Re: Horse reboot on Friday night

2005-09-04 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 07:32:25PM +1200, Wesley Parish wrote: If I'm not mistaken, horse is named after the character in Footrot Flats. The big cat who don't take no nonsense from anyone, and who rescues The Dog at a crucial point in the movie of the same name. horse, cat, dog? great, now

Re: video editing with mplayer

2005-08-24 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 06:31:58PM +1200, Nick Rout wrote: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/7252?CMP=OTC-0O724Z062301 Actually editing is an overstatement. The video file is untouched, you just watch it chopped. true, but i am expecting to be able to write out the chopped version to a new

Re: video editing with mplayer

2005-08-24 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 04:07:24PM +1200, Nick Rout wrote: although i can't figure out why anyone would want to remove jar jar. he and his kind and the ewoks are my favourite star-wars characters. well that makes two of you in the known universe (my 9 year old being the other). well, tell

Re: Anti-Tip

2005-07-27 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 10:42:47PM +1200, Michael JasonSmith wrote: If one wanted that, then one would start an X-session on a different virtual terminal of one's machine. Not that this one can figure out how to do that, as Fedora has rather strict security that removes the network from the

Re: horse downtime on Saturday / scrounging motherboard

2005-05-31 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 03:36:17PM +1200, Craig FALCONER wrote: Thanks Martin - I got one off ebay for $69 NZ. how did you find that? when we had the discussion i was actually trying to find one on ebay but i had no luck. greetings, martin. -- cooperative communication with sTeam -

Re: horse downtime on Saturday / scrounging motherboard

2005-05-25 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 07:33:23PM +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: 1 x IBM PS/1 '486$50 2 x 3Com ethernet cards $10 2 x 16 megs memory SIMMs $?? -- out of 'bits' drawer. dont forget the cdrom drive or a hard disk. it all adds up... so if you buy stuff to build a

Re: [OT] Murphy's Law

2005-05-24 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 11:15:52AM +1200, Michael JasonSmith wrote: murphy was an optimist. Not really. Capt. Edward A. Murphy, the US Army Air-Force technician, was someone who had to work with others, and it got him down now and again oh come one, do you have to distort a nice and catchy

Re: horse downtime on Saturday / scrounging motherboard

2005-05-24 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 11:01:28AM +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: And blowing a couple hundred dollars on something that needs the warranty voided to do what is needed, isn’t really that useful. i expect that it is still cheaper than any other hardware for the same purpose. who cares

Re: apt-customise

2005-05-16 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 01:40:38AM +1200, Rik Tindall wrote: so i actually nfs-mounted /var/cache/apt/archives/ from the other workstation, so there were two locally-visible /var/cache/apt/archives/ ? no, the originally local one is hidden by the mount. only the remote one will be visible.

Re: Pike Python perennial

2005-05-16 Thread Martin Baehr
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:24:18AM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: For large applications you should be looking at compiled languages - C, C++, Pascal,... all of which are far more mature than python, pike and the like. Anyway, the choice of language is far less important than a proper design

Re: scripting vs dynamic languages (was: Scripting talks) (new thread)

2005-05-16 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 10:47:07AM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: I'm sorry, but it's the *operating system* that provides the ability to glue programs together. *nix os's work fine, but try using the tools you describe on one of Wesleys toys and see how much glue you find. To the best of my

Re: Pike Python perennial

2005-05-15 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 04:47:13PM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: quote Chris A series of how you do scripts evenings quote Martin i have ordered the languages you are quoting chris and me without explaining why. your point? greetings, martin. -- cooperative communication with sTeam -

Re: Pike Python perennial

2005-05-15 Thread Martin Baehr
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 06:24:18AM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: by default, register_globals = off. that does not help me when my users ask me to run applications that require it to be on. Anyway, that last sentence is like my own personal sentiment that 'KDE is crap', which was true when I

Re: Pike Python perennial

2005-05-15 Thread Martin Baehr
On Mon, May 16, 2005 at 11:30:36AM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: that does not help me when my users ask me to run applications that require it to be on. So warn them and just switch it on for their own application. What's the problem? They can only hurt themselves. but i am the one made

Re: Pike Python perennial

2005-05-14 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 03:28:25PM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: Troll, or just *extremely* misleading? neither. please elaborate. where do you disagree? greetings, martin. -- cooperative communication with sTeam - caudium, pike, roxen and unix offering: programming, training and

Re: Pike Python perennial

2005-05-14 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 03:52:04PM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: 1. The shell. Has full logic capabilities, and is very useful for setting up stuff that needs only a few lines throwing together that's what i meant too. a few lines 2. PHP. Now this is the one I *really* object to. All the

Re: Pike Python perennial

2005-05-14 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 04:37:14PM +1200, Steve Holdoway wrote: agreed. however, it is still good for stuff that is to complex for shells. perl at least was designed to replace shell scripts and it works well in that area. ok, i realize that this statement is to broad when taken out of

[ot] yuris car?

2005-02-18 Thread Martin Baehr
hi, seems yuri got a new car: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/coolpaintjob.html greetings, martin. -- cooperative communication with sTeam and psyc | caudium, pike, roxen and unix offering: programming, training and administration. anywhere in the world -- pike programmer travelling and working

Re: programming at school (was Re: OT tha old days WAS Gentoo installation-fest?)

2005-02-15 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 03:55:42PM +1300, Jim Cheetham wrote: each of woody, sarge, warty and hoary represent a different snapshot of the debian universe. Yes, except for the case where ubuntu/* packages (warty, hoary, etc) have had modifications made that are not accepted by Debian. At which

Re: programming at school (was Re: OT tha old days WAS Gentoo installation-fest?)

2005-02-14 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 03:13:15PM +1300, Jim Cheetham wrote: warty and hoary are just different collections of debian packages, just as woody, sarge and sid are. all of those are in a different state of flux, and normaly you should not mix them. All the packages in ubuntu/*/main are

Re: Security vs Convenience (Was: Hint for the Day - sux doesn't)

2005-01-30 Thread Martin Baehr
On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 02:04:34PM +1300, yuri wrote: If you trust the members of your household, having lax security for convenience on the home side of the firewall, but with a darn good firewall between the LAN and the internet is an okay solution - even if it makes the

Re: Hint for the Day - sux doesn't

2005-01-25 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 03:05:52PM +1300, John Carter wrote: speaking of funny apps, i remember someone mentioning an app that would have a bee fly accross any screens it could connect to. even with sound. anyone came accross that beast? Try xroach, it should suitably gross out the chosen

Re: OT: Python book Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner

2005-01-05 Thread Martin Baehr
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 12:59:44PM +1300, Carl Cerecke wrote: I've never seen anybody learn their first computer language without a book of some sort. Even experienced programmers need books to learn a language. where do you get that idea? i didn't learn any of my languages from a book.

Re: OT - Homeschooling.

2004-12-17 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 01:15:37AM +1300, Timothy Musson wrote: is this the point where i introduce my 85 year old grandmother who is using linux with emacs, LaTeX and mutt? ;-) Is this the point where I introduce my 84 year old grandfather who's been running Debian GNU/Linux and teaching

Re: OT: Pike answer to Python programming question

2004-11-01 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 08:13:54AM +1300, Carl Cerecke wrote: array ls=({ 1,2,3,4,5,6 }); array pairs=ls/2; ({ ({ 1,2 }), ({ 3,4 }), ({ 5,6 }) }) List division! Very convenient feature. You can get list division in python by subclassing list and defining the __div__ method (if you really

Re: Pike Users Worldwide Converge on Essen Next Week

2004-10-05 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 04:28:13PM +1300, Carl Cerecke wrote: I'll stick with python, thanks :-) (Unless there's some major advantage of pike over python that I'm missing) speed and true encapsulation. (python objects don't have private data, (at least they didn't last we checked) sTeam,

Re: Pike Users Worldwide Converge on Essen Next Week

2004-10-05 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 05:03:42PM +1300, Carl Cerecke wrote: Python is not as slow as it used to be. Especially with packages like psyco (a dynamic x86 optimiser for python) it can approach the speed of C for some code. In fact, it can even be *faster* than C, because it can do dynamic

Re: encrypted emailing

2004-09-04 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 10:58:05AM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: I'm not sure whether you aren't overestimating the privacy value of received:. They look all the same, therefore not of real value to Snoopy. Since most mailing lists are too stupid to strip it, it's already public anyway,

Re: encrypted emailing

2004-09-04 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 12:57:05PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: i disagree. it is a question of customer demand that all isps start supporting smtp over tls or ipsec. Ok, so snoopy hacks the ISP. If you want to be safe from the cops, forget it. hacking the isp is not going to do any good

Re: encrypted emailing

2004-09-04 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 01:35:42PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: hacking the isp is not going to do any good if we are not going to use the isps mailservers. Sure, but you were arguing for customer demand at the ISP. Receiving their mail at home, i.e. running a server, is out for Joe Doe.

Re: encrypted emailing

2004-09-04 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 04:27:35AM +0200, Martin Baehr wrote: there even was a company trying to offer services in that direction. freedom network from zeroknowledge.com. (lawrence lessing and bruce schneider are on their advisory board, and i believe at one time emanuel goldstein

Re: USB hdd difficulties

2004-08-21 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 12:06:50PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: To get USB 2.0 working usefully you need a 2.6 kernel by the looks of it. no. works fine with 2.4. Definitely wrong. how is works for me definetly wrong? please be more reasonable with your use of adjectives. being

Re: Word Perfect on Linux

2004-08-11 Thread Martin Baehr
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 01:07:57PM +1200, Wesley Parish wrote: I'm thinking - if I'm fortunate enough to find a decent place to stay, secure enough to get my computer back in operation - of writing a GPLed Wordperfect 5.* clone for FreeDOS. I've already worked out how I want the central loop

Re: browser wars RNZ 11.30am

2004-07-29 Thread Martin Baehr
On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 12:20:39PM +1200, InfoHelp wrote: http://www.rnzi.com RealPlayer hopeful.. ah, that seems to work. now to actually find the right show. they don't seem to correspond... mms://streamingmedia.xtra.co.nz/live/af159992.wma?9toNoon3 mplayer accepts that, but doesn't play

Re: giving up on email

2004-04-12 Thread Martin Baehr
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 10:23:41AM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: my spamfilter is not keeping up (only catches 50% or less) dump your distro! what's my distro got to do with it? kinda overkill to change the whole distribution every time you find a single program that has a problem.

Re: giving up on email

2004-04-12 Thread Martin Baehr
On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 09:05:14AM +1200, Nick Rout wrote: of course the joke is on martin, as all such leg-pulls are to be carried out before midday. He must have forgotten the timezone differences. LOL i did not forget them, i just did not have internet access until late afternoon that day.

Re: Benefits/Drawbacks of C (was Re: something I ...)

2004-03-10 Thread Martin Baehr
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 07:19:16AM +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: How about using mixed case to make code more readable, like... of course, but that does not require that the compiler actually makes a difference between TemporaryStorage and TeMpOrArYsToRaGe though one could argue that the case

Re: Benefits/Drawbacks of C (was Re: something I ...)

2004-03-10 Thread Martin Baehr
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 09:17:42AM +1300, Carl Cerecke wrote: What is more important (most of the time), is how fast the language is to program in, not how fast it runs. absolutely. the money saved on coding can be invested into faster hardware I can code in python 5-10 times faster than

Re: What do you use Linux for?

2004-02-28 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sat, Feb 28, 2004 at 08:41:43AM +1300, G. M. Bodnar wrote: My laptop and work box are similar enough in configuration: openbox3, with 4 virtual desktops: 1) remote screen sessions (can cause nesting if I'm connecting to 2) local information screen session: 3) development screen session:

Re: That Logo...

2003-12-19 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 12:17:39PM +1300, pmw57 wrote: The danger is that if you start with a derivative and someone else then starts from your derivative, by the time a 4th person gets in to the mix the logo may not be recognisable as being Tux, or Linux related at all. that is the point i

Re: Un-Dynamics of Software Development

2003-12-05 Thread Martin Baehr
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 05:14:06PM +1300, Derek Smithies wrote: The underlying problem for all programmers is that they want to get on with the job, and get the product out there. Thus, code is written to get the job done, and ignore the long term consequences. but this is not restricted to

Re: [Fwd: [Full-Disclosure] [SECURITY] [DSA-403-1] userland can access Linux kernel memory]

2003-12-04 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 02:30:03PM +1300, Nick Rout wrote: well its very secure as long as you don't take the shrink wrap off. as long as you don't unwrap the shrink? greetings, martin. -- interested in doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium/pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen and/or

Re: digital camera

2003-11-28 Thread Martin Baehr
On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 08:57:43PM +1300, David Mann wrote: They won't know Linux from a bar of soap but they certainly know cameras. you mean they won't know this: http://www.ele.uri.edu/~dobratzp/photos/linux_detergent.html from this: http://www.hopstudios.com/ but they know this:

deleting...(was: Linux based FAT defragger?)

2003-11-11 Thread Martin Baehr
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 03:11:53PM +1300, Yuri de Groot wrote: It's taking bl--dy ages because I have to double check each item that there's nothing useful before I delete it. which is why i never delete mails. the time saved that way is much more valuable than the few bits an individual email

CDE (Was: FEDORA (RH Yarrow))

2003-11-07 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 12:19:18PM +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: 3CD set .. BTW I have been experimenting with Solaris X for i386 and I like it a lot - requires fairly standard hardware but comes with CDE (very nice) or Gnome 2 (yech). you LIKE CDE? someome get this guy a

Re: OT - DB as a filesystem

2003-11-03 Thread Martin Baehr
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 05:02:39PM +1300, Brad Beveridge wrote: consider emails. you want to search them by sender or subject maybe. currently to do that your mailprogram has to read the whole mailbox, which, if you have lots of mails, and more so if you are using maildir, can take a

Re: (OT) linux geek tramp

2003-11-03 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 01:02:51PM +1300, Carl Cerecke wrote: There are no handy waterfalls around (and I have no generator), couldn't the hot pools used for some kind of steam engine? greetings, martin. -- interested in doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium/pike/roxen training,

Re: OT - DB as a filesystem

2003-11-02 Thread Martin Baehr
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 04:30:14PM +1300, Brad Beveridge wrote: 1) I want to put my files in a directory, not some hand wavey natural language description - who knows where they might end up? 2) Won't a DB as a filesystem promote less organisation in the directory structure? erm, having a db

Re: OnT - database filesystems (was: Longhorn and MS Shenanigans)

2003-10-31 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 11:22:30AM +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: It's an interesting (longish) article on the evolution of storage. interresting reading indeed, i like the: UPS has a transferrate of 7 MB/s within the US. this is also interresting: The challenge is similar to the challenge we

Re: OnT - database filesystems (was: Longhorn and MS Shenanigans)

2003-10-30 Thread Martin Baehr
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 02:27:25PM +, Jason Greenwood wrote: It covers MS plans for Longhorn and it's 'kernel level' inbuilt search ability. As if the NT kernel was not bloated enough already... that's skewing it abit. the kernel level search ability is related to the fact that the

Re: It's a blond moment - chopping up text files

2003-10-28 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 04:52:18PM +1300, Mike Beattie wrote: dogs bark to much, i hate that. Wuff Wuff!! Screen! see, i love it how i can silence screen and make it emit a text message instead. i wish i could do the same to dogs... (and it's 'blonde' too, no?) my screen has a black

Re: It's a blond moment - chopping up text files

2003-10-27 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 09:19:25AM +1300, CF wrote: You could cat file | head -n 96 | tail -n 33 :) cat is almost always unnecessary: ~~~ Obviously Martin is a dog person naaa, i am nice to cats and dont want to make them do work, dogs bark to much, i hate that. Wuff Wuff!!

Re: It's a blond moment - chopping up text files

2003-10-25 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 03:26:43PM +1300, Gareth Williams wrote: You could cat file | head -n 96 | tail -n 33 :) cat is almost always unnecessary: head -96 file | tail -34 greetings, martin. -- interested in doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium/pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen

Re: It's a blond moment - chopping up text files

2003-10-25 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 09:32:09AM +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: head -96 file | tail -34 sed A,B\!d impressive. would i have thought of sed i'd have used: sed -n A,Bp greetings, martin. -- interested in doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium/pike/roxen training,

Re: way ot sorry, connection problem to computerworld.co.nz

2003-10-22 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 01:09:19PM +1300, Carl Cerecke wrote: Also, the Received: headers in email are interesting for tracing the path of an email delivery. but you don't need those to figure out at what time the email was written. besides with smtp going source to destination nowadays there

Re: way ot sorry, connection problem to computerworld.co.nz

2003-10-21 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 12:15:42PM +1300, Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: I get a cannot connect message for http://computerworld.co.nz Same problem from here at work. likewise from europe. to debug stuff like that, traceroute is interresting: (skipped 20 hops that sprintlink takes from

Re: reasonably major errors

2003-10-20 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 09:02:55AM +1300, Nick Rout wrote: LINUX - Linux Is Not gnU linuX i prefer this one: Gnu is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX greetings, martin. -- interested in doing pike programming, sTeam/caudium/pike/roxen training, sTeam/caudium/roxen and/or unix system

Re: 'Contact Sheets' of photos...

2003-10-19 Thread Martin Baehr
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:06:51PM +1300, Chris Hellyar wrote: Arrr, thanks Martin Volker... Imagemagik, is there anything it can't do? :-)... your laundry. i just got mine back, and now i have a set of wonderfull bright sky blue underwear. i am sure it's imagemagicks fault, you know, it

Re: Talk at a future meeting.

2003-09-21 Thread Martin Baehr
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 09:10:01PM +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: It looks as if the next meeting is going to be the showing of RevolutionOS and supporting shorts. i.e. A Night at tthe Flicks. what supporting shorts are those? stuff on the RevolutionOS dvd or from other sources? i am

Re: Talk at a future meeting.

2003-09-21 Thread Martin Baehr
On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 11:56:34AM +1200, Nick Rout wrote: I am intending to show some seattlewireless.tv clips ah, i'll have to dig around on that site, thanks for the pointer. and a couple of linux ads. the new ibm ads i suppose... greetings, martin. -- Pike Conference 2003 - Sep 25-27

Re: Talk at a future meeting.

2003-09-13 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sat, Sep 13, 2003 at 02:35:07PM +1200, G. M. Bodnar wrote: Vi's moded operation was the only choice of editor that we had. (I guess we could have used ed, but I'm not that masochistic. ;) in AIX single user mode and in many LPmuds ed is the only editor available. knowing vi helped a lot

Re: Talk at a future meeting.

2003-09-12 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 01:33:23PM +1200, CF wrote: I've just received a Sun Sparcserver 20MP, and the only editor installed is vi So I *have* to get to grips with it :-( i have run into this situation more than once, it is the only reason why i switched from emacs to vi. i might still

Re: tcsh vs bash (Re: Command history for multiple shells)

2003-09-05 Thread Martin Baehr
On Fri, Sep 05, 2003 at 01:10:34PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: I am not interested in having dumb shell arguments. i am not going to start one, i just want to satisfy my curiosity. The by far most annoying I can remember is that esc-bs only erases to the previous period, so keeping a finger

Re: tcsh vs bash (Re: Command history for multiple shells)

2003-09-05 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 01:27:24PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Key bindings? I always assumed it would be possible to change that, been on the lookout... Would you be able to email me (offlist) your bash key bindings i'll include the relevant one here: \e\C-h: backward-kill-word \e\C-?:

Re: List replies (Was: [Fwd: Re: Paradise spam + virus filtering])

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 09:05:07AM +1200, Yuri de Groot wrote: I didn't know that a sender can over-ride the list reply-to header. Cool. well that depends on the list software. it may either: - notice that there is already a Reply-To: header and not set one. (which leads to inconsistencies -

tcsh vs bash (Re: Command history for multiple shells)

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 01:04:34PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: No freaking way am I going back to tcsh :-) There are a few minor utter time-wasters in bash which I haven't found out how to fix which are? i find it terribly annoying that filename completion uses ctrl-d in tcsh and only

Re: Command history for multiple shells

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:44:44AM +1200, Jim Cheetham wrote: ssh - Super Shell, from Dublin in the mid 1980's ... $ cta /etc/motd DWIM: 'cta' not found ... did you mean 'cat'? y/n But I don't think the code lived very long ... :-( on the contrary, i have seen this feature in somewhere

Re: OT. Re: Command history for multiple shells

2003-09-04 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:54:40AM +1200, CF wrote: sick of distro wars, desktop wars, lets do shell wars :-) Bash them. Phil... just sh! ksh! no yelling! greetings, martin. -- Pike Conference 2003 - Sep 25-27 - http://pike.ida.liu.se/conferences/2003/ -- interested in doing pike

Re: URGENT ASSISTANCE REQUIRED

2003-08-14 Thread Martin Baehr
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 09:05:02AM +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: Thank you Martin, A nice laugh to start what looks like becoming a Difficult Friday. hehehe, you are welcome. note that this is not my text, i picked it from the tokyo lug list. greetings, martin. -- Pike Conference 2003 -

Re: URGENT ASSISTANCE REQUIRED

2003-08-14 Thread Martin Baehr
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 08:58:06AM +1200, Michael Pearce wrote: Interesting that an Austrian Crop and food company owns Unix ;-) www.sco-group.com ooops!!! i should have checked before making up the email-address. that this company is austrian is a pure coincidence. greetings, martin. --

Re: NZ supercomputer

2003-07-24 Thread Martin Baehr
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 04:19:41PM +1200, Carl Cerecke wrote: If you want to dig a hole 10 feet deep, extra men won't help. but they will, because one can take over when the other is exhausted. (* quickly runs for cover* (hmm, erm in NZ i better swimm for cover) * says it and swimms faster *)

Re: Stopping IE usage

2003-07-21 Thread Martin Baehr
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 07:04:45PM +1200, David Mann wrote: My eldest daughter. She has been told not to but persists in doing it. Just out of curiosity, why must she not use IE? it's probably the typical youth rebellion stage we all went through at one point of time. but better IE than

Re: Stopping IE usage

2003-07-20 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 05:32:12PM +1200, Chad wrote: Use javascript to determine browser useragent why do you need javascript for that? there is a user-agent header. greetings, martin. -- Pike Conference 2003 - Sep 25-27 - http://pike.ida.liu.se/conferences/2003/ -- interested in doing

Re: Programming language for 6 yr olds

2003-07-17 Thread Martin Baehr
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 10:27:09AM +1200, Carl Cerecke wrote: I'd like to introduce my 6 yr old daughter to programming language ideas. at the linuxtag i met a KDE developer who is teaching his son c++ his argument was that if he learned pascal he would then have noone to talk to and share code

Re: Knoppix DVD from Linux-Tag

2003-07-16 Thread Martin Baehr
On Mon, Jul 14, 2003 at 01:36:17PM +1200, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: I could get some sent over, cost prob about just under NZ$30. Anyone interested? I'd need to know within the next few hours (it sounds like it's today, and they're only sold on the day itself). (Reply off-list) actually they

Re: knoppix hd install root user suddenly german

2003-07-03 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 11:55:33AM +1200, Nick Rout wrote: Can anyone tell me why this might be, and how to fix it? I don't recall changing anything. it is a secret plot to get you to invite volker over for dinner. greetings, martin. (this was the pick-on-volker list, wasn't it?) -- Pike

Re: areeee redhat is turning into M$!!!

2003-07-03 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 01:24:42PM +1200, Mahesh De Silva wrote: This also has implecations for using red hat at our install fests!! no, it has not. Dear Sir/Madam: I am writing on behalf of Red Hat, Inc. with respect to its trademark matters. It has come to our attention that you are

Re: OT bugers (was: areeee redhat is turning into M$!!! ethics)

2003-07-03 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Jul 02, 2003 at 07:44:00PM +1200, Gareth Williams wrote: I was thinking more along the lines of someone buying McDonalds Burgers and then reselling them as McDonalds Burgers ... To be able to sell any second hand right next to an official restraunt, you would need to undercut them

Re: OT - spelling errors in posts....

2003-07-03 Thread Martin Baehr
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:19:25PM +1200, Slosh wrote: my one is naive instead of naïve, even though they mean the exact same thing. i didn't know that english supported the use of ï i expected that naive would be the correct spelling in english because the english alphabet doesn't contain ï.

Re: areeee redhat is turning into M$!!!

2003-07-03 Thread Martin Baehr
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 11:25:27AM +1200, Nick Rout wrote: strangely enough when I did a marketing paper at university, our lecturer was of the view that once a brand name became a household word for the generic item, that was the ultimate marketing success, ie your brand was so far into the

Re: areeee redhat is turning into M$!!!

2003-07-03 Thread Martin Baehr
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 11:28:56AM +1200, C Falconer wrote: vnc nmap eh??? what other than the original products are these used for? how about unix? greetings, martin. -- Pike Conference 2003 - Sep 25-27 - http://pike.ida.liu.se/conferences/2003/ -- interested in doing pike programming,

Re: OT - spelling errors in posts....

2003-07-03 Thread Martin Baehr
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:36:09PM +1200, Mark Tomlinson wrote: i didn't know that english supported the use of ï If you're really worried about the use of i, make sure you use a capital when using the first person singular pronoun! i was only worried about ï, not i. as for I, it may have

Re: Toy library software

2003-06-30 Thread Martin Baehr
On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 12:06:18AM -0700, elvis wrote: can you guys refresh us to whats going on here? --whats a toy library? a place where you can borrow toys and games. very usefull to try out various things instead of spending lots of money for them and then finding out that the kids don't

Re: Huge Telecom Bill

2003-06-28 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sat, Jun 28, 2003 at 12:57:50PM +1200, Tim Wright wrote: Oh and this will make you all laugh or cry (both happened in this household I assure you ) - my latest jetstream bill - wait for it: $60, last month! - 291GB! (about 1G of which I can account for) Wow! Is it even possible to

Re: another linux victory

2003-06-17 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:27:58AM +1200, Paul Swafford wrote: KNOPPIX .. no good Gentoo User should leave home without it! you do realize that knoppix is debian? greetings, martin. ;-) -- Pike Conference 2003 - Sep 25-27 - http://pike.ida.liu.se/conferences/2003/ -- interested in doing

Re: OpenBSD

2003-06-07 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sat, Jun 07, 2003 at 12:11:19AM +0100, Jim Cheetham wrote: FreeBSD is almost as flexible as a Linux, and more stable in a qualitative way. which linux distribution are you comparing this with? greetings, martin. -- Pike Conference 2003 - Sep 25-27 -

Re: Celestia

2003-04-05 Thread Martin Baehr
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 07:54:05AM +1200, Nick Rout wrote: Thanks to Chris W for mentioning this program. I just reinstalled it (gentoo ;-) i just installed it because of your post. I'd forgotten what a great program it is, beautiful renderings of outerspace/planets etc. i think i heared

Re: pike vs python

2003-04-02 Thread Martin Baehr
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 09:18:49AM +1200, Zane Gilmore wrote: how many LUG lists are you a member of around the world? well, all the lugs i am in, are places that i have been to: vienna, san diego, los angeles, auckland, wellington, chch, dunedin, tokyo, singapore... the list is slowly growing

Re: pike vs python

2003-04-01 Thread Martin Baehr
On Tue, Apr 01, 2003 at 05:20:33PM +1200, Nick Rout wrote: wow is this the martin we know? you bet it is! time to come back for another demo!! i'd love to! topic will be sTeam (www.open-steam.org) an environment for cooperative knowledge managment and communications hub. greetings, martin.

pike vs python

2003-03-31 Thread Martin Baehr
enough is enough! i've had it! with pike: calendar failing, floatingpoint bugs, blocking i/o callbacks upgrading woes with caudium: php problems parser bugs entity problems licensing problems camas problems with roxen: mysql dependancy complex rxml classes with sTeam: confusing web interface

Re: Ogg to MP3 Conversion

2003-03-29 Thread Martin Baehr
On Sat, Mar 29, 2003 at 08:02:26AM +1200, Tim Wright wrote: Well, the next stage for using my MP3 player is converting some ogg vorbis files to MP3. I have all the command line tools (that I'm using now), but was wondering if anyone had a nice GUI I can play with? what mp3 player are you

Re: Voice Synthesis

2003-03-27 Thread Martin Baehr
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 10:07:12AM +1200, Chris Hellyar wrote: Anyway, I've had a play with festival, which works fine direct to /dev/dsp, hmm, i had a look at festival (as installed through debian) and my biggest gripe is that the voice quality is rather poor. i have been playing with a voice

Re: Post InstallFest fix-ups Meeting.

2003-03-26 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:22:32PM +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: You have received this email because you recently had Linux installed on your computer by the Canterbury Linux Users' Group. It is a one time posting. hmm, this makes it sound like a typical spam excuse, especially one time

Re: 3d editing (was: CLUG tux)

2003-03-11 Thread Martin Baehr
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 11:54:21PM +1300, Helmut Walle wrote: i looked at blender, and could not figure out how to use it Yes, Martin, it is the CAD-like concept of Blender ah, that gets my hopes up, i have played around with CAD many years ago, so i might handle the effort to learn this...

Re: 3d editing (was: CLUG tux)

2003-03-11 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 07:43:22AM +1300, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: The problem with simple is that sooner or later you will need something only a complex program can deliver. Then, if you move to the more complex program all the time spent on learning the simple one goes to waste. i

Re: 3d editing (was: CLUG tux)

2003-03-11 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 08:40:41AM +1300, Ryurick M. Hristev wrote: there are general concepts in all these things that don't change. I wasn't talking about general concepts but specific techniques. This is were you spend most of the time and they are not transferable. only if your goal is to

Re: php-GTK onwards to PHP v5

2003-03-11 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:34:57AM +1300, Will Pilvio wrote: Alternatives? - C: Development too slow - Java: I Dont like programming in it... - Python: Maybe - Perl: reading Hebrew is not as hard - Ruby: Yes, I like this, but its much too young to predict where it will go - Delphi: ? Its

Re: dd help PLEASE

2003-03-09 Thread Martin Baehr
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 12:47:04AM +1300, Jason wrote: of=91CD2.iso is your modifier, so in this case the output gets written to the file 91CD2.iso and not to stdout. Not on my Mandrake system. That modifier just changes the file name of the output ISO. that's what i said. The stdout is

3d editing (was: CLUG tux)

2003-03-07 Thread Martin Baehr
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 08:55:17PM +1300, Vik Olliver wrote: Try kpovmodeller. Actually, I'm about to start an article on 3D modeling programs for Linux so any feedback is welcomed. oh, i have been looking for practical not to complicated 3d editors. i looked at blender, and could not figure

Re: ext2fs defrag??

2003-02-19 Thread Martin Baehr
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 05:17:09PM +, paul schulz wrote: I reciently had an unexpected system power down at home, leaving some one of the file systems rather fragmented. Fsck doesn't find any trouble, but would be nice to get the partition in some sort of nice order again. Have thought

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