Ok, so what are the major things you would like from a new web redesign
(not including the docs)?
I know of:
Not reliant on JavaScript
Can be translated
Can be updated with each new build
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February 3, 2017, at 2:43 AM, Graham Percival
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On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 09:31:39PM -0500, John Roper wrote:
>Ok, so what are the major things you would like from a new web redesign
>(not including the docs)?
>I know of:
>Not reliant on JavaScript
>Can be tran
There is a template system. You setup page templates and Blended inserts
the text from any file into that template.
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Urs Liska wrote:
>
>
> Am 03.02.2017 um 18:20 schrieb Federico Bruni:
> > Il giorno ven 3 feb 2017 alle 11:31, John Roper
> >
Blended now has support for *eleven* markup languages and it has a new
website!
http://jmroper.com/blended/
On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 2:39 PM, John Roper wrote:
> There is a template system. You setup page templates and Blended inserts
> the text from any file into that template.
>
>
; Il giorno ven 3 feb 2017 alle 11:31, John Roper
> >> ha scritto:
> >>> OK, I was asking because I have written a static command line HTML
> >>> site generator that builds from HTML, Markdown, reStruturedText,
> >>> Textile, Plain Text (.txt), and Microsof
Design update. It looks better and attracts more users to the software.
On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 4:46 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
> John Roper writes:
>
> >> On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 4:16 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
> >>
> >>> Urs Liska writes:
> >>>
I wrote the Blended system to fit all of the requirements for redesigning
the website (not documentation) for LilyPond. A nice side effect was that I
can use it for other things.
On Feb 4, 2017 5:59 PM, "David Kastrup" wrote:
> John Roper writes:
>
> >> On Sat, Feb
Yes I can. I also have a Github repository of my own where I can store the
code.
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> >> John, can you set up
> >>
> >> http://jmroper.com/lilypond/
> >>
> >> with `blended' together with a README so that we can inspect the
> >> source code, CSS, etc., and the necessary steps to create it? I
> >> think only a direct comparison can answer our questions.
>
Ok, you can see the
Ok, I changed the image to something that made more sense. What do you guys
think about everything else?
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t command line
> >> that I have to call to convert the input data in the git repository
> >> to the output html, where to expect the output files, etc., so that
> >> I can actually try to generate the output by myself.
>
That has been added. It is 'blended build' Al
my design does both. The current one only really works for
people who already have even a little idea of how LilyPond works.
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I just pushed a new version of Blended which allows you to get other (HTML)
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Sadly the community does not want JavaScript to be used because most of the
users don't like using it. I had that idea already but did not bring it up.
I would love to though.
On Feb 9, 2017 5:12 PM, "Bernardo Barros" wrote:
> lilybin.com could be included into the official website as part of it
>
> in total. After enabling scripts this problem vanishes.
>
> In Vivaldi I don't see the background image at the top of the page at all.
>
I test using all major browsers including Vivaldi (my main browser) and I
am not getting any of these issues.
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On Feb 10, 2017 7:54 AM, "Johan Vromans" wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 10:51:05 +0100, Michael Gerdau wrote:
> The
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For this to work can someone tell me if it is possible to embed lilybin? If
not I am not going to bother to try.
On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Simon Albrecht
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> On 13.02.2017 00:52, John Roper wrote:
>
>> I am redesigning with a serif font and a lilybin integration.
>&g
If I have a patch for an update of the css for the existing site, where can
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Hi, my name is John Roper and I am a freelance developer who does web
design among other things. I use LilyPond occasionally and I felt that the
website needed a little bit of a sprucing up. I decided to see what I could
do and I have created a new, nicer looking, website based on wordpress
which
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From: "John Roper"
Date: Nov 28, 2016 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: New LilyPond website
To: "tisimst"
Cc:
The making notes blog? The image that I used I got off of unsplash (cc0
images). As for images not loading, what browser/O's are y
On Nov 28, 2016 7:03 PM, "tisimst" wrote:
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> Hi, John!
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 4:27 PM, John Roper [via Lilypond] <[hidden email]
<http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=197214&i=0>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, my name is John Roper and I am
Ok, the image errors should all be fixed now.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:56 PM, John Roper wrote:
>
> On Nov 28, 2016 7:03 PM, "tisimst" wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Hi, John!
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 4:27 PM, John Roper [via Lilypond] <[hidden
&g
https://unsplash.com/search/sheet-music?photo=6mXWOm43zZg
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:06 PM, John Roper wrote:
> Ok, the image errors should all be fixed now.
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:56 PM, John Roper
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Nov 28, 2016 7:03 PM, "tisimst&q
The download links are shown as such for the learning resources because
they are listed as downloads on the actual LilyPond website.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:09 PM, John Roper wrote:
> https://unsplash.com/search/sheet-music?photo=6mXWOm43zZg
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:06 PM, J
oday.com/wordpress-used-on-25-percent-of-all-websites-report-151115).
Even the lilypond blog runs on wordpress.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:23 PM, John Roper wrote:
> The download links are shown as such for the learning resources because
> they are listed as downloads on the actual LilyPond websi
OK. This was an idea that I had that I thought I'd share with you. My
overall plan was that the website looks old and could use a redesign. I did
it in WordPress because that is what I thought would be easiest for you,
especially for things like the news and blog. Technically we could get a
site th
Yea, where could the templates for the website now be found? I could do
style updates. I wouldn't look as good as the WordPress but it can be
better.
On Nov 29, 2016 7:06 AM, "David Kastrup" wrote:
> "Andrew Bernard" writes:
>
> > Hello John,
> >
> >
> >
> > Firstly, welcome to the lilypond com
A great example of an open source project's website is blender.org. It has
an excellent design and it gives you all the information you need to know.
The old version of their website can be found on archive.blender.org
On Nov 29, 2016 7:15 AM, "Thiago Censi" wrote:
> I am new here, but I leave m
I see a number of things on the current website that could be fixed even in
its current form. For one, the items on the news page are all mixed up and
jumbled together.
On Nov 29, 2016 7:23 AM, "John Roper" wrote:
> A great example of an open source project's website is blende
Not at my computer right now, but when I went to run make website in the
Documentation folder, I got an error that said there was not target to make
omp something.
On Nov 29, 2016 3:44 PM, "Karlin High" wrote:
> On 11/29/2016 10:22 AM, David Kastrup wrote:
>
> And, maybe wait for further suggest
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 7:58 PM, John Roper wrote:
> Ok, I have updated the website. There is a little problem with the sidebar
> pushing the other content down, but that is fine. My goal was to recreate
> the current website using just html and css with a nicer
html/css... It's not my forte but I think it
> might be one of yours! :)
>
> Chris
>
> On 29 Nov 2016 22:54, "Karlin High" wrote:
>
>> On 11/29/2016 4:42 PM, John Roper wrote:
>> > I am trying to build the lilypond docs now.
>>
>> Very good! Ch
n my
> laptops, tablets and phone, the Learn page is very difficult as it stands.
> It's row upon row of basically undifferentiated choices- if you didn't go
> there already knowing what you wanted, the page doesn't help you choose.
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The issues are all fixed. This is my proposal.
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:32 PM, John Roper wrote:
> Also, the nice thing about this new design is that it is fully responsive.
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Chris Yate wrote:
>
>> On 30 Nov 2016 01:00, &qu
I just checked the website using lynx, and it renders perfectly in a
text-based browser as well!
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:43 PM, John Roper wrote:
> The issues are all fixed. This is my proposal.
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:32 PM, John Roper
> wrote:
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>> Also, the nice
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The demo homepage on the site is fully working. All links are correct
(except the navbar).
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:50 PM, John Roper wrote:
> I just checked the website using lynx, and it renders perfectly in a
> text-based browser as well!
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:43 PM
I also tested in WebbIE 4 and the site looked fine.
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:23 PM, John Roper wrote:
> The demo homepage on the site is fully working. All links are correct
> (except the navbar).
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:50 PM, John Roper
> wrote:
>
>> I just c
m for the hours he put
> > into it. The scrolling is not annoying on my tablets but was on my
> > laptops, for some reason. That being said, having looked at the
> > sample web site on my laptops, tablets and phone, the Learn page is
> > very difficult as it stands. It's
You may have to reload your page a couple of times for the changes to
update.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:46 AM, John Roper wrote:
> >Text should stand out. It should be dark. Sometimes it should be bold;
> >judiciously used of course like it is with the current main banner
Thanks Urs. I have no problem with concise and readable, the text is fine.
Just please update the font.
On Nov 30, 2016 7:08 AM, "Urs Liska" wrote:
>
>
> Am 30. November 2016 12:58:43 MEZ, schrieb David Kastrup :
> >Urs Liska writes:
> >
> >> A
I can make the links in the footer brighter and I will look into other
fonts to use. Arial is the default font for many websites and it is the
fallback font for most web browsers.
On Nov 30, 2016 7:30 AM, "Werner LEMBERG" wrote:
>
> >>> One of the major things on the site that make it look anti
In all sans-serif fonts that i's look like l's. Just writing this message,
my email client's font (Gmail) is the same way.
On Nov 30, 2016 7:35 AM, "John Roper" wrote:
> I can make the links in the footer brighter and I will look into other
> fonts to use. Aria
You make the argument of readability, and I counter it with this:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.webdesignerdepot.com/2013/03/serif-vs-sans-the-final-battle/amp/?client=ms-android-google
On Nov 30, 2016 7:39 AM, "John Roper" wrote:
> In all sans-serif fonts that i's look like
ogle
>
> Perhaps a misunderstanding: The readability concern is the grey
> colour in combination with too thin letter strokes, not sans-serif per
> se.
>
>
> Werner
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ompletely agree with this.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:21 AM, John Roper wrote:
> Updates have been made.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:08 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>
>>
>> > You make the argument of readability, and I counter it with this:
>> > https://www.goog
> Are you going to dictate to The New York Times, for example, that they
>> > convert their serif to sans?
>>
>> You appear to be a person of very fixed opinions...
>>
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I added a small shadow to the boxes, and I fixed some coloring of
links. You may have to force-refresh the page to see the changes (CTRL
+ F5)
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:15 AM, John Roper wrote:
> Also, I should note that the text on my design is actually larger than
> that on the current w
Once we agree on the particulars for this page, I will make one more
page and then start to integrate with the textinfo docs.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Paul wrote:
> On 11/30/2016 09:19 AM, John Roper wrote:
>
>> I added a small shadow to the boxes, and I fixed some coloring
t;
> I feel we are not arguing at a level here where agreement or
> disagreement makes any sense with regard to arriving at a consensus.
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I updated the font with a serif font that looks good to me. Please,
what do you think?
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:44 PM, John Roper wrote:
> I wanted to do that, but I got so much dislike from the community
> members about the design, I redid it in a way that would be more
> pleasin
>I like it, thanks!
No problem, I do too!
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>
>> I updated the font (again) and I think it works for everyone's
>> requests.
>
> I like it, thanks!
>
>
> Werner
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I updated the font (again) and I think it works for everyone's requests.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:47 PM, John Roper wrote:
>>Can you try such a beast (whatever you recommend)?
> Ok, I will take a look at it.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
>>
e-a-sans-serif-font-that-appears-different-for-i-capital-i-and-l-small
>
> Can you try such a beast (whatever you recommend)?
>
>
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>Are you aware of Steve Gibson's Pure-CSS Menu System?
I am but I'd rather not use it.
I am working on the download page. Just click on the download link in
the menubar to see how it looks.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Karlin High wrote:
> On 11/30/2016 3:51 PM, John Roper
wrote:
> On 11/30/2016 4:06 PM, John Roper wrote:
> >> Are you aware of Steve Gibson's Pure-CSS Menu System?
> > I am but I'd rather not use it.
>
> Sure, no problem.
>
> > I am working on the download page. Just click on the download link in
> > the m
>Thanks for working on this, John.
No problem!
On Nov 30, 2016 6:07 PM, "Carl Sorensen" wrote:
> Thanks, Paul.
>
> My favorite of these is the current (second) sans-serif font. I didn't
> think I would like it better than the current web page, but I do.
>
> Thanks for working on this, John.
>
>
I am prepared to take my design and start to convert it over to the text
info generator (at least on the home page).
On Nov 30, 2016 6:29 PM, "Carl Sorensen" wrote:
>
>
> On 11/30/16 2:58 PM, "Noeck" wrote:
>
> >
> >I was a bit disappointed that the suggestions have narrowed down so
> >quickly
I am going to put the code in a GitHub repo for now so that I can keep
track of it.
On Nov 30, 2016 6:53 PM, "John Roper" wrote:
> I am prepared to take my design and start to convert it over to the text
> info generator (at least on the home page).
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 6
https://github.com/johnroper100/LilyPond-Web-Redesign
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:55 PM, John Roper wrote:
> I am going to put the code in a GitHub repo for now so that I can keep track
> of it.
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 6:53 PM, "John Roper" wrote:
>>
>> I am pr
So, does texinfo create all the markup and you add the styling, or do
you add some of the markup? If so, where is it?
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:07 PM, John Roper wrote:
> https://github.com/johnroper100/LilyPond-Web-Redesign
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:55 PM, John Roper wrote:
>
What I had to do for the new design was create entirely new markup
from scratch. If it is not possible to use that, we have no new
design.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:21 PM, John Roper wrote:
> So, does texinfo create all the markup and you add the styling, or do
> you add some of the mark
Why specifically do we *need* to use textinfo? If I could make a new
system that would auto generate the docs that works with the current
system would you use it?
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:23 PM, John Roper wrote:
> What I had to do for the new design was create entirely new markup
>
Why is the website auto generated? What content is auto generated or
is it just setup that way so that it is always built to the latest
version for releases?
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:52 PM, Paul wrote:
> On 11/30/2016 04:51 PM, John Roper wrote:
>
>> OK, I removed the JavaScript dr
e.
>
> Cheers,
> - Graham
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 07:48:53PM -0500, John Roper wrote:
>> Why specifically do we *need* to use textinfo? If I could make a new
>> system that would auto generate the docs that works with the current
>> system would you use it?
>&
Ok, here are my updates on the lilypond-website.css.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Paul wrote:
> On 11/30/2016 08:01 PM, John Roper wrote:
>
>> Why is the website auto generated? What content is auto generated or
>> is it just setup that way so that it is always built to the
Ok, I tested, and I made some more fixes.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:18 PM, John Roper wrote:
> Ok, here are my updates on the lilypond-website.css.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:53 PM, Paul wrote:
>> On 11/30/2016 08:01 PM, John Roper wrote:
>>
>>> Why is th
And another fix for links.
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:35 PM, John Roper wrote:
> Ok, I tested, and I made some more fixes.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:18 PM, John Roper wrote:
>> Ok, here are my updates on the lilypond-website.css.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:53
ecause it is very uniform, not
> distracting from the contents.
>
>
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I saw that. The text does not scale as it should so I need to fix that. It
wasn't very high on my priority list.
On Dec 1, 2016 6:19 AM, "Urs Liska" wrote:
>
>
> Am 01.12.2016 um 12:14 schrieb John Roper:
> >> So, in my experience as a professional (web) desi
My css file is a proposed inclusion into the website.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Carl Sorensen wrote:
>
>
> On 11/30/16 6:53 PM, "Paul" wrote:
>
>>On 11/30/2016 08:01 PM, John Roper wrote:
>>
>>> Why is the website auto generated? What conten
a small change; this CSS file includes a few changes at
> once, and that makes it harder to view how this file has changed
> over time. Would you be willing to send a file which only changes
> the navbar, for example?
>
> Cheers,
> - Graham
>
>
>>Am 07.12.2016 um 11:24 schrieb Phil Holmes:
>> it would be too much effort to fix something so minor
>From my naive point of view, there is something inherently wrong with a
>website system if it is too much effort to correct a typo...
>Joram
LOL doesn't this sound familiar?
_
>> Why this unwarranted hostility?
?
>And my view is, if
> you refuse to use JavaScript, or try to run a defunct browser, that's your
> problem.
That is my view too. I understand about your blind users, but you can
view a javascript-enabled website with a text website. It is possible.
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