   17406(-31)
 merged 161(-70)790(-68)2056(-6)  8314(46)
  abandoned   8(-3)  37(-4)  131(-6)   637(-3)
commits 340(-28)   1381(-151)   3980(27) 15756(-229)
   contributor...   1 week  1 month  3 months12 months
 open  15(-5)   39(-13)  45(-8)   45(-8)
  reviews 353(-150)   1589(-266)   4126(-67)   16968(-10)
   merged  23(-3)   90(-30) 361(0)  1266(9)
abandoned   2(-2)   15(-7)   46(-2)  425(-3)
  commits  53(-13) 222(-50) 893(-98)4102(-12)
   + Distribution of people based on number of merged patches:
   Committer distribution   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
  1-5 patches 21(3)17(1)

[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-06-29 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Eike, Bjoern, Stephan, Christian, Xisco, Sophie, Olivier,
  Michael S, Bubli, Michael M

* Completed Action Items:
+ connect Thorsten to Lydia to sort out Akademy (Heiko)

* Pending Action Items:
+ build concrete, deliverable plan for live-screenshots (Olivier, 
Armin)

  [ need more time to evaluate that with Armin (Olivier) ]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.4.0 RC1
  + Jay: XP support missing due to harfbuzz? (compiles and runs, but
further tests outstanding)
  + an independant review is needed on libreoffice-5-4
  + feature pages: please update:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.4
  + three reviews next week after RC2, on the release branch
+ 5.4.0 RC2 and libreoffice-5-4-0 branch next week
+ 5.3.4 RC2 released
  + enabled for updates
+ 5.3.5 RC week after the next
+ 5.2.x
  + removed from download pages as EOL ?
  + will be removed after EOL tomorrow
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ online

* Documentation (Olivier)
 + Fixes in Help pages after translators review
  + should go to 5-4
 + More work in new help pages
 + More work in help-in-browser
 + Patch on Donation link


* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
260(260) (topicUI) bugs open, 469(469) (needsUXEval) needs to 
be evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month3 months   12 months
 added  5(0)  16(0)  37(-2) 418(-13)
 commented 34(-27)   181(-21)   524(-23)   3408(-82)
   removed  2(1)   3(2)   6(2)   43(1)
  resolved  3(-5) 17(-1) 43(-6) 244(2)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Thomas Lendo made 213 changes in 1 month, and 352 changes in 
1 year
  Philips, Yousuf made 107 changes in 1 month, and 1515 changes 
in 1 year
  Tietze, Heiko made 56 changes in 1 month, and 1611 changes in 
1 year

  Buovjaga made 27 changes in 1 month, and 364 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 22 changes in 1 month, and 591 changes 
in 1 year

  Cor Nouws made 19 changes in 1 month, and 377 changes in 1 year
  Timur made 19 changes in 1 month, and 58 changes in 1 year
  Faulí Tarazona, Xisco made 14 changes in 1 month, and 415 
changes in 1 y.

  Kevin made 13 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
  Dieter Praas made 12 changes in 1 month, and 41 changes in 1 year
+ Results from deprecated features survey published
  + 
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/06/28/results-survey-libreoffice-features/
  + Interesting comments on the blog and at G+ 
(https://plus.google.com/107566594492891737454/posts/KSLmxKCT97M?cfem=1)
challenging the survey itself but also with the explanation that 
function

is not clear (checkbox → radio button)
  + should have added question about OS being used

+ Mascot competition has been started
  + 
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/06/28/competition-libreoffice-mascot/

  + lot of feedback and pingbacks

+ Planning a survey about LibO future, what soft aspects are important
  + based on / comparable with Github http://opensourcesurvey.org/2017/
  + input needed on what would be interesting to know in addition

* Crash Testing (Michael S)
+ 10(+9) import failure, 3(+1) export failures
   + one problem in some layout of sections inside tables
   + reverted the patch for now since vmiklos is on vacation.
  + more is needed here anyway on his return (Michael)
+ oss-fuzz: ?? fuzzers active
+ coverity: ??

* Berlin German community meeting (Thorsten)
+ This weekend of June 23 → 25 – Friday → Sun.
+ Hamburg meeting on Friday as a warm-up
+ Berlin:
 + Thorsten, Eike, Heiko, Bjoern, Cloph … have been there
 + Discussions e.g. of opportunities in education
 + also: workflows in the LibreOffice community (channels, 
sources and

   sinks of work items etc. => the project pipeline)
 + in general quite positive
+ Dev representative in UX meetings? (Eike)
 + anybody to step up?
 + summarize merged UX changes, were there dev comments on 
gerrit sidestepped etc. (Bjoern)

 + Kendy used to be there (Michael M)
 + Calls: Thursday 1PM Berlin time
 + Idea to have Mike/marketing in this call? (Björn)
 + very distant subprojects (different channels etc.)
 + not really directly for external product marketing, rather 
for internal project marketing/onboarding/recruitment

 + Hard to track changes going in for non fulltime devs (Björn)
 + somebody to summarize the commits going in?
 + would that actually be useful? (Michael S)
 + Stephan not eager to do such weekly summaries
 + Mentoring person to come up with that?
 + Good idea, but unclear who’s going to do it.

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call

2018-06-13 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
Michael W., Caolan, Heiko, Olivier, Lionel, Stephan, Xisco, Drew,
Cloph

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
+ disable HSQLDB auto-migration for now except for experimental 
(Tamas B)


* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ no releases planned this week.
+ 6.0.5 – RC2 status
+ pending, no changes submitted so far
+ time until tomorrow noon to get changes in
+ 6.1.0 beta 2 status
+ 6.1 late features
+ calc threading default / fixing (Miklos)
   + ongoing – more fixes this week.
+ writer – red-lining re-factoring (Michael S)
   + doesn’t quite work yet, but want to get it into master soon
  + get it in tomorrow, and continue later to finish it
  + expect another couple of weeks until it can be enabled
in experimental mode.
   + desirable to get it into 6.1 (Thorsten)
  + have kill-switch to turn it off
   + lets get it into master & decide next week wrt. 6.1
+ Help format (Stephan)
   + various make file dependency fixes
+ Get-involved info-bar & Help/About menu (Kendy)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/55760
+ flat MIME icons (Andreas K)
   + done (Heiko)
   + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/55356/
+ Renewed the Windows certificate for another year (watch out QA).
   + everything working nicely.
+ Remotes
+ iOS remote pending Apple’s approval.
+ Android viewer
+ Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
+ some fixes in makefile (sberg, ohallot)
+ CSS improvements (Adolfo Barrientos)
+ Help pages
+ Fixes in contents for COUNTIFS (ohallot)
+ Add another collateral file (ohallot)
+ Cleanups in help files (SophiaS)
+ Guides,
+ More reviews from J. Cohen, D. Jensen.


* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
246(246) (topicUI) bugs open, 293(293) (needsUXEval) needs to 
be evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
 added  0(-2)2(-1) 20(-5)  88(-11)
 commented 13(3)46(-10)   341(-68)   1737(-75)
   removed  0(0) 0(0)   2(0)   11(0)
  resolved  1(0) 4(-1) 25(-4) 175(-2)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Tietze, Heiko made 26 changes in 1 month, and 760 changes in 
1 year
  Thomas Lendo made 13 changes in 1 month, and 349 changes in 1 
year
  Kainz, Andreas made 12 changes in 1 month, and 27 changes in 
1 year

  Xisco Faulí made 11 changes in 1 month, and 330 changes in 1 year
  Cor Nouws made 9 changes in 1 month, and 151 changes in 1 year
  Timur made 7 changes in 1 month, and 59 changes in 1 year
  Pedro made 4 changes in 1 month, and 25 changes in 1 year
  A.Holtsmark made 4 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
  Henschel, Regina made 4 changes in 1 month, and 98 changes in 
1 year

  Ilhan Yesil made 2 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
  + <300 tickets needs UX input!

  + plan to harmonize menus – up to discussion in the design meeting later
+ 
http://document-foundation-mail-archive.969070.n3.nabble.com/Menubar-td4241658.html

+ e.g. Writer https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/55505/


* Fuzz / Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 62(+50) import failures, 15(+12) export failures
+ most new are from new empty bitmap access assert, those are 
now fixed

+ 1 import, 2 exports – mst layout assert
+ 1 import failure is Bjoern refactor related
+ ~4 calc import failures with null ScPatternAttr, etc
+ ooo33510-1.sxc failure bisected to 
1e55a47e89a9d9d6cf9cb3993484022aaf2c097b tdf#62268: allow row height 
recalculation on document load, but looks innocent to me, so something 
underlying brought to the surface by that ?

+ coverity
+ 4 (+2, -13)
+ forcepoint round 7.
+ all reproducible crashes fixed
+ oss-fuzz ?? (13 outstanding, 11 minor,
  lots of font cache unreproducibles
+ but not in last two days, maybe noel rtl::Reference change 
fixed it


* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.6.2
  + 517 (last 7 days) (-30)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.7.2
  + 524 (last 7 days) (+35)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.0.3.2
  + 947 (last 7 days) (-46)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.0.4.2
  + 1961 (last 7 days) (+168)

+ MultiSalLayout::AdjustLayout(ImplLayoutArgs &)
+ not backported to 6.0.5 – pity
+ ping Tamas Bunth?

* Alpha bitmap progress (Michael)
   + … skip next time ...

* Budget ranking (Thorsten)
   + on ESC share - “Budget2018” - add your ranking.
   +

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call

2018-06-27 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Xisco, Eike, Thorsten, Heiko, Sophie, Jean-Sebastien, Michael W., 
Stephan,

  Christian

* Completed Action Items:
+ Commit access for Martin and Ilhan (Thorsten)

* Pending Action Items:
+ enable new help for tinderboxes (Christian)
+ disable HSQLDB auto-migration for now except for experimental 
(Tamas B)

   [ ongoing ]
+ Budget ranking by next week (All)

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ no releases planned this week.
+ 6.0.5 – RC2 status
+ released last week
+ update check enabled
+ 6.1.0 RC1
+ due next week
+ 6.1 late features
+ calc threading default / fixing (Michael)
   +
+ writer – red-lining re-factoring (Michael S)
   + merged and done, included in beta 2
+ Help format (Stephan/Olivier)
   +
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
+ Online
+ simplifying iOS build re translations

* Documentation (Olivier missing)
+

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
    247(247) (topicUI) bugs open, 288(288) (needsUXEval) needs to 
be evaluated

by the UXteam
    + Updates:
    BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
 added  5(0) 8(3)  22(1)   84(-3)
 commented 38(15)   68(20)    318(3) 1689(-5)
   removed  0(0) 0(0)   0(-1)  10(0)
  resolved  3(2) 6(2)  24(0)  172(0)
    + top 10 contributors:
  Buovjaga made 28 changes in 1 month, and 177 changes in 1 year
  Tietze, Heiko made 26 changes in 1 month, and 733 changes in 
1 year
  Kainz, Andreas made 15 changes in 1 month, and 34 changes in 
1 year

  Xisco Faulí made 11 changes in 1 month, and 319 changes in 1 year
  kompilainenn made 10 changes in 1 month, and 30 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 10 changes in 1 month, and 240 changes 
in 1 year

  *UNKNOWN* made 6 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
  Raal made 6 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 year
  *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
  Thomas Lendo made 5 changes in 1 month, and 263 changes in 1 year

+ nothing special at design/UX

* Fuzz / Crash Testing (Caolan on vacation)
+ 76(+64) import failure, 2(-3) export failures
+ coverity
+ ??
+ forcepoint ??
+
+ oss-fuzz ?? (?? outstanding, ?? minor)

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)

+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.6.2
  + 410 (last 7 days) (-32)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.7.2
  + 515 (last 7 days) (-13)

+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.0.3.2
  + 701 (last 7 days) (-72)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.0.4.2
  + 1751 (last 7 days) (-300)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.0.5.2
 + 316 (last 7 days) (-)
+ wait a little to see impact of new releas
* Budget ranking (Thorsten)
   + on ESC share - “Budget2018” - add your ranking.
   + please rank stuff … before next week.

* GSoC schedule (Heiko)
   + Coding: May 14 - August 6
   + please tell students to send a weekly status update.
   + Evaluation 1: June 11 – 15
   + all the students passed the first evaluation
   + most mentors good or above.
   + one ambivalent evaluation, clearly communicated & accepted.
   + Evaluation 2: July 9 – 13
   + coming up soon (Thorsten)
   + Students Submit Code and Final Evaluations: August 6 - 14
   + Mentors Submit Final Evaluations: August 14 - 21
   + Results Announced: August 22
   + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/2018

* Hackfests & Events
   + Conference - September
  + call for papers for the LibreOffice Conference still ongoing! 
(Sophie)

 + deadline: mid-July
 + Request from QA: a talk about how to interpret a Callgrind 
trace.

+ Any volunteer?
+ AI: send in proposals, everyone
   + potentially one in Bern / Switzerland - October 19th.
   + working on a Munich event October 26-28th (Thorsten)
  + an Open Gov’t meeting from the City of Munich
  + good to have a hack-fest back-to-back there.
  + moving slowly here ...

* mentoring/easyhack update
  committer...   1 week   1 month  3 months12 
months
  open   90(-9)  150(15)  161(17) 
165(18)
   reviews 1548(953)2800(1102)   5740(908) 
19079(1070)
merged  342(88) 1202(98) 3455(-17) 
13499(145)
 abandoned   27(11)   77(-71) 276(8) 
983(22)
   own commits  241(-191)   1328(-45)3657(-87) 
14024(200)
review commits   66(-44) 334(14)  949(-1) 
3249(62)
contributor...   1 week  1 month  3 months 12 
months
  open  35(-16)

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-04-30 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 26/04/18 16:36, Michael Meeks wrote:

 + create & circulate new ESC time poll & CC dev list (Heiko)
   => https://doodle.com/poll/567nszb5tfzfxue4


Even if the times in the poll are in UTC, I assume we are looking for a 
time that will float with the CET/CEST summer-time change again (as the 
current schedule does), right?

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[Libreoffice-qa] Compiler baselines (was: minutes of ESC call ...)

2018-07-24 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 19/07/18 16:50, Michael Meeks wrote:

* GCC 4.8 support no longer needed for master by City of Munich (Michael W)
 + prolly the only ones still using this vs. master.
 + 6.1 is the last one built for Ubuntu 14.04
 + new base-line is Ubuntu 18.04
 + gcc 7
 + would also require bumping base-line on TDF linux builds (Christian)
 + ideally wait for Stephan (Michael)
 + this may help wrt. C++ features, the VS 2017 upgrade didn’t much (Miklos)
 + due to older gcc baseline.
 + CentOS6 – continues until 2020, CentOS 7 til 2024 (Christian)
 + would like to build more KDE on a newer baseline (Thorsten)
 => when Stephan is back.


So what would we gain re C++11/14/17 support if we bump the current 
master (towards LO 6.2) Linux GCC baseline from 4.8.1 to, say, 7?


One limiting factor is MSVC, where---IIUC---our current baseline is VS 
2017 15.0 (aka 19.10), but many features are only available in later 
15.x (aka 19.y), see 
.  Is there any good 
reason to stick with an older version of VS 2017, or could we require 
the latest version (which appears to be 15.7 aka 19.14) or at least the 
second-latest one (15.6 aka 19.13)?


According to the feature matrix at 
, bumping to GCC 7 
and MSVC 2017 15.7 would give us almost complete C++17 support, which 
would of course be a great step forward.  Staying at MSVC 2017 15.0 
would limit that substantially.  (Clang has never been a limiting factor 
in recent years.  I didn't check now, but would assume that our 
macOS/Xcode baseline is recent enough to provide all the features.)


As an example, the relevant feature-test macros we currently have in 
config_host/config_global.h.in would be satisfied as follows:


* HAVE_CXX14_CONSTEXPR: yes (GCC 5, Clang 3.4, MSVC 19.10, "Extended 
constexpr" at ).


* HAVE_GCC_PRAGMA_OPERATOR: yes (GCC 4.3, Clang, MSVC 19.0, "C99 
preprocessor" at 
; so this 
should already be satisfied today).


* HAVE_GCC_DEPRECATED_MESSAGE: yes (GCC 4.9, Clang 3.4, MSVC 19.0, 
"[[deprecated]] attribute" at 
).


* HAVE_BROKEN_CONST_ITERATORS: yes (see "We should be able to drop the 
below check when bumping the GCC baseline to 4.9 [...]" in configure.ac).


* HAVE_GCC_ATTRIBUTE_WARN_UNUSED: yes, if we don't stick to MSVC 15.0 
(GCC 7, Clang 3.9, MSVC 19.11, "[[nodiscard]] attribute" at 
).


* HAVE_CPP_GUARANTEED_COPY_ELISION: yes, if we don't stick to MSVC 15.0 
(GCC 7, Clang 4, MSVC 19.13, "Guaranteed copy elision" at 
).


(And we would get rid of the nuisance that GCC 4.8 still required an 
explicit


  return OUString("foo")

instead of just

  return "foo";

.)

For the TDF Linux builds on CentOS 6 with Developer Toolset (where we 
currently use Deverloper Toolset 2 with GCC 4.8.2, IIUC), my 
understanding would be that Developer Toolset 7 with GCC 7 should be 
available to use instead (searching the web I found 
)?

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Issue Gallery Theme Export To Extension

2018-09-10 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 07/09/2018 21:45, Andreas Mantke wrote:

I tested the creation of a new gallery theme with LibreOffice with
version down to LibreOffice 5.1.x and the behavior seemed to be the
same. It is impossible to create gallery extensions with LibreOffice in
the way it was described in the TDF wiki and on a lot of other websites
(and in my howto too).
I tried to edit the *.sdg file that was created from the new gallery
theme, but with no success. I tried to edit the URL at the end of the
file, but that doesn't help. It is impossible to drag a graphic from the
theme (installed via extension) into a document.

Seemed to be that there has been inserted a regression.


Please file a bugzilla issue, ideally including a small example .oxt 
that demonstrates the problem.  (And report the bug ID here.)

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-04-06 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 05/04/18 16:48, Michael Meeks wrote:

* Documentation (Olivier)
 + Help pages updated /fixes (G. Kelemen. S. Horacek, buovjaga,
   D. Roscek, ohallot, atimar, A. Gelmini)
 + (on going) wiki page on direct inline help page editing in gerrit
   (thanks to D. Ostrovsky, M. Kaganski, buovjaga)
+ should make fixing typos & small updates very easily.
+ should significantly improve editing efficiency & flow.


Unfortunately, appears that none of the Gerrit/Jenkins bots will 
actually check such changes (as none of them apparently uses 
--with-help=...).  Leads to broken master that needs fixing like 
 
"Updated core".  Can we get things improved there, making sure such 
changes are actually tested before they hit master?

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of 2018-10-11 ESC call

2018-10-11 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 11/10/2018 16:31, Miklos Vajna wrote:

* Completed Action Items:
    + setup new CentOS7 baseline VM (Cloph)
  [ done for the 64bit builds, for 32bit we stick to the CentOS6 ]
  [ which means GCC requirements could be bumped to GCC 7 on master
    now; Stephan will take care ]


as discussed on FreeNode #libreoffice-dev afterwards:


Oct 11 16:58:21cloph, re GCC version, e.g. today's 
 appears to still be done with GCC 4.8?  
(seeing "export GCC_VERSION=408" in 
)
Oct 11 16:59:38that's what I meant: the jenkins buildslaves' still 
need to be updated.
Oct 11 17:01:30cloph, ah, then I misunderstood you in the call; 
please let me know once they're updated :)
Oct 11 17:05:30oh, and I didn't check whether gperf 3.0.4 is proper 
(seems it is not, still std=gnu++14)


(the last comment is re 
 
"Re: Compiler baselines": "Also saw that on CentOS 6 
gperf-3.0.3-9.1.el6.x86_64 is too old, still

emitting register keywords in C++ mode, so that our configure.ac falls
back to using -std=gnu++14 instead of -std=gnu++17.  So the relevant
machines would also need a newer gperf (e.g., built from
gperf-3.1.tar.gz sources and passed into the LO build via a GPERF=...
line in autogen.input).")
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-10-29 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 26/10/2018 10:46, Michael Meeks wrote:

+ UITest_findReplace seems particularly flaky.
+ AI: poke Raal (Xisco)


I hope 
 
"Avoid SvxSearchController::StateChanged during SvxSearchDialog 
sub-dialog" fixes that

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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of 2018-10-04 ESC call

2018-10-04 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Heiko, Kendy, Olivier, Sophie, Xisco, Andras, Miklos, Stephan, 
Caolán, Eike


* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
+ default bitergia filter for master + libreoffice-* (Christian)
[ enabled for gerrit (default) view enabled, but default git
  view needs improving with external script ]
+ disable editing for the android viewer except in alpha programme 
(Christian)

+ add screenshot builder to the sanitizer builds (Stephan)
+ add screenshot builder to basic build stats (Cloph)
+ setup new CentOS7 baseline VM (Cloph)

* Release Engineering update (Christian, Xisco)
+ as per the public wiki, time-based release plan.
+ sub-divided by major releases etc.
+ 6.0.7 RC1 – tagged on Wed
+ builds available from pre-releases soon
+ 6.1.3 RC1 - Week start Oct 8th
+ 6.2 Alpha 1
+ due in ~2 weeks. (week Oct 15th)
+ Remotes
+ no news.
+ Android viewer
+ Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Post-Tirana
+ Help contents
+ Refactor some pages to reduce L10n (ohallot)
+ Fix typos (A. Gelmini)
+ Remove obsolete Help pages on colors (buovjaga)
+ Updates in HC (Cor Nouws)
+ New Help
+ Fixed the bookmark issue for dialogs (ohallot)
+ Ongoing work on online help editor
+ Olivier on vacation next week

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
254(254) (topicUI) bugs open, 295(295) (needsUXEval) needs to 
be evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month3 months   12 months
 added  4(-10)23(-4) 40(-1)  97(-1)
 commented 45(-12)   154(-18)   377(6) 1568(8)
   removed  0(0)   1(0)   2(0)6(0)
  resolved  1(-1)  6(0)  30(1)  137(-1)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Thomas Lendo made 85 changes in 1 month, and 278 changes in 1 
year
  Tietze, Heiko made 68 changes in 1 month, and 562 changes in 
1 year
  Zolnai, Tamás made 52 changes in 1 month, and 148 changes in 
1 year
  Kainz, Andreas made 33 changes in 1 month, and 151 changes in 
1 year

  Cor Nouws made 16 changes in 1 month, and 96 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 12 changes in 1 month, and 225 changes 
in 1 year

  Xisco Faulí made 11 changes in 1 month, and 281 changes in 1 year
  kompilainenn made 11 changes in 1 month, and 44 changes in 1 year
  Drew Jensen made 9 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
  Telesto made 7 changes in 1 month, and 66 changes in 1 year
New tickets with needsUXAdvice since Sep/21:

 * Improvement of Document converter
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120006

 * Display metric units on ruler in multiples of 5 when possible (i.e., 
for certain scale + zoom levels)

   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77824

 * Non-hidden children of hidden styles appear in top level of sidebar
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119919

 * Table alignment to center does not recenter upon table resizing
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120026

 * CONFIGURATION: paragraph style sheets in in wrong language when 
using wizard

   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65259

 * Add a command line argument to LibreOffice in order to choose the 
language of the document which will be created

   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119576

 * FORMATTING Sub- and superscript format is inherited by new paragraphs
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70554

 * Disabling "Get involved" infobar in enterprise installs
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120271

 * Bulleting and numbered lists are severely broken in 5.4.3.2
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=114059

 * UI: Cursor disappears when expanding/collapsing the sidebar
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120231

  + “GetInvolved” menu items added to help menus, to appear on master 
next week


* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 1 (-3) import failure, 43(+4) export failures
  - moggi working on getting asan crashtesting working again
+ 0(-1) coverity issues
+ Google / ossfuzz: down for a while, build fixed again
  - 3 issues, 0 serious
+ ForcePoint, round 9
  - 5 writer layout issues

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.7.2
 + 536 (last 7 days) (+68)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.0.6.2
 + 1074 (last 7 days) (+237)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.0.3
 + 1581 (last 7 days) (-553)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.1.2
 + 1642 (last 7 days) (+214)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.2.1
 +

[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of 2018-09-20 ESC call

2018-09-20 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Stephan, Miklos, Caolan, Sophie, Heiko, Eike, Michael S., Kendy, 
Jan-Marek,Olivier, Thorsten, Christian


* Completed Action Items:
+ look into why people with commit access show up as contributors 
(Xisco)

+ solved according to Thorsten

* Pending Action Items:
+ default bitergia filter for master + libreoffice-* (Christian)
[ enabled for gerrit (default) view enabled, but default git
  view needs improving with external script ]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 6.0.7 – due in October
+ 6.1.2 RC1 (one release cycle)
+ tagged, building
+ due next week.
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
+ Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Help Contents
+ Fixes in Helpcontents (A. Gelmini, A. Thurgood, ohallot)
+ Mute l10n useless translations (Fitoshido)
+  New Help
+ Improvements in page CSS (Fitoshido)
+ bookmark issues fix for missing URLs from dialogs (ohallot)
+ Getting started Guide 6.0 released
+ Final cleanup (J. Weber)
+ Master document bug workaround (J. Weber)

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
246(246) (topicUI) bugs open, 287(287) (needsUXEval) needs to 
be evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months
 added  5(-4) 25(1) 36(-1)  92(-6)
 commented 34(-25)   170(5)367(-3)1549(-62)
   removed  0(0)   0(0)  1(0)8(0)
  resolved  1(-2)  7(-1)31(0)  141(-4)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Kainz, Andreas made 138 changes in 1 month, and 182 changes 
in 1 year
  Tietze, Heiko made 85 changes in 1 month, and 576 changes in 
1 year
  Thomas Lendo made 42 changes in 1 month, and 230 changes in 1 
year

  Xisco Faulí made 35 changes in 1 month, and 295 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 26 changes in 1 month, and 248 changes 
in 1 year
  Monastirsky, Maxim made 20 changes in 1 month, and 61 changes 
in 1 year

  Dieter Praas made 9 changes in 1 month, and 135 changes in 1 year
  Cor Nouws made 6 changes in 1 month, and 87 changes in 1 year
  Telesto made 6 changes in 1 month, and 68 changes in 1 year
  Benes, Luke made 5 changes in 1 month, and 19 changes in 1 year
   * Image caption, inconsistency: caption for images is now "figure" 
and no longer

 "illustration"
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119738 
(high/major)

 => revert this week unless someone takes an interest in fixing …
 + Nickson submitted a patch https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/60787/
  “[09:01]  Htietze: the commit switches the default 
caption
   so if its a new document then use figure as the category but 
if the

   document already uses illustration (i.e, pre 6.1) then make
   illustration the default category”
 + Fix hopefully forthcoming

* Master Document Internal Navigation - Open Master at Place
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119959
  + open / tbd

* When using the Copy Sheet to a different document, actions are
  grayed out when 1 sheet exists in source document
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100291
  + resolved NAB

* Provisions/strategies for Enriching the Default Dictionaries
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119898
  + resolved WFM

* Deprecate Mozilla Persona and trust in locally installed only
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119868
  + up to decide by ESC


* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 4 (-516) import failure, 39(+3) export failures
+ strange nonreproducible failures still
+ 6 coverity issues
+ Google / ossfuzz: down for a while, build fixed again
  - 6 issues, 1 serious (solved)
+ ForcePoint, round 9
  - 5 writer layout issues

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.4.7.2
 + 468 (last 7 days) (-30)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.0.5.2
 + 1026 (last 7 days) (-52)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.0.6.2
 + 837 (last 7 days) (+107)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.0.3
 + 2134 (last 7 days) (-43)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.1.2
 + 1428 (last 7 days) (-)


* Hackfests & Events
   + Conference – September 26 – 28; In-person ESC meeting (Thu, 9:30):
  + need to discuss CentOS7 ? (Thorsten)
  + compiler version bump (Stephan)
  + UX persona issue (Heiko)
  + other things ? ...
   + DINAcon - Bern / Switzerland – Hackfest ~ October 19th (Michael)
  + Michael to go + Kendy(?) - and lets see.
  + need a wiki page setup etc.
   + Munich (Thorsten)
  +

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-09-14 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 13/09/2018 16:35, Michael Meeks wrote:

* IRC channel (cloph)
+ Spam wave seems over/in control by freenode – keep +r?
+ should we keep restriction to only registered nicks.
+ up to moderators – why not just lift it for dev channel (Thorsten)


Had to enable it again now (after cloph had disabled it last night), as 
spammers started to appear again.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] How to handle spam in existing bug reports?

2019-07-29 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 29/07/2019 17:37, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
Add a tag with "spam" and announce new spammers in #libreoffice-qa chat 
so admins can ban them.


Does it take special rights to add that "spam" tag?  I had tried that 
earlier today for 
, but 
clicking "Save Changes" didn't make the tag persist.

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[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting 2019-08-01 minutes

2019-08-01 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
 + Michael S., Caolan, Sophie, Cloph, Miklos, Xisco, Eike, Stephan, 
Olivier,

   Heike

* Completed Action Items:
+ Bump LO 6.4 Java baseline from Java 6 to 8? (Stephan)
+ Remove 6.1 from the download pages (Cloph)
   [done, but still advertised as fresh vs. still, and still not 
offered by “check for update”;

=> AI: fix that (Cloph)]
+ Chase the last missing gsoc eval (Heiko)
  [all passed 2nd eval, 3rd part running now]

* Pending Action Items:
+ upgrade Android reqs to NDK19 (Kendy)
   [ patch needs pushing ]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 6.2.6 rc1
+ has been tagged
+ translations…
+ rc2 next week
+ 6.3.0 rc3
+ tagged, uploads today
+ UI freeze, 1 review needed on libreoffice-6-3 from now on
+ final RC – if it passes QA, it’ll be the final
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
+ Online

* Documentation
+ New Help
+ Helpcontent2
   + Fixes in pages (ohallot, libreofficiant, G. kelemen, A. 
Gelmini, fitoshido).

+ Google Season of Doc
   + Announcement delayed to August 6th
+ Guides
   + Calc guide is advancing,
   + Chapter/section on Statistics

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
239(239) (topicUI) bugs open, 218(218) (needsUXEval) needs to 
be evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month3 months   12 months
 added  8(1) 17(0)  38(2)   81(1)
 commented 58(16)   159(-15)   431(15)1439(13)
   removed  1(-1) 2(0)   2(0)   20(0)
  resolved  7(6) 10(3)  28(3)  134(4)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 75 changes in 1 month, and 133 changes in 1 
year

  Xisco Faulí made 35 changes in 1 month, and 277 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 33 changes in 1 month, and 227 changes 
in 1 year
  kompilainenn made 31 changes in 1 month, and 241 changes in 1 
year
  Kainz, Andreas made 30 changes in 1 month, and 213 changes in 
1 year

  Timur made 28 changes in 1 month, and 72 changes in 1 year
  Budea, Áron made 13 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 1 year
  Dieter Praas made 10 changes in 1 month, and 125 changes in 1 
year

  Cor Nouws made 10 changes in 1 month, and 117 changes in 1 year
 + New needsUXEval between Jul/26-31

  * gallery sidebar 3 columns
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126593

  * Default Font for shapes is Liberation Sans and in Text Style 
Noto Sans

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126628

  * Add LibreOffice Templates as Showroom
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126621

  * WRITER TABLE: Give option that enlarged image is cropped by 
table cell

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126610

  * Pivot Table: rename "Page Fields" to "Filter" or "Page Fields 
To Filter"

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126496

  * Arrow Style sorting after size
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126648

  * Line style presets arrangement and additional one.
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126649

  * Option “Sidebar icon size” has no Effect on Several Icons of 
the Sidebar

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126239


  * Ubuntu designers asked to (uncontroverisally) modify MIME type 
icons

a little bit for Yaru
+ https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 3(-3) import failure, 5(-6) export failures
+ maybe the new msform support?
+ Tamas Z will take a look (Miklos)
+ 52 (-84) coverity issues
+ other eyes welcome now
+ Google / ossfuzz
+ 12 issues (11 Timeouts, 1 OOM)
+ Ongoing LibreLogo woes
+ 6.2.6
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
  + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.5.2
+ (+468) 1494 1026 1100 1034 1236 1113 1274 1460 1705 1558
  + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.6.3
+ (+190) 890 700 703 776 760 571 424 293 277 215 68

  + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.2.3.2
+ (-172) 830 1002 1087 1234 1600 1645 2183 2428 2872 2401
  + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.2.4.2
+ (-626) 1707 2333 2822 2733 2615 2039 1586 929 119 0
  + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.2.5.2
+ (+1526) 2274 748 0
  + Number of crashes should get lower after fix for
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117185
   + Michael S. fixed an issue that should have a positive impact on 
these numbers


* Hackfests & Events (Sophie)
  + Dresden Hackfest (Thorsten)
+ not heard anything from EU hackfest bits
+ tentatively end of October, talking to FSFE people there
   + not

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2019-10-17

2019-10-17 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
 + Cloph, Ilmari, Sophie, Heiko, Eike, Caolan, Michael W., Xisco, 
Olivier,

   Michael S., Stephan


* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
+ Collect summary / pictures for each GSoC project (Heiko)
  [ No updates from mentors yet; probably drop if there’s no input from
mentors! ]
  + draft: https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/XyMs94pqw5T44GW
  + still looking for input from everybody (except from Kendy and 
Heiko)

  + Propose new certified developers (Kendy, Stephan, Thorsten)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 6.4 alpha: tagged yesterday, builds still running
  + branch-off is planned for mid-November
+ 6.3.3 status
  + notarization issues on macOS 10.15, not clear what the exact 
issue is

yet
+ 6.2.8 released today (last of the 8.2 line)
+ Remotes
   + Android remote: fresh release pending, incl. Building on newer SDK
+ Android viewer
   + Issue when opening any document? (Xisco)
 + Should be fixed (Cloph)
+ Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
   + Finishing touches for online Help & xapian (ohallot)
+ Helpcontent2
   + Housekeeping, after translation review (ohallot)
   + Untangling some complex help pages for macros (ohallot)
+ Google seasons of Doc
   + progressing
+ Guides
   + On going
+ OOo Developer Guide, not available in LO wiki (Ilmari)
   + Do we want to maintain it?
   + Definitively useful (Michael S.)
   + Ilmari happy to work on it to the side (esp. converting images
 to editable forms)
   + make that an EasyHack even? (Xisco)
   + more important to have a workflow how to do it than rather
 doing it quickly, as few will probably ever be updated
 (Michael S)
   + Even more useful OOo documentation (Olivier)

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
230(230) (topicUI) bugs open, 235(235) (needsUXEval) needs to 
be evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
 added  9(2) 16(-4)43(-5)  99(-1)
 commented 79(2)278(13)   806(12)2007(45)
   removed  0(0)  0(0)  0(-1)  17(0)
  resolved  7(-2)36(2) 94(5)  190(5)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 163 changes in 1 month, and 657 changes in 
1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 75 changes in 1 month, and 342 changes 
in 1 year
  Dieter Praas made 58 changes in 1 month, and 245 changes in 1 
year
  Thomas Lendo made 41 changes in 1 month, and 319 changes in 1 
year
  Kainz, Andreas made 37 changes in 1 month, and 231 changes in 
1 year

  Xisco Faulí made 33 changes in 1 month, and 324 changes in 1 year
  Cor Nouws made 25 changes in 1 month, and 159 changes in 1 year
  *UNKNOWN* made 22 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
  Roman Kuznetsov made 20 changes in 1 month, and 274 changes 
in 1 year

  *UNKNOWN* made 15 changes in 1 month, and 15 changes in 1 year

+ New tickets with needsUXEval Oct/10-17

  * Better line/paragraph numbering
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128163
  * FORMATTING: Page Number field inserts without its proper 
character style

+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128146
  * allow each deck to keep its own width in the sidebar
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128180
  * Dash type should not respect draw:style="rect" item for draw:name
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127509
  * [Sifr theme] Change Navigator's Update icon in Master document mode
(Writer)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127976
  * file Open type menu has about 175 items, please organize
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128113
  => unconfirmed, in discussion, needinfo

   -> * Mouse pointer/cursor does not change its shape over selected text
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127835
+ code pointers would be nice
  * Create Native Mac OS X Full Screen Mode
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128186
  * [Sifr theme] Create good icons for Set reminder, Header, Footer and
Headings level show icons in Navigator
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127977
   -> * WRITER TABLES: Sort warning needed or some form of protection
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128090
+ new confirmation dialog like in Calc suggested
  * Frames around dialog widgets
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125508
   -> * UI: Option to open all heading branches at once
+

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-02-27

2020-03-04 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 27/02/2020 16:54, Miklos Vajna wrote:

* Update baseline to VS2019 on master before 7.0 (Cloph)
    + Noel lists benefits on the list:
  + ASan support, faster linking, better C++ conforming
    + Did somebody tried the Asan support? (Michael S)
  + no idea yet (Stephan)
    + what patch level? (Stephan)
  + check what’s the current patch level, require that? (Miklos)

=> no objections (all)

AI: do the actual gerrit change (Stephan)


done, 
 
"Bump Windows build baseline to Visual Studio 2019 16.4"



AI: please install current VS2019 on build bots / Jenkins (Cloph, Thorsten)


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-02-27

2020-02-28 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 27/02/2020 16:54, Miklos Vajna wrote:

* Update baseline to VS2019 on master before 7.0 (Cloph)
    + Noel lists benefits on the list:
  + ASan support, faster linking, better C++ conforming
    + Did somebody tried the Asan support? (Michael S)
  + no idea yet (Stephan)
    + what patch level? (Stephan)
  + check what’s the current patch level, require that? (Miklos)

=> no objections (all)

AI: do the actual gerrit change (Stephan)


see  "Bump Windows build 
baseline to Visual Studio 2019 16.4"



AI: please install current VS2019 on build bots / Jenkins (Cloph, Thorsten)


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-01-30

2020-01-30 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 30/01/2020 16:25, Miklos Vajna wrote:

* Git hook update (Jan-Marek)

    + see proposal at 
    + drastically simplify the git commit-msg hook:
  + requires git v2.2 (from 2014)
    + hope Apple Git is new enough (Stephan)
  + will check if the relevant git builtin is there


: 
"At least my macOS 10.15.2 has /usr/bin/git reporting a version of 'git 
version 2.21.1 (Apple Git-122.3)' and which appears to indeed be new 
enough: `git commit --allow-empty -m test` keeps producing a commit 
message with a trailing Change-Id: I..."


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-01-16

2020-01-16 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 16/01/2020 16:43, Miklos Vajna wrote:

  + slaves needed “make distclean”, but slave-cleaning job doesn’t do that
    so couple builds failed because of the system updates
(unrelated to the wrapper, just happened at the same time)
    + should we change the job to do distclean? (Stephan)


 
"bin/jenkins_maintain_gits: Do `make distclean`", rolled out on tb7{5,6,9}


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[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-12-03

2020-12-03 Thread Stephan Bergmann

5(-116) 
14863(-239)
review commits  78(-104)473(-36)1147(-85) 
4848(-17)
contributor...   1 week   1 month 3 months 12 
months
  open   29(-7)   53(1)   54(2) 
56(2)
   reviews 1044(-128)   3686(94)9944(-288) 
44538(-141)
merged   35(-88) 250(-9) 513(-4) 
1800(10)
 abandoned8(-3)   42(2)   83(-17) 
437(-2)
   own commits   50(-93) 307(-10)620(16) 
2043(35)
review commits0(0) 0(0)0(0) 
0(0)

+ easyHack statistics:
   needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 3(3)   cleanup_comments 248(248)
   total 292(292)   assigned 16(16)   open 251(251)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Johnny_M made 92 patches in 1 month, and 457 patches in 1 year
  Philipp Hofer made 90 patches in 1 month, and 90 patches in 1 
year

  Dante DM made 17 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 year
  Ayhan Yalçınsoy made 10 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 
1 year
  Gökhan Özeloğlu made 7 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 
year

  Ming Hua made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
  Alain Romedenne made 4 patches in 1 month, and 130 patches in 
1 year

  Nagy Tibor made 4 patches in 1 month, and 27 patches in 1 year
  Attila Szűcs made 4 patches in 1 month, and 26 patches in 1 year
  Attila Bakos made 3 patches in 1 month, and 37 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
  Christian Lohmaier made 182 review comments in 1 month, and 
396 in 1 year
  McNamara, Caolán made 128 review comments in 1 month, and 862 
in 1 year
  Nabet, Julien made 128 review comments in 1 month, and 1456 
in 1 year
  Grandin, Noel made 124 review comments in 1 month, and 934 in 
1 year
  Olivier Hallot made 114 review comments in 1 month, and 920 
in 1 year
  Vajna, Miklos made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 766 in 
1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 80 review comments in 1asdasd month, and 
760 in 1 year
  Michael Stahl made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 1070 in 
1 year
  Németh, László made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 692 in 
1 year
  Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 64 review comments in 1 month, 
and 1228 in 1 year

+ Patches automatically abandoned:
Support shadow blur inside shadow tab preview ( Ahmad Ganzouri )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/101400

tdf#136003 states for SID_DEL_ROWS/SID_DEL_COLS should depend 
on IsEditActionAllowed ( Tomoyuki Kubota )

- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/102115

tdf#89709 Make statusbar page number/bookmarks control tooltip 
show ( Jim Raykowski )

- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/102883

Call XDesktop::terminate earlier in unit tests ( Stephan 
Bergmann )s- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/103258


tdf#136947 tweaks - No 'Emojis & Symbols' integration into LO 
macOS ( Tomofumi Yagi )

- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/103495

WIP use std::function in SvxHyphenWordDialog ( Noel Grandin )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/72294

+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged 
patch, since last report:

  Henrik Karlsson
  Ganesh Devare

* Commit Access
  + None

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
+ sleep -6 weeks

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
from:Thu Nov 26 14:57:20 2020
master linux rel  jobs:  51 ok:  47 ko:   4 fail ratio:  7.84 % 
break:   2 broken duration:12.65%
master linux dbg  jobs:  49 ok:  40 ko:   9 fail ratio: 18.37 % 
break:   6 broken duration:24.41%
master mac reljobs: 116 ok: 113 ko:   3 fail ratio:  2.59 % 
break:   1 broken duration: 0.93%
master mac dbgjobs: 118 ok: 115 ko:   3 fail ratio:  2.54 % 
break:   1 broken duration: 0.82%
master win reljobs:  64 ok:  64 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % 
break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
master win dbgjobs:  65 ok:  65 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % 
break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
master win64 dbg  jobs:  68 ok:  68 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % 
break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
master gerrit lin jobs: 618 ok: 483 ko: 112 fail ratio: 18.12% time 
for ok: mean:  22 median:  22
master gerrit plg jobs: 527 ok: 373 ko: 125 fail ratio: 23.72% time 
for ok: mean:  34 median:  33
master gerrit win jobs: 643 ok: 399 ko: 145 fail ratio: 22.55% time 
for ok: mean:  50 median:  50
master gerrit mac jobs: 614 ok: 481 ko: 113 fail ratio: 18.40% time 
for ok: mean:  28 median:  25
master androidjobs: 513 ok: 464 ko:  34 fail ratio:  6.63% time 
for ok: mean:  29 median:  19
master gerrit all jobs: 557 ok: 274 ko: 186 fail ratio: 33.39% time 
for ok: mean: 109 median:  96

   + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-12-10

2020-12-10 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
   + Stephan, Eike, Cloph, Michael W, Heiko, Caolan, Sophie, Miklos, Xisco, 
Thorsten, Michael M

* Completed Action Items:
   + 


* Pending Action Items:
   + get GSoC 2021 application kicked off until end of year (Thorsten)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 7.1 status
 + feature/UI freeze and rc1 next week
   + 7.0 status
 + 7.0.4 rc2 this week, tagged, builds are in progress
   + naming changes? (Heiko)
 + if there is a decision for a naming change, 7.1 can still have those 
changes (Cloph)
 + even if it’s in rc1, it won’t be working for translators, so not too 
important
 + or even the tag is not to be translated (Heiko)
  AI: watch the vote and restore the old change + adapt it as necessary 
(Heiko)
   + Remotes: Android, iOS
 + another version bump, with a fix for a runtime exception crash + tag
   + Android viewer

* Documentation (Olivier)
 + missing Olivier

* UX Update (Heiko)
   + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
   240(240) (topicUI) bugs open, 252(252) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
   + Updates:
   BZ changes   1 week1 month3 months12 months  
added 18(-1) 29(-4)  53(-6) 164(-8) 
commented 90(-14)   302(-19)   1002(-45)   3865(-81)
  removed  1(0)   1(-1)   9(-1)  49(-5) 
 resolved 13(4)  52(3)  151(2)  462(1)  
   + top 10 contributors:

 Heiko Tietze made 193 changes in 1 month, and 2327 changes in 1 year
 Ilmari Lauhakangas made 61 changes in 1 month, and 275 changes in 1y
 Dieter Praas made 53 changes in 1 month, and 490 changes in 1 year
 Telesto made 48 changes in 1 month, and 617 changes in 1 year
 Foote, V Stuart made 39 changes in 1 month, and 644 changes in 1 year
 Kaganski, Mike made 19 changes in 1 month, and 146 changes in 1 year
 Roman Kuznetsov made 18 changes in 1 month, and 262 changes in 1 year
 Xisco Fauli made 17 changes in 1 month, and 438 changes in 1 year
 Ming Hua made 14 changes in 1 month, and 32 changes in 1 year
 Kevin Suo made 13 changes in 1 month, and 52 changes in 1 year

  + New tickets with needsUXEval Dec/03-10

-> + tdf#138628 ClearDirectFormatting does not remove page break
 + no change vs new config option, etc.
   + tdf#138640 Page break before/after terminology kind of confusing
   + tdf#138641 Page style should be next page style in the insert page dialog
   + tdf#138642 Manual break dialog says (next) page style set to none. 
Appears to incorrect, the page layout is always based on 
a page style

   + tdf#138658 UI: Confusing categorization of the 'Hidden' feature
-> + tdf#138668 Support image format avif
 + video format used by netflix?
   + not only, it’s “AV1 Image File Format”, see 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AV1#AV1_Image_File_Format_(AVIF)

   + tdf#138676 FORMATTING - Background image in writer
   + tdf#138678 UI: Merge Format Edit Sections with Insert Section
   + tdf#138292 CHARACTER STYLES: Not possible to have two different styles
for internet link
   + tdf#134798 Experimental commands appear in Customize Dialog even 
though the experimental feature option is not selected

   + tdf#133783 FILEOPEN dialog does not show current working directory
   + tdf#138665 Visual artifact in expanded list
   + tdf#138233 Auto complete for search being counterproductive
(suggesting what I don't want to search)
   + tdf#138750 Add option to make paragraph border color same as 
paragraph default font color

   + tdf#138725 Duplicate function names in Writer's Customize Keyboard dialog
   + tdf#138767 Decoration/managing attributes for sections in editor
   + tdf#138748 Replace number format "Language" with "Locale"
   + tdf#138775 Hiding menubar is not permanent in Single or Standard T’bar UIs
   + tdf#138765 you should be able to set the size an image in Writer 
by changing its DPI

   + tdf#138758 Find and replace is too coupled between documents
   + tdf#138160 If sidebar tab is activated by an extension the minimal width 
of the tab is ignored


 +  New competition about templates started by Adfinis
+ https://adfinis.com/blog/libreoffice-template-contest-2020/
+ ran till the end of January
+ not only Impress, also Writer and Calc

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
   + 373(+361) import failure, 97(+96) export failures
 + Calc export failures, hopefully now fixed
   + 1 coverity issue
   + 13 ossfuzz issues, 2 oom, 11 timeouts

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.7.2 
    + (-179) 1232 1411 1286 944 803 568 343 0 
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.2.2 
    + (-567) 1651 2218 2409 2750 3829 5339 5103 3457 0 
   +

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2021-06-17

2021-06-17 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Caolan, Hossein, Olivier, Michael W., Heiko, Michael S., Sophie, 
Gabriel,

  Cloph, Stephan, Xisco

* Completed Action Items:
+ None

* Pending Action Items:
+ None

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.2 status
  + builds still pending (ran out of disk space)
  + 7.2 rc1 week starting July 5 (no beta2 planned)
  + late features
 + list label interop feature (Thorsten)
 +  
“editengine-columns:

   add sidebar property panel” (Mike)
   + please give feedback in Gerrit
+ 7.1 status
   + next 7.1.5 rc1 in two weeks
+ Remotes: Android, iOS
+ Android viewer

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help (no news)
+ Helpcontent2
   + Bugzilla: Solved 7; New 1; Open 249; Partial 25;
   + Refactors: Johnny_M
   + Fixes: cloph, A Gelmini, ohallot
   + new pages : A. Romedenne, R. Lima on ScriptForge
+ Guides
   + work in progress.

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
253(253) (topicUI) bugs open, 165(165) (needsUXEval) needs to 
be evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
 added  3(0)  6(-2)21(-4)  72(-5)
 commented 97(44)   294(66)   880(3) 3697(23)
   removed  3(3) 10(3) 15(1)   36(3)
  resolved 19(10)62(14)   146(6)  515(12)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 242 changes in 1 month, and 2395 changes in 
1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 89 changes in 1 month, and 637 changes 
in 1 year
  Eyal Rozenberg made 30 changes in 1 month, and 109 changes in 
1 year

  Telesto made 26 changes in 1 month, and 830 changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 24 changes in 1 month, and 187 changes in 
1 year

  BogdanB made 23 changes in 1 month, and 159 changes in 1 year
  Timur made 19 changes in 1 month, and 160 changes in 1 year
  Dieter made 17 changes in 1 month, and 408 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 16 changes in 1 month, and 367 
changes in 1 year

  Max L. made 16 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year

 + New tickets with needsUXEval Jun/10-17

  ->   [Bug 142888] UI - View menu - the same hotkeys for two items 
("Toolbars"

and "Show Tracked Changes")
  + Explicit accelerator assignment still needed? Input needed, 
please

add insights
in bugzilla.
   [Bug 142555] When inserting references to Headings, Chapter and 
Number

are redundant
   [Bug 142856] Need support for paragraphs continuing a bulleted 
paragraph

   [Bug 142857] Format painter inappropriately applies paragraph style
   [Bug 142845] Caret misplaced after Paste+Undo
   [Bug 142837] test that each menu entry is available in each 
notebookbar
   [Bug 142830] Split the current "Help" menu into three separate 
top-level

menus (instead of one) to separate help content, bug-reporting
content, and 'about' content.
   [Bug 142827] Want character width scale button+mini-dialog
   [Bug 142825] Need ability to copy with animation effects
   [Bug 142816] Automatic effect preview does not persist after crash
   [Bug 142799] 'Automatic' font color ignores table background color
being black
  ->   [Bug 126513] SHAPES: Conflict between shape in background and 
paragraph

with background color (steps in comment 5)
  + Again, input needed!

   [Bug 142788] LO should fully expose the character style implicit 
in every

paragraph style
   [Bug 142761] optimization of the ergonomics and appearance of the
 automatic filter menu


* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 18(+1) import failure, 10(+1) export failures
+ 2 coverity issues
+ 22 ossfuzz issues
 + fixed long outstanding leak
 + some more expected fixed pending successful build

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.6.2
 + (+91) 1143 1052 824 234 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.1.2.2
 + (-161) 3554 3715 4112 4696 6083 7140 8516 7429 5495 3968 2046 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.1.3.2
 + (-756) 6349 7105 6534 5427 3679 1730 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.1.4.2
 + (+1590) 1590 0
   + Resolving of 7.1.4.2 symbols missing! (but Cloph works on it)

* Mentoring/easyhack update (Hossein)
  committer...   1 week 1 month 3 months12 months
  open  93(8)  144(19) 148(-13) 156(-13)
   reviews 432(124)   1066(102)   3032(-68)3506(220)
merged 363(95)1415(55)3987(74) 4458(361)
 abandoned   9(-3)  63(-2)

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting agenda: 2021-06-17 16:00 Berlin time

2021-06-17 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 16/06/2021 16:36, Mike Kaganski wrote:

On 16.06.2021 17:09, Miklos Vajna wrote:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
 + 7.2 status


I hope that https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/117184, sidebar 
panel for the multi-column textbox feature, may be merged to 7-2 as a 
late feature, since it hasn't made it in time before 7-2 branch-off 
together with the multi-column work itself.


 "Use 
FontList::GetFirstFontMetric instead of custom iteration code" is a 
distro/collabora/cp-6.4 cherry-pick.  Is that really the Gerrit change 
you want to talk about here?


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting agenda: 2021-06-17 16:00 Berlin time

2021-06-17 Thread Stephan Bergmann

[I had meant to send the below to libreoffice@, not just to 
libreoffice-qa@:]


On 17/06/2021 13:01, Stephan Bergmann wrote:

On 16/06/2021 16:36, Mike Kaganski wrote:

On 16.06.2021 17:09, Miklos Vajna wrote:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
 + 7.2 status


I hope that https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/117184, sidebar 
panel for the multi-column textbox feature, may be merged to 7-2 as a 
late feature, since it hasn't made it in time before 7-2 branch-off 
together with the multi-column work itself.


<https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/117184> "Use 
FontList::GetFirstFontMetric instead of custom iteration code" is a 
distro/collabora/cp-6.4 cherry-pick.  Is that really the Gerrit change 
you want to talk about here?


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[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2021-08-19

2021-08-19 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Heiko, Caolan, Sophie, Gabriel, Hossein, Cloph, Olivier, Michael 
S., Eike,

  Xisco, Thorsten

* Completed Action Items:
+ None

* Pending Action Items:
+ None

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.2 status: 7.2.0 rc4 released today (one hotfix atop rc3)
+ 7.1 status: 7.1.6 rc1 yesterday
  + Windows builds pending (done by Xisco)
+ Remotes: Android, iOS
+ Android viewer

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help: no news
+ Helpcontent2
   + New pages and refactor for Calc (Rafael Lima)
   + Refactor for maintenance (johnny_M)
   + ScriptForge updates (A. Romedenne)
+ Guides
   + work as usual, progressing for 7.2 release
   + gap between code and docs is narrowing
   + other languages

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
254(254) (topicUI) bugs open, 163(163) (needsUXEval) needs to 
be evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month3 months   12 months
 added  4(-3) 24(-24)45(-15) 93(-15)
 commented 70(-11)   280(-74)   828(-13)   3544(-66)
   removed  2(2)   2(1)  11(-3)  36(2)
  resolved 13(-3) 38(1) 131(5)  512(2)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 177 changes in 1 month, and 2391 changes in 
1 year
  Roman Kuznetsov made 67 changes in 1 month, and 249 changes 
in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 66 changes in 1 month, and 436 
changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 62 changes in 1 month, and 642 changes 
in 1 year
  Faure, Jean-Baptiste made 25 changes in 1 month, and 29 
changes in 1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 25 changes in 1 month, and 47 changes 
in 1 year

  Timur made 22 changes in 1 month, and 127 changes in 1 year
  BogdanB made 20 changes in 1 month, and 175 changes in 1 year
  Robert Großkopf made 17 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes in 
1 year
  Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 15 changes in 1 month, and 43 
changes in 1 year


+ 9 new tickets with needsUXEval Aug/12-19

  + [Bug 132279] Deleting first paragraph of a document deletes 
anchored

   to object
  + [Bug 143922] UI Indicate change tracked formatting changes in
   readable format
  + [Bug 143660] Application Color Theme Name is Not Translatable
  + [Bug 142661] Since version 7.1.x.x_x64 the style sheet 
“Preformatted

   Text” cannot really be hidden anymore. (comment 11)
  + [Bug 143866] Text in document not visible preview of Print 
dialog (and
  won't be printed either) after applying highlighting (PDF 
export fine)
  + [Bug 143604] Increasing wrap space by default when inserting an 
image
  + [Bug 143856] Navigation panel should allow to move to start and 
bottom

   of document
  + [Bug 143847] Setting a DOCX to multi-page view; affecting other
   DOCX documents on file open
  + [Bug 143842] [UI] Set a configurable default export parameters for
   exporting Draw objects

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 11(+0) import failure, 7(+0) export failures
+ 5 coverity issues (+5)
+ fixes submitted
+ 16 ossfuzz issues (+3)
+ building now reliably again
+ estimate timeout is 12 hours, afl output testing was taking 6 
hours
+ afl is disabled now, using the other fuzzers, and tweaked 
config to do two builds a day
+ 
https://oss-fuzz-build-logs.storage.googleapis.com/index.html#libreoffice


* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.6.2
 + (+128) 1169 1041 890 984 1000 963 979 1143 1052 824 234 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.1.4.2
 + (-643) 2898 3541 5776 5961 4390 4278 4028 3104 1968 1590 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.1.5.2
 + (+580) 2412 1832 1718 654 0

   + 
https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/weld::CustomWidgetController::SetPointer(PointerStyle)

- https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143843
- Thanks to Caolán
   + 7.2 crash reports by next week
* Mentoring/EasyHack update (Hossein)
  committer...   1 week 1 month 3 months12 months
  open  48(-10) 88(-16)153(10)  162(10)
   reviews 498(46)1416(20)3494(250)6006(402)
merged 276(-5)1216(-46)   3971(-7) 7210(277)
 abandoned  17(-23) 88(0)  217(7)   409(15)
   own commits 214(14)1024(-31)   3110(-24)   12948(-44)
review commits  99(54) 302(-46)954(36) 4453(12)
contributor...   1 week 1 month  3 months   12 months
  open  34(0)   60(-6)   90(-3)  98(-2)
   reviews 824(-70)   2994(-184)   9012(18)   16036(626)

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2021-10-28

2021-10-28 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Caolan, Cloph, Gabriel, Hossein, Michael S., Xisco, Stephan

* Completed Action Items:
+ flip the Online update default on macOS and Windows (Cloph)

* Pending Action Items:
+ give code pointers to Hossein to filter this out [translation bugs in
  contributor stats] on the scripting side (Xisco)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.1 status: 7.1.7 rc2 this week, tagged, builds running
+ 7.2 status: 7.2.3 rc1 in 1 week
+ 7.3 alpha1: this week (no branch-off yet), rc1 around Christmas
+ Remotes: Android (has new translations, though), iOS
+ Android viewer

* Documentation (Olivier, missing)
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
256(256) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month3 months   12 months
created  11(11)   44(44) 121(121)   354(354)
commented20(20)   115(115)   429(429)   1762(1762)
resolved 2(2) 15(15) 53(53) 214(214)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Olivier Hallot made 40 changes in 1 month, and 452 changes in 
1 year

  Rafael Lima made 36 changes in 1 month, and 231 changes in 1 year
  Ross Johnson made 18 changes in 1 month, and 49 changes in 1 year
  Dieter made 13 changes in 1 month, and 135 changes in 1 year
  Rathke, Eike made 13 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes in 1 year
  Telesto made 11 changes in 1 month, and 40 changes in 1 year
  Xisco Fauli made 9 changes in 1 month, and 101 changes in 1 year
  Robert Großkopf made 8 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 
year
  Tomoyuki Kubota made 7 changes in 1 month, and 23 changes in 
1 year

  Alex Sims made 6 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko on vacation)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
256(256) (topicUI) bugs open, 159(159) (needsUXEval) needs to 
be evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month3 months   12 months
added9(7) 17(4)  33(-1) 94(5)
commented44(6)181(-20)   628(-11)   3167(-38)
removed  1(0) 2(1)   6(1)   37(1)
resolved 3(-6)27(1)  89(2)  463(-6)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 130 changes in 1 month, and 2206 changes in 
1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 75 changes in 1 month, and 595 changes 
in 1 year

  Telesto made 30 changes in 1 month, and 632 changes in 1 year
  Roman Kuznetsov made 29 changes in 1 month, and 237 changes 
in 1 year

  Dieter made 23 changes in 1 month, and 288 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 10 changes in 1 month, and 382 
changes in 1 year

  Xisco Fauli made 10 changes in 1 month, and 176 changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 9 changes in 1 month, and 160 changes in 
1 year

  Timur made 8 changes in 1 month, and 120 changes in 1 year
  Kevin Suo made 7 changes in 1 month, and 22 changes in 1 year

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 7(+0) import failure, 4(+0) export failures
+ 1 coverity issue
 quikee is having a look
+ 5 ossfuzz issues
  - 5 Timeouts, 4 are true hangs

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.1.6.2
 + (+129) 1145 1016 930 906 650 210 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.2.1.2
 + (-241) 1827 2068 2209 2042 1450 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.2.2.2
 + (+382) 1134 752 0

* Mentoring/EasyHack update (Hossein)
committer...  1 week 1 month 3 months12 months
  open161(107)   194(22) 247(21) 292(19)
  reviews 382(50)1274(6) 3636(30)8478(202)
  merged  292(52)1209(44)3656(64)10062(331)
  abandoned   12(3)  46(6)   170(-4) 510(11)
  own commits 210(-10)   962(-35)2992(-44)   12666(-24)
  review commits  85(35) 287(40) 913(17) 4295(-8)
contributor...1 week 1 month 3 months12 months
  open34(2)  69(-3)  132(-3) 169(-3)
  reviews 710(32)2848(52)8360(128)   22194(660)
  merged  26(-1) 131(3)  358(16) 913(31)
  abandoned   0(-4)  41(-5)  125(-3) 320(-1)
  own commits 38(24) 107(27) 328(24) 1940(-11)
  review commits  0(0)   0(0)0(0)0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
   needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 274(274)
   total 328(328)   assigned 26(26)   open 274(274)
+ will probably add 2–3 new easy hacks next week
+ working with mentees
+ top 10 contributors:
  Johnny_M made 50 patches in 1 month, and 751 patches in 1 year
  Ross Johnson made 10 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year
  Srebotnjak, Martin made 6 patches in 1 month,

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2022-04-14

2022-04-14 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ sberg, Heiko, caolan, erAck, Gabriel, michaelw, mst, Hossein, 
Thorsten, OHallot, Lubos


* Completed Action Items:
+ add configure warning if MSVC version is older than 16.11 (Hossein)
+ take the updated ESC composition proposal from 2022-04-07 to the 
board (Kendy)


* Pending Action Items:
+ None

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.4 status: feature freeze in June
+ 7.3 status: 7.3.3 rc1
   + tagged, on mirrors
+ 7.2 status: 7.2.7 rc1
   + in one week
+ Remotes: Android, iOS
+ Android viewer
+ issue with odd link-error on Windows ARM tinderbox (Thorsten)
   + updated to latest compiler version, but still failing
   + neither an incremental build, unclear what's the cause
   + will try other boxes whether they fail the same (Cloph)

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
   + no news
+ Helcontents
   + Updates and fixes (ohallot, fitoshido)

+ Google Seasons of Doc
   + Response in April 14
  + later today
+ Guides
   + Work in progress for Impress and Draw 7.3 (P. Schofield)
   + WIP for Base Guide 7.3 (S. Fanning, Dev, ohallot, flywire)
   + Export HTML of Spanish guide in progress
+ general
   + Testing Discourse forum for Documentation (thx Sophie & Guilhem)
   https://communitytest.documentfoundation.org/c/documentation/8

+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
218(218) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
   created 36(23)   58(24)117(5)  333(10)
 commented 23(12)   75(7) 324(-24)   1458(4)
  resolved 26(19)   36(19) 69(12) 233(25)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Olivier Hallot made 80 changes in 1 month, and 555 changes in 
1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 37 changes in 1 month, and 82 changes in 1 
year

  Dieter made 16 changes in 1 month, and 116 changes in 1 year
  Alain Romedenne made 8 changes in 1 month, and 33 changes in 
1 year
  Nabet, Julien made 7 changes in 1 month, and 73 changes in 1 
year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 5 changes in 1 month, and 111 changes 
in 1 year

  Heiko Tietze made 4 changes in 1 month, and 87 changes in 1 year
  steve -_- made 4 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
  Telesto made 4 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
  Xisco Fauli made 4 changes in 1 month, and 83 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
268(268) (topicUI) bugs open, 91(91) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month3 months   12 months
 added  9(-12)24(0)  36(0)   61(-2)
 commented 91(11)218(-15)   677(27)2639(-80)
   removed  2(2)   5(1)  16(2)   36(0)
  resolved  8(0)  28(2) 103(1)  393(-14)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 225 changes in 1 month, and 1975 changes in 
1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 55 changes in 1 month, and 293 
changes in 1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 40 changes in 1 month, and 99 changes in 1 
year
  Roman Kuznetsov made 31 changes in 1 month, and 218 changes 
in 1 year
  Eyal Rozenberg made 31 changes in 1 month, and 118 changes in 
1 year

  Telesto made 24 changes in 1 month, and 274 changes in 1 year
  Dieter made 19 changes in 1 month, and 234 changes in 1 year
  Robert Großkopf made 13 changes in 1 month, and 28 changes in 
1 year

  Cor Nouws made 12 changes in 1 month, and 37 changes in 1 year
  Timur made 12 changes in 1 month, and 125 changes in 1 year
   + 23 new tickets with needsUXEval Apr/07-14
   + [Bug 148593] "Left page border" and "right page border" options 
for Horizontal
  "to" position in Position and Size for shapes are misleading 
names, which

  should be changed
   + [Bug 148272] Cross-reference to numbering wrongly includes 
separator character
   + [Bug 148591] Rename "page text area top" and "page text area 
bottom" to "Above

  (or Below) page text area
   + [Bug 148568] Rework the Sparklines dialog
-> + [Bug 86297] Wrong Field reference when heading is in a frame
 + interesting abuse of frames to misplace outlines
   + [Bug 71991] FORMATTING: arrow end default sizes incoherent with 
"Synchronize

  end" checked by default
   + [Bug 148533] Selecting an Arrow Style in Arrow Styles tab changes 
the arrow style

  of a selected line
-> + [Bug 148523] Table properties changes only a cell in Impress (full 
table expected)
 + Writer smart-selects the unformatted cells and proposal is to do 
the same for

   Draw/Impress
   + [Bug 148519] Change "Margin" to "Entire Frame" in "to" field for 
Vertical Position

  when anchoring "To frame" in Position and Shape tab

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-10-26

2023-10-27 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 10/27/23 10:39, Noel Grandin wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 at 16:34, Miklos Vajna > wrote:


       26 Killed by the kill-wrapper   
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil

       28 UITest_sw_navigator                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      + in terms of test failures, unfortunately again high number
of killed jobs + sw_navigator failures
      + apart from that, looks good
      + sw_navigator, changed to avoid oneprocess mode (Xisco)
        + restored some lost asserts
        + it seems it's still problematic
        + it's problematic for a different reason (Stephan)
          + fixed several tests on the Python side
          + Noel tried to fix it on the vcl side yesterday + today
          + suggest to not revert anything for now
          + it's a timer problem, if it's slow enough, then
use-after-free happens


Unfortunately, even after my fix to avoid the use-after-free, and my fix 
to avoid the timer problem, at least one of those navigator tests is 
__still__ flakey and triggering a "Killed by the kill-wrapper"


Do you refer to 
, which 
apparently hung at



File 
"/home/tdf/lode/jenkins/workspace/lo_tb_master_linux_dbg/sw/qa/uitest/navigator/tdf154521.py",
 line 158, in test_query_selected_bookmark


Which is not something that had directly been covered by my 
use-after-free fixes and your ensuing fixes, so I had figured that is 
maybe a different problem that would need a different kind of fix anyway.

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting agenda: 2023-11-01 16:00 CET

2023-11-01 Thread Stephan Bergmann


Hi,

The prototype agenda is below. Extra items are appreciated either in
this document or as a reply to this mail:

https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/esc

You can join using Jitsi here:

https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/esc

Regards,

Stephan

---

* Present:
+

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
+ Set up a daily tinderbox for the python-based windows installer 
(Cloph)

  [ hope to get to it in a week ]

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.6 status: 7.6.3 rc1 this week(?)
+ 7.5 status: 7.5.8 (?)
+ 24.2: end of Nov, in week 47, first alpha

* Ask from the board (Thorsten)
+ The Android viewer in version 7.6 has been published on F-Droid
  since a while, with good quality.
+ The board is asking the ESC, if:
   * with the release of LibreOffice 7.6.3 end of November
   * publishing the Android Viewer again on the Google PlayStore
   * would be met with approval?

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
272(272) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
   created  7(2)19(-6) 53(-8) 291(-1)
 commented 13(4)44(-3)162(-20)   1076(-4)
  resolved  3(3) 5(0)  21(-2) 157(1)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 13 changes in 1 month, and 132 
changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 11 changes in 1 month, and 80 changes in 
1 year
  Olivier Hallot made 11 changes in 1 month, and 432 changes in 
1 year
  Heiko Tietze made 10 changes in 1 month, and 117 changes in 1 
year
  Seth Chaiklin made 10 changes in 1 month, and 316 changes in 
1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 7 changes in 1 month, and 355 changes 
in 1 year

  Xisco Fauli made 4 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
  aswath t made 2 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
  Rathke, Eike made 2 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
  Jérôme made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
253(253) (topicUI) bugs open, 57(57) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months
 added  8(1)  16(-1)19(0)   40(0)
 commented 56(-13)   195(12)   450(22)2240(28)
   removed  0(0)   2(0)  3(0)   20(1)
  resolved  8(-1) 30(3) 88(4)  336(8)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 124 changes in 1 month, and 1417 changes in 
1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 122 changes in 1 month, and 594 changes 
in 1 year
  Eyal Rozenberg made 28 changes in 1 month, and 252 changes in 
1 year

  Justin Luth made 25 changes in 1 month, and 120 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 23 changes in 1 month, and 237 
changes in 1 year

  m.a.riosv made 21 changes in 1 month, and 94 changes in 1 year
  Balazs Varga made 16 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
  Amin Irgaliev made 14 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 
year

  Bogdan B made 13 changes in 1 month, and 116 changes in 1 year
  Dieter made 12 changes in 1 month, and 236 changes in 1 year

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 9(+0) import failure, 0(+0) export failures
+ ??? coverity issues
+ Google / ossfuzz: ?? fuzzers active now

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ 7.5.6.22984(+310)
+ 7.5.7.12832(+877)
+ 7.6.0.2111(+0)
+ 7.6.0.314790(+939)
+ 7.6.1.27382(+604)
+ 7.6.2.110497(+3214)

* Mentoring (Hossein)
  committer...   1 week 1 month 3 months   12 months
  open 123(19) 201(60) 202(30) 202(4)
   reviews 448(40)1302(148)   3320(30)   11822(130)
merged 272(-22)   1087(39)2990(9)12824(12)
 abandoned  23(10)  64(16) 176(15) 659(12)
   own commits 195(-37)800(34)2105(23)9683(-24)
review commits  62(14) 236(15) 617(12)3019(18)
contributor...   1 week1 month 3 months12 months
  open 120(51)171(73) 173(51)  174(35)
   reviews 938(16)   2940(296)   7202(164)   30638(58)
merged  12(-8) 62(4)  175(-6) 1995(-23)
 abandoned   3(1)  19(-7) 214(2)   610(-3)
   own commits  14(-5) 76(1)  208(-1) 1099(-1)
review commits   0(0)   0(0)0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
   needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 320(320)
   total 401(401)   assigned 21(21)   open 354(354)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Sahil Gautam made 6 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-11-02

2023-11-02 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:

+ Heiko, Michael W., Ilmari, Thorsten, Hossein, Stephan, Cloph, 
Michael S., Eike,

  Xisco, Caolan

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
+ Set up a daily tinderbox for the python-based windows installer 
(Cloph)

  [ hope to get to it in a week ]

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.6 status: 7.6.3 rc1 later today
  + 4 patches still waiting:
   https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/branch:libreoffice-7-6+status:open
+ 7.5 status: 7.5.8 announced as final today
  + new build just for macOS appstore version (cherry-pick on top 
of tag)

coming up
+ 24.2: end of Nov, in week 47, first alpha

* Ask from the board (Thorsten)
+ The Android viewer in version 7.6 has been published on F-Droid
  since a while, with good quality.
+ The board is asking the ESC, if:
   * with the release of LibreOffice 7.6.3 end of November
   * publishing the Android Viewer again on the Google PlayStore
   * would be met with approval?
+ ~200 fixes since it was un-published because of poor state back 
then (Michael W.)

  + makes sense to publish it again
  + no plan to implement big new features
  + but look into whatever issues will get reported
+ concerns? wait a bit longer? (Thorsten)
+ what's currently available in playstore? (Michael S.)
  + currently unlisted and not accessible (Cloph)
+ would take some time to get it published again (Cloph)
  + will probably not land directly on 7.6.3 release day
  + but then keep on publishing new versions
+ no objections

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
272(272) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
   created  7(2)19(-6) 53(-8) 291(-1)
 commented 13(4)44(-3)162(-20)   1076(-4)
  resolved  3(3) 5(0)  21(-2) 157(1)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 13 changes in 1 month, and 132 
changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 11 changes in 1 month, and 80 changes in 
1 year
  Olivier Hallot made 11 changes in 1 month, and 432 changes in 
1 year
  Heiko Tietze made 10 changes in 1 month, and 117 changes in 1 
year
  Seth Chaiklin made 10 changes in 1 month, and 316 changes in 
1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 7 changes in 1 month, and 355 changes 
in 1 year

  Xisco Fauli made 4 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
  aswath t made 2 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
  Rathke, Eike made 2 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
  Jérôme made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
253(253) (topicUI) bugs open, 57(57) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months
 added  8(1)  16(-1)19(0)   40(0)
 commented 56(-13)   195(12)   450(22)2240(28)
   removed  0(0)   2(0)  3(0)   20(1)
  resolved  8(-1) 30(3) 88(4)  336(8)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 124 changes in 1 month, and 1417 changes in 
1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 122 changes in 1 month, and 594 changes 
in 1 year
  Eyal Rozenberg made 28 changes in 1 month, and 252 changes in 
1 year

  Justin Luth made 25 changes in 1 month, and 120 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 23 changes in 1 month, and 237 
changes in 1 year

  m.a.riosv made 21 changes in 1 month, and 94 changes in 1 year
  Balazs Varga made 16 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
  Amin Irgaliev made 14 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 
year

  Bogdan B made 13 changes in 1 month, and 116 changes in 1 year
  Dieter made 12 changes in 1 month, and 236 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 157991] Print scaling not applied when using single column,
   column wider than page width, with text-wrapping
+ [Bug 155169] Inconsistent behavior of Cmd+left/right arrow on macOS
+ [Bug 100585] Ordering of sheets with different direction changes when
   switching between them (RTL UI, not with GTK3)

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 17(+8) import failure, 10(+10) export failures
  - older calc issue is fixed, new source of crashers are known as
  - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/157456
  - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/156867
+ 2 coverity issues
+ 3 Google / ossfuzz, 2 crashers, 1 of which fixed

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ 7.5.6.22984(+310) 2674 2328
+ 7.5.7.12832(+877) 1955 1190
+ 7.6.0.314790(+939) 13851 12800
+ 7.6.1.27382(+604) 6778 6140
+ 7.6.2.110497(+3214) 7283 4348

* Mentoring (Hossein)
  + Finalized and published a blog

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2022-06-23

2022-06-23 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Ilmari, Hossein, Thorsten, Xisco, Stephan, Eike, Heiko, Michael 
S., Cloph, Lubos,

  Caolan, anonymous guest, Tomaz

* Completed Action Items:
+ ask Italo what version the marketing wants for 7.5 vs 8.0 (Xisco)
  + no real feature/change that would warrant a bump (italo)

 + for 7.6 / version after the next the plan is to change the 
build-baseline, so that might be enough reason to switch to 8.0 (cloph)



* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.4 status: rc1 in 2 weeks; UI and string freeze
+ 7.3 status: 7.3.5 rc1 in 1 week
+ app store: builds in verification state in the Apple/MS stores

* Documentation (Olivier, missing)
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
245(245) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
   created 19(9) 48(0)123(3)  330(5)
 commented 41(35)   150(11)   303(11)1497(29)
  resolved  6(6) 14(6) 61(4)  204(5)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Seth Chaiklin made 110 changes in 1 month, and 310 changes in 
1 year
  Olivier Hallot made 35 changes in 1 month, and 469 changes in 
1 year
  Heiko Tietze made 22 changes in 1 month, and 112 changes in 1 
year

  Timur made 22 changes in 1 month, and 22 changes in 1 year
  Rathke, Eike made 11 changes in 1 month, and 32 changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 11 changes in 1 month, and 93 changes in 
1 year

  Rafael Lima made 8 changes in 1 month, and 312 changes in 1 year
  Dieter made 6 changes in 1 month, and 98 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 5 changes in 1 month, and 110 changes 
in 1 year

  Justin Luth made 5 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
273(273) (topicUI) bugs open, 71(71) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month3 months   12 months
 added  4(1)  7(-1) 25(-3)  52(-3)
 commented 42(10)   205(-32)   644(-15)   2447(-67)
   removed  0(0)  0(0)  10(-2)  32(0)
  resolved  6(-2)29(-2) 76(2)  340(-4)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 114 changes in 1 month, and 1719 changes in 
1 year

  Rafael Lima made 49 changes in 1 month, and 94 changes in 1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 29 changes in 1 month, and 192 changes in 
1 year

  Timur made 24 changes in 1 month, and 37 changes in 1 year
  Dieter made 21 changes in 1 month, and 223 changes in 1 year
  Németh, László made 19 changes in 1 month, and 35 changes in 
1 year
  Eyal Rozenberg made 16 changes in 1 month, and 90 changes in 
1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 12 changes in 1 month, and 259 
changes in 1 year
  Henschel, Regina made 11 changes in 1 month, and 52 changes 
in 1 year

  *UNKNOWN* made 9 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 149693] Improve Google Drive service setup
+ [Bug 149681] UI: the arrangement of setting defining position of 
a shape

  is kind of odd
+ [Bug 149682] Run Macro dialog should be able to run a macro without
   immediately closing the dialog
+ [Bug 149600] Hue band in color picker dialog doesn't react to clicks
   before picking a color
+ [Bug 149661] [Feature request] Automatic table-background-coloring
   ported from Calc to Writer.
 -> + [Bug 149635] FEATURE REQUEST: remove "after" separator in 
cross-reference

   to numbered list item
 + missing configuration in cross-references to get rid the 
"after" character

 + inner separators are always dots, eg. "Ch.1:2-3" = "1.2.3"
+ [Bug 149643] Group and Ungroup in wrong menu
+ [Bug 149597] ENHANCEMENT: Multi-color line attribute (dashed 
lines with

   alternate background color
+ [Bug 149591] WORD COMPLETION: Make it visible, if there is more than
   one option for word completion
 -> + Scale picture beyond page boundaries
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149566
  + question whether scaling beyond page boundaries is possible at all

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 121(-27) import failure, 53(-9) export failures
+ 5 coverity issues
- new build getting processed
+ 7 ossfuzz issues

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.2.7.2
 + (+17) 410 396 382 314 268 167 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.3.2
 + (-375) 1063 1438 1797 1583 1417 1055 555 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.4.2
 + (+288) 963 675 0


- 7.3.4.2 report in .ods file

- 
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2022-June/089076.html


- Some crashes already

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2022-07-07

2022-07-07 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Heiko, Ilmari, Stephan, Sophie, Thorsten, Olivier, Michael S, 
Xisco, Eike, Cloph,

  Lubos, Tomaz, Gabriel, Hossein, Michael W.

* Completed Action Items:
+ none

* Pending Action Items:
+ none

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.4 status: 7.4.0.1 tagged yesterday, builds running
 + UI and string freeze phase
 + gerrit#136874 with UI, string & API change (Thorsten)
   + nominally bug fix, (technically feature)
   + three string changes
   + OK to have it in 7.4 as a bug fix (Cloph)
   + add Sophie and Olivier as reviewers, please
   + waiting for ~1 day for feedback, will then merge (Thorsten)
+ 7.3 status: 7.3.5 RC2 next week

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help - No news
+ Helpcontent2
   + Updates and fixes (ohallot, M. Kaganski, S. Chaiklin, R. Lima, 
A Romedenne)

+ Guides
   + No news
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
240(240) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
   created 16(0)41(-3) 98(-25)330(-1)
 commented 23(12)   82(2) 317(8) 1502(8)
  resolved  5(-3)   18(3)  44(-20)208(0)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Olivier Hallot made 45 changes in 1 month, and 480 changes in 
1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 42 changes in 1 month, and 321 changes in 
1 year

  Rathke, Eike made 11 changes in 1 month, and 32 changes in 1 year
  Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 10 changes in 1 month, and 23 
changes in 1 year

  Timur made 10 changes in 1 month, and 25 changes in 1 year
  Alain Romedenne made 6 changes in 1 month, and 38 changes in 
1 year
  Németh, László made 6 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 
year

  Ezinne Nnamani made 6 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
  NISZ LibreOffice Team made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 
changes in 1 year

  Dan Dascalescu made 4 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
273(273) (topicUI) bugs open, 60(60) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
 added  7(5)  8(4) 17(-5)  47(1)
 commented 59(43)   129(12)   592(-14)   2372(11)
   removed  0(-2) 1(-1)10(-1)  31(-3)
  resolved  6(2) 24(1) 70(-7) 337(0)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 81 changes in 1 month, and 1627 changes in 
1 year

  Telesto made 28 changes in 1 month, and 241 changes in 1 year
  Timur made 15 changes in 1 month, and 44 changes in 1 year
  Hossein made 12 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year
  Rafael Lima made 11 changes in 1 month, and 85 changes in 1 year
  Adalbert Hanßen made 10 changes in 1 month, and 18 changes in 
1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 10 changes in 1 month, and 183 changes in 
1 year

  Dieter made 7 changes in 1 month, and 209 changes in 1 year
  Martin Srdoš made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
  Roman Kuznetsov made 6 changes in 1 month, and 194 changes in 
1 year
+ [Bug 149859] Exported pdf displays in firefox and acrobat as 
titled "landscape."

+ [Bug 149839] Do not hyphenate Proper Nouns and Adjectives
+ [Bug 149831] [UI] Navigation order with TAB key in the Sort dialog
+ [Bug 149768] template menu box too small
+ [Bug 149263] Spreadsheet created as DIN A3 and sent to a generic 
printer

  (DIN A4) creates no paper size warning, yet printing it
+ [Bug 149820] Hot key to return cursor to previous position
+ [Bug 149823] Scrolling on properties pane causes to change value 
unintentionally

+ [Bug 149825] move table down to create text space above the table
+ [Bug 149796] styles / document: "autoupdate" -- misleading meaning
+ [Bug 149792] Feature request: Preselect type of files in open dialog
   depending on the component in use
+ [Bug 149741] Confusing icon for adding column in libreoffice writer

* Crash Reporting (Caolan, missing)
+ 95(-8) import failure, 49(-2) export failures
+ ??? coverity issues
+ Google / ossfuzz: ?? fuzzers active now

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.2.7.2
 + (-5) 479 484 410 396 382 314 268 167 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.3.2
 + (-163) 878 1041 1063 1438 1797 1583 1417 1055 555 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.4.2
 + (+453) 1581 1128 963 675 0

* mentoring/easyhack update (Hossein)
  committer...   1 week 1 month 3 months12 months
  open  57(3)  124(-2) 133(-2)  133(-2)
   reviews 306(-42)   1172(16)2810(-46)   12560(-62)

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2022-06-09

2022-06-09 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Michael W, Thorsten, Heiko, Hossein, Caolan, Stephan, Ilmari, 
Lubos, Michael S,

  Gabriel, Eike, Olivier, Xisco, Cloph, Kendy, Quikee, Michael M

* Completed Action Items:
+ create a bugzilla query for open easy hacks without the 
reviewed:2022 whiteboard field (Hossein) → 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/EasyHacks/Review

+ document Java baseline in README.md (Hossein)
  Add information on Java baseline in README.md
  https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/135557

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.4 status:
  + beta 1 + feature freeze + 7-4 branch later today
  + self-approval still possible on 7-4 branch for now
  + string/UI freeze in week 27, additional approvals needed then
+ 7.3 status: 7.3.4 final today
   + 7.3.5 rc1 end of June
+ Windows ARM build (Thorsten)
  + add similarly to macOS ARM build (Cloph)
  + Gerrit CI would be great (Thorsten)
- tough w/o adding more hw (Cloph)
- get every N'ths build done, Thorsten committing to act in 
case of failure

  then
  + Any use of that build? (Heiko)
 - there are low-cost Windows machines using ARM (Thorsten)
 - Microsoft introduced the SQ1/SQ2 Processor based on ARM
 - see e.g. here 
https://www.androidauthority.com/windows-on-arm-explained-3100713/

+ Remotes: Android, iOS; Android viewer

* Under-loved areas of the codebase (Michael M)
  + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Under-loved_areas
  + personal communication from a foundation director (Michael S)
 + very unhappy we're discussing this topic
 + that we have started our own list - instead of using his proposal
 + asking us to replace the description with a sentence - don't have
   an opinion on it.
   "This page is meant to build a selection of "Focus areas" of the 
LibreOffice codebase with contributions from the ESC and TDF's team to 
list areas that have been neglected for a while and would benefit from 
additional attention from commercial contributors, in-house developers 
and volunteers."
  + seems to me it's good to have the ESC oversee engineering things 
(Michael)

 + like to keep it clear of political manoevers (Stephan B)
 + strongly support that (Thorsten, Xisco, Michael M)
  + says:
  "This page is meant to build a list of under-loved areas of the 
LibreOffice codebase where the ESC recommends more attention and would 
benefit from investment of resources without duplicating existing 
investment. The intention is to list higher level areas, like RTL or CTL 
support, or Base (no micro-ideas, please)."

+ nothing problematic with that (Stephan B)
   + what is the difference ?
   + no idea (Michael S)
  + only a developer, not a grand visionary.
+ note it is a wiki - it's easy to edit it yourself (Michael M)
   + motivation - avoiding delay (Michael M)
  + propose come up with a spreadsheet to rank these
  + BoD can use it, or not use it as it sees fit.
   + was there interesting bugs/LOC? (Michael M)
  + expected someone else to do it from my sheet (Xisco)
AI:   + create the ranking sheet and include anything from Xisco's bug 
data (Miklos)


* Atticization of LOOL (Michael M)
  + policy is here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/TDF/Policies/Attic
  + technical vs. political
  + limbo state currently.
+ contributors moved away 2020-10-01
   + no commits for ~3 months
+ was 'frozen' since 2021-01-19
   + https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/online/log
+ make clear that no bugfixing is going on (Caolan)
   + real security issues / hazard here:
   + https://github.com/CollaboraOnline/online/security/advisories
+ and how to un-freeze it if wanted
   + support the idea to get some clarity here (Thorsten)
  + as one of the co-authors of the process - reminder we need to 
decide

if it small/medium/large
   + we might become something similar as ASF for OO if continues 
(Michael S)

   + size: between medium & large (Caolan)
  + agree (Thorsten)
  + initial thought it is large (Stephan B)
  + quite complex - JS + C++ - leaflet etc. (Michael M)
  + intimiately tied to core (Thorsten)
 + size: 1 small, 3 medium, 6 large
 + not sure tightness to core should count (Kendy)
+ project itself - C++/JS server-side quite large.
+ Atticization proposal evolved (Thorsten)
  + was one-size-fits all initially, thought for small projects too 
onerous

to require 3 devs, so - we had this three sizes added
   + consensus that it is at least medium sized (Thorsten)
  + little practical difference if 3-6 need to show up (Stephan B)
   * propose the "atticization" of LOOL
  + 9 - no concerns
  + 6 - abstain
  => passed.
=> AI: pass on to board (Stephan)

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help, no news

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2022-08-04

2022-08-04 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Caolan, Thorsten, Michael S., Cloph, Stephan, Hossein, Olivier, 
Kendy, Eike, Heiko


* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.4 status
  + next RC3 in 1 week
+ 7.3 status: 7.3.6 rc1 in 2 weeks
+ Appstores
  + coordinating release with marketing, technical side is ready

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New help
   + [Bug 150205] New: De-emphasize freetext search
  + feedback welcome
+ HelpContent2
   + updates and fixes (ohallot, R. Lima)
+ Guides
   + Started Calc Guide 7.4

+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
242(242) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
   created 10(7)26(-7) 94(-2) 332(1)
 commented 15(10)   47(-13)   273(-18)   1469(6)
  resolved  3(2) 9(-7) 41(-2) 209(0)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Olivier Hallot made 19 changes in 1 month, and 463 changes in 
1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 16 changes in 1 month, and 101 changes in 
1 year

  Rafael Lima made 16 changes in 1 month, and 315 changes in 1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 9 changes in 1 month, and 330 changes in 1 
year

  Nabet, Julien made 9 changes in 1 month, and 89 changes in 1 year
  Timur made 7 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 1 year
  Robert Großkopf made 6 changes in 1 month, and 15 changes in 
1 year

  Justin Luth made 4 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
  Richard England made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 
year

  Xisco Fauli made 4 changes in 1 month, and 84 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
270(270) (topicUI) bugs open, 54(54) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
 added  5(-2) 7(-8)11(-7)  36(-8)
 commented 53(7)160(16)   479(-30)   2242(5)
   removed  0(0)  0(-1) 2(-1)  29(0)
  resolved 11(7) 26(7) 69(6)  330(6)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 101 changes in 1 month, and 1581 changes in 
1 year
  Roman Kuznetsov made 35 changes in 1 month, and 196 changes 
in 1 year

  Timur made 17 changes in 1 month, and 65 changes in 1 year
  Rafael Lima made 15 changes in 1 month, and 91 changes in 1 year
  Bielefeld, Rainer made 13 changes in 1 month, and 19 changes 
in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 12 changes in 1 month, and 236 changes 
in 1 year

  Hossein made 11 changes in 1 month, and 38 changes in 1 year
  Dieter made 10 changes in 1 month, and 208 changes in 1 year
  Telesto made 9 changes in 1 month, and 175 changes in 1 year
  m.a.riosv made 8 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 150237] LINE NUMBERING DIALOG: Change interval to 1 by default
 -> + [Bug 150116] No "Undo" after changing margins size in "Print Preview"
+ developer input welcome
+ [Bug 150200] Drop caps bad behaviour with hyphens
+ [Bug 150182] Pivot Table Filter is inaccessible from main menu, 
and its
   label in context menu doesn't distinguish it from e.g. 
Standard Filter


* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 119(+6) import failure, 80(+7) export failures
  + potential fix, numbers should go down
+ 3 coverity issues
+ 9 ossfuzz issues, 2 crashes

* Crash Reporting (Xisco, missing)
+ 7.3.2.243095(+1627)
+ 7.3.3.221803(+1097)
+ 7.3.4.217044(+2569)
+ 7.3.5.21472(+1036)

* Mentoring/easyhack update (Hossein)
  committer...   1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
  open  59(-10)112(-17)123(-16)  123(-16)
   reviews 358(106)   1094(32)2826(70) 12300(56)
merged 217(26) 781(-66)   3375(-95)15113(-74)
 abandoned  15(8)   53(1)  159(-7)   807(-4)
   own commits 153(10) 542(-16)   2423(-117)   11761(-121)
review commits  49(14) 179(0)  606(17)  3339(-27)
contributor...   1 week1 month  3 months 12 months
  open  48(-6) 98(-1)  109(-1)   114(-1)
   reviews 696(44)   2238(-162)   7580(-226)   33190(-140)
merged  22(7) 103(12)  192(13)  1210(6)
 abandoned   1(-8) 39(0)   104(-3)   466(-2)
   own commits  15(6)  72(4)   178(6)   1221(2)
review commits   0(0)   0(0) 0(0)  0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
   needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 303(303)
   total 364(364)   assigned 16(16)   open 320(320)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Paris Oplopoios made 32

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2022-12-01

2022-12-01 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Heiko, Ilmari, Stephan, Caolan, Hossein, Cloph, Michael S, 
Thorsten, Xisco, Eike


* Completed Action Items:
+ enable the commit permission for Kevin (Cloph)
+ send the new-committer welcome mail to Kevin (Heiko)

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.4 status: 7.4.4 rc1 in 2 weeks
   + 7.4.3 approved in Mac app store, pending some approval in MS store
+ 7.5 status:
  + issue building install sets on Windows, still investigating
  + feature freeze in 1 week, also means the beta1 and -7-5 branch
 + (but can still +2 yourself for now)
  + no late features are known at this time
  + blog post to announce beta, even when some installsets missing? 
(Xisco)

 + probably makes sense

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ missing Olivier
+ New Help
   + Annoying issue at 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144859

  + Javascrpt skills welcome
+ Helpcontents
   + Fixes and updates (stragu, erack, A. Romedenne, R, Lima, 
fitoshido)

+ Guides
   + Published Getting Started guide 7.4, Impress Guide 7.4
   + Blog post:

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/12/01/getting-started-guide-7-4-and-impress-guide-7-4-available-for-download/ 


+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
248(248) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months
   created  9(-5) 46(1) 94(3)  320(0)
 commented 23(-30)   161(16)   286(27)1219(-6)
  resolved  1(-3) 18(-1)44(-1) 200(-3)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Bogdan B made 132 changes in 1 month, and 145 changes in 1 year
  Stéphane Guillou (stragu) made 36 changes in 1 month, and 41 
changes in 1 year
  Heiko Tietze made 28 changes in 1 month, and 126 changes in 1 
year
  Olivier Hallot made 20 changes in 1 month, and 461 changes in 
1 year
  Roman Kuznetsov made 18 changes in 1 month, and 53 changes in 
1 year

  Dieter made 18 changes in 1 month, and 89 changes in 1 year
  Rafael Lima made 12 changes in 1 month, and 226 changes in 1 year
  steve made 11 changes in 1 month, and 18 changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 10 changes in 1 month, and 114 changes in 
1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 9 changes in 1 month, and 98 changes 
in 1 year


* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
277(277) (topicUI) bugs open, 58(58) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month3 months   12 months
 added  4(-2)  6(-8) 24(-13) 49(-12)
 commented 42(-52)   182(-65)   546(-87)   2226(-84)
   removed  2(2)   6(3)  10(3)   37(3)
  resolved  9(-1) 35(8)  88(5)  324(2)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 185 changes in 1 month, and 1548 changes in 
1 year
  Eyal Rozenberg made 31 changes in 1 month, and 187 changes in 
1 year

  Dieter made 30 changes in 1 month, and 227 changes in 1 year
  V Stuart Foote made 30 changes in 1 month, and 71 changes in 
1 year

  Bogdan B made 27 changes in 1 month, and 48 changes in 1 year
  Stéphane Guillou (stragu) made 27 changes in 1 month, and 32 
changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 17 changes in 1 month, and 148 
changes in 1 year

  Hossein made 14 changes in 1 month, and 77 changes in 1 year
  Rafael Lima made 14 changes in 1 month, and 204 changes in 1 year
  خالد حسني made 11 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 152337] Show a warning infobar when imported text file used 
several of

   selected field separators
 -> + [Bug 32485] Settings on the image frame style lost when caption 
is applied

+ input welcome!
+ [Bug 152284] Increase contrast of the ruler elements when os/DE 
is in a

   Dark color mode
+ [Bug 152189] styles list "new", plus "DUPLICATE" !
+ [Bug 152136] "SMTP Server" term needs clarification in UI that 
non-SMTP

   servers are unsupported
+ [Bug 97802] Chart categories : manually set strings (not 
references to table)

   are allowed but not used
 -> + [Bug 152256] CHAPTER NUMBERING DIALOG: Add additional option in 
numbering

   sublevels
+ up for discussion
+ [Bug 143015] 'Text Language' field on the Status bar for Calc 
should display
   language for cell paragraph content consistent with Writer 
handling of

   paragraph or table cell, and not the global document language
+ [Bug 139977] Tools>Options>LibreOffice Writer>Table dialog, 
"Variable"

   setting does not work when resizing cells with keyboard shortcut
+ [Bug 146273] inconsistencies in navigator page "go to" and page 
dialog
+ [Bug 152164] Use the same

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-03-02

2023-03-09 Thread Stephan Bergmann


On 02/03/2023 16:42, Miklos Vajna wrote:

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)

[...]

  25 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter3    gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil

  -> Should be better after 
6ee7245960837b6376b49f7c33eef966770022f4


Even after the above commit, that issue still causes e.g. 
 to occasionally 
fail.  Most recently with



[_RUN_] testTdf107975::TestBody
tdf107975.odt:
/home/tdf/lode/jenkins/workspace/lo_tb_master_linux_dbg/sw/qa/extras/uiwriter/uiwriter3.cxx:2058:testTdf107975::TestBody
equality assertion failed
- Expected: 2
- Actual  : 1


at .

I tried to debug that directly on 
tb75:/home/tdf/lode/jenkins/workspace/lo_tb_master_linux_dbg, but wasn't 
able to reproduce the issue even once, with each of the successively 
broader attempts



cd sw && while make -rs CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter3 
CPPUNIT_TEST_NAME=testTdf107975::TestBody; do :; done


or


cd sw && while make -rs CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter3; do :; done


or


cd sw && while make -rs -O -j32 slowcheck; do :; done


or


while make -O check; do :; done


each running for multiple hours on end.  :(

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-07-20

2023-07-20 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Heiko, Michael W., Regina, Stephan, Olivier, Cloph, Hossein, 
Thorsten, Gabriel,

  Eike, Stephane, Michael S

* Completed Action Items:
  + Create the https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/24.2 
page (Ilmari)
  + Create the 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2024 page (Ilmari)


* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.6 status: rc2 in 1 week
  + 1 review on libreoffice-7-6 is needed
  + late feature request (Thorsten):
Impress text edit improvement: 
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/154640
Drag threshold improvement: 
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/154379

  + Both effect how to interact with text quickly in Impress
+ don't introduce new strings
+ do change configuration
+ no concerns from Heiko about the first patch at least
+ but really necessary in 7.6? not well tested
+ fair statement (Thorsten)
  + but gets us closer on par with Powerpoint
  + available to fix things on short notice
+ strictly UI-related (Cloph)
+ lets push to 7.6 and see if there'll be an issue with RC2 (Heiko)
+ will do that (Thorsten)

+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/154642 (Thorsten)

+ involves a single string change
+ should be OK to make an exception (Cloph)
  + please ping Olivier,Sophi about it

   + will do that (Thorsten)

+ 7.5 status: 7.5.5 released today
   + approved in Mac app store, soon in MS store (already approved)
+ status of bumping Linux baseline to AlmaLinux 8 on master
   + successful Clang build
   + some GCC issues
   + bump directly to AlmaLinux 9?
  + GTK 4 as part of the distro then, => --enable-gtk4
+ otherwise needs to see how to enable that locally for
  AlmaLinux 8
  + Kernel 5.4 instead of 4.x, so would affect more users
   + better stick to 8 for now (Thorsten)
   + latest DevTools is 12, use that or any earlier one
  + any reason not to pick the latest one? (Stephan)
 + not really (Cloph)
   + requirements for Qt6? (Heiko)
  + not in 8, not sure if it's in 9 (Cloph)
  + would be nice to have --enable-kf6 enabled by default (Heiko)
  + depends on how much work it is to make it compile on 
AlmaLinux 8 or 9

+ tl;dr: continue work to make AlmaLinux 8 the new baseline

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Helpcontents2
   + updates and review of UNO command in menus help pages (ohallot)
   + Fixes and updates (R. Lima, S. Chaiklin, stragu)
   + new pages/updates for ScriptForge (R. Lima)
   + Update on Frame help pages (vmiklos)
+ Guides
   + published Getting Started Guides 7.5 (ohallot)

+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
275(275) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
   created 11(5)31(-1) 74(-2)298(3)
 commented 16(8)53(-15)   171(-11)   997(-6)
  resolved  1(0) 3(-3) 26(-1)161(1)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Stéphane Guillou made 57 changes in 1 month, and 280 changes 
in 1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 14 changes in 1 month, and 307 changes in 
1 year
  Olivier Hallot made 13 changes in 1 month, and 472 changes in 
1 year

  Rafael Lima made 9 changes in 1 month, and 114 changes in 1 year
  Monastirsky, Maxim made 8 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes 
in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 7 changes in 1 month, and 96 changes in 1 
year
  Nabet, Julien made 6 changes in 1 month, and 23 changes in 1 
year
  William Friedman made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 
1 year

  Leroy made 3 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year
  Alex Thurgood made 3 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
268(268) (topicUI) bugs open, 64(64) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month3 months12 months
 added  9(0)  17(-4) 31(-2)   60(-3)
 commented 78(-11)   197(-47)   698(-130)   2433(-44)
   removed  1(1)   3(2)  10(2)30(2)
  resolved  8(-2) 24(-5)104(-3)  321(4)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 111 changes in 1 month, and 1490 changes in 
1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 54 changes in 1 month, and 411 changes 
in 1 year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 42 changes in 1 month, and 415 
changes in 1 year

  ady made 40 changes in 1 month, and 84 changes in 1 year
  Justin Luth made 26 changes in 1 month, and 93 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 21 changes in 1 month, and 225 
changes in 1 year

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-06-29

2023-06-29 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Affiliated with TDF: Florian Effenberger, Mike Saunders, Juan 
Jose Gonzales,  Stephane Guillou, Xisco Fauli, Hossein Nourikhah, 
Christian Lohmaier, Michael Weghorn (City of Munich until 2023-06-30), 
Stephan Ficht, Olivier Hallot, Heiko Tietze, Sophie Gautier, Ilmari 
Lauhakangas

+ Affiliated with Hideas: Italo Vignoli
+ Affiliated with Collabora: Caolan McNamara
+ Affiliated with allotropia: Thorsten Behrens
+ Affiliated with Red Hat: Stephan Bergmann
+ Unaffiliated: Regina Henschel

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* ESC budget voting (Ilmari)
* Preparations
* blogpost with call for proposals was published with more than 15
days deadline
* wiki page was available for everyone to edit
* ESC minutes were shared publicly and sent to mailing lists
* today's call was announced publicly
* ranking spreadsheet was always public in an up to date version
* updated ESC tendering process draft:
  https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/ysttSYyRnyM6QYF

* Pending items
* transparency section of the website must be in place before
tendering starts, Italo is working on it
* blogpost with ranking spreadsheet must be published as soon 
as that

one is finalized

* Proposals
* No paid external expert was requested.
* No urgency request was made.
* Do all proposals on today's list have a sufficient 
description and

cost estimate? Yes.
* Have all cost estimates been re-evaluated by only non-conflicted
members of the ESC? Yes.

* Ranking
* ALL proposals must be ranked.
* Proposal by a committee that has a majority of non-Conflicted 
members.

* Decision then by CONSENSUS of only the non-Conflicted members.
* Failing that, majority VOTE by only non-Conflicted members.

* Spreadsheet with comments from TDF staff:
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/i9CSEs2gjFisc2y

* Budget pages for reference:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2020
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2021
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2022
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2023

* Propose to drop it
+ GraphicFilter clean-up (2020)
  + Done by Tomaž (thanks!)
+ Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian)
from imported PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not 
behaving (2022)

  + Fixed by Kevin Suo (thanks!)
+ UNO API changes subscription/feedback channel (2022)
  + TDF infra team will be able to implement this
+ Regular scan-build reports like we do with CppCheck (2022)
  + Cloph can do it, just hook up existing cppcheck as jenkins job
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/cppcheck_reports/master/
+ Multi-color gradient (2022)
  + allotropia already working on this / done for 7.6
+ Fix accessibility issues (2022)
  + Description too vague, now TDF has hired an accessibility 
developer

+ Automated test tools for finding text rendering defects
  + Khaled is already working on it
+ Improve the experience of the CPP SDK
  + Hossein working on it

* Propose to put it on hold for now
+ Bitmaps in vcl: Use a native format/depth (2022)
  + Lacked time to estimate
+ Table Styles improvements (2022)
  + Lacked time to estimate
+ Unify Writer and Draw Images (2022)
  + Lacked time to estimate
+ Decouple master slide and layouts (2022)
  + Lacked time to estimate
+ Missing ODF Features: Concentric gradient fill of 
custom-shapes (2022)

  + Lacked time to estimate
+ Bridge the gap between drawinglayer and VCL (2022)
  + Lacked time to estimate
+ Rolling Release: Finish MAR-based autoupdater for Windows (2021)
  + Very large size and large maintenance cost for infra. 
Partially addressed with the app stores.

+ Stabilize cross-page table layouting (2022)
  + The selection of bugs seems random
+ XLSX Aggressive Competitors tracker: table styles (ranked 6 
in Feb 2023)

  + has a dependency which needs to be completed first
+ Power optimization research (ranked 43 in Feb 2023)
  + We are working with KDE regarding the Blue Angel certificate

* Reviewed items to be voted on
+ Cleanup & further improve ODF conformance (2021)
+ Convert Impress slideshow to drawinglayer primitives (2021)
+ Writer tables: support cell margins (next to cell padding) (2021)
+ Font subsetter for font embedding (2022)
+ XLSX Aggressive Competitors tracker: gridlines for 3d line 
charts (2022)

+ Look-ahead styleref field for Writer (

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting agenda: 2023-06-29 16:00 CEST

2023-06-28 Thread Stephan Bergmann


Hi,

The prototype agenda is below. Extra items are appreciated either in
this document or as a reply to this mail:

https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/esc

You can join using Jitsi here:

https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/esc

Regards,

Stephan

---

* Present:
+

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
  + ESC tendering: prepare the sheet with the ideas + estimates 
(Ilmari, Xisco)


* Release Engineering update (Cloph/Xisco)
+ 7.6 status: rc 1 will be in 1 week? / string / UI freeze
+ 7.5 status: 7.5.5 rc1 in this week?

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
274(274) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months
   created  7(-11)   29(0)  93(3)  308(2)
 commented 27(-1)73(12)252(11)1040(20)
  resolved  1(-2) 6(-2) 37(-1) 172(-2)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Stéphane Guillou made 40 changes in 1 month, and 259 changes 
in 1 year
  Olivier Hallot made 25 changes in 1 month, and 492 changes in 
1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 12 changes in 1 month, and 307 changes in 
1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 7 changes in 1 month, and 108 changes in 
1 year

  Nabet, Julien made 6 changes in 1 month, and 32 changes in 1 year
  Robert Großkopf made 4 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 
1 year

  Heiko Tietze made 3 changes in 1 month, and 109 changes in 1 year
  Leroy made 3 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year
  Eyal Rozenberg made 2 changes in 1 month, and 15 changes in 1 
year
  Perdreau, Regis made 2 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 
year


* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
273(273) (topicUI) bugs open, 64(64) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month3 months   12 months
 added  4(-7) 15(-4) 31(-3)  57(-3)
 commented 40(-88)   239(-44)   834(-40)   2443(-10)
   removed  1(1)   2(-1) 11(1)   29(1)
  resolved  2(-12)27(-4)104(-6) 318(-2)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 131 changes in 1 month, and 1492 changes in 
1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 58 changes in 1 month, and 374 changes 
in 1 year

  ady made 43 changes in 1 month, and 87 changes in 1 year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 31 changes in 1 month, and 379 
changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 28 changes in 1 month, and 220 
changes in 1 year
  Eyal Rozenberg made 27 changes in 1 month, and 270 changes in 
1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 25 changes in 1 month, and 146 changes in 
1 year

  Dieter made 23 changes in 1 month, and 262 changes in 1 year
  Justin Luth made 20 changes in 1 month, and 68 changes in 1 year
  Hossein made 13 changes in 1 month, and 75 changes in 1 year

* Crash Reporting (Caolan)
+ 35(-6) import failure, 3(-11) export failures
+ ??? coverity issues
+ Google / ossfuzz: ?? fuzzers active now

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ 7.5.1.222521(+810)
+ 7.5.2.215694(+721)
+ 7.5.3.212719(+1411)
+ 7.5.4.22516(+1157)

* Mentoring (Hossein)
  committer...   1 week 1 month 3 months   12 months
  open  67(10) 110(-15)178(4)  189(4)
   reviews 278(4) 1046(-8)2916(68)   10728(-56)
merged 285(-44)   1181(33)3217(77)   12367(6)
 abandoned  10(-2)  54(-2) 158(-8) 656(-7)
   own commits 162(-31)711(-10)   2335(-3)   10189(-30)
review commits  46(0)  205(-6) 699(-4)2991(-25)
contributor...   1 week 1 month3 months12 months
  open  25(8)   39(6) 231(8)   236(9)
   reviews 784(-56)   2786(88)   8006(96)31620(-70)
merged   7(-8)  58(-6)372(-31)2695(-57)
 abandoned   4(3)8(3)  55(3)   492(-4)
   own commits   9(-4)  68(-2)231(-6) 1004(-7)
review commits   0(0)0(0)   0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
   needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 331(331)
   total 401(401)   assigned 28(28)   open 346(346)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Dr. David Alan Gilbert made 7 patches in 1 month, and 15 
patches in 1 year

  Baole Fang made 6 patches in 1 month, and 23 patches in 1 year
  Czeber László made 5 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
  Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 5 patches in 1 month, and 71 
patches in 1 year

  Luigi Iucci made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
  Colomban Wendling made 3 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches 
in 1 year

[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-05-11

2023-05-11 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Heiko, Caolan, Ilmari, Thorsten, Cloph, Stephan, Stephane, Xisco, 
Michael,

  Olivier, Hossein

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.4.7 released today
+ 7.6 status: alpha 1 this week, from master
  + no branch yet
  + feature freeze in 4 weeks
+ bring up late features if they won't make that date!
+ 7.5 status: 7.5.4 rc1 in 1 weeks

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Helpcontents2
   + Many updates in Help pages (erAck,fitoshido, ohallot)
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149224

   + need a change in controller in core/

+ Guides
   + Community working on updates (@bantoniof, @nscd)

+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
261(261) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
   created 13(-1)   34(-9)121(2)  305(-4)
 commented 21(5)61(-44)   347(11)1118(11)
  resolved  5(1)12(-1) 60(3)  175(-2)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Olivier Hallot made 66 changes in 1 month, and 505 changes in 
1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 25 changes in 1 month, and 112 
changes in 1 year
  Heiko Tietze made 16 changes in 1 month, and 125 changes in 1 
year
  Stéphane Guillou made 16 changes in 1 month, and 199 changes 
in 1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 9 changes in 1 month, and 429 changes in 1 
year

  Bogdan B made 8 changes in 1 month, and 220 changes in 1 year
  Don Matschull made 4 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
  Rathke, Eike made 3 changes in 1 month, and 18 changes in 1 year
  ady made 2 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 2 changes in 1 month, and 111 changes in 
1 year


* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
276(276) (topicUI) bugs open, 91(91) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months
 added  10(3) 22(-5)49(-3)  76(-7)
 commented 116(33)   426(73)   891(88)2390(85)
   removed   2(1)  3(-1)10(1)   26(1)
  resolved  16(9) 43(12)   100(10) 299(13)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 223 changes in 1 month, and 1430 changes in 
1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 107 changes in 1 month, and 303 changes 
in 1 year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 58 changes in 1 month, and 348 
changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 56 changes in 1 month, and 223 
changes in 1 year
  Roman Kuznetsov made 35 changes in 1 month, and 192 changes 
in 1 year

  Bogdan B made 29 changes in 1 month, and 68 changes in 1 year
  Rafael Lima made 29 changes in 1 month, and 287 changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 27 changes in 1 month, and 133 changes in 
1 year

  Dieter made 24 changes in 1 month, and 214 changes in 1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 22 changes in 1 month, and 127 changes in 
1 year
+ [Bug 143962] EDITING range reference should update when edge cell 
is moved in

   same column (drag and drop or cut and paste)
+ [Bug 155218] Printing: selecting different page orientation does 
not relayout

   printed content
+ [Bug 155214] rename “Modify” button into "Assign"
+ [Bug 154795] Font selection pane offers choice of "language" - 
which isn't.
+ [Bug 147680] Autotext replacement not willing to ignore space 
after shortcut

+ [Bug 155021] Tabbed UI: Tools tab layout can be improved
+ [Bug 155147] Better handling of large presentations
+ [Bug 155153] Grouping does not work by Format - Group, but with 
shortcut


* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 43(-122) import failure, 17(-112) export failures
  - all split fly issues seem fixed
  - some other fixes done as well, hopeful for next run
+ 3 coverity issues
+ 7 ossfuzz issues
  - still playing with fodt2pdf fuzzer

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.4.6.2
 + (+192) 871 679 676 683 513 392 371 241 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.5.2.2
 + (-29) 1041 1070 1162 950 527 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.5.3.2
 + (+453) 453 0

   + Crashes fixed in 7.5.3.2

- SwView::AttrChangedNotify(LinkParamNone *)

- Thanks to Caolán

- 
SfxObjectShell::CopyStoragesOfUnknownMediaType(com::sun::star::uno::Reference 
const &,com::sun::star::uno::Reference 
const &,com::sun::star::uno::Sequence const &)


- Thanks to Caolán

- oox::drawingml::lcl_GetGluePointId

- Thanks to Xisco

- sd::DrawViewShell::ExecCtrl(SfxRequest &)

- Thanks to Xisco


* ESC tender project proposal process (Thorsten & Florian)
  + Italo & Mike is working on the

ESC meeting minutes: 2024-03-28

2024-03-28 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Michael W., Olivier, Xisco, Stephan, Caolan, Stephane, Gabriel, 
Regina, Thorsten,

  Cloph

* Completed Action Items:
+ File easy hack to move the copyright year out of the about dialog 
l10n strings (Xisco)


- https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160409

+ Dev certification, reach out to the discussed candidate (Stephan)

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ Clop missing, probably busy fixing some server
+ 7.6: 7.6.7 RC1 week 16
+ 24.2: 24.2.3 RC1 week 15
+ both were announced in blog posts

https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2024/03/28/libreoffice-24-2-2-and-7-6-6-community/
+ MAR updates
+ do it on Tuesdays after the relase, not right away

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help (No news)
+ Helpcontents2
   + New page for sbasic ExportAsFixedFormat VBA method.
   + New Help pages for SORT + SORTBY calc functions (ohallot)
  + need clarification for sorting wrt locales/languages
  + treatment of mixed contents (text + numbers) for sorting
   + Rework of SUMIF pages (D. Maddern)
   + Housekeeping of Help pages (Pierre F, D Maddern, G Kelemen, 
Stragu)

   + SCREENSHOTS
  + "make screenshots" broken, results is unusable shots
 + Note: screenhooting works individually within LO session
 + most dialogs only showing OK/Cancel buttons, no real content
  + shots cannot be updated without manual effort
  + suggest to remove from Help pages until automation is available
 + return to "dry" (= text only) Help description.
  + When did it start to break? (Xisco)
 + during the welding process maybe (Olivier)
 + broken for quite a while now
+ Guides
   + work in progress for 24.2

+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
267(267) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month3 months   12 months
   created 12(-5) 61(1)  85(3) 231(-1)
 commented 15(-12)   117(-12)   239(0) 895(-3)
  resolved  7(3)  26(3)  40(6) 121(4)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Olivier Hallot made 36 changes in 1 month, and 274 changes in 
1 year

  Pierre F made 30 changes in 1 month, and 30 changes in 1 year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 25 changes in 1 month, and 83 
changes in 1 year

  Heiko Tietze made 21 changes in 1 month, and 99 changes in 1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 20 changes in 1 month, and 265 changes 
in 1 year
  Dione Maddern made 17 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 
year
  Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 17 changes in 1 month, and 23 
changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 14 changes in 1 month, and 92 changes 
in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 12 changes in 1 month, and 67 changes in 
1 year

  *UNKNOWN* made 11 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ missing Heiko
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
244(244) (topicUI) bugs open, 42(42) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
 added  9(2) 19(5) 20(4)   31(5)
 commented 91(13)   275(33)   499(34)2011(5)
   removed  0(0)  0(0)  0(-1)  13(-1)
  resolved  7(2) 25(-3)75(3)  310(-3)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Stéphane Guillou made 104 changes in 1 month, and 661 changes 
in 1 year
  Heiko Tietze made 97 changes in 1 month, and 1149 changes in 
1 year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 56 changes in 1 month, and 278 
changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 28 changes in 1 month, and 117 changes in 
1 year
  Eyal Rozenberg made 23 changes in 1 month, and 159 changes in 
1 year
  Devansh Varshney made 20 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes 
in 1 year

  Patrick Luby made 17 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
  Justin Luth made 15 changes in 1 month, and 137 changes in 1 year
  m.a.riosv made 14 changes in 1 month, and 64 changes in 1 year
  Timur made 12 changes in 1 month, and 35 changes in 1 year

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 10(-5) import failure, 8(+7) export failures
  - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
  - fixed with https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/165358
  + probably huge amount of failed asserts ahead, under control
+ 3 coverity issues
  - fixed
+ 6 ossfuzz issues
  - new fuzzer finding things, up to date so far

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ 7.6.4.143789(+2178)
+ 7.6.5.24924(+1388)
+ 24.2.0.313117(+920)
+ 24.2.1.26446(+2325)

* Mentoring (Hossein, Michael W)
  committer...   1 week 1 month 3 months12 months
  open

ESC meeting minutes: 2024-04-11

2024-04-11 Thread Stephan Bergmann


* Present:
+ Jonathan, Olivier, Cloph, Stephan, Eike, Hossein, Michael W., 
Regina,

  Michael S., Ilmari, Xisco

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
+ Update api.libreoffice.org from 7.4 (Cloph)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.6: 7.6.7 RC1 next week
+ 24.2: 24.2.3 RC1 this week, branch later today

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help (no news)
+ Helpcontent2
+ Updates and fixes (ohallot)
+ Guides
+ Calc guide available as web pages: books.libreoffice.org

+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
269(269) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
   created  7(-1)   52(0)  89(1) 224(-5)
 commented 19(4)96(-6)238(-4)848(-45)
  resolved  2(1)22(2)  38(0) 114(-3)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Olivier Hallot made 36 changes in 1 month, and 259 changes in 
1 year

  Pierre F made 30 changes in 1 month, and 30 changes in 1 year
  Dione Maddern made 20 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 
year
  Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 20 changes in 1 month, and 24 
changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 15 changes in 1 month, and 68 changes in 
1 year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 10 changes in 1 month, and 85 
changes in 1 year

  Nabet, Julien made 9 changes in 1 month, and 53 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 8 changes in 1 month, and 88 changes 
in 1 year

  Heiko Tietze made 7 changes in 1 month, and 88 changes in 1 year
  MeBugzilla made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Heiko missing
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
243(243) (topicUI) bugs open, 42(42) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam

+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month3 months   12 months
 added  8(4)  18(0)  21(1)   29(-1)
 commented 30(-20)   208(-57)   505(-31)   1981(-48)
   removed  0(-1)  1(0)   1(0)   12(-1)
  resolved  6(-2) 26(-2) 82(2)  316(3)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Stéphane Guillou made 90 changes in 1 month, and 667 changes 
in 1 year
  Heiko Tietze made 85 changes in 1 month, and 1150 changes in 
1 year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 62 changes in 1 month, and 281 
changes in 1 year

  Ady made 20 changes in 1 month, and 146 changes in 1 year
  Justin Luth made 18 changes in 1 month, and 140 changes in 1 year
  Patrick Luby made 17 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 16 changes in 1 month, and 164 
changes in 1 year
  Devansh Varshney made 16 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes 
in 1 year
  Fortin Tam, Jean-François made 10 changes in 1 month, and 24 
changes in 1 year
  Weghorn, Michael made 8 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes in 
1 year


* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ Caolan missing
+ 20(-8) import failure, 2(+1) export failures
+ ??? coverity issues
+ Google / ossfuzz: ?? fuzzers active now

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ 7.6.5.27183(+1052)
+ 7.6.6.3467(+0)
+ 24.2.0.314690(+832)
+ 24.2.1.29690(+1538)
+ 24.2.2.21663(+1205)

- New in 24.2.1.2

- 
https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/static%20bool%20%60anonymous%20namespace'::IsAllHiddenRow(const%20class%20SwRowFrame%20&%20const,%20const%20class%20SwTabFrame%20&%20const)


- Since f472defff73d495f564a0d8a84f24bc3739c9603 "sw: layout: 
prevent bad page break in table with 0-height rows"


- Michael S. ?

- should be fixed by https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/164788


* Mentoring (Hossein)
 + Reviewed submissions from the newcomers
 + Multiple calls for Windows build problems
 + New draft blog post
   + Porting Java tests to C++
  committer...   1 week  1 month 3 months12 months
  open  77(1)   142(-13)159(-16) 159(-16)
   reviews 304(-152)   1540(-50)   3974(-96)   12510(-4)
merged 194(-56)1015(-72)   3361(-72)   12495(23)
 abandoned  16(10)   51(-1) 170(0)   666(3)
   own commits 140(-37) 682(-50)   2211(-39)9276(-16)
review commits  57(-18) 314(-8) 927(-29)3065(5)
contributor...   1 week  1 month  3 months 12 months
  open  32(-28)  99(-3)  101(-5)   101(-5)
   reviews 688(-142)   2784(-108)   7946(-118)   29772(-48)
merged  21(-46) 155(2)   363(-5)  1797(-39)
 abandoned  17(12)   37(14)  290(3)689(5)
   own commits  31(-27) 181(0)   463(6)   1120(11)
review commits   0(0) 0(0) 0(0)

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