Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-04 Thread Peter Oberparleiter
On 03.03.2021 16:36, Alan Altmark wrote: > On Wednesday, 03/03/2021 at 02:25 GMT, Peter Oberparleiter > wrote: >> 3. Use the ASCII Console as Linux console >> >> - add "console=ttyS1" to kernel parameters in /etc/zipl.conf >> (mind the upper-case S) >> - run zipl + reboot >> >> During boot you

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-04 Thread Dave Jones
This is a good idea, imho. Right now, as I understand things, the main driver of the z architecture growth is Linux based workloads, so the more we ("we" == IBM) can make the z platform behave like the other platforms, the easier it will be for IBM to sell z boxes into distributed-oriented sites.

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-03 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/03/2021 at 02:25 GMT, Peter Oberparleiter wrote: > 3. Use the ASCII Console as Linux console > > - add "console=ttyS1" to kernel parameters in /etc/zipl.conf > (mind the upper-case S) > - run zipl + reboot > > During boot you should see all Linux console output on the ASCII >

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-03 Thread Peter Oberparleiter
On 01.03.2021 21:26, Davis, Larry (National VM Capability) wrote: > What are people doing when the local Linux people are wanting ASCII Consoles > available for performing reboots or problem resolution > > I know I can attach the SYSASCII (HMC ASCII vt220 console) to a Linux image > > Does the

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-03 Thread Christian Borntraeger
On 02.03.21 21:56, Dave Jones wrote: Thinking about this a little more, I think what would be nice to have is something along the lines of the OSA-ICC, which presents locally attached 3270 device to the O/S, but is reachable via TCP/IP. We could call it the OSA-ASC and it would present a

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2021-03-02, at 17:48:48, Jim Elliott wrote: > > There was a product called the Yale IUP and later product version the 7171 > Device Attachment Control Unit which "converted" ASCII displays (like the > IBM 3101) into 3270 protocol devices. > > Later there was the 3174 Controller > with the

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-02 Thread Jim Elliott
There was a product called the Yale IUP and later product version the 7171 Device Attachment Control Unit which "converted" ASCII displays (like the IBM 3101) into 3270 protocol devices. Later there was the 3174 Controller with the Asynchronous Emulator Adapter (AEA) which is what I think you are

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2021-03-02, at 11:18:25, Fred Shaheen wrote: > > > The ASCII controller was the 7171, developed by Dr. Wehrle's team in the > Glendale Lab in the 1980's. > I believe that was a successor and embedded the "Yale ASCII" which was based on an IBM Series 1 minicomputer. Those provided the hardware

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-02 Thread Robert J Brenneman
I thought it would be cool if the hardware platform could emulate a set of Keyboard/Video/Mouse devices via pretend PCI devices presented into the LPAR that hook into like a VNC / RemoteDesktop / SPICE software service that runs on the SE or HMC. If you virtualize it like pretend PCI devices (

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-02 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/02/2021 at 08:56 GMT, Dave Jones wrote: > Thinking about this a little more, I think what would be nice to have is > something along the lines of the OSA-ICC, which presents locally > attached 3270 device to the O/S, but is reachable via TCP/IP. > > We could call it the OSA-ASC

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2021-03-02, at 09:38:54, Dave Jones wrote: > > I wonder how hard it would be for z/VM to emulate, or virtualize, a > VT220 type terminal? > In days of yore, there was a hardware solution. The 3174(?) Asynchronous Emulation Adapter. I don't remember the configuration I tried, but it made an

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-02 Thread Dave Jones
Thinking about this a little more, I think what would be nice to have is something along the lines of the OSA-ICC, which presents locally attached 3270 device to the O/S, but is reachable via TCP/IP. We could call it the OSA-ASC and it would present a locally attached VT220 to either Linux

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-02 Thread Fred Shaheen
we actually do that makes any difference.' Mark Sanborn From: Paul Gilmartin To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: 03/02/2021 12:07 PM Subject:[EXTERNAL] Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images Sent by:Linux on 390 Port On 2021-03-02, at 09:38:54, Dave Jones wrote: >

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-02 Thread Davis, Larry (National VM Capability)
That is what, I thought the SYSASCII device was designed for? Larry Davis (z/VM Team) -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 12:06 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-02 Thread Dave Jones
I wonder how hard it would be for z/VM to emulate, or virtualize, a VT220 type terminal? DJ --- DAVID JONES | MANAGING DIRECTOR FOR ZSYSTEMS SERVICES | z/VM, Linux, and Cloud 703.237.7370 (Office) | 281.578.7544 (CELL) INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY COMPANY On 03.01.2021 2:00 PM, Mark Post wrote: On

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-01 Thread Mark Post
On 3/1/21 3:49 PM, Dave Jones wrote: > Have you considered using the IBM Terminal Server for > zLinux? > The Terminal Server is part of the s390-tools package and > permits normal access to other zLinux guests running > on the same z/VM system, even if they are not > connected to a working TCP/IP

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-01 Thread Davis, Larry (National VM Capability)
) Subject: Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images Have you considered using the IBM Terminal Server for zLinux? The Terminal Server is part of the s390-tools package and permits normal access to other zLinux guests running on the same z/VM system, even if they are not connected to a working TCP/IP network

Re: SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-01 Thread Dave Jones
Have you considered using the IBM Terminal Server for zLinux? The Terminal Server is part of the s390-tools package and permits normal access to other zLinux guests running on the same z/VM system, even if they are not connected to a working TCP/IP network. This permits the use of common Linux

SYSASCII Console for Linux images

2021-03-01 Thread Davis, Larry (National VM Capability)
What are people doing when the local Linux people are wanting ASCII Consoles available for performing reboots or problem resolution I know I can attach the SYSASCII (HMC ASCII vt220 console) to a Linux image Does the Linux image need to include "ttys1" in the /etc/zipl.conf file for RHEL 7.5