Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-25 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Oron Peled wrote: On Thursday, 22 בMay 2008, Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Mike Kemelmakher, from the post of Thu, 22 May: I completely agree and support Gilads opinion - developing commercial product on Fedora is a bad idea. great. so we all agree. No we don't ;-)

Ulteo-like for CentOS (was: Re: RHEL-family dev environment)

2008-05-25 Thread Amos Shapira
2008/5/25 Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The developers work on Windows workstations. In the good scenario they pull an Eclipse session with X windows. In the bad scenario they run Linux + Eclipse and toolchain in VMware. In the really bad situation they program everything in Visual

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-23 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 11:04:00AM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: 2008/5/23 Oron Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Another advantage in this kind of setup, is that when people develop on Fedora (while integrating with RedHat/Centos) they have a looking glass into the next RedHat/Centos release.

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-22 Thread Mike Kemelmakher
I completely agree and support Gilads opinion - developing commercial product on Fedora is a bad idea. -Mike Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote: Oron Peled wrote: On Monday, 5 בMay 2008, Ira Abramov wrote: which brings me to the question - should I stick to Fedora (7? 8?) for the devel environment

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-22 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Mike Kemelmakher, from the post of Thu, 22 May: I completely agree and support Gilads opinion - developing commercial product on Fedora is a bad idea. great. so we all agree. Fedora is bad for production. also RHEL/CentOS because it's missing a lot of packages and external repos

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-22 Thread Oron Peled
On Thursday, 22 בMay 2008, Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Mike Kemelmakher, from the post of Thu, 22 May: I completely agree and support Gilads opinion - developing commercial product on Fedora is a bad idea. great. so we all agree. No we don't ;-) Fedora is bad for production. That's

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-22 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Hi, 2008/5/22 Oron Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thursday, 22 בMay 2008, Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Mike Kemelmakher, from the post of Thu, 22 May: I completely agree and support Gilads opinion - developing commercial product on Fedora is a bad idea. great. so we all agree. I do Agree

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-22 Thread Amos Shapira
2008/5/23 Oron Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Another advantage in this kind of setup, is that when people develop on Fedora (while integrating with RedHat/Centos) they have a looking glass into the next RedHat/Centos release. This means that if they started few months ago using Fedora-8, by the

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-07 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Gilad Ben-Yossef, from the post of Tue, 06 May: Ira Abramov wrote: centos5. I recommended against it, the client insisted, now we are seeing it's buggy as hell I would say that claiming that CentOS5 is not a good development environment for a

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-07 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 16:40 +0300, Ira Abramov wrote: you may remember a few weeks ago, I was asking about KDE and kdevelop for centos5. I recommended against it, the client insisted, now we are seeing it's buggy as hell, the kde4RHEL repositories give us binaries newer than what Ubuntu

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-07 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 10:25 +0300, Gilboa Davara wrote: On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 16:40 +0300, Ira Abramov wrote: you may remember a few weeks ago, I was asking about KDE and kdevelop for centos5. I recommended against it, the client insisted, now we are seeing it's buggy as hell, the kde4RHEL

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-07 Thread Amos Shapira
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Gilboa Davara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. as other have mentioned, if the machines are being used for development and testing, CentOS should be OK. If the machines are being used for production (servers, machines that will end up in your client's hands,

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-07 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Gilboa Davara, from the post of Wed, 07 May: - Gilboa [1] http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/ yup, that's the repo that supplies us with a really unstable kdevelop... P.S. as other have mentioned, if the machines are being used for development and testing, CentOS should be OK.

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-07 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 22:21 +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Gilboa Davara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. as other have mentioned, if the machines are being used for development and testing, CentOS should be OK. If the machines are being used for production

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-07 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 15:26 +0300, Ira Abramov wrote: Quoting Gilboa Davara, from the post of Wed, 07 May: - Gilboa [1] http://kde-redhat.sourceforge.net/ yup, that's the repo that supplies us with a really unstable kdevelop... Have you reported the problem in the kde-redhat ML?

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-06 Thread Ira Abramov
Quoting Gilad Ben-Yossef, from the post of Tue, 06 May: Ira Abramov wrote: centos5. I recommended against it, the client insisted, now we are seeing it's buggy as hell I would say that claiming that CentOS5 is not a good development environment for a program that will deployed on

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-05 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo
Ira, which repository did you use for the KDE RPMS? what centos shipped with or from kde-redhat.sf.net? The ones that comes with Centos are crappy as hell. Thanks, Hetz On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you may remember a few weeks ago, I was asking about KDE

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-05 Thread Amos Shapira
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:40 PM, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you may remember a few weeks ago, I was asking about KDE and kdevelop for centos5. I recommended against it, the client insisted, now we are seeing it's buggy as hell, the kde4RHEL repositories give us binaries newer than

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-05 Thread Oron Peled
On Monday, 5 בMay 2008, Ira Abramov wrote: which brings me to the question - should I stick to Fedora (7? 8?) for the devel environment and break from the RPM world and go for Lenny or Hardy? Generally, the requirements of any enterprise/stable distributions are bad for developers by

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-05 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Ira Abramov wrote: you may remember a few weeks ago, I was asking about KDE and kdevelop for centos5. I recommended against it, the client insisted, now we are seeing it's buggy as hell, the kde4RHEL repositories give us binaries newer than what Ubuntu offers, but it gets stuck and sometimes

Re: RHEL-family dev environment

2008-05-05 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
Oron Peled wrote: On Monday, 5 בMay 2008, Ira Abramov wrote: which brings me to the question - should I stick to Fedora (7? 8?) for the devel environment and break from the RPM world and go for Lenny or Hardy? Generally, the requirements of any enterprise/stable distributions are bad