John S Veitch wrote:
I've re-written pages from several sites where the government paid
big money to top web design companies. It's rare to find pages
that were not written in a WYSIWYG editor. It's cheap and easy to
employ a relatively unskilled person to do. It even works quite
Perhaps we need two. linux-users and linux-users-list-politics
(I'd only subcribe to the first :)
miT
gee...just trying to help
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 09:50, Nick Rout wrote:
read the question, he wants pci not external!
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:19:44 +1300
Simon Hansman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think as long as you avoid win-modems you'll be fine. External modems
are usually (if always?)
In his defence it would be lax of him if it would have been favourable to
get an external and the person buying the moden had no idea... what's the
saying... knowledge is power?
--Slosh
- Original Message -
From: Simon Hansman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday,
Will do as soon as it propagates to the archive.
Wow I bugger off to Auckland for a few days and CLUG gets a organised!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'll second Carl's comment. I will add that now people have wanted to
organise meetings a little better, there are
Certainly doing it yourself can help avoid letting the world know your
computer's OS and application details - a security detail that Microsoft HTM
violates with glee.
Wesley Parish
On Thursday 30 January 2003 10:18 am, you wrote:
My understanding was in order to create high standard web
On Thursday 30 January 2003 05:14 pm, you wrote:
Ok, I can understand MYOB, the stubbord bastards refuse to port to Linux
but an open source program is the works to replicate its functionality
from what I hear. Now, as for Excel, what about gnumeric?? I can open
excel spreadsheets with it just
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 12:16:13PM +1300, John S Veitch wrote:
[...] none of the pages in my site display properly
in Mozilla because Mozilla doesn't read the style sheets. The
question is why?
[...]
http://www.ate.co.nz/
When I go here:
Replies quoted below
Jason, here http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0208/msg00606.html you
offered to talk on one of those subjects that interested you, what
happenned? maybe you felt you needed to be asked. HAving the dubious
honour of being on the meeting committee I'm gonna get you along
Will do as soon as it propagates to the archive.
Wow I bugger off to Auckland for a few days and CLUG
gets a organised!
Arr.. there's the first problem.. you went to
auckland.. :)
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For Linux CD's check out http://www.xsolutions.co.nz
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- What's
David A. Mann said...
When people pay for web designers they get web *designers*. Not coders.
The emphasis is on design, layout and navigation which is why a lot of
web designers have a background in graphic design. WYSIWYG tools are
there to abstract the design from the code. As such, the
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Jason wrote:
I still think a meeting in 2 halves is best. First half GUI and app
based discussions/presentations. Second half, CLI/programming oriented
discussion. We start the halves at preset times, then, if people didn't
want to stay for the second half they could
I was just thinking the same thing - there is an awful lot of mail to wade
through at the moment - hopefully just a temporary glitch!
Lance B
From: Tim Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mailing-lists
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 21:33:08 +1300
Thanks Tim =)
What does the list think of this idea??
Cheers
J
Tim Wright wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Jason wrote:
I still think a meeting in 2 halves is best. First half GUI and app
based discussions/presentations. Second half, CLI/programming oriented
discussion. We start
It gets my vote
Lance B
From: Jason Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: There is no CLUG
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:03:25 +1300
Thanks Tim =)
What does the list think of this idea??
Cheers
J
Tim Wright wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan
Jason Greenwood wrote:
What does the list think of this idea??
The list thinks that the meeting after next has no speaker,
and you are volunteering to do a half-meeting talk :-)
Thanks.
Now we need another speaker for the other half.
Cheers,
Carl.
Done, I volunteer for the first half. I wil be putting a selection of
topics together in the next couple of days. As I doubt there will be
time to discuss them all, I will ask that the list vote for a couple of
them so I can select the ones people want to hear about most. Once that
is done, I
man as that came thru i was writing to the other committee members
suggesting we arrange just that!
good on you jason.
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 09:31:24 +1300
Jason Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Done, I volunteer for the first half. I wil be putting a selection of
topics together in the next
I keep getting this when I post to the list. Looks like someone on the
list hasn't emptied their hotmail box in a while and this is prompting
the autoresponse. Can Zane remove the address please??
Cheers
Jason
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is an automatically generated Delivery Status
Yeah I've just been speaking to another list member about this.
I discussed how much I dislike Hotmail :-/
and also stated the fact that I am wary about just deleting people from
the list arbitrarily.
My rule of thumb is 48hrs of the address misbehaving then I will remove
it. There are some
Does anyone know the install fest's mailing list? I seem to have missed it (or
misplaced it)??
Glenn.
http://www.linuxnut.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/installfest
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:45:05 +1300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know the install fest's mailing list? I seem to have missed it (or
misplaced it)??
Glenn.
--
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good policy. Seems like it has worked well thus far. I was just a bit annoyed
at the constant autoresponse... ;)
Cheers
J
Zane Gilmore wrote:
Yeah I've just been speaking to another list member about this.
I discussed how much I dislike Hotmail :-/
and also stated the fact that I am
Hi all,
I am just about ready to open the Open Source Technology Centre. There are
still a few things to do, but I have decided to open and do the rest of the
setup as training courses for those who are interested.
I know it is short notice if you are interested, but this is what I will be
Jason,
I think, from memory, I was one of the participants in that 'GUI vs CLI'
flamewar (and not on your side either ;) However that's long forgotten, I
just wanted to say I think your idea of meeting topics being oriented in 2
halves is a good one, and I'm sorry if I didn't speak up at the
No worries mate. A bit of friendly banter keeps the heart (and mind) in
shape!! I look forward to seeing how things work at the next (actually I
think it's 2 meetings away, since the next meeting is a help and
troubleshooting meeting right?) meeting.
Regards,
Jason Greenwood
Gareth Williams
Original Message ---
Hi all,
I am just about ready to open the Open Source Technology Centre. There are
still a few things to do, but I have decided to open and do the rest of the
setup as training courses for those who are interested.
I know it is short notice if you are
Kevin asked:
Do the courses cost anything tomorrow
Yep, the prices are on http://ostc.dyndns.org/join.html.
Later
David Kirk
Glenn wrote:
Can somebody point me to the OSTC Forum? I think I may have
missed it somehow.
Sorry, I haven't had time to set the forum up yet. I will be doing that
tomorrow.
Later
David Kirk
Hello Everyone
It's clear that there is no CLUG, but many people before me have
expressed surprise at that and like me have looked to improve the
function of the local Linux community by doing some very obvious
things.
Nick Elder :
I MOVE THAT THE CLUG MEETING THIS COMING WEDNESDAY BE A
For heavens sake John, if you read the list properly you would know that
the people on this list (ie CLUG to the extent that it exists) don't
feel the need for anything more formal than we now have. What
unfulfilled need are you trying to address, apart from a (perceived)
need for structure?
John wrote:
There should be nothing controversial in the above suggestion. All
the power of the Executive Committee is in the hands of the five
people already appointed who group members already know, respect and
trust. Since we are doing some new things it might be beneficial to
use
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:52, John S Veitch wrote:
Nick Elder :
I MOVE THAT THE CLUG MEETING THIS COMING WEDNESDAY BE A GENERAL
MEETING AND THAT AT THIS MEETING WE FORM AN EXECUTIVE !
Christopher Sawtell:
I second that!
While I did indeed write that, I want to make it perfectly clear to
Christopher Sawtell wrote:
Personally, I have got neither the time nor the emotional energy to get
involved with either a strictured, or a structured organisation. I'll just
have to walk away from it if that happens. I hope not.
Funnily enough, the 5 people elected to the committee probably
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 16:12, Carl Cerecke wrote:
Anybody have any Linux questions?
GNOME or KDE?
:-P
--
Michael JasonSmith http://www.cosc.canterbury.ac.nz/~mpj17/
Michael JasonSmith wrote:
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 16:12, Carl Cerecke wrote:
Anybody have any Linux questions?
GNOME or KDE?
For you, Michael, twm.
Cheers,
Carl.
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 16:29, Carl Cerecke wrote:
Michael JasonSmith wrote:
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 16:12, Carl Cerecke wrote:
Anybody have any Linux questions?
GNOME or KDE?
For you, Michael, twm.
socks:~# ps auxw | grep twm
criggie 763 0.0 0.1 3228 1464 ?SJan30 0:02
[and now for something a little less 'political']
I am setting up mutt on my laptop (low specs, so I want to use as many text
based apps as possible). It gets mail from the pop server fine (specified one
in the mutt config file). But when I send mail, it seems to want to send it
thru the local
i am testing the list
Carl Cerecke wrote:
Christopher Sawtell wrote:
Personally, I have got neither the time nor the emotional energy to get
involved with either a strictured, or a structured organisation. I'll
just
have to walk away from it if that happens. I hope not.
Funnily enough, the 5 people elected to the
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 17:49, Gareth Williams wrote:
[and now for something a little less 'political']
Amen.
Does anyone speak /etc/sendmail.cf ? ;-)
Err, yup.
I have never seen a config file such as this - obfusticated is an
Oh come on. It's not *that* bad. At least its 7 bit. :)
Hi,
I am trying to run kazaa on linux but I keep getting the error Couldnt load
TopSearch.dll . I have tried kazaa lite versions 1.7.x, 2.0.0,2.0.2 . I am
running mandrake 9.0.
Thanks
Sounds good to me
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 09:03, Jason Greenwood wrote:
Thanks Tim =)
What does the list think of this idea??
Cheers
J
Tim Wright wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Jason wrote:
I still think a meeting in 2 halves is best. First half GUI and app
based
Robert wrote:
Damn!
I am interested in this stuff but cannot make it tomorrow.
Yeah, sorry about the short notice. When the forum is up and running, you
should post a message saying you want to learn about it. I can probably
teach it again if nobody else offers.
Later
David Kirk
I have one ( trying to learn bash scripting )
Is there an easier/better way for a user to obtain ppp0 ip address than
IP=$(netstat -rn | grep UH | cut -d -f1 | head -n 1)
perl -le 'print `/sbin/ifconfig eth0`=~/inet addr:(\S+)/'
John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358
Hi there,
I'm relatively new to Linux, and I've got three wee problems
right now.
1. I cannot get SANE to talk to my Epson Perfection 1260 USB
scanner. It can be seen easily by USB Devices, I have trouble
installing the appropriate backend...
2. I cannot install Mplayer (RPM versions from
Col wrote:
I have one ( trying to learn bash scripting )
Is there an easier/better way for a user to obtain ppp0 ip address than
IP=$(netstat -rn | grep UH | cut -d -f1 | head -n 1)
IP=$(netstat -rn | grep UH | awk '{print $1}')
Adrian
Gareth Williams wrote:
[and now for something a little less 'political']
Also, I understand it's not good to run sendmail if you don't have it properly
configured (even if it was configured as an open relay though, for argument
sake, it's behind a firewall). Still, this is my first time
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 19:08, Chris Wilkinson wrote:
2. I cannot install Mplayer (RPM versions from net). There are
a few dependency issues, although I believe I already have the
right libs needed already. I'd like to get this one going since
the video apps supplied by my MDK 9.0
I completely agree.
On Friday 31 Jan 2003 5:19 am, Robert Fisher wrote:
Thanks Nick.
Here here!
On Fri, 2003-01-31 at 14:12, Nick Rout wrote:
For heavens sake John, if you read the list properly you would know that
the people on this list (ie CLUG to the extent that it exists) don't
John Carter wrote:
I have one ( trying to learn bash scripting )
Is there an easier/better way for a user to obtain ppp0 ip address than
IP=$(netstat -rn | grep UH | cut -d -f1 | head -n 1)
perl -le 'print `/sbin/ifconfig eth0`=~/inet addr:(\S+)/'
John Carter
hello all,
I am wanting to replace redhat 7.3 on my laptop with Slackware 8 and I
have prickly PCMCIA settings. Does anyone know where the pcmcia settings
are kept so I can copy them over when slackware is installed. (i.e. put
on floppy then put back on laptop). Also opinons on Slackware
Look for this
# Smart relay host (may be null)
DS
And fill in the blank bit after DS with the fqdn of your upstream relay.
Thanks very much, that was what I was looking for. Works perfectly now :-)
Cheers,
Gareth
Assuming you do actually have the required dll file, and the case matches (it
could well be case sensitive) then... the first thing that comes to mind is
to look in your ~/.wine/config file - I don't have one to check against atm,
but I seem to remember something about dll load order
Hi all,
otCouldn't be bothered reading the threads there is no clug blahh blahh
blahh Seems Like Someones Angry so didn't even bother opening0/ot
Well anyway
I installed mandrake 8 on a box with 256 m ram and p11 330mhz (i think
thats right) well i installed cups because it seems to be the only
How many versions of Wine are there and what is the difference?
Regards,
Kevin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nah, there's nothing wrong with mplayer, and it works better than xine in my
experience. If you're having trouble with the precompiled binaries, try
downloading and compiling from source, worked fine for me :-)
(almost straight off from memory ;-)
Cheers,
Gareth
On Friday 31 January 2003
I
still think a meeting in 2 halves is best. First half GUI and
appbased discussions/presentations. Second half, CLI/programming
orienteddiscussion. We start the halves at preset times, then,
if people didn'twant to stay for the second half they could
leave. Conversly, they couldcome ONLY
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 18:01, Col wrote:
Is there an easier/better way for a user to obtain ppp0 ip address than
IP=$(netstat -rn | grep UH | cut -d -f1 | head -n 1)
Quoting the pppd man page
/etc/ppp/ip-up
A program or script which is executed when the link
is
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